Lurker > masterplum

I was put in purgatory for criticism of Gaza immediately after they attacked Israel.

Going to close my account as the changes to the website have been really off putting. It certainly isnt the b8 of 20 years ago, but thought I would let you know when I saw I was pinged. Glad you liked your gift.

PeaceFrog posted...

But EVEN IF we grant that hamas brutally murdered babies, it does not excuse the indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, when Gazans are literally not allowed to leave even if they want to.

Where exactly are you going to let them leave to? Countries have to let them in.

Unless we are going back to the initial formation of Israel but that is completely different

Except bbc has confirmed this story already and has found decapitated babies?

PeaceFrog posted...

I'll go out on a limb here.

What Hamas did in Israel was horrible.
What Netanyahu and his partners have done and are continuing to do is also atrocious.

Civilian deaths and punishing all civilians for the actions of a fundamentalist military are something we can condemn, regardless of who the perpetrators are.

Marco Rubio calling for a genocide against Palestinians because of Hamas' actions is not acceptable.

"Protect Israel at all costs" has been mutilated into "Israel has the right to commit any atrocities that it wishes upon Palestinians because they have no value to western interests" and I'm not particularly cool with that.

I mean

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/hamas-terrorists-murdered-40-babies-including-beheadings-says-report-2fdcCmtBjFvAcCCf5MDwKU

7.5

it bugged me quite a bit that the dna preserved memories. That made no sense.

Saying anything remotely offensive to someone who is currently under attack is ridiculously gross

He definitely just copy pasted that claim

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Absolutely fucking not. You claim right now. Whatever your predecessor has claimed has no baring on what you actually are.

Nah

wallmasterz posted...

Plum whos your biggest suspect, other than Dumey if Dumey is #1

I didn't like that peaf comment

htaeD posted...

Plums problem seems to be that he has no foresight or hindsight at all and is constantly reacting to the present events alone.

Correct

That's a dick move to peace out in the middle of a game regardless of alignment

exaxf votals dont really matter. I think we are on the same page here. Id someone wants to go out of their way to try to swerve the lynch thats more evidence against fhem

wallmasterz posted...

Abacus has been active nonstop today on discord and that pisses me off a little regardless of alignment.

Kill him

Tomorrow

I have like a 3/10 interest to begin with honestly. In a day when we have scum I am just skimming along to make sure nothing crazy happens

Am I crazy for thinking that is the worst part? I mean its mildly amusing but completely nonsensical

UltimaterializerX posted...

So do we take the guy scanned guilty or flip Abacus first in hopes of killing their blocker?

This is always terrible logic

Kill confirmed scum. Always

htaeD posted...

And Plum calling his claim 'random' is plain incorrect.
Abacus was in the lead and strapped for time. He claimed exactly at the right time and at the expected time.

His explanation of the claim today was very random. Why did he say anything

Peafs attack on me makes no sense btw. He is arguing I was pushing for FD in case Sultan didn't take off? Eh? If that were the case wouldn't I have... just kept pushing NL?

Doesn't seem to be a real argument.

Liking Abacus and Peaf for the last two scum here right now

Abacus prob scum. Jailkeeper is a super strong role and random claiming it is dumb

changmas posted...

ok i definitely should have waited that was really stupid of me actually

now he has prep time i am an idiot

yes, I would have just demanded a claim

but at this point I think we are pot commited and have to just lynch him. He obviously will claim scanner or something

The other problem is Sbell obviously went with a strategy of apathy because everyone else was apathetic.

thats not good. It probably means some of the apathetic players are town as they arent all going to be scum. Mzero? Abacus?

Just a pretty frustrating situation

Initial thought is this is a scum post

PeaceFrog posted...

+1

I like Dumey's like of thought on corrik. Not sure right now if i necessarily agree with it or not, but it's a good viewpoint to bring up.

Sbell has been very under the radar today. When he's been here it's been of little substance.

Sbell had no chance of being lynched when this was posted and I assume scum would be more acutely aware he was missing right after chang agrees. Possibly scummy there as well but slightly less likely

I hate mafia players

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I noticed that as well, but it doesn't feel avoidable

This is not a town post

What the hell

##Unvote
##Vote:FD

EDumey posted...

My only big hesitance with Sultan is that Red was in topic catching up, but then peaced out again without updating his vote or support for the lynch.

This is one of the reasons I'm not on sultan. Red looks super scummy

These are possibly the worst end of day votals I have ever seen

Forceful_Dragon posted...

How many years ago was this? Also how am I meandering? I've been trying to drive discussion and seek opinions.

Protests what? You're off the reservation here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks

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I'm not targeting it at anyone. Its a step in the right direction

Fine

##Unvote
##Vote:NL

If you think we are hitting scum with the top vote getter at 3 you are a moron

EDumey posted...

I have talked about your vote earlier, though I know you're probably just catching up and not seen it. But yes, I think your vote on FD is actively a bad one. Voting FD for providing a reason for unvoting someone, instead of just unvoting with no context is incredibly dumb. Especially considering your opening post about misplaced certainty or whatever it was.

Scum FD Meandered the last time he played.

His vote felt like scum FD. Prostests too much

Policy lynching when we haven't had mafia in months is really stupid

Mzero could have literally forgotten about the game

EDumey posted...

Plum, IGCD, and BCT's votes on FD are literally just petty votes.

This is a gross mischaracterization

Also FD not being on someone yet is wishy washy

I will accept an FD lynch. I will also accept a NL

I accept nothing else

Oh, leader has 3 votes.

I'm sure this will go well.

All aboard the NL train

Oh yeah this ends in 20 minutes doesn't it.

I was playing frosthaven with my son. So what's the plan

You know what

I'M GOING TO VOTE

##Unvote
##Vote:FD

Feels like someone trying to justify why they were unvoting when the justification was entirely unnecessary.

htaeD posted...

What about Lea's unvote?

I also don't like it but at least it doesn't have faux justification

Partial claims are stupid

Hate that people let people get away with them.

Hate FD's unvote

I would put a large amount of money that the votes on abacus will make zero impact on him showing up.

Nobody lurks this long day 1 on purpose

Can I ask anyone on abacus why him being gone makes him scum

it doesnt make sense as town or scum here

Oh we have 7 on abacus?

thats stupid as hell

UltimaterializerX posted...

It isnt unprecedented if youve been talking with the guy privately for like 4 months. Easiest read for me and I got it out of the way for a reason. But sure lets pretend I wasnt trying to get reads and actually play the game the way youre supposed to. We should reward bad inactive play instead. If you want me to never play mafia again because Im frankly completely over this shit happening every game regardless of what my role is, then by all means push another idiotic town mislynch attempt my way while multiple people arent posting. On day one. Again.

You know the only time people dont try to lynch me first every game? When I go inactive intentionally and dont post. Wow, imagine that. And I still try playing anyway because at some point I would hope people figure out how bad that style is for the community at large. Were 8 hours from deadline and topic 1 isnt even full yet. Thats embarrassing, and the direct cause is Board 8s own meta rewarding bad play game after game after game. This is why Plum quit and Chris went elsewhere. You people never learn anything.

So yet again, Im dipping out of day one because its what this board has decided is correct. I am not claiming, either, because at some point stupid mislynches and worse play need to be punished. I am willing to accept town losing 100% of games if it means people start actually learning lessons, but I know you guys wont. If you want an all time hilarious mislynch, knock yourselves out. Im completely over it for life at this point because no one. ever. learns.

Uh what

I quit because mafia makes me a worse person and I actively dislike who I become when playing it. It has nothing to do with other people

htaeD posted...

Is that because they are too hard to read, or because you didnt read them?
Dont take this as me trying to undermine you.
But you do understand that from my POV I know you are already 50 % wrong
(NL doesnt count as an opinion)

Half too hard to read, half the only reason I signed up for this game is it needed one more person and I felt bad.

I still think plum who doesnt really want to play is a replacement level mafia player, but I have no intention of actually doing any serious analyzing until final 7 or lylo

htaeD posted...

Actually lets talk Plum
Because If you are town, I feel like you're limiting yourself too much
Either because of a lack of motivation or because you are giving yourself tunnelvision.

Do you have any thoughts on players besides me and Red?
Of the active players I mean.

Nope!

htaeD posted...

Uhm, my vote is ON Sultan last time I checked

A bigger reason why
htaeD posted...

Thats just because I didnt think about wanting to lynch Abacus period
It was more me realizing lynching Sultan is theoretically as useless, just slightly more warranted

Doesn't make sense then!

Sultan lynch is dumb

Abacus lynch is dumb

Death trying to support the Sultan lynch without fully committing is scummy

NL>Death>Red right now

Won't vote for anyone else

It's really hard to believe someone would post this topic if they weren't an attention seeking whore

Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik has been busy. I think i like that.

Why

Scum Corrik is more than capable of being busy as scum, in fact I think he is more likely to be scum if he is trying hard

Dont like these red posts

Leafeon13N posted...

##unvote
##vote: Sultan

Hes been kind of a quiet one in recent hours we should poke him.

Do you not think he has already been poked? Why is your vote going to change that

htaeD posted...

Sultan at least should prove he can say more than votes

This is probably a scum post

The good news is anyone dumb enough to go through with this plan is also dumb enough to get fired fast