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Topic	Do you think the world is overpopulated?
DarkDoc 02/17/24 1:50:04 PM #181:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... It's basically a product of the "infinite growth" mentality that most have where number must never go down. There are people who genuinely think we're at risk of extinction by not fucking enough, which is absurd, but it's usually demographic shift concerns. Indeed. For some reason, everyone thinks everything has to be bigger and better than it was last year. Smallville posted... What do you mostly attribute the great population increase to. I thought it might be improved medicine, vaccines...etc.. Yeah, medical advances. Treatments, eradication of diseases. Not getting eaten by a sabre-tooth tiger. All of the above. I guess the reasons why don't matter. It is what it is. We can't change the past. The main thing is to acknowledge that the population has boomed too much. A bit like AA. Strange the people in this topic are so stubborn. reincarnator07 posted... 1) Thats... why you train them? That's why I said most people are thick as pigshit. They simply don't have the ability to be trained. It's not like you can pick any person off the street and turn them into a brain surgeon, lol. reincarnator07 posted... 2) Clearly not, this is a relatively new problem. My hometown has had countless flats and developments put in without a corresponding rise in amenities. Huh? What do you mean a new problem? The UK has had a health service since 1948, and within a decade it was completely fucked. This didn't suddenly creep up on us. reincarnator07 posted... 3) Who sets nurse pay? How come countries with better healthcare aren't so afflicted? What? It's a low paid job. I can't be bothered to find a source for you, do you're just gonna have to believe me on this. ~~Translation: if you're so obtuse that you're gonna refute the point, this conversation is over. I won't respond to somebody who is so clueless or so stubborn.~~ reincarnator07 posted... Bangladesh, Palestine (bit of a special case but w/e) Lebanon and South Korea before you get to the Netherlands. I apparently got my numbers messed up, Netherlands is ahead of of India in population density. Palestine and Lebanon are tiny nations, but it would be very arbitrary to exclude them. Huh? NL is also a tiny nation. I've lost track of what point you're trying to argue. If you have a very tiny and very flat nation, that makes it perfectly suited to travelling by bike (is that where we started?) In contrast, the USA is too big and Switzerland is too hilly and the UK is too congested for anybody to bother. reincarnator07 posted... Fitness is a part of the issue, although it would alleviate itself a lot if more people cycled to work. The real issue is the infrastructure and city planning. If you're from the UK, how easy is it for you to cycle to all of your destinations? If you're outside the cities or home counties, do you even have dedicated cycle infrastructure? How far do you need to travel? Now we're getting somewhere. No, it's not easy. No, we don't have the "infrastructure". They just installed a bike lane near my house and all it's done is create 2 km traffic jams every day. Also, about 500 metres from my house, somebody got stabbed so they could steal their bike. Distances? Too big. Some people in London travel 60-70 km to get to work. Similar if you live in Manchester and work in Liverpool. Cycling is simply out of the question. <cite>DarkDoc posted [p:978894541] in Do you thi... [t:80693149]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite><quote>It's basically a product of the "infinite growth" mentality that most have where number must never go down. There are people who genuinely think we're at risk of extinction by not fucking enough, which is absurd, but it's usually demographic shift concerns.</quote>Indeed. For some reason, everyone thinks everything has to be bigger and better than it was last year.Smallville posted...</cite><quote> What do you mostly attribute the great population increase to. I thought it might be improved medicine, vaccines...etc..</quote>Yeah, medical advances. Treatments, eradication of diseases. Not getting eaten by a sabre-tooth tiger. All of the above.I guess the reasons why don't matter. It is what it is. We can't change the past. The main thing is to acknowledge that the population has boomed too much. A bit like AA.Strange the people in this topic are so stubborn.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>1) Thats... why you train them? </quote>That's why I said most people are thick as pigshit. They simply don't have the ability to be trained. It's not like you can pick any person off the street and turn them into a brain surgeon, lol.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>2) Clearly not, this is a relatively new problem. My hometown has had countless flats and developments put in without a corresponding rise in amenities.</quote>Huh? What do you mean a new problem? The UK has had a health service since 1948, and within a decade it was completely fucked. This didn't suddenly creep up on us.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>3) Who sets nurse pay? How come countries with better healthcare aren't so afflicted?</quote>What? It's a low paid job. I can't be bothered to find a source for you, do you're just gonna have to believe me on this.Translation: if you're so obtuse that you're gonna refute the point, this conversation is over. I won't respond to somebody who is so clueless or so stubborn.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Bangladesh, Palestine (bit of a special case but w/e) Lebanon and South Korea before you get to the Netherlands. I apparently got my numbers messed up, Netherlands is ahead of of India in population density. Palestine and Lebanon are tiny nations, but it would be very arbitrary to exclude them. </quote>Huh? NL is also a tiny nation. I've lost track of what point you're trying to argue.If you have a very tiny and very flat nation, that makes it perfectly suited to travelling by bike (is that where we started?) In contrast, the USA is too big and Switzerland is too hilly and the UK is too congested for anybody to bother.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>Fitness is a part of the issue, although it would alleviate itself a lot if more people cycled to work. The real issue is the infrastructure and city planning. If you're from the UK, how easy is it for you to cycle to all of your destinations? If you're outside the cities or home counties, do you even have dedicated cycle infrastructure? How far do you need to travel?</quote>Now we're getting somewhere.No, it's not easy. No, we don't have the "infrastructure". They just installed a bike lane near my house and all it's done is create 2 km traffic jams every day. Also, about 500 metres from my house, somebody got stabbed so they could steal their bike.Distances? Too big. Some people in London travel 60-70 km to get to work. Similar if you live in Manchester and work in Liverpool. Cycling is simply out of the question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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