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Topic	Do you think the world is overpopulated?
DarkDoc 02/20/24 3:19:30 PM #198:	2001mark posted... Yes, but not in some evil twisted Thanos malicious way. We've simply boosted so many towards a middle class that we're consuming far too much for the planet to sustain us. So, is that another way of saying... "I'm allowed to consume, but you're not"? 2001mark posted... I do think we're on a path though to curbing overpopulation, yet not in our lifetimes - the western world is already declining birth rates, & soon enough many other locales will stop popping babies like rabbits, & maybe by 2350, the global population eases. Well, a few countries have a declining birthrate, but they also still have a declining death rate, and therefore a growing population. To say nothing of the countries with a booming birthrate, resulting in a net world increase... reincarnator07 posted... Completely agree. The failure is the intentional development of areas in ways that are unsuitable for anything but car travel. You just gotta look at somewhere like Birmingham. I considered living there at one point, but on a visit I realised exactly how bad the city centre was when compared to somewhere like Manchester. But on your point - that's basically the whole of the USA. When you stop and ask for directions, they immediately start talking about stoplights - they simply can't fathom that you might actually be on foot. Then you have something like the Vegas strip, completely impossible to cross something like that. I once remember in Lake Tahoe, trying to cross what was basically motorway, and the pedestrian light having a 10-second countdown to cross something like 6 lanes, lol. reincarnator07 posted... Yeah, British trains are a fucking mess. I think the worst part is that quite a lot of them are at least partially owned by foreign state companies, so we're effectively subsidising them. I think round here sone of them are German. Ironic that they're nowhere near as punctual as actual German trains reincarnator07 posted... Buses can be a different story though. I don't wanna doxx myself beyond the South, but you can get a 30 day bus ticket that covers where I live and all the surrounding towns and villages for just under 100 All along I've been thinking you're Dutch, now I'm realising that you're probably not... reincarnator07 posted... Unless you wanna haul some big items, you can absolutely get by without driving here. I do appreciate that this is the exception rather than the norm. Yeah, more or less, apart from in the south, busses are just for poor people. reincarnator07 posted... According to ONS, the unemployment rate for Oct-Dec was 3.9% I don't have the pure number to hand but I feel comfortable in saying it's less than 10 million. I believe you have been misinformed here. Just "unemployed" though? That's just false spin. Per gov figures published in Dec 2023, "in 2022, 22% of working age people in England, Scotland and Wales were economically inactive". In other words, 9,278,000 people. Last month. Not including children and pensioners. <cite>DarkDoc posted [p:978947534] in Do you thi... [t:80693149]...</cite> <quote>2001mark posted...</cite><quote>Yes, but not in some evil twisted Thanos malicious way. We've simply boosted so many towards a middle class that we're consuming far too much for the planet to sustain us.</quote>So, is that another way of saying... "I'm allowed to consume, but you're not"?2001mark posted...</cite><quote>I do think we're on a path though to curbing overpopulation, yet not in our lifetimes - the western world is already declining birth rates, & soon enough many other locales will stop popping babies like rabbits, & maybe by 2350, the global population eases.</quote>Well, a few countries have a declining birthrate, but they also still have a declining death rate, and therefore a growing population.To say nothing of the countries with a booming birthrate, resulting in a net world increase...reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Completely agree. The failure is the intentional development of areas in ways that are unsuitable for anything but car travel. </quote>You just gotta look at somewhere like Birmingham. I considered living there at one point, but on a visit I realised exactly how bad the city centre was when compared to somewhere like Manchester.But on your point - that's basically the whole of the USA. When you stop and ask for directions, they immediately start talking about stoplights - they simply can't fathom that you might actually be on foot.Then you have something like the Vegas strip, completely impossible to cross something like that. I once remember in Lake Tahoe, trying to cross what was basically motorway, and the pedestrian light having a 10-second countdown to cross something like 6 lanes, lol.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Yeah, British trains are a fucking mess. I think the worst part is that quite a lot of them are at least partially owned by foreign state companies, so we're effectively subsidising them. </quote>I think round here sone of them are German. Ironic that they're nowhere near as punctual as actual German trains reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Buses can be a different story though. I don't wanna doxx myself beyond the South, but you can get a 30 day bus ticket that covers where I live and all the surrounding towns and villages for just under 100</quote>All along I've been thinking you're Dutch, now I'm realising that you're probably not...reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Unless you wanna haul some big items, you can absolutely get by without driving here. I do appreciate that this is the exception rather than the norm.</quote>Yeah, more or less, apart from in the south, busses are just for poor people.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote> According to ONS, the unemployment rate for Oct-Dec was 3.9% I don't have the pure number to hand but I feel comfortable in saying it's less than 10 million. I believe you have been misinformed here.</quote>Just "unemployed" though? That's just false spin.Per gov figures published in Dec 2023, "in 2022, 22% of working age people in England, Scotland and Wales were economically inactive".In other words, 9,278,000 people. 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