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FINALLY... 2020's Ultimate Loser is...

Hades > FF7 Remake > Ori 2 > Doom Eternal > Hyrule Warriors AoC > Crusader Kings III > Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory

If FF7 Remake had pulled off the win, the Ultimate Loser would have been Cyberpunk 2077, but seeing an unnecessary Kingdom Hearts spinoff get this after getting crushed by Crusader Kings III is as equally satisfying, if not more so. Huge thanks to everyone who took part in nominating and voting for their favorite games of 2020. Easily the best tournament I've done in all the time I've spent on this board.



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Now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jmj_ochRjk

Shonen_Bat posted...

Great final.

Epyo posted...

oo definitely my #1 and #2 for the year.

INCEPTlON posted...

Not going to complain about Hades winning though

Kamekguy posted...

Both intensely deserving

Suprak the Stud posted...

Both super good.

MikeTavish posted...

they're both so good.

UltimaterializerX posted...

This is easily the best final you've ever had. Thanks for running this, brother. Two games who absolutely deserve to win.

The consensus going into the 2020 Championship was "Whoever Wins, We All Do". Without any hesitation whatsoever, Hades immediately built a huge lead right out the gate. I was sitting there on my 24 hour duty shift keeping tabs on my phone what the score was and I was preparing to compare it to the blowout that Portal 2 did on Uncharted 3 in the 2011 Championship (36-13). At one point, Hades was up by a commanding score of 21-8 and it seemed all but over. However...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnJz5IwCeDY

Final Fantasy VII Remake absolutely refused to give up. A surge of votes came in during the final quarter and it was no longer a guarantee that Hades was going to escape with the championship. I counted every last vote twice and here's what I got...

Hades
Para
Shonen Bat
Zazi
Mac Arrowny
Cody
swirldude
MrSmartGuy
Evilorexdeath
neonreaper
Ulti (10)
Sorozone
KCF
Lightning Strikes
Mythiot
FFD
malyg
WavedFan
NeoElfboy
azuarc
Ark of Turus (20)
MZero
Hbthebattle
changmas
Casanova
Raka
Ngamer
red13n
trdl23
Bane of Despair
firefdr (30)
Seanchan
Kamekguy
PumpkinCoach
JeffreyRaze
Place (35)

FF7 Remake
ctes
SwiftyDC
Zero Signal
stingers
Whiskey Nick
Epyo
colliding
Snake555555
Arti
Menji (10)
Haunter
Spike
Axl Rose
ShatteredElysium
Vlado
Cavedweller
PirateKing
DireKrow
Steiner
INCEPTION (20)
Calintares
UberPyro
XIII Rocks
Zigzagoon
MartinFF7
mccheyne
Japago
HBJ
Suprak
MikeTavish (30)
ManaSword
Yoblazer
Great Paul
Nintendogs (34)

Final score: Hades wins Best Game of 2020 with a 35-34 finish

Holy hell. This puts Square at a miserable 1-8 in the championship, but damn did Final Fantasy VII Remake give Hades one hell of a fight. Ulti was right, this was without question the best championship I've had in the 25 tournaments I've done this from 1996 to 2020, and I've had the following before...

• Dark Souls III beating Pokemon Sun/Moon by a single vote casted in the final 8 seconds of overtime in 2016
• A Link Between Worlds beating The Last of Us in overtime in 2013
• Metroid Prime and Kingdom Hearts battling into overtime in 2002 in a match that had a combined 141 votes in 2 days
• Final Fantasy VIII and Spyro 2 going into double overtime in the 1999 tournament in a match that had a combined 137 votes and had Spyro only winning by 3 in the end

This outdoes them all. Someone in the nominating topic even posted the prediction of Hades beating FF7 Remake in the finals knowing Square's ability to choke hard in the championship. Hades went through a murderer's row of incredibly acclaimed titles, beating Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2, Animal Crossing: New Horizons, and Final Fantasy VII Remake to claim the latest crown. And if there were X-Stats, Hades pretty much made FF7R, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, and Ghost of Tsushima all look like a million dollars.

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I gave Age of Extinction a shot cause I was on a mission in Poland and someone had the movie.

Instant regret. Holy hell it was trash. Haven't bothered with Last Knight

Meanwhile Bumblebee was a great watch. Who'd have though a Transformers film with John Cena would be the best in its series?

(Not having Michael Bay direct helps too)

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UltimaterializerX posted...

This is easily the best final you've ever had. Thanks for running this, brother. Two games who absolutely deserve to win.

That is a bold, yet super enlightening statement from you dude



My GotY was Ori and the Will of the Wisps but there's zero shame in a semifinals finish. There'll be much to discuss when it's time to discuss the final score in under an hour, because you're right that it's easily one of the best championship games in the 25 tournaments I've done.

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For the kind of film it is, Armageddon's too long. It's not a terrible movie by any means, it just isn't good either.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

By my count, it's tied at 29.

That may be inaccurate tho because of possible blocked users some which way. I didn't count while logged out.

You got some blocked for Hades. I won't say how many, but they're there. Regardless, this championship match is heating up with less than 2 hours to go!

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Ngamer64 posted...

Has to be one of the Transformers (well, first one was fine).

But The Island is actually awesome, glad it's got no votes!

From my experience with Bay films...

The Rock > Transformers > Island > Bad Boys > 13 Hours > Pain and Gain > Bad Boys 2 > Armageddon > Dark of the Moon > Revenge of the Fallen > Pearl Harbor > Age of Extinction

Haven't watched Last Knight or Six Underground. I genuinely consider the first 4 film here to be great. Everything from 13 Hours to Dark is mediocre at best, and the last 3 are hot garbage

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Steiner posted...

that list is basically nonsense

There's definitely a lot wrong with the list, but him thinking there are 15 Rumbles worse than 1999 is hilarious.

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411's Rob Stewart adds this year's Rumbles to his all time rankings. As always, take this list with a grain of salt

1. 2001 (Austin III) 10/10
2. 2010 (Edge I) 9/10
3. 2004 (Benoit) 9/10
4. 1992 (Flair) 9/10
5. 2007 (The Undertaker) 8/10
6. 2019W (Becky Lynch) 8/10
7. 1997 (Austin I) 8/10
8. 1998 (Austin II) 8/10
9. 2008 (Cena I) 7/10
10. 2018 (Nakamura) 7/10
11. 2021W (Belair) 7/10
12. 2002 (HHH I) 7/10
13. 2018W (Asuka) 6/10
14. 2016 (HHH II) 6/10
15. 2005 (Batista I) 6/10
16. 2020 (McIntyre) 6/10
17. 2017 (Orton II) 6/10
18. 2003 (Lesnar) - 5/10
19. 1989 (Studd) 5/10
20. 1996 (Michaels II) 5/10
21. 2019 (Rollins) 5/10
22. 2011 (Del Rio) 5/10
23. 1999 (McMahon) 4/10
24. 1993 (Yokozuna) 4/10
25. 2020W (Charlotte) 4/10
26. 1990 (Hogan I) 4/10
27. 1994 (Hart/Luger) 4/10
28. 2013 (Cena II) 4/10
29. 2009 (Orton I) 4/10
30. 2012 (Sheamus) 3/10
31. 1991 (Hogan II) 3/10
32. 2014 (Batista II) 3/10
33. 2006 (Mysterio) 3/10
34. 2000 (The Rock) 3/10
35. 2021 (Edge II) 3/10
36. 1995 (Michaels I) 2/10
37. 1988 (Duggan) 2/10
38. 2015 (Reigns) 1/10

1999 is ridiculously ranked too high

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FFDragon posted...

Her gimmick is internet troll, but she's way better at it than Retribution ever was.

When Retribution is being reduced to doing Twitter feuds with Bow Wow, it's not hard to accomplish being better than them.

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FF7 Remake

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I'll have to look, but this is another moment where the top 2 nominated titles were in the finals. Other years it's happened...

1996 - Mario 64 vs Mario RPG
1997 - FF7 vs Symphony of the Night
2000 - Pokmon GSC vs FF9
2001 - FFX vs Melee
2002 - Metroid Prime vs Kingdom Hearts
2004 - Snake Water vs Half-Life 2
2005 - RE4 vs DMC3
2009 - Uncharted 2 vs Arkham Asylum
2010 - Galaxy 2 vs Mass Effect 2
2012 - Borderlands 2 vs Xenoblade Chronicles
2013 - Link Between Worlds vs Last of Us
2018 - Smash Ultimate vs God of War
2020 - FF7 Remake vs Hades

ALSO another fun fact, the N64 is the only mainline Nintendo console to not have a GotY winner in these tournaments.

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Fuck, meant to vote Age of Extinction. Movie was straight ass and felt 4 hours long

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Yesterday was never in question as Hades puts away Tom Nook and crew, advancing to tonight's final battle!

Final Fantasy VII Remake
vs
Hades

FF7's had an easy run to the championship, but Hades has looked good in all its wins too! It all comes down to this!

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Dire Straits - Money for Nothing
Barenaked Ladies - If I Had $1,000,000

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Johnbobb posted...

Notorious BIG - Juicy

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Ori, you did well. Yesterday's match was never up for debate as FF7 Remake built a strong lead and never let off the gas pedal. With a final score of 29-13, VII Remake becomes the first FF since X to appear in the championship match!

As for Ori, the sequel fared much better than the first. Blind Forest was upset in round 2 to Keep Talking and No One Explodes, so a semifinal loss is nothing to be ashamed of.

Official Bracket
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
vs
Hades

AC has had a fairly easy time getting here, while Hades had the one huge scare with Yakuza. The winner is set up for a match with Cloud and crew tomorrow!

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@ yesterday's results.

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Cold - Stupid Girl
Blink 182 - What's My Age Again?

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Ori and the Will of the Wisps

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Tony Hawk gave a very respectable effort against Hades, but 40% was the best he could hope for. Hades advances to the Final Four with an 18-12 victory and faces Animal Crossing soon!

Official Bracket
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Final Fantasy VII Remake
vs
Ori and the Will of the Wisps

FF7 Remake completed an easy path to the semifinals, while Ori had tough competition from the likes of Crash 4 and Doom Eternal. Now one of these highly acclaimed titles will represent half of the 2020 championship!

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Up

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scarletspeed7 posted...

https://twitter.com/dustinrhodes/status/1358635633007353859

Amen to that. Plus, dude's 76, but with all the wrestling he did, Funk might as well be 96.

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Fuck. Terry Funk might not make it out of 2021. He announced he was no longer signing autographs due to his failing health and Dustin Rhodes announced today that Funk was in serious pain.

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Jay-Z - Young Forever
Billy Joel - Only the Good Die Young

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The Last of Us Part II jumped off to a 2-0 lead yesterday...

...and it was all downhill from there. Next thing we know, Animal Crossing gets 10 of the next 11 votes and was never in danger of losing, despite an attempted comeback in the second half of the match. New Horizons becomes the first Animal Crossing title to reach the Final Four with a 14-9 victory. The Last of Us Part II fails to match its predecessor's championship loss in 2013.

Official Bracket
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Hades
vs
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2

In the third round, this division became the most interesting all of a sudden as Hades held off Yakuza: Like a Dragon by a single vote, while Tony Hawk needed overtime to escape Fall Guys by 2 votes. The winner fills the last spot in the Final Four and wins a date with Animal Crossing in roughly 48 hours!

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Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World
The Cars - You Might Think

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Doom Eternal nearly erased a 10-2 deficit, but could hardly overcome the Wisps themselves. Ori 2 advances for a big date with Final Fantasy VII Remake in the Final Four with a close 14-12 victory.

Official Bracket
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
vs
The Last of Us Part II

Animal Crossing made easy work out of Miles Morales, while Last of Us 2 nearly avoided getting upset by Bloodstained. The third Final Four slot gets determined today!

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RETRIBUTION wins the 21st Wrestlecrap ****er of the Year award. Best part from the induction...

Two days later was Black Friday, the start of Christmas shopping in the United States. On WWE Shop, fans could buy official RETRIBUTION merchandise to help, in their words, fund the movement. Yet only a small percentage of the money made from sales would actually go to the RETRIBUTION members; the rest would go to WWE, which, as I understand, was the organization they were supposed to be destroying from within.

But what else was RETRIBUTION to do to earn money? Stream on Twitch? Run an OnlyFans? No, WWE would tolerate arson and felonious assault, but they drew the line at independent sources of income.

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SmackDown in a nutshell...

- Dominick beats Corbin
- Roode and Ziggler beat Gable and Otis
- Cesaro makes Bryan tap, the two shake hands afterwards
- Bayley defeats Riott
- Big E retains against Crews and Zayn
- Bianca contemplates choosing Sasha more than Asuka; her promo with Sasha's interrupted by Reginald who gets beat up by Bianca.
- Reigns demands Edge acknowledges him as the main event of Wrestlemania and to pick him, until Owens appears and hits a stunner. Edge leaves while we prepare for round 4 of Reigns vs Owens

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Depeche Mode - Policy of Truth

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Ori 2

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At the very least, Paper Mario: The Origami King managed to avoid getting doubled by Final Fantasy VII Remake. FF7R was never in any jeopardy yesterday as it cruises to the Final Four with a 23-12 victory, awaiting the winner of today's match!

Official Bracket
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Doom Eternal
vs
Ori and the Will of the Wisps

Doom Eternal made easy work out of the latest Hyrule Warriors, while Ori 2 finally had a tough challenge, beating Crash Bandicoot 4 by a single vote. A highly anticipated matchup between two highly praised 2020 sequels!

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FF7 Remake

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The OT session between Tony Hawk and Fall Guys was just as intense as the first day, this time with neither game getting a lead greater than three votes! Fall Guys appeared to nearly run away at an 11-8 lead, but the next set of votes would be for Tony Hawk to prevent such a victory from happening. After Tony Hawk broke a 15-15 tie, it would survive long enough to get the 18-16 OT win with a final score of 31-29! Fall Guys becomes the only #2 seed not to make it to the Elite Eight and Tony Hawk 1+2 faces Hades in the next round! Also with this, THPS1+2 becomes the most successful Tony Hawk game in tournament history.

Official Bracket
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Final Fantasy VII Remake (PlayStation 4)
vs
Paper Mario: The Origami King (Nintendo Switch)

Paper Mario nearly avoided an upset from Kentucky Route Zero, while FF7 Remake made easy work out of 13 Sentinels. Origami King fights to become the 2nd Paper Mario game to reach the Final Four, while VII Remake fights to become the 8th Final Fantasy game to do so!

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Nominate Veronika Khomyn

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Billy Ocean - Get outta my dreams, Get into my Car
Queensryche - Silent Lucidity

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I had to double count again because yesterday's match was close the entire time, neither Tony Hawk or Fall Guys held a lead greater than 2 votes. The end result?

Tony Hawk
Zero Signal
MrSmartGuy
SwiftyDC
firefdr
KommunistKoala
Shonen_Bat
KCF
Icon
Cave Dweller
Axl Rose 85
Betrayed Tangy
MZero
WavedFan

Fall Guys
Arti
SpikeSetsFire
Great Paul
Snake555
PrinceKaro
Cody11533
Lightning Strikes
Johnbobb
Paratroopa
Handsome Boy 2012
Whiskey Nick
hbthebattle
UF8

A TIE at 13 a piece! We head into OVERTIME to end round 3 with a bang!

Official Bracket
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OVERTIME MATCH
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2
vs
Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout

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Lars Sullivan's final record on the main roster: 4-0

Wins against Lucha House Party (twice, one of them by DQ), Jeff Hardy, and Shorty G

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RikkuAlmighty posted...

the entirety of the tales series

Vesperia, Symphonia, Berseria, and possibly even Abyss are all better than FF13

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Less than 2 hours to go!

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REM - Daysleeper

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Tom Waits - I Hope That I Don't Fall in Love With You
Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster

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With my numbers updated, here's the current top ten ppv main event winners, followed by top ten ppv main event appearances after Royal Rumble

PPV Main Event Wins
1) Cena - 37
2) HHH - 34
3) Undertaker - 26
4) Austin - 20
4) Lesnar - 20
6) HBK - 19
7) Hogan - 18
7) Orton - 18
9) Rock - 16
10) Reigns - 15
Edge's win on Sunday was his 10th ppv main event victory, putting him in a 3-way tie for 13th with Bret Hart and Kurt Angle

PPV Main Event Appearances
1) Undertaker - 73
2) Cena - 71
3) HHH - 70
4) Orton - 57
5) HBK - 50
6) Austin - 41
7) Kane - 39
8) Lesnar - 36
9) Rock - 34
10) Reigns - 32
Kane's inching closer and closer to the Rattlesnake as the Rumble was his first main event since Crown Jewel 2018. Orton's comfortably in 4th, but still needs a full year of closing out ppvs if he wants to match Hunter!

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Tony Hawk 1+2

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Yesterday's match was truly something else. Hades went in as the clear favorite, all the way to the point where a few users were casting pity votes for Yakuza: Like a Dragon.

It soon became clear that Yakuza was not here to play around and those pity votes weren't so much pity after all. Like a Dragon took a commanding lead up to 14-11, but the final four votes in the 24 hour time period were all in favor of Hades, giving the SuperGiant indie sensation a close 15-14 escape! Hats off to Like a Dragon for giving us the best performance any Yakuza game has given us.

For Hades
Cody11533
Lightning Strikes
Mythiot
Big Bob
Mac Arrowny
Shonen_Bat
WavedFan
the3l3fty
Paratroopa
KommunistKoala
ZeroSignal620
KCF
MikeTavish
UberPyro
firefdr

For Yakuza
colliding
Stifled
Murphiroth
SwiftyDC
Aecioo
paperwarior
MoogleKupo
iiicon
KamekGuy
Axl Rose 85
Suprak
HBJDubs
FFD
MZero

I had to double count just to be sure.

Official Bracket
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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2
vs
Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout

Both of these games haven't broke a sweat getting this far, putting the boots to Spongebob, Watch Dogs, Murder House, and Paradise Killer in convincing fashion. One of these games gets Hades in four days, but who will it be?

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Jakyl25 posted...

205 Live ceased being main roster when they moved the title to NXT

Anyway it was Dana Brooke as soon as Fandango left the main roster to go to NXT

Fair enough. And not surprised about Dana.

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Best part was Edge not giving af, probably because he saw shit like that on the regular with Gangrel 22 years ago.

Also while it's on my mind Jakyl, when Fandango won a tag title, the new longest employed wrestler without gold was Gran Metallik. However, he snatched up the 24/7 belt awhile back for less than 30 seconds.

Any idea who's next? Unless I'm missing someone, it's possibly Lars Sullivan. Or someone from 205 Live

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I was hoping they could have worked out anything interesting in the match but it was just a complete dud.

That's been most of Goldberg's matches since he returned in 2016. Only one match of his has gone over 5 minutes, his disaster with the Undertaker.

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