From: JaKyL25 | #432
Yeah, I don't get how Zack Ryder is "lucky" in any way, shape, or form. You're free to not like him, but I don't see how you can deny that he singlehandedly saved his career though his own efforts to get himself over.
I was, perhaps, unclear. In his interview this summer with Colt, Colt kept asking him about this show from a creative perspective and like what Zack hoped to achieve personally through the show, like from a creative standpoint. Zack like completely misunderstands the question, talks about how he wants to be on TV, and how the show is nothing BUT a platform. I mean sure its hard work to get himself over BLAH BLAH BLAH. But that the show itself was a success was less a product of him being creative and entertaining as him just throwing everything he could think of at the wall until something somehow stuck. Thats what I mean by lucky. If he had, say, started a podcast or done one of a dozen other potential ways to try to get himself noticed I personally doubt it would have worked. I dunno, thisi the thing abotu Cabanas podcast, when guys who dont have a mind for the business go on, they really are revealed for the know-nothings they are when they try to respond to Colt's questions. Based on that interview Id say Ryder may LIKE or eve LOVE wrestling, but he simply has no brain for it.
And while on this topic, I dont think getting FE'd wouldve been the endo fthe road for Ryder, hes ridiculously young and if he is THAT motivated he would've been back.
From: JaKyL25 | #440
Right, and they're still super-excited and pumped about more Ryder.
Maybe people on the internet are a bit more overexposed to Ryder because we've been following his saga since February, but WWE didn't really pick up any steam on it until September. He's only been a non-jobber for 3 months!
It wasn't too long ago when we were super-excited that he would even be on-screen with Cena!
Except this storyline with Ziggler, without the internet component was REALLY boring. Ziggler beats Ryder. Ryder starts a petition. Ryder gets what are shown to be lucky wins, which runs counter to the whole petition angle anyway- why does he need a petition if he has more traditional means of lobbying? And then he does a few runins which only arent heel moves because he doesnt continue the beatdown afterwards.
I mean on TV only, this feud is about roughly nothing and produced a series of really pretty formulaic maches to work around Ryders stupidly limited skillset. So to discount his "internet fans" growing tired of him, I feel, Is folly, since if they turn he's like half a step from Cena reactions.
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edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously?