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| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/07/20 5:36:27 AM #89 | Frolex posted... I don't know of any shows that have literally called someone "a virgin who is very gross/undesirable", certainly not enough to warrant this level of complaining about it. Would you need people to turn to the camera an announce "I am a virgin who people find undesirable" before you'd acknowledge it? Do you get confused while watching every movie? "Why are people treating han solo as a charming rogue? He never literally announced himself as such" Frolex posted... He was meant to be seen as somebody for which getting sex was very hard. His chronic virginity is communicated to us via the movie, to that movie's credit they take it seriously but I was just using it as an overt example (which incidentally goes against your previous claim that such examples never happen) of a film telling you a character is a chronic virgin. Stop letting your poor reading comprehension cloud your ability to understand points. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/07/20 4:07:19 AM #87 | Look if I see a show and they are like Rare things should be treated like they are rare, when it comes to most things shows do ok at this, but when it comes to foreveralones being foreveralone shows seem incapable of doing this. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/07/20 3:15:33 AM #84 | I honestly struggle to think of a show or movie where a character is supposed to be undesirable and that character doesn't end up getting action. Did Erkel get action in Family Matters? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/07/20 3:11:00 AM #83 | Bandit_Keith posted... What show is this? Cookie Bag posted... 2 pages and people repeatedly asking what show it is and TC not saying what it is leads me to believe he knows he's talking bullshit and the moment they say the name of the show the cat is out of the bag lmao Not many people asked what show, and I don't like spoiling things but: SPOILERS This happens a lot in tv. Most if not all times a show tells us a character is a virgin or has never had a relationship or is very undesirable the show will just quickly have that change for a character and have it be no big deal. So yeah, Cookie Bag, I'm not talking bullshit. Stuff like this happens in most content where we are told a character is undesirable or a virgin. It's like Chekhov's virgin. If somebody is announced as a virgin in one act that person needs to be laid in the next. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/07/20 2:40:21 AM #80 | Frolex posted... Again, this is you projecting your views of what you think makes someone unlovable. No it literally isn't. The show and the characters will say "this person is a virgin who is very gross/undesirable". If all the characters in the show including the character in question are acting that way that obviously has nothing to do with me or anybody projecting. Shows and characters have plots and premises, when I saw the movie "The 40 year old virgin" it wasn't me "projecting" to think that character was a virgin. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | ITT: I rank the 55 movies released in 2019 that I saw this past year |
| joe40001 01/06/20 10:24:31 PM #35 | This seems like a fun idea, I should do this too --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | 69% of Americans have less than $1,000 in savings |
| joe40001 01/06/20 9:00:16 PM #154 | LinkPizza posted... You might need to hold an intervention for him...nice --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | What's the longest you've slept in one continuous, uninterrupted bout? |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:55:56 PM #10 | I've definitely done 18, not sure if I've gotten north of 20 before. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Best Breaking Bad episodes? |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:54:49 PM #10 | TheLastHero posted... Fly is not one of the best BB episodes lol Yeah it is. Breaking Bad is great because the plot and characters are so thoughtfully written, and 'Fly' is 100% built upon a rare introspective look that gives us arguably more characterization of what's going on in Walt's head than any other episodes. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:38:43 PM #77 | Frolex posted... Because people remaining virgins well into their adult years are the exceptions, not the rule. That's "the reality". You act like TV shows should depict having sex a single time or having one relationship as a massive lifetime achievement if it happens to someone that doesn't look like a supermodel. But that's not the case for most people since obviously only a small percentage of the population are actually supermodels, but the vast majority of people do enter into romantic or sexual relationships in their life. Firstly please don't tell me how I think, it's not polite or accurate. What I am saying is that when a show tells you a character is undesirable and a chronic socially awkward deformed loser loner, in that case it is a frustrating and common trope that events in the show almost immediately go against that. Frolex posted... You act like TV shows should depict having sex a single time or having one relationship as a massive lifetime achievement if it happens to someone that doesn't look like a supermodel. I think if you believe this you have not being paying attention. Sex is a big deal but it is relatively common for "normal" people, however it is by definition uncommon for people who it has never happened to. Particularly when a show tells you that person is a foreveralone loser gross/weird turbovirgin. If a show tells us a character never stands up for themselves, then it should be a rare big deal when they do. Not something that flippantly happens almost immediately. If a show tells us a character has never had sex, then it should be a rare big deal when they do. Not something that flippantly happens almost immediately. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:29:29 PM #76 | NinjaBreakfast posted... how is the main character being deformed and not getting laid not also wish fulfilment in this case? "see, theyre just like me! They can't get the rare treasure that is sex as society rejects them! I am so vindicated!" fuck off Pretty sure it's against TOS to tell people to fuck off, but whatever. Wish fulfillment is when a character in a show or movie gets something that the audience wishes they had and so they enjoy experiencing it vicariously. It obviously isn't any single choice in a show that an audience member prefers to another choice. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:25:40 PM #75 | King Rial posted... It really isn't that rare though. It happens often enough. Your views are just super skewed, and you've been told this many times. It is rare for people who are chronically lonely and undesirable. I'm not mad when a hot or normal person who has a normal personality gets laid (I role my eyes at shit like kevin james/adam sandler getting super models) but that's not the point of this, the point of this is about when a show tells you somebody is a unfuckable loser and then has them get banged the next ep. King Rial posted... Nah, it wasn't about being overworked. The episode was about the impact of being chronically lonely. Well it's good to hear somebody took it seriously. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 8:22:49 PM #73 | NinjaBreakfast posted... Reclusive internet dwelling nerds need to realise that social interactions and sexual encounters are the norm It's not the norm for everyone. That's the point. If a show announces a character is a loser, undesirable, or has major social issues that same character should not be banging 1 episode later. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | "If theres no money for universal healthcare, how do we pay for war"? |
| joe40001 01/06/20 3:25:12 AM #26 | Giblet_Enjoyer posted... There's no "way" in which capitalism is supposed to work though, that's just brainwashing. Saying that is like saying "this isn't how the weather is supposed to work" when it gets cold. My point was that even for people who have a more ideal version of the free market and how it should work, it isn't what's going on in healthcare. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 3:10:20 AM #56 | KogaSteelfang posted... It certainly is frustrating to see do often in media. So I can agree I think. Thanks, all I am saying it's a really overplayed trope that doesn't reflect the realities of many people. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 3:09:38 AM #55 | Frolex posted... Most people, whether they're pretty or ugly or whatever, do have sex and the majority of people will get married at some point in their lives, not just the attractive ones. You're letting your bitterness about relationships cloud your understanding of the world, and it's probably contributing to why you aren't successful in forming relationships with others. I'll ignore you attacks and stick to the reality. Plenty of people are virgins until late in life or at least really struggle and go years without relationships. This isn't reflected on tv like ever. People shows tell you are nerdy or unlovable should not have people falling over themselves for them by episode 3. The whole premise of the big bang theory is that those guys were uber nerds with no social skills and no hope of ever getting a girl because they were so clueless, yet how many times did they all get laid? Like a zillion. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/06/20 12:23:51 AM #46 | MC_BatCommander posted... ugly people fuck too tc Less frequently, and much less frequently with attractive people. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Iran puts a bounty on Trump's head for 80 million bucks |
| joe40001 01/06/20 12:02:29 AM #127 | La-li-lu-le-lo posted... What kind of dumb comment is this? Iran doesn't like america sure, but that's different than them being so pissed they are going to do something and that something is attack america rather than our president. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Iran puts a bounty on Trump's head for 80 million bucks |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:49:53 PM #125 | Honestly this gives me comfort. I'd rather they be mad at the president then mad at us as a country. I'm literally worried about WW3 and them nuking us or something. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | 69% of Americans have less than $1,000 in savings |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:46:43 PM #88 | PIITB415 posted... Honestly, I'm not surprised. Most people spend way beyond their means. Just suck to be poor but it's self inflicted. I know right? Like I know this one guy who keeps wasting his money on insulin, it's like dude, you are poor, stop wasting money frivolously! Live within your means as a poor person, and that means not being able to take care of your body or well being, duh. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:44:43 PM #44 | Kazi1212 posted... Imagine getting panties in a twist for a fictional character getting laid It's the trope of it happening implausibly that is annoying. If you got into a movie and then randomly a character could fly for no reason you'd be annoyed the movie just randomly ignored reality. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:43:37 PM #43 | ssjevot posted... No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer. People might want to see an incel detective dying of terminal cancer succeed in catching a murderer. It's cool to see somebody who struggles with a bunch of problems succeed at at least one thing. People love troubled heroes and detectives who despite their problems are damn good at their jobs. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:39:56 PM #41 | KillerKhan420 posted... Well Adam Sandler always gets the pretty woman, Seth Rogan gets the woman when neither are good looking guys. It's just TV man. Right, and it's annoying because otherwise tv does a decent job of reflecting reality when it wants to. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:32:56 PM #35 | King Rial posted... While not a "good" show, Chicago Med had a whole episode about this. A few characters on the show apparently have work and nothing else. One character has literally no friends and is apparently always alone.That sounds more like people struggling with being overworked rather than it not being trivial to have relationships, but still at least they made an effort which is more than 99.9% of content. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:31:24 PM #34 | sLaCkEr408___RJ posted... TC doesn't realize sex is a regular occurrence and that only weirdos with anti social personalities can't get some Sex is nowhere near as common as tv acts like it is. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:30:26 PM #33 | smoke_break posted... I get what you're saying but TV shows exist to make money, and most watchers don't want that kind of realism. I think'd be nice though, sometimes at least. IMO it helps to have people have real adversity. When it's so warped that hollywood literally finds it inconceivable somebody goes 40 days without sex that they make a movie about it clearly people are out of touch. The closest I've seen a movie do a decent job is "The 40 Year Old Virgin" and even in that movie he had women going for him earlier in his life, and then as an adult a few women throw themselves at him. It would be like if no movies or shows ever showed people with money troubles, anybody who is said to have money troubles in a show immediately by like episode 3 gets a bunch of money. It's not even good writing. And generally I find tv pretty good at reflecting a breadth of human experience, but when it comes to relationships they honestly can't imagine a person who in the show goes a month alone. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 11:22:17 PM #31 | King Rial posted... People that are deformed, chronically alone, and/or mentally unfit can and do end up in relationships in real life. So it's not unrealistic to depict it in a show. It happens. That's not how "realism" works. Just because something happens (rarely) in real life doesn't make it realism to have it happen in like every show ever. People have become the MVP of basketball or inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, but that doesn't mean it would be realism to have that happen as a common trope in tons of shows. In realism/good writing, improbable things are improbable, they happen sometimes but not often. But "undesirable" loner people getting relationships and sex easily is such an overplayed trope. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | "If theres no money for universal healthcare, how do we pay for war"? |
| joe40001 01/05/20 6:14:25 AM #22 | Keith_Valentine posted... Id rather pay for healthcare than wars, and im conservative. Hasnt research shown that the quality of care goes down, however, and people have to wait longer? The data shows the quality of care the US receives is not in keeping with how much it spends by a fairly large margin. The way the industry is structured much of the things like "comparison shopping" that factor into what makes capitalism work can't come into play when there are medical emergencies. Plus companies can price gouge things like insulin and people really have no recourse. If we stuck to more conservative capitalist ideals somebody else could just come in and sell better insulin at a cheaper price. 10 years ago a 55 inch LED Samsung HDTV cost $3,020 now a 55 inch LED Samsung 4K HDTV costs $350 10 years ago a vile of insulin cost about $93 now it costs $290, and this is the exact same product. This is not how capitalism is supposed to work. I don't care how many times fox news tells somebody "but america has the best doctors/hospitals" that 1. doesn't make it true, and 2. completely ignores the horrible anti-capitalist anti-american anti-human price gouging that is going on. I don't know how many people have to die of not being able to afford something whose patent was sold for 1 dollar in 1923 (because the inventors wanted all people to have access to it) for some people to wake up to see just how horrible and in desperate need of change our medical system needs to be. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 5:49:10 AM #19 | And if tv is supposed to be positive escapism then maybe tv shows could have lonely rejected people being successful in other ways rather than pretending that such chronic isolation and being without relationships never ever happens. Being chronically alone is never treated with acknowledgement or empathy in ways most things will have some shows or movies that take it seriously. How often is a protagonist romantically rejected in tv/film? I'm struggling to think of any content that has that unless it's a story of somebody with a character flaw which is why they got rejected. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 5:38:53 AM #16 | DrizztLink posted... I tried to watch Stephen Merchant's show "Hello Ladies" and couldn't get through two episodes. I should check it out. I'd like to see a show that is realistic about this kind of thing. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 5:34:35 AM #14 | ssjevot posted... In general shows tend to be optimistic because people don't tend to like negative escapism. Most criminals aren't caught, people don't recover or die from diseases, accidents, etc. But shows tend to focus on positive things. No one wants to watch an incel detective dying of terminal cancer fail to catch a murderer. People totally like realism. Or at least logical narrative rules. If everything is illogical bullshit writers make that doesn't derive from the universe or the rules of reality then it becomes meaningless. You'd be pissed if you were watching a movie and the villain pointed a gun at the hero and then pulled the trigger and then the bullet just curved back and hit the villain in the head. That "wish fulfillment escapism" isn't earned and is just frustrating. You can have stories of people "beating the odds" but let's not confuse that for stories where writers just ignore the odds. The later is lazy writing and really overdone. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 5:26:52 AM #6 | SH_expert44 posted... you sound super jealous It's a trope of unrealistic writing that happens insanely often. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | Could just once in human history an ugly person on a tv show not get laid |
| joe40001 01/05/20 3:18:07 AM #1 | Just started a new show, a person in it is literally deformed, talks about feeling undesirable and hopeless. By episode 3 they are getting laid. I'm so sick of that trope. It's like all of tv/film can't conceive of a person who goes 1 month let alone many many years without sex/relationships. Even if they are deformed weirdos. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
| Topic | I know it's trendy to hate on Will Smith, But Gemini Man wasn't terrible |
| joe40001 01/02/20 7:20:25 AM #1 | Decent action movie with compelling premise executed serviceably. Plus it's a good multi-performance from Will Smith. Why did everybody treat this film like it was hot garbage? Just because modern Will Smith is in it doesn't mean it's After Earth or Youtube Rewind. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 |
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