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TopicA question to the atheists of this board
BoshStrikesBack
10/22/11 6:13:00 PM
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But I already feel like anyone who believes in God (as it is portrayed in the majority of major religions) is a bit nutty, so if it was somehow proved that he didn't exist, my thoughts on these people wouldn't change.

Several billion people in the world today, and the vast majority of people throughout human history, have been religious. Some of the smartest individuals ever to have graced this earth, such as St. Thomas Aquinas, have been deeply religious. Issues of religion are among the most complex in philosophy, and have been eloquently and exhaustively argued by both sides for centuries.

Given all this, what gives you the right to hand-waive religion as "nutty"? That's sounds as undeservedly arrogant as it does childishly misinformed.

I think the proof already exists.

Oh, this should be good.

Theists claim existence of the supernatural. Either our world is natural (i.e. perfectly consistent) or it is not. If I stick my hand over a fire 1,000 times, I will get burned each and every time. The theists who claim that god has control over the "laws" of physics would inherently believe that the possibility exists that I could eventually stick my hand in the fire and not get burned.

Of course; this is true of empiricists as well. See: Hume's inductive skepticism.

Either the world is what it is, or it is an inconsistent blob that is under the perpetual control of a supernatural force. Again - our world cannot be natural and supernatural at the same time.

Question: if there is no God, then what compels the entirety of existence to abide by uniform, rigid natural laws? Because some guy in a wheelchair said so? Please.

Scientists talk all the time about how "arrogant" and "anthropomorphic" it is to conceive of man as the center of the universe and made in the image of divinity, yet they immediately proceed to talk as though the crude handiwork of laughably fallible human minds constitutes the essence of existence. It's a disgusting double standard.

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