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Topic	Do you think the world is overpopulated?
DarkDoc 02/15/24 4:16:37 PM #155:	reincarnator07 posted... Dutch infrastructure and urban planning is outstanding, but it's not some freak accident. They actively choose to make things walkable and to invest in public transport and it's a relatively recent change, only going back a few decades at this point. I guarantee if everyone in the UK or USA was able to cycle or take public transport, you would see way more people do so. In the UK public transport is too unreliable and too expensive. And outside of London it barely even exists. Same for USA. Not everybody is as well-paid or has such a low cost of living as the Dutch. Our trains are simply unaffordable for most people. I spent many years getting public transport to work and school (London, Manchester and Merseyside), and my frustration practically got me into fist fights with the staff on a daily basis. reincarnator07 posted... When you say too many people for the jobs available, that's another way of saying that there are workers available to be put to use. Put to use in jobs that don't exist... Again, from personal experience of being unemployed for 18 months, getting a job is not easy. The UK has a huge number of unemployed , and although some are simply too lazy, there are others that do want a job and can't get one. Because of the overpopulation. Similarly, there are people that want a house and can't get one. Because of the overpopulation. Etc. DuranOfForcena posted... no. the environmental issue is the same. it won't be solved by reducing the population, and it can be solved without reducing the population. overpopulation is not the problem. Imagine taking an intelligently-written, well-structured, 400 word post, and simply replying to it with a 32-word paste, and thinking you got it covered. Lol. DuranOfForcena posted... i'm not living in a fantasy world. Do you really not understand the difference between finite and infinite? emblem-man posted... Do you think technology will alleviate many of the concerns you stated? No. That's the problem with the way a lot of people think. The only technology that will solve it is settling another planet. emblem-man posted... I don't think people assume it will just instantly get fixed, but I think the idea is that all the new work needed to for newer forms of energy are going to tax the world significantly less than continuing down our current path. How about poverty? People have been trying to solve that one for literally 3000 years. <cite>DarkDoc posted [p:978862482] in Do you thi... [t:80693149]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote> Dutch infrastructure and urban planning is outstanding, but it's not some freak accident. They actively choose to make things walkable and to invest in public transport and it's a relatively recent change, only going back a few decades at this point. I guarantee if everyone in the UK or USA was able to cycle or take public transport, you would see way more people do so.</quote>In the UK public transport is too unreliable and too expensive. And outside of London it barely even exists. Same for USA. Not everybody is as well-paid or has such a low cost of living as the Dutch. Our trains are simply unaffordable for most people.I spent many years getting public transport to work and school (London, Manchester and Merseyside), and my frustration practically got me into fist fights with the staff on a daily basis.reincarnator07 posted...</cite><quote>When you say too many people for the jobs available, that's another way of saying that there are workers available to be put to use.</quote>Put to use in jobs that don't exist... Again, from personal experience of being unemployed for 18 months, getting a job is not easy. The UK has a huge number of unemployed , and although some are simply too lazy, there are others that do want a job and can't get one. Because of the overpopulation.Similarly, there are people that want a house and can't get one. Because of the overpopulation. Etc.DuranOfForcena posted...</cite><quote>no. the environmental issue is the same. it won't be solved by reducing the population, and it can be solved without reducing the population. overpopulation is not the problem.</quote>Imagine taking an intelligently-written, well-structured, 400 word post, and simply replying to it with a 32-word paste, and thinking you got it covered.Lol.DuranOfForcena posted...</cite><quote>i'm not living in a fantasy world.</quote>Do you really not understand the difference between finite and infinite?emblem-man posted...</cite><quote>Do you think technology will alleviate many of the concerns you stated?</quote>No. That's the problem with the way a lot of people think.The only technology that will solve it is settling another planet.emblem-man posted...</cite><quote>I don't think people assume it will just instantly get fixed, but I think the idea is that all the new work needed to for newer forms of energy are going to tax the world significantly less than continuing down our current path. </quote>How about poverty? People have been trying to solve that one for literally 3000 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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