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Tough but fair... oh wait

deoxxys posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Holy shit. My son is so fucked when he goes to school.

naw im sure this is just an isolated case of nutjobs

You wish.

VioletMassacre posted...

'Muricans and their suspensions. Do they really think that solves anything?

Taught her a lesson.
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The character literally named Dark Lord, from Sword of Mana.

Voldemort might come in second, but a lot of other things pop to mind as well.
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It is a pretty awful holiday.
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Claude_Frollo posted...

SorenTheSage posted...

If I had the choice between saving the life of my cat or a felon, guess which one I'm picking.

Some crimes that are felonies aren't really bad enough to justify that choice.

Some cats are also amazing.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Life has no inherent objective value, other than what we subjectively ascribe to it. Most humans implicitly accept this fact even if they don't like to admit it to themselves.

That's not really true, though, is it? Within a society, some roles clearly have more value than others especially when it comes to quantity of labor. If 5 people were marooned on an uninhabited island with one being a doctor, one being a builder, one a hunter, one a cook, and the final being an elderly retired realtor, odds are that each one of the other five is more useful to the group -- and therefore has more value -- than the realtor, unless the realtor possesses some special skills to compensate for his age, etc (at which point the cook might be the most useless person or, if the island had no animals, the hunter would be useless).
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Damnit, was going to say SFII but then I saw Pokemon.
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Some animals are clearly worth more than some people. If we're talking about an endangered tiger, its life is going to be worth more than most peoples' because there are tons of humans and very few tigers. That's not even touching value to society where some people are more valuable to society than others. While we give the same vote to a janitor as we do to a doctor, a doctor's skill set is more valuable because you could easily teach a doctor to do janitorial work but it would take years to teach a janitor to be a halfway decent doctor.
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darkknight109 posted...

"You should put up with people you disagree with, everyone's entitled to their opinion," say a bunch of people who disagree with the TC and their opinion on how to handle the situation.

And clearly everybody is putting up with him because if he was on our ignore list we wouldn't be able to see the topic....

RCtheWSBC posted...

Zeus posted...

And I assume he wants him fired because he's likely one of Fox's token liberals.

Shep Smith came out on air as gay on Fox News in October 2016 and has never been identified as a liberal by himself or his colleagues.Baseless assumption to make, as if homosexual people can't believe in or appear in conservative spaces.

Hence why I said "assume" because I don't watch Fox News.

OmegaTomHank posted...

Zeus just goes around waving a confederate flag and generally being a dick to people?


"What? This is normal You liberals need to stop infringing on my basic right"


Weirdo..

>Makes a bizarre nonsequitur about confederate flags for no reason
>Calls somebody else weird

Stay classy, Shenti.

RCtheWSBC posted...

Dude's a wannabe PO. He's old enough, and he has the post length down, but lacks in the substance.

Accuses the wannabe Jen. >_>

At least you're switching up some of your shitposts, which is a nice change.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Someone already wrote that book. It was called 1984.

I think the government there both encouraged and discouraged political correctness depending on the specific context. The entire point was taking advantage of doublethink to keep society loyal to them, after all.

It encouraged only one frame of thought and criminalized the other, so it was exactly like PC culture.

adjl posted...

Depends. Does "politically correct" mean "being nice to people," or "adhering to whatever arbitrary social conventions are the new flavour of the month"? The former would be nice, but in practice, trying to enforce the former will pretty inevitably end up as the latter, and that's just a mess.

PC has never been about being nice.
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Bugmeat posted...

George Carlin

I wasn't much of a Carlin fan before hearing some of his anti-PC stuff again, which gave some catchy slogans. The man also really hates handicapped parking... or maybe I'm thinking of Penn?

Entity13 posted...

Pretty much everyone in the Parks and Rec cast. I don't hate them, but they simply don't do it for me.

Reminds me I forgot to list Aziz Ansari, my least fave P&R character whose standup bored me and whose Master of None I quit watching after the second or third episode, which is rare for me. Granted, I never liked the character of Donna either. Most of the others I liked.

helIy posted...

Dave Chapelle.

he is absolutely not funny and uses it to cover up his extreme racism.

I almost mentioned him, but then I remembered chuckling at the chicken story.
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Sherm128 posted...

I heard that they're charging the getaway driver with the murders of the 3 teens because she was in on the break in

Getaway driver already strongly implies she was in on the crime, otherwise she wouldn't be sitting in a car waiting while three friends don face masks and sneak into somebody's home. =p

That and one of the articles mentions she might have orchestrated the thing.
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InfernalFive posted...

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JTekashiro posted...

Zeus posted...

JTekashiro posted...

America, where property matters more than people. You guys are aware that burglary isn't considered a violent crime, right?

Let's be real here, if the kids that got shot were white and the homeowner wasn't this wouldn't be a case of self defence. Additionally, how the hell is it possibly self defence when you shot three people? The other two teenage boys kept coming after seeing shots fired? Pretty doubtful. The kid probably waited for the burglars to get in so he could get the drop on them. I will not be surprised if it turns out that one of the kids was shot in the back.

It was a group of armed men with deadly weapons invading his home who he first tried to threaten. It was almost certainly intended to be a violent crime rather than a simple robbery, so your usual gutter-tier trolling is debunked.

You seem to think anything a person carries is a deadly weapon. We're talking about brass knuckles and a knife here. Seeing as these kids broke in at night I have a hard time believing any of the weapons were identified prior to firing. Additionally, they broke into his home to steal things, not to assault him. They likely had no intentions of violence.

You have no clue if anybody was threatened just like I have no clue if he waited to get the drop on them. The only person that claims words were exchanged shot and killed three people so one has to question the source.

For the record, this is only a debate because it is in America. In any other country you would get charged for shooting these kids. Bringing a gun to knife fight is actually upping the level of violence, not reducing it.

You really don't think you're wrong.

Huh.

The guy is just a troll, just chuckle and move on.

Pretty much.
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Claude_Frollo posted...

Ass-pull alert! Unless you can come up with some examples of them reacting to something I said.

I'm not your biographer but, if I was, I'd likely need treatment for clinical depression.

Claude_Frollo posted...

Except the structure and wording of your example and your actual post are not the same.

Because I didn't use a comma? That's weak.
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Claude_Frollo posted...

I reiterate since it seemed to not sink in with you; I vent on PotD. You seem to think I say this stuff to their face, which I don't.

I hear their reactions, which strongly imply that you did something.

Claude_Frollo posted...

I understand and I'm not really attacking you for the logical inconsistency of what you said(hence the little emotion thing which I don't like doing) as it's understandable. But the self-contradiction is still funny.

I honestly don't see a contradiction when there's a built-in disclaimer. Saying "I never raise my voice" while shouting is a contradiction; telling somebody "I never raise my voice except when talking to you" is not.
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Amy Schumer, Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, and... probably a few more.

Mead posted...

For me that is Adam Corolla. Never understood why people like him, I just think he is annoying.

Yes.

darkknight109 posted...

I never liked Adam Sandler, Chevy Chase, or Will Farrell. Also about 50% of Mike Myers' stuff (mostly his later, post-SNL career).

Agreed, except I like some of Chase's older stuff and I thought Farrell had his moments in Talladega Nights.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

dane cook

FourthDimension posted...

Dane cook

Of course.
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Claude_Frollo posted...

How do you think I act in my day-to-day life? I'm honestly curious. I don't go around offending dozens of people within the course of any given day. I constantly keep my trap shut and keep the peace even when I find things said to be despicable, at least as far as being around my family is concerned. Then I come to PotD to vent.

From your complaints about conversations with friends, family members, etc, it certainly hasn't sounded like you keep your mouth shut.

Claude_Frollo posted...

I never dance around my beliefs, except for this particular instance in which I dance around my beliefs. :p

It just means that if I think somebody is being a complete idiot, I'm not going to come out and say that I think they're being a complete idiot. Mostly because ad hominems rarely improve an argument.
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Claude_Frollo posted...

Zeus posted...

And I assume he wants him fired because he's likely one of Fox's token liberals. The fact that he's gay is just another thing that your friend has to complain about him. If the person was black, you'd probably hear an n-word dropped.

Are you defending him? Because that's a really shitty defense.

No, I'm explaining his likely motivations. Frankly, the fact that he offends you in any capacity does not warrant a need for anybody to defend him. Further, I'm sure you offend dozens of people within the course of any given day, for which you wouldn't need to be defended either.

Kana posted...

Yeah honestly it's a weird fucking post but Zeus does a lot of dancing around beliefs he clearly holds and thinking nobody notices so that's my best guess

I never dance around my beliefs. I'm pretty straightforward with any strongly-held opinion, with the exclusion of unkind opinions regarding specific persons which I tend to couch.
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Muscles posted...

Hold on a second, we definitely shouldn't put up with people that think cheesecake is gross

Once again I enter a community which discriminates against me #RiseAboveHate #RiseAboveCheesecake

Claude_Frollo posted...

dedbus posted...

Besides some colorful banter, I don't see any clear indication of bigotry.

He wants a man fired because he's gay.

And I assume he wants him fired because he's likely one of Fox's token liberals. The fact that he's gay is just another thing that your friend has to complain about him. If the person was black, you'd probably hear an n-word dropped.
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Clearly this topic is a tacky parody of my "Lunch with a homophone" topic!
>_>
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kukukupo posted...

berniepanders posted...

Claude_Frollo posted...

Next time I get invited to lunch with this guy I need some excuse to get out of it.

or you could accept the fact that some people have opinions that you find distasteful, suck it up, and go to lunch with your grandfather like an adult

or just run away and regret choosing to skip time with him when he dies, whatever

Pretty much this.

Indeed. Unless you have a massively large family or some nonsense.

Jen0125 posted...

idk why people act like you need to put up with shitty people just because you're related

you don't choose your family

if you don't like them you aren't under any obligation to spend time with them

I imagine Jen's holidays are very lonely =p

Mead posted...

How can people still be anti gay

Why do they even care

How can people care about people being anti-gay for that matter? This idea about being having different ideas, lifestyles, and belief systems is so crazy! How can people like or hate things?!
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

saspa posted...

aren't a fan of music

Do you just hate fun, like as a rule?

tbh, music and sports were always two things I was just never able to get into either.
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Talk radio, audiobooks, and carpools. Or taking a train so I can nap. Granted, it's sometimes easier to just move (since saving 2 hours a weekday is about 104 hours saved each year) or find a job with a better commute.
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Mead posted...

I'll never understand people who make poor people out to be villainous, capitalism depends on most people being poor

Actually, it doesn't. However, socialism depends on capitalism being vilified to not only offer itself as a replacement but to cover for its countless shortcomings.

Lokarin posted...

Zeus posted...

I really can't tell your snark posts from your s***posts.

Im legit pure snark, people are mistaking my snark for shit lately... but really, there is an over abundance of love songs such as four on the floor

Probably because you do many shit topics. As for love, most people have experienced some feeling which they identify as love. Teens in particular fall in and out of what they think is love many times throughout high school.

Erik_P posted...

It's not snarky or shitposting to say what Lokarin said.

I hate to break it to ya Zeus, but if a rapper talks about murder that doesn't mean they murdered someone.

Which is the silly and wrong idea that somebody has to have done something to write or sing out it. Murder is a part of thug life and, while most thugs haven't killed anybody, many of them fantasize about killing people. And, in general, murder isn't uncommon in our culture especially among the black community (half of all homicides in the US involve a black perpetrator and black victim) which, generally speaking, is the primary demographic for rap.

wolfy42 posted...

But yeah, not everyone can be rich, over 50% of the jobs in this country pay less then $15 an hour, or low enough to be considered "poor" if you work it full time. That pretty much has to stay that way for society to work the way it does right now and the rich to continue to enjoy their current lifestyles and opportunities.

Few things: While not everybody in this country can be rich at the same time, anybody in this country can be rich and most people are capable of earning a good income by the time they die.

Low-end jobs will always exist but, the fewer people around to do them, the more that the jobs will be forced to pay or to immigrate people to do the jobs (coincidentally, the H1B1 Visa program is used to screw Americans out of jobs since it gives guaranteed labor at a cheaper price). And, in general, if all people were equally intelligent and motivated, people would start low-paying jobs in their youth and work their way up over their lifetime. In our current system, a capable, intelligent, and motivated young person can leapfrog through the system while unmotivated, incapable older workers stay at the bottom.

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wolfy42 posted...

So when the rich complain about the poor, it's like complaining about your slaves not being happy enough about being slaves.

yay capitalism

the snake that eats itself

More like socialism, given that it entails taking productive effort to allow and encourage people to be unproductive >_> It's an inherently self-destructive system.
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Olympian.
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I can't imagine not hanging there for a few weeks, although I've never been for just that reason. If I ever get laid off, etc, and I have more than enough cash on hand, I'll probably just go on holiday there for a few weeks.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Basically, the game could almost be more accurately be described as "Breadth of the Wild". Nearly all of the aspects people are praising revolve around exploration and the sheer size of the map as core gameplay. Even weapon breaking ties into that, because it forces you to experiment with new items and new methods of play rather than simply finding the most powerful sword you can and just spam the most effective attack strategies. The game wants you to explore and discover everything on your own, and wants to force you out of your comfort zone in order to make sure you're actually doing that. In some ways, it's more true to the original Legend of Zelda on the NES than anything that's come after.

Ha.

Honestly, that's one of the things which appeals to me the most since previous Zeldas have felt small and linear compared to the earlier games which had more of an impression of a full world. At this point, I'm honestly not sure how long I'll wait to get a Switch for it.

Entity13 posted...

Replayability is nil to anyone who ISN'T a speed runner, somehow made worse by the inability to make a new file of the game unless you either delete the old one or make a new profile on your system

Well, that's ridiculous.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Zeus posted...

I like the character, but he's not terribly relevant.

Some would argue that he might be the most relevant character in the entire series.

Any number of people have basically described the entire story as being nothing more than the chess match being played between Littlefinger and Varys.

I've never really bought into that argument, especially because the two would at most have limited knowledge of the others' machinations and Littlefinger would have little insight into Varys's motives (unless the books reveal differently). Plus Littlefinger's plotting would essentially amount to a Xanatos Roulette whereas most of Varys's actions have been more grounded.

And keep in mind that most of Littlefinger's schemes actually benefit Varys. A weakened, fractured kingdom allows Dany, etc, to easily claim the throne. Meanwhile Littlefinger's machinations just help him climb the ranks in the established, but weakened order
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Claude_Frollo posted...

PK_Spam posted...

And his actor is just... horrible. Aidan Gillen doesn't know how to properly deliver a single line without coming across as wooden and c***y, especially when he has no reason to. I liked him for all of 2 episodes before I realized his own real trait is "shady infobroker."

Oh, I'm sorry. Do you think you could do better?

Carl with the the juvenile logical fallacy....
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Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

That's kind of his thing. People underestimate him while he plots. He's a snake in the grass type of character.

Except nobody seems to really trust him. He's a great information broker who occasionally plays one side against the other, but I'm not sure how much of an end-game he really has.

At least with Varys, people seemed to like and trust him despite the fact he's also a schemer and a more successful schemer at that because everything the other characters have done has actually only served to benefit his plan to restore the Targaryens to power.

Erik_P posted...

He's delivering his lines exactly as he's supposed to. He's always a step ahead of everyone else so he can afford to be arrogant.

He's actually not, as evidenced when Tyrion played him. He's also had several close calls, not counting in the most recent season when his big plan backfires because he saves the day during "The Battle of the Bastards" but Jon Snow winds up King in the North instead of Lady Sansa ruling it
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I like the character, but he's not terribly relevant. He's also probably as big a monster as Joffrey.

PK_Spam posted...

I really hope that fucker does moving forward. And quickly too. I don't want any more of that nonsense that Theon, the human embodiment of suffering, got.

At least Theon has semi-interesting things going on with him.

Theon was insufferable before, and even later on he's still annoying. I do feel somewhat bad about the fact that he had his dick chopped off
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darkknight109 posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

does NOT matter

It absolutely matters. Malice aforethought is literally the difference between murder and manslaughter. If you don't intend for someone to die then, by the legal definition, it is impossible for you to have committed murder.

That legal definition varies state to state. Manslaughter while in the commission of a crime is legally treated as murder in several areas, apparently.
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

It was a group of armed men with deadly weapons invading his home who he first tried to threaten. It was almost certainly intended to be a violent crime rather than a simple robbery, so your usual gutter-tier trolling is debunked.

Disagree. The weapons may have been brought for intimidation and/or to use if they were attacked by the homeowner rather than for the express purpose of violence; it's impossible to know without asking the now-dead perpetrators.

It also makes little difference. Even if they were unarmed, there were three of them; the son would still have been justified in his use of force regardless.

In isolation, the bringing of weapons might seem less menacing if not for the fact that they first realized that somebody was at home -- which would cause a normal thief to flee -- and then were threatened with a weapon yet still didn't flee. That strongly implies something more sinister.
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JTekashiro posted...

America, where property matters more than people. You guys are aware that burglary isn't considered a violent crime, right?

Let's be real here, if the kids that got shot were white and the homeowner wasn't this wouldn't be a case of self defence. Additionally, how the hell is it possibly self defence when you shot three people? The other two teenage boys kept coming after seeing shots fired? Pretty doubtful. The kid probably waited for the burglars to get in so he could get the drop on them. I will not be surprised if it turns out that one of the kids was shot in the back.

It was a group of armed men with deadly weapons invading his home who he first tried to threaten. It was almost certainly intended to be a violent crime rather than a simple robbery, so your usual gutter-tier trolling is debunked.
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ClarkDuke posted...

But I'm proud he resisted the urge to mock my cancer this topic.

You mean the cancer you faked having to troll me? I already addressed your fake claims:

Zeus posted...

But, given that you trolled about having cancer and distastefully used an image of a man giving himself a mammogram as part of your sick joke, this level of nonsense is to be expected.

ClarkDuke posted...

Junk

In general, I'm not sure why you haven't been IP-banned given how many of your troll alts have gotten the ax already only for you to make a new one.
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adjl posted...

Zeus posted...

abusing the mention system again to troll?

Using the mention system to attract the attention of somebody whom you wish to invite to join the discussion is exactly what it's for. That's neither abuse nor trolling. If you feel you can't contribute anything, such that you would prefer to pretend you hadn't noticed the topic rather than having to face that reality, that's entirely your own problem.

You might have a better point if I didn't have 25 mentions atm, almost of them coming from Erik or somebody who quoted Erik. Some of them were from posts where he just said "@___"
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adjl posted...

Jackal4 posted...

The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her.

If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths.

It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to.

First I've heard of that. Is it a named legal principle which I could easily look up?

Golden Road posted...

Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.

Pretty much.
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Veedrock- posted...

Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim?

Liberals, mostly. The UK and some other countries have gone so far to suggest a "Duty to Retreat" where, if you're being attacked by somebody intent on killing you, you have to demonstrate that you took every available effort to escape the encounter before killing them in self-defense.

Bearing in mind that even in the US, most times if you execute an already-incapacitated attacker you'll likely get in trouble over it with the possible exception of either the Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. In general, though, when you're attacked within your home and retaliate that generally is seen to fall more under the Castle Doctrine whereas SYG is really intended to extend the right of the Castle Doctrine to broader self-defense outside of a property you own.
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Oh, assumed the kid would be younger >_> At any rate, he was facing armed intruders. Unfortunately for them, he was better armed.
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Jen0125 posted...

Zeus posted...

(common enough to make it into a song)

just because someone writes a lyric in a song doesn't mean that occurrence is common

It's clearly a big enough thing that people are aware of and can relate to the practice.

Lokarin posted...

Jen0125 posted...

just because someone writes a lyric in a song doesn't mean that occurrence is common

Ya, otherwise everyone would be in love

I really can't tell your snark posts from your shitposts.
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Even if the ACA didn't jack up prices making healthcare less affordable (and shoving a heavier financial burden on young people), a lot of it DOES come down to how people spend their money since you'll always have people who spend their rent money on bottle service (common enough to make it into a song) and other ridiculous shit. Even if you have a ton of money, if you manage it poorly you're going to be broke. Just look at the countless big lotto winners and former pro athletes who went completely bust.

On the other end of the extreme, you have people who actually can't afford it but buy it anyway because they're willing to make drastic cuts to pay for it when they're unable to take on extra work. These are just some of the people hurt by the ACA which has jacked up their rates -- often at little additional value.

DeltaBladeX posted...

Did that guy ever realise how stupid he was?

Do Daily Show correspondents ever realize how stupid they are?
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Erik_P posted...

Reuters is like the AP. The report the news as it is without slant. It's supposed to sound boring. They would make WWIII sound yawn inducing.

It's not that it sounds boring, it's that the clarification makes the meeting sound even more harmless because he hadn't even gone out of his way to meet the guy.
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The Wave Master posted...

Just in time. New Spider-Man trailer!!!

Not terribly excited, although it looks like the character drama elements will be decent. Really not loving that Vulture costume, though. It has shades of the Giamatti Rhino and Willem Defoe Green Goblin.

Smarkil posted...

Raganork10 posted...

I'm getting tired of these Spider-Man reboots. I know this is only the third attempt in the past two decades, but still, it bothers me. And apparently this is another British actor. I guess Peter Parker was secretly from England in the comics. I don't know; I never read them.

Yeah but at least this is done with Marvel running the show. There's no way it's not better than the other iterations.

ASM1 was amazing, ASM2 had its moments. Tobey Spidey 1 & 2 were okay films despite the goofiness.

Given the quality of MCU films, I don't expect Homecoming to be better. Instead, I expect that it'll be a passable film designed more to set up another film rather than stand on its own merits. The *only* plus is that it likely won't be a retelling of the origin story.
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Reuters makes it sound even more non-troversial

Kushner previously acknowledged meeting the Russian ambassador to Washington last December and only on Monday did it emerge that executives of Russian state development bank Vnesheconombank (VEB) had talks with Kushner during a bank roadshow last year.

The bank said in an emailed statement that as part of its preparing a new strategy, its executives met representatives of financial institutes in Europe, Asia and America.

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So @ClarkDuke and @Erik_P are abusing the mention system again to troll? Tsk, tsk, naughy kids. At any rate, it's telling that you're relying on a blog for your information. More importantly, given that this is a meeting into Russian collusion into the campaign itself, somehow "HE MET WITH A BANKER!" seems less noteworthy than "HE MET WITH THE RUSSIAN FIS!" But, given that you trolled about having cancer and distastefully used an image of a man giving himself a mammogram as part of your sick joke, this level of nonsense is to be expected.
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