Lurker > averagejoel

Prismsblade posted...

Do some of you people not know or understand what a net positive is or are you just little kids who see only black or white?

We know exactly the kind of world the planet was prior to the US spreading its influence and spoilers, it wasn't a very good place at all. So why people think everything would have been better otherwise by now is beyond me.

it's not clear that the world would be a better place right now if the US didn't exist. it is extremely clear that the existence of the US' foreign policy has not been a net positive for the vast majority of the world

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g980 posted...

Ok so youve given up entirely and just want to pepper in your misunderstanding of taxes with insults

you're partly correct. I have given up on you entirely.

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krazychao5 posted...

guys, taxpayers money is not going into R&D. the only real time that happens is to combat a crisis, like gov't spending trillions on getting a covid vaccine to market. private companies are the ones spending money on R&D; and do you know why? it's because there are tax incentives to take risks and spend money looking to develop solutions and new technologies.

taxpayers' money tends to go towards social services and infrastructure.

publicly funded research is funded by the public. through taxes.

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Slaya4 posted...

Am I being trolled? What?

Bro, your argument was people have too much freedom to donate where their money goes and I countered and said that it's a good thing they have that freedom to do that and now I'm being told to read a book?

Lol, bruh ok. Have your hissy fit.

it's not a hissy fit. you just attempted to reframe the discussion in an extremely stupid way. if you don't want me to inform you that you did this, don't do it

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krazychao5 posted...

so the military that contracts services out to companies for a profit.

publicly funded technology research is funded by who do you think?

taxpayers

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Slaya4 posted...

My intent was to have a discussion. I didn't come at you sideways or aggressive

you did attempt to reframe the discussion in a completely disingenuous way though.

Its not wrong to think that I'm not entitled to how other people spend their money. People should, in fact, have a say where their money goes. How that's wrong? Idk, but ok.

yeah, this is a fucking stupid way to frame the discussion. read a book or something

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Slaya4 posted...

Ah, that's right I'm on CE.

you would still be wrong anywhere else

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Slaya4 posted...

And I'm saying they should have freedom on where their money goes. It should be that way. Since you don't have the power to do that with taxes.

cool. you're wrong

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g980 posted...

This is one of your weirder hang ups

"Rather than paying taxes"

You understand that charity donations are deducted from your taxable income, not directly from your tax liability?

The only way to not pay taxes by charity donations is to literally donate all of your income

In which case idk who wouldnt be ok with that as long as we are policing charities to be legit.

are you 12

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Slaya4 posted...

I would say that it should be that way. It's the year 2021 and I have no say where my taxes go to.

this conversation is about rich people donating to charities to avoid paying those taxes in the first place. people having some say in where their tax money goes is an entirely different conversation for an entirely different topic

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krazychao5 posted...

why shouldn't people choose where donate their money?

they should pay taxes to fund services that benefit people instead

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it's on the right track, but it's missing a few key components.

one issue is that rich people have way too much freedom in deciding where their money goes. that is; they can donate to a charity of their choosing -- maybe even one that they themselves created -- rather than paying taxes.

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pick4six posted...

A lot of people have Samurai tagged as a troll, I'm not 100% convinced he is black too. It's a common thing for Republicans online to pretend to be black to sneaky troll

personally I don't care if he's black. his opinion on this issue is terrible regardless of what colour his skin is

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it means "someone to the left of me" or "someone who approves of the soviet union more than me" depending on context

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less police is a good thing because it allows that funding to be allocated towards programs that actually improve people's lives and help them get out of poverty -- you know, poverty, the single biggest cause of crime

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Doe posted...

lol hunter diehards be like "nen is so complete and technical" and then ignore Specialist being the bigass asterisk that's "do whatever the writer wants including King Crimson"

or the fact that like 5 minutes into introducing nen, Kurapika gets Emperor Time that lets him use everything

Emperor Time does not let Kurapika use everything though

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Nothing screams support for democracy like overthrowing democratically elected Governments so American corporations can make money exploiting the resources and people of a country.

obviously "democracy" refers to the ability to participate in one election every four years between a right-wing party and a far-right-wing party who largely implement variations on the same policies

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mustachedmystic posted...

Crappy list notwithstanding, the majority of the world's population is better off then they would be under Chinese, or Russian hegemony. Not that it's an excuse, only the truth.

the majority of the population of countries that have been victims of US imperialism is far worse off than they would have been if the US had just stayed out of their country

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/critical-race-theory-history/2021/07/02/e90bc94a-da75-11eb-9bbb-37c30dcf9363_story.html

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why, stepbrother, I am rubbing my testicles on your drumset

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

https://pokepast.es/f5347e69bde594cb

RU team. If you have any advice Im interested but I probably wont get rid of lapras or goodra and Ill probably only get rid of sylveon for another eeveelution. I like these Pokmon a lot which is why I chose this tier. The other 3 were mostly just put in the team to try to synergize with them and cover up what they cant do

Goodra is so extremely unreliable. Ive been testing the team in anything goes and sometimes she will sweep a full Uber team and sometimes she will get destroyed by some random low tier Pokmon

you're going to get very different results in Anything Goes than you will in RU. you should focus on countering specific prominent RU threats rather than building it to counter everything. there are lots of things that you're just never going to encounter in RU.

I'm not super familiar with the meta, but looking at the pokemon list, you seem to be particularly vulnerable to Xurkitree. it commonly packs Thunderbolt, Energy Ball, and Dazzling Gleam, so you should try to have something that resists all three. Toxtricity maybe?

you should also have something to deal with Shell Smashers like Cloyster and Polteageist. Haze, Taunt, and strong priority moves are good. Klefki might be worth considering here. Sucker Punch is especially good for Polteageist.

I like Durant a lot, but if you're going with 4 attack moves, I recommend using Choice Band. I'd be more inclined to go with Hone Claws

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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

And I also agree with this. I commented on the whole issue of this user said this problem a few days ago. Glad to see others see the issue with this as well.

To many people like to just take other's word for it though because they can then pile on.

What's funny is that my comment on it very much an in general comment, but someone immediately accused me of defending someone I had no idea who it was. This place man...

yeah that's happened to me many times. if a bunch of people are lying or otherwise taking someone's words out of context, simply correcting the false information is somehow framed as "defending" the person in question

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"you know what they call a foot fetish in Paris?"
"they don't call it a foot fetish?"
"nah, they got the metric system. they wouldn't know what the fuck a foot is"

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

want to rate my pokemon team

sure, if it's for competitive play

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I remember reading a book one time where someone the main character knew had a dog that was... I think half german shepherd and half chihuahua. there was an internal monologue where the main character was like "I really hope the chihuahua was the female", saying that otherwise she wouldn't be getting much satisfaction out of the sex

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are other people aware of this restriction? it would be really convenient for dealing with people who think I'm insulting them when I describe their behaviour

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QueenCarly posted...

A lot more of our resident Nazis would be banned at least.

yeah I was gonna say. I'd very much count that as an improvement

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StarDestroyer posted...

Yes I do remember them but I was refering to unknown small tribes of them existing still. I thought they mentioned that there were more than two still remaining?

Oh and I forgot a "race", The Forsworn. They do seem to consider themselves different from Skyrims Nords and Bretons. I wonder if they are different enough to be considered their own race.

oh my god the forsworn questline was the worst thing about skyrim

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I know they're supposedly extinct, but I'd love to see Dwemer as a playable race

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BloodMoon7 posted...

I'll engage with people's words when they stop saying bullshit.

ok that's a fair point. I'm probably too generous with my credulity

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TheLiarParadox posted...

I don't think it would really matter if people here did.

it would certainly make people on this board more pleasant to interact with

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ROOTFayth posted...

don't worry Joel, nobody knows what to tell you, your social skills are next to zero it seems

I would argue that this is at least as "tactless" or insensitive as anything gunplagirl said. but am I going to make a big deal about it ? no. because I'm an adult.

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ButteryMales posted...

How would being anarcho capitalist change the value of Venezuelan exports?

the US probably wouldn't have placed sanctions on them

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One_Day_Remains posted...

People are having a "hate circlejerk" about it because it's extremely tactless to mention traumatic events people went through to try and make some sort of point to them.

tactless? sure. that absolutely does not merit the hate circlejerk. I don't think tact is inherently a positive thing

You literally do not need any extra context. It doesn't matter who she was talking to or what they believed, that's something you don't do, point blank.

that's a really strange line to draw. but yes, I absolutely do need more context. if you think being "tactless" merits that kind of backlash then I don't know what to tell you

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urban or urban light

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ROOTFayth posted...

well I don't think I really am,

this just means you don't recognize your biases

maybe a little because I just dislike gunpla's general behavior but to me it's pretty clear that bringing up someone's potential insecurity about a body part is not as bad a bringing up a recently deceased loved one

that is very much a form of bias

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ROOTFayth posted...

not really no my gf did not die

that doesn't mean you're not biased.

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Uta posted...

A lot of times, what someone actually says and what they mean are different. Or someone says something that has an inherent or hidden meaning without realizing it. IE: All the alt-right dog whistles going around like the "OK" hand sometimes being a symbol for white supremacy.

ok, fair in that context. but people like that tend stack dogwhistles on top of each other until they're audible by anyone with functioning ears.

it's also worth noting that the people who do shit like that tend to be some of the worst offenders in terms of refusing to engage directly with people's words.

I choose my words very carefully and it's extremely frustrating when people just pull shit out of their ass when they talk to me. it's equally frustrating when they expect the same of me

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ROOTFayth posted...

ok thank you, very interesting stance, you're obviously extremely biased though

and you're not?

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SwayM posted...

I agree with the sentiment in the OP and it is a serious problem on this board.

But TC isnt making a good case for it in this topic.

if anything, I think there are several people in this topic whose posts demonstrate my point quite handily

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ROOTFayth posted...

lol you don't even realize you're doing it, that's just rich

when have I ever claimed to be an expert in any field?

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ROOTFayth posted...

I know you're trying to be sarcastic and targeting me btw, I wish I could tell you that you're right but I don't really ever pretend to be an expert in any field I don't actually have extensive knowledge and experience about, also have no issue admitting I'm wrong

Joel never does that, ever, ever, ever

when have I ever pretended to be an expert in any field, period?

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ROOTFayth posted...

yes you read but you couldnt understand the words, so nothing can be done, youre kind of a lost cause in that area imho

I understood the words perfectly well. you're the one making things up and pretending you know what her "intent" was

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

I love the "WE NEED CONTEXT" argument when convenient.

I saw one slightly insensitive remark in the post. it absolutely does not merit the hate circle-jerk it caused. I am being extremely charitable and assuming that the broader context makes gunplagirl look worse. in order for it to merit that amount of backlash, it damn well better make her look a lot worse.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

I mean, that's patently false and I know you wouldn't be saying that if she wasn't your friend and outspoken about things you cared about.

If your parents passed away you absolutely would not be okay with someone bringing that up in discussion in an attempt to make a point to you. Nobody likes to be reminded about traumatic shit and people like Joe have complained about way less than that.

you should probably stop making assumptions about what people are or are not okay with

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ROOTFayth posted...

there was a screenshot posted of the post in question joel is refering to in the previous thread though, and he doesnt understand it the way a normal person does, and he absolutely never listens to reason, ever in any thread Ive seen him post in

by this you mean that I read the actual words in the post instead of making assumptions about stuff that was not said, right?

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Medussa posted...

we should honestly not be allowed to post "this user said " stuff. it's almost always embellished, if not outright lies.

maybe make an exception for actual screenshots. though even that's questionable without context.

and while i'm making requests, let's get rid of the dogpile posts, too.

the hostility is just getting quite tiresome at this point. it can't just be me, right?

this post gets the averagejoel stamp of approval

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Are you really this socially inept?

Serious question. Did you genuinely grow up with next to no social interaction?

there you go again, making things up again. this perfectly demonstrates the point of the topic in the first place.

Do you really need someone to explain in great detail to how the passing of a loved one is traumatizing? And why people don't take too kindly to traumatizing events being brought up?

it's not at all clear to me what the context around that post was, yet many people on here are basically having a hate circle-jerk about it. does that seem justified to you?

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