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There are people with basic human empathy outside of the arts, writing, and programming fields.

It's referring to a style of RPG that was created / popularized in Japan. Think of it like bread. If a bake French Bread in America, it doesn't suddenly become American Bread. It may be Made-In-America bread but it's still French Bread. No one even thinks twice about this.

This isn't even specific to bread or even food. Toyota has a factory in Kentucky. It's still a Japanese car, it's just made in America.

Video games are the only thing where there's a weird disagreement over it and I don't really get it.

But they specifically requested "JRPG". Not "greatest game". Breath of the Wild is no more JRPG than it is Character Action Game.

And if you'd like to be pedantic and argue that some people would call it that - well then sure. Some people would call anything anything and I guess genre labels have no value anymore.

......Ehh. I wouldn't say that.

If someone said "Recommend me a JRPG." and someone replied "Breath of the Wild" I think most people would look at them weird and think "That's not a JRPG...."

More likely it will read:

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Do you think XVI's sidequests didn't have character interactions?

I'd put the sidequests in roughly the same tier as far as quality with XVI being a little better. Only that there was less side content overall in XVI than Rebirth, which honestly is a great thing. There's too fucking much side garbage in Rebirth.

An RPG made in Japan doesnt really work, as for instance, FFIX was made in the US.

Interactive adventure stories, usually with a party of playable characters, usually not much depth in terms of roleplaying choices compared to WRPGs and especially CRPGs, with progression mechanics and either originating from Japan or inspired by games that were, with a heavy emphasis on story and character dialogue.

For instance, Chained Echoes and Sea of Stars were not made by Japanese developers, but theyre still JRPGs because they fit the rest and were inspired by them.

I also dont consider the FromSoft games JRPGs as they dont really fit this. They have progression mechanics and a high focus on building your character, but the storytelling is all environmental and the difficult combat is the highlight. So I consider these WRPGs made by Japanese developers.

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I have always counted From Software's RPGs as JRPGs. But that's just me.

Absolutely

But its not like its hard to identify when a conversation should end

check out shineboxphils topic for example, perfect example of mod intervention when things get heated

theres definitely a way to have politics open.. it just takes some work

JRPG (plural JRPGs)
1. (video games) Initialism of undefinedundefined , a traditional genre of role-playing video game generally understood as involving a pre-determined story and player characters, a party of multiple controllable characters, and an emphasis on narrative and storytelling.

Only Unicorn Overlord, I see Japanese tactical RPGs as a sub genre of JRPG.

So what I was talking about was back in the 90's, when somebody told you the game was an RPG, you had a number of checkboxes that it was probably gonna hit most of. Story-focused. Party-based. Turn-based. Town/dungeon structure. Swords and magic. Etc. None of those things, of course, were strict requirements. The genre as a whole got its identity from its tabletop ancestry. And that much remains true today. So it's not like anything has changed in that regard.

But what HAS changed is the scope of that tabletop influence. The last RACER I played had experience and skill trees. I've played scifi shooters *coughMassEffectcough* that for some reason people refuse to let me call shooters simply because you can talk to people and level up. Shredder's Revenge? Experience, leveling--RPG. Arkham City? Experience, skill trees.

Most people wouldn't really argue that my two examples from the other topic, Resident Evil 4 Remake and some Sonic game, would count as RPGs even if they do have some of the mechanics (or most of the examples in the previous paragraph for that matter), because ultimately the determination of genre is at more of a aesthetic level than a mechanic level. That's using the game design definition of the term "aesthetic" that summarizes the overall feel and appeal rather than just how it looks. For example, you do level up in Shredder's Revenge, but that alone doesn't make it an RPG, because at an aesthetic level, it's still a game where you beat up hordes of enemies just because they're in the way and not so much about... uh...

What are RPGs about again? Oh, that's right, this is one genre that's determined by its influences instead of its aesthetic. Which is probably why it's gotten so out of hand in terms of scope.

All I know is, when Final Fantasy 4 and Mass Effect 2 are the same genre according to pretty much everyone, well, what isn't?

A role playing game from Japan

i think they posted a picture of mike johnson with blood all over him? idk that's just what i read elsewhere.

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I don't use Navmesh, but looking at the mod page, there's a whole thing about generating a patch through the GECK. Did you go through all that?

It has to be Vortex installing things incorrectly then, that would be my best guess

Had the same issue a while back. Here is what I had done:

Delete all mods off the game then reinstall them.

If that doesn't work:

Make sure you are running a max 135 plugins. Things get janky when your run more than that in FO games.

If you have Mission Mojave, delete it and replace with YUP.

Make sure you are not running double of anything like weather mods or texture mods.

You have DBF, IWS, or Momod? Pick one and toss the others.

I dont have the navmesh mods, but i do have most of the mods youre using. Its weird that the yup patches are causing you issues.

try disabling the navmash mods.

Are you sure youve done the load order correctly?

Did you install NVSE and the 4GB patch? I know those are crucial to a lot of mods. I'm not familiar with Vortex but I remember the Mod Manager program made everything relatively painless

Mod Organizer 2 or bust.

Did you install NVSE and the 4GB patch? I know those are crucial to a lot of mods