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IllegalAlien posted...

I also liked how you tried to trash talk my education on business when you're probably making what like 50-65k as an analyst for some shit company? Wow, so impressive man. (Fine I admit this was childish)

Actually I'm an ironworker making around $80k, the desk jockey lifestyle isn't for me. I just hold a bachelor of science in business administration and information systems management with several years of experience figuring out that the desk jockey lifestyle isn't for me.

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Raising the minimum wage does not result in people having more money. Reduced hours and layoffs are the result of increased minimum wage laws.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-seattle-minimumwage-idUSKBN19H2MV

A Seattle law that requires many businesses to pay a minimum wage of at least $13 an hour has left low-wage workers with less money in their pockets because some employers cut working hours, a study released on Monday said.

I keep posting empirical evidence that what you support does not work and you keep turning around and going "Hurr, wat u talkin bout?"

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IllegalAlien posted...

What about $5 an hour? What about $3 an hour? What about $2 an hour?

What about the fact that $7.25 is already too low. The idea that minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs is out of touch bullshit. Many adults work minimum wage jobs (since I make 6 figures of course I'm considering things like $8 or $10 minimum wage, in fact where I live minimum wage is higher than federal).

That just isn't true. You're entitled to your own opinions, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm

Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2017

Among those paid by the hour, 542,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
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Age. Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represented only about one-fifth of hourly paid workers, they made up about half of those paid the federal minimum wage or less.

Furthermore, places that have jacked up the minimum wage have found it to be putting people out of work, which is exactly what people on the right said would happen. See: Washington, California, New York. The simple fact of the matter is that minimum wage jobs are for people who don't have any skills. The number of adults trying to support others on minimum wage jobs is so small that they are cared for on a case by case basis. A minimum wage earner with a kid has access to a plethora of welfare programs, which is the system actually working, taking care of people in need.

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IllegalAlien posted...

I literally have no idea what you're trying to argue.

The only person who's going to work for you at $1/hr is going to steal from you. How can I make that any more simple? I would get into employee theft and shrinkage but I don't get the feeling you have the business and economics background to understand.

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IllegalAlien posted...

And yeah obviously if you're a corporation you want labor as cheap as possible. Are you even thinking before typing lol

No, you don't. When you pay people crap wages they HATE YOU and they steal from you.

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IllegalAlien posted...

Why would you work for 7.25 an hour? Because there are more workers than jobs and everyone needs to put food on the table.

That's... just a lie, because there's seven million unfilled jobs in the country and record low unemployment. There are more jobs than workers currently.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/12/us-job-openings-jump-to-record-high-of-7point3-million.html

Why would anyone work for $7.25/hr? Because they're unskilled young people who are only worth $7.25/hr. Minimum wage jobs aren't careers, they're entry level jobs for people first joining the work force. Most minimum wage workers are the second or third earner in the household, and the number of people actually trying to support a family on a minimum wage job is so small that they are taken care of with the current welfare system and the Earned Income Tax Credit.

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IllegalAlien posted...

Federal minimum wage has not kept up with either inflation or cost of living. Without federal minimum wage however expect corporations to pay, say $1 an hour. The market is always right after all...

Such a worn out talking point. Would you work for $1/hr? Would you want somebody to work for you at $1/hr? Of course not. Places like Sweden have no minimum wage and surprise, things work out fine.

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They report 95% negatively on the president in a record good economy and edit quotes to misconstrue what he said. That kind of behavior doesn't get civility in return.

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How much is it going to cost me to get a UBI?

In all seriousness, UBI is a terrible plan endorsed by people who want other people's money without having to work for it. It was tried in Ontario, and like everyone on the right predicted, it was a dismal failure.

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I wouldn't say I'm rich but I'm definitely no pleb, and I'm not going to be on next quarter's edition of GQ but I'm not an ax wound, all things considered having money is better.
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Thanks dude. It's rare to run into a rational person on this forum. Best to you as well. If you're the type, God bless.
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RevivedPacifist posted...

r4X0r posted...

My wife and I are worth well into seven figures combined and I will be working maybe ten more years, so... no.

That's nice to hear, now you just have to get past those unavoidable accidents and terminal illnesses

I do work in a dangerous field, ironworking is the sixth most deadly industry after roofers, loggers, miners deep sea fishing... some other guys, then us, but I'm only planning on spending ten years in the field. I'll be fine.
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My wife and I are worth well into seven figures combined and I will be working maybe ten more years, so... no.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

M_Live posted...

Manocheese posted...

If someone's labor isn't worth $15 an hour, do they not deserve to have a job?

What defines worth? Do you know how expensive literally everything is in New York?

Hell if I'd live in a place like that.

People tend to use "New York" and "Manhattan" interchangeably and it's just not the case. My wife and I have a place in Queens and it's very affordable there.
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Here, one brushes against the window six feet away in high wind. At our house in Queens, I couldn't even guess.
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-Tupacrulez

Pound of chicken, broccoli, fettuccine, Alfredo sauce.
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MrToothHasYou posted...

last I checked it was super easy to do, tbh

I can assure you that setting up a modern digital sound board is in no way even remotely easy. I still don't know what a solid half of the controls on ours does.
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The right is a lot closer to the center these days than the left is because the Democrats have run so far left it's insane. In 2009 they claimed they weren't socialists, in 2019 they're promoting the Green New Deal, which by many definitions is communism combined with mass firearms confiscation. The right... we still just want a strong economy and job growth.
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I do audio engineering in my part time job. Good field to get into. It's also a lot of fun. We have a different lineup every week, varying numbers of vocalists, it's always a good time getting the best out of the mix.
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I think priority one is getting your buddy to back out of this wedding, he doesn't want a mother in law like that.
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That's actually what I work about half the time, with another quarter of the time being 6-3:30 and the rest being 7-whenever we're done. You're on the road before traffic builds, home at 4PM. I like it.

A couple of years ago I was commuting into New York City. My alarm was set to 3:30 AM, we left at 4, got to the city by 5, left by 1, home by 2. Only problem was that I would be falling asleep by 7:30 PM. Pay was great, though.
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Those are some pretty crappy Christians. Inclusivity was the idea of the faith from the very beginning. Think of the story of the three wise men, also called magi. They were magicians from the East, people who Jews of the era were told to stay away from. God spoke to them and summoned them to Israel, because the whole freaking idea of Christianity was that it was for everyone, not just the Jews. Yes, that includes interracial couples, and I'm one of many at my church who married interracially.
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My wife is from China and when we're at our Queens place, there's "real" Chinese food all over and most of it is inedible to me. All sorts of parts of animals that I'd never even consider eating. The grocery store around the corner is a total trip. Tote bins full of live frogs, live turtles, the seafood section is like a trip to the aquarium.

If you go to a "real" Chinese restaurant, do not for any reason order any sort of fish. They tend to cook it bone in, and if you're not good at eating fish like that, you could end up choking on a bone.
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