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Mecha_Sonic posted...

i don't know if you realize this, but the median voter is not pro-palestine. the median voter supports israel and is still in love with israel, even after the last six months of israel shooting white-flag-wavers in the head and blowing the legs off little children.

like you know this is a no-win situation, right. you realize there's a really tricky tightrope to be walked here.

if biden does exactly what YOU want, he's going to piss off millions of moderates, and trump's gonna win, and palestine will be fucked.
if biden is gung-ho in support of israel, he's going to piss off the base, and trump's gonna win, and palestine's STILL going to be fucked.

man, you know, it really sucks, but that IS REALITY.

yeah, but acknowledging hard truths and trade-offs like that is hard though. it's easier to pretend the world is simple, not complex. draw a line in the sand, put yourself on the "good" side, and everyone else on the "genocide" side. that plays well on social media. makes you feel good. gets you clout. that's why people looooove to do it.

Cut the condescension. I'm absolutely tired of it. I've approached this topic with good faith and yet every single post one of you comes in and approaches me like I don't understand basic things. It's not just that I've come to a different conclusion than you, it's that I'm stupid and easy to psychoanalyze.

Of course I understand that many still support Israel to the hilt. I understand that there's risk in any approach on such a charged subject. But we know based on actual polling that most people, almost regardless of social group, Dems, independents, protestants, etc think Israel has gone too far, that most people support a a permanent ceasefire. We know for a fact that his current approach is costing him votes. You can even see it in his admin's current rhetoric as now they're calling for a ceasefire.

It is likely safer to do the popular thing and hope for the best than the clearly unpopular thing and hope it has no effect. That's without even bringing in the moral dimension here. He should do what 60+ percent of Americans want, and what key constituents of his want rather than what makes his base hate him and what fewer people want him to do. And if he's going to potentially lose either way, as you acknowledge, then he might as well do the right thing.