Lurker > tazzyboyishere

Right side of the bracket looking a lot stronger than the left tbqh

Bracket:
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=477201

Matches start Sunday night

LeonhartFour posted...

There have only been 3 Final Fours before now with no 1 seeds: 1980, 2006, and 2011.

And 0 Elite Eights!

No judgment if you legit want them to do well, but Ivy League is just hard to bandwagon around, at least imo

Yeah fuck that, if you want an underdog go for FAU or SDSU

I'm still riding UCONN tho

SEC 0-3 in the sweet 16 dang

Yeah, the transition in Akuma no Uta at 2:16 is one of my favorite things ever, but I like the entire thing quite a lot. Honestly surprised [untitled] is still here since I thought I was the only person who liked that

Best Zelda

I couldn't stay awake for the last two games so it seems I missed two pretty eventful ones unfortunately.

At least I got to see UCONN dominate. They play like that the rest of the way, they're not gonna lose.

Brother is an MSU fan so I imagine he's pretty pressed at that ending

As a Jak fan, we really don't need any more Jak games. Sometimes it's okay to leave things alone.

None of them are necessary, they are video games.

btw I didn't mean the fact that it was overpriced and probably unnecessary. I mean the weirdos who crusaded against it on Twitter and just took a bunch of screenshots and put a bunch of red lines on them as "reasonings" for why the remake was a worse game. And all the other critiques of ultimately superficial and/or pointless differences that were only noticed to push a pre-constructed narrative.

I love to shit on The Last of Us but the "discourse" over Part I is the dumbest shit.

Thank God, Kirby lore repaired

Also FYI I'm making no updates on this. I'm just gonna gather all the results at the end and post the seeds after

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80387781

Doom Eternal
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Pokmon X/Y
Resident Evil 2
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds

yes

OrangeCrush980 posted...

Just to be clear, we vote for games we didn't vote for in the first topic, right?

you can vote for whatever you want

Game List:
AI: The Somnium Files
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Baba Is You
Celeste
Cuphead
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Disco Elysium
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Doom
Doom Eternal
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Fire Emblem Fates
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Hades
Hollow Knight
Judgment
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Kingdom Hearts III
Kirby Triple Deluxe
Kirby: Planet Robobot
Life Is Strange
Mario Kart 7
Mega Man 11
Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
One Step from Eden
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Outer Wilds
Overwatch
Persona 5
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
Pikmin 3
Pokmon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
Pokmon Sun/Moon
Pokmon X/Y
Red Dead Redemption 2
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
Return of the Obra Dinn
Shovel Knight
Slay the Spire
South Park: The Fractured but Whole
Spider-Man
Splatoon
Stardew Valley
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Maker
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/Nintendo 3DS
Tales of Berseria
The Last of Us Part II
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Undertale
What Remains of Edith Finch
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

Nom List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hfwTMlP1lVFj8_XP_8NYcPrWdY7aHHZfNFiDmUcKxQk/edit

So here is what the seeds will eventually look like based on nomination count:

-1-
Bloodborne
NieR: Automata
*9 nominations*
*9 nominations*

-2-
*9 nominations*
God of War
Yakuza 0
*7 nominations*

-3-
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*

-4-
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*

-5-
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*

-6-
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*

-7-
*6 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*

-8-
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*

-9-
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-10-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-11-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-12-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-13-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-14-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-15-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-16-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

So only 4 games with cut and dry definite spots. Basically, I'll just allow people to give five votes to any of the other 60 games and those points will contribute to where they inevitably seed. Obviously, a game with 4 nominations will not be able to score higher than a 9-seed, but this should at least help with keeping the strengths consistent with the seeds, at least relative to nominations received. Will only last until Friday afternoon, 5:00 central time. List of games you can vote for in the next post.

While I wait for pj to respond to my DM before moving on, this is just kinda a peak at what we're dealing with for the seedings:

-1-
Bloodborne
NieR: Automata
*9 nominations*
*9 nominations*

-2-
*9 nominations*
God of War
Yakuza 0
*7 nominations*

-3-
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*

-4-
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*
*7 nominations*

-5-
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*

-6-
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*
*6 nominations*

-7-
*6 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*

-8-
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*

-9-
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*5 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-10-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-11-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-12-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-13-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-14-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-15-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

-16-
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*
*4 nominations*

So only 4 games with cut and dry definite spots. Basically, I'll just allow people to give five votes to any of the other 60 games and those points will contribute to where they inevitably seed. Obviously, a game with 4 nominations will not be able to score higher than a 9-seed, but this should at least help with keeping the strengths consistent with the seeds, at least relative to nominations received. Will only last until Friday afternoon.

That should wrap everything up. I'm going to be introducing a new phase for seeding which will go up tonight.

DROP:
Mario Kart 7
Uncharted 4

ADD:
AM2R
Ori and the Will of the Wisps

It'd be eligible for either, so if it makes this one it's ineligible for the next.

EPIC dunk

fixed

up

Doc is up to date

DROP
Mario Kart 8

ADD
Mario Kart 7

INTERESTING DISCUSSION POINT THOUGH:

I felt Mario Kart 8 needed to count for this generation, as the Switch version released as an enhanced port. But I someone brought up in Discord that it has ongoing content specifically for the Switch, which has expanded the game to a pretty significant extent and is continuing into the foreseeable future. So uhhh, what do y'all think? I dunno if this is something that would still technically need to be this gen or if it can fit the bill to be a part of the next...

Yeah, fuck it, BotW isn't allowed in this gen, sorry, Aonuma

pjbasis posted...

Wouldn't the rule change make BotW eligible?

Fuck, yes, I guess I have to allow it since I can't literally only ban this one game, but it'll be a way better fit next contest imo.

Ah, I think that's fair since they are pretty major differences

Dancedreamer posted...

Not sure Builders 2 is eligible because it released for PS4 and Switch on the same day.

There was a rule change. It's good.

WhiteLens posted...

12) Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn (The A Realm Reborn more to specify that it's not FFXIV 1.0, and I'm using the PS4 release as the base. But you're free to lump it all as Final Fantasy XIV)

I don't think anyone considers the original release to be Final Fnatsy XIV anymore

Bayonetta 2
Bloodborne
Celeste
Dark Souls III
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Doom
Doom Eternal
Hades
Hollow Knight
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kirby: Planet Robobot
Mario Kart 8
NieR: Automata
Outer Wilds
Overwatch
Resident Evil 2
Tetris Effect
Titanfall 2
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Undertale

That self-bounce pass was pretty fantastic

plasmabeam posted...

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked

Oh this also wouldn't count I don't think

firefdr posted...

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D

These don't count

mnk posted...

Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past

I've not played but I thought this was an enhanced port?

As a UCONN fan, they definitely have the ability to win it, but they will probably forget how to play in at least one game.

Ah shit missed the second half of the Kansas game whoops

RULE CHANGE FROM:

Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and generation 9 consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated.

TO THIS

• Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and PlayStation 5 and/or XBOX Series X consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated. Games which released simultaneous with the Switch are eligible.

Okay so the switch rule was to prevent exclusives and BotW not multiplat games, one I get sat down I'll try to get an appropriate rule.

Like PS4/XBONE/Switch games are fine

Duke was a 7-seed at best. Winning their tournament should not have given them such a boost.

Read the rules before nominating or I will shit talk you on Discord

RULES

• You have 20 individual nominations to use toward any 8th generation game.
• There is currently no set amount of nominations needed to achieve placement in the bracket. Participation will be monitored and I will review the counts on Wednesday to determine what the amount should be set at.
• There are currently 64 open spots in the bracket. This will not change.
• As always, computer, arcade, and other types of games which don't specifically fit into generational identification are still eligible. Computer and arcade games released from January 1, 2014 to December 31, 2020 are eligible.
• Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and generation 9 consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated.
• As well, Any games which may have been eligible for this bracket, but have already appeared in a prior contest, are not allowed. I don't think anything applies, but just being cautious.
• Possibly an unpopular rule: Switch is being removed from this generation to be used for the next contest. I can give a thorough explanation if someone really wants one, but it just kinda makes the most sense based on the timing of everything, so allow me to change the canon of real life just a little bit here.
• No compilations, side versions, or direct ports of prior gen games. All versions of Pokmon Sun and Moon are counting as the same even though Ultra Sun and Moon are technically better. And don't you dare nominate one of those lame-ass "remaster" collections of a bunch of Ubisoft 360 games.
• Games released exclusively in Japan (or some other non-English country) can be nominated, though they are completely eligible to be nominated for future generations as well, so long as their first worldwide appearance was in that separate generation. This was thrown in just in case people wanted to nominate Ace Attorney two generations ago. I have no idea if anything from this gen fits into this.
• No nomination changing after a game is locked into the bracket. This one won't come into effect until Wednesday, but I think it's kind of lame that we can take nominations away once they're set. You can still change your other nominations at any point, and you can put a nomination toward anything locked in for the sake of granting a higher seeding, we just can't be removing nominations from "safe" games.

Okay I think that's it. Most was copy and pasted so if you remember the rules from last time it's mostly the same. Nominations have gone mostly well but please don't be afraid to put nominations toward safe games. Helps me with the seeding so I don't have to manually seed and do guesswork. Gen 7 bracket felt like it suffered because half the bracket had the exact same amount of nominations, which led to me not really knowing where to seed things appropriately, so instead of taking accountability I am blaming all of you.

Ongoing Nomination Document I will try to keep relatively updated:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hfwTMlP1lVFj8_XP_8NYcPrWdY7aHHZfNFiDmUcKxQk/edit?usp=sharing

Wiki for eligibility reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_generation_of_video_game_consoles
*except Switch lol*

Popular systems to pull from:

• PlayStation 4
• Wii U
• XBOX One
• Nintendo 3DS
• PlayStation Vita

Happy nominating!

I wouldn't discount FAU but yeah, looking good for Tennessee.

Hearing the one broadcaster have a meltdown was great though, god what a fucking douche

I had Purdue losing to Memphis but I also had Arizona in the Final 4 so oops