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Kirby
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Kirby: Star Allies (2018)

Kirby, the King of the Sore Thumb Factor, has been a contest fixture in 2002 when he lost to Jill and was seen as filler fodder. In fact, let's look at a list of all the characters Kirby has lost to:

2002: Jill
2003: Alucard
2004: Squall
2005: Bowser
2006: Luigi
2007: L-Block, Kratos
2008: Solid Snake, Cloud
2010: Sonic
2013: Sephiroth

Now a list of Kirby's victims:

2003: Ramza
2004: Kain
2005: Cecil, Tidus
2006: Prince of Persia
2007: Laharl, Nathan Hale, Donkey Kong
2008: Jinjo, Master Chief, Raiden, Dante, Leon Kennedy, Sonic, Sephiroth
2010: Rikku, GLaDOS, Vivi
2013: Terra, Peach, Elizabeth, Crash, Big Boss

I'm spelling all this out to illustrate how Kirby has had the most consistent growth from 2002 to 2013. He's this big pink snowball and in the past five years he's probably become even more powerful based just on the love this industry and its fans give him. Is Kirby an elite? Probably not, but at this point he's probably as strong as he could ever be. We are at the theoretical Pink Ceiling.

There was a Kirby pop-up cafe in Japan last year and it was so busy that you had to make reservations months in advance. People flew into Japan to eat there. Bitches love Kirby.

Although in 2008 this really sad video surfaced:



so there's that
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Bomberman
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Super Bomberman R (2017)

Bomberman got destroyed by Tails in his last contest appearance. Do I need to type more? I guess I will type more. Is WhatPulse still a thing?

Bomberman has 83 game appearances apparently, he's pretty well known even on a casual level, although that's a double-edged sword. While Bomberman has games where he is a "character," he's really more of a low-level gaming icon, and as we've seen with Scorpion, Lara Croft and Pac-Man, that doesn't equate to strength.

He did manage to eek out a minor victory of Crash in 2007, but in that same match they both got beaten by Phoenix-fuckin'-Wright. Crash was probably at his lowest in 2007 and the recent revisiting on his golden years would easily put him over Bomberman today. Phoenix Wright might still be able to beat both just because he has actual loyal fans that would come out for him.

Kane
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight (2010)

Here's a guy, err, TV, who we only remember for being a guy in a TV who got almost quadrupled by Bomberman.

Are there any FMV characters that would do well on this site? Maybe someone from Wing Commander? Wasn't Mark Hamill in that game? I think there's like... A Lion Man in there somewhere. Did anyone ever use Live Action Zelda from the CD-i game in a match pic?

I want a contest that's just a bunch of losers from 2002 and Tanner and Chester and Jay Solano and Spring Breeze Dancin'. Kane might actually be at the bottom of that barrel. How many C&C fans are left on this site? How many C&C fans are left period?

Let's get Nuclear Gandhi into this bitch.

Jill Valentine
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Resident Evil Revelations 2/Collection (2015/17), Project X Zone 2 (2015)

I don't wanna cross over this topic with my waifu rating one, but Jill is a 10/10 bae. Gimme that blue tube top in an unusually hot September.

Jill is ALWAYS entertaining in these contests, she's part icon, part actual character, but not to the extent that she's a powerhouse, but to the point where she probably will never drop too far from where she is.

You never know what to expect from Jill. One year she's getting wrecked by Kratos, and just a few years later she manages to just barely secure a victory over him. Does that mean Jill gained or Kratos fell?

Well, Jill hadn't had much in the way of games in 2013, Revelations 2 was far off, so her last major appearances were in UMvC3 and RE5, which was released in 2009. She was a way different character in both of those games, too, so I believe her victory over Kratos is more of a testament to her strong and unwavering fanbase that will stay loyal to Jill, Leon and RE until the bitter end.
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hey it's me Zen and I'm supposed to take my girlfriend for Indian food but she's taking forever so I'm going to try to speed run a bunch of these

Max Payne
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Max Payne 3 (2012)

I can't believe MP3 was so long ago, I remember playing it all night and... not really enjoying it that much. It was alright I guess. Recently the girlfriend was in Forever 21 and I wandered into the ever-shrinking men's section and saw a loud tropical shirt that reminded me of Max Payne's shirt in MP3. I bought that shirt.

That insignificant story is the most relevant Max Payne has been since MP3. In 2013 he managed to slip into the crowded field and he lost to Guybrush Threepwood, proving he had no real established fanbase on this site. We won't be seeing him again and if we do again he'd probably do worse

Dirk the Daring
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Dragon's Lair Trilogy (2010)

I remember there being a reboot in the works for Dragon's Lair so I looked it up:

On October 26, 2015, Bluth and Goldman started a Kickstarter campaign to create a teaser for an animated feature-length Dragon's Lair prequel film, their first feature film since Titan A.E. The Kickstarter funding was canceled when not enough funds were made close to the deadline, but an Indiegogo page for the project was created in its place. On December 14, 2015, the Indiegogo campaign reached its goal of $250,000 to produce a teaser, 14 days after the campaign launched, and got more than twice the budget on January 16, 2016.

so I guess Dragon's Lair's fanbase is in some kind of shambles if Don-freakin'-Bluth had to try twice to get $250,000. Meanwhile SWERY just has to ask nicely and people will throw him at least that much to another failed campaign twice: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/476090608/the-good-life

Yeah Dirk got tripled by Max Payne, it's not happening again for this guy. I don't even know what constitutes "happening" for someone like Dirk the Daring. If he were to get rallied into a contest again he'd be bottom 3 of the X-Stats, guaranteed.

ok my girlfriend is done I think, I asked her if she had anything to say about Dirk the Daring and she said "who?"
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swirIdude posted...

There are 71 new posts in the topic you are tracking, "Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1278"

New contest?!?!

*checks*

Zenalysis! Almost as good!

Thanks I have no idea what Im talking about but I miss contests

Please Bacon

Please
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LeonhartFour posted...

friendly reminder that people were legitimately picking Kefka and Magus to win the entire contest in 2003

i remember people thinking ganondorf and bowser would do better than link and mario because they were "cooler" and "everyone likes the villains more"

what a time to be alive
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Scorpion
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Mortal Kombat XL (2016)

Finally, a fighting game character that's kind of worth something

People like Scorpion but not as much as Sub-Zero. Subby is more of a "character" than Scorpion. Scorps is more of an icon, people don't have much loyalty to him unless they are die-hard MK fans, and how many of those are there?

Scorpion notably was in 29th place in the vote-in for 2010 where the top 28 made it into the bracket. He beat Gordon by a bit in round 1 of 2008 but in round 2 he finished behind Gordon and beat Falco, but Falco placed above him in the 2010 vote-in, so it's fair to say his strength is inconsistent and highly dependent on if people actually care about the others in a match

MK has seen some kind of a light resurgence since 2013, Mortal Kombat XL is seen as a "real" fighting game, even more so than MK9. That doesn't do much for Scorpion, though, the dude is pretty well known across the board, and unless there's some kind of God of War 2018 Scorpion-centric game, I doubt he's going to do any better than he did in 2013.

Kazuya
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Tekken 7 (2017)

you can probably guess what I'm going to say here

At least Tekken and to some extent SoulCalibur are somewhat popular on GameFAQs. They don't have massive fanbases but they're bigger than the KOF and BlazBlue fanbases I think. Heihachi would probably do best in a contest based on his exposure but I don't think he'd pull in a ton more votes.

If Kazuya got into a contest today he'd probably do a tiny bit better, but that isn't saying much. Jin was in a contest and if you compare their performances, Jin would almost double Kazuya aaaaand I am now out of things to talk about
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LeonhartFour posted...

ZenOfThunder posted...

Pac-Man is good to have in contests but I'd be shocked if he would be able to even beat Kefka again.

I mean he didn't beat Kefka in the first place

oh whoops

all i remember is laughing at Lettuce Kefka

Team Rocket Elite posted...

I believe 2k2 didn't have a nomination phase. CJayC might have gotten some feedback from CE for the bracket but I don't really remember.

i wonder if anyone from CE who was around then is around now, would be great to have some firsthand accounts of the characters suggested. it would be a cool time capsule
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Kyo Kusanagi
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: King of Fighters XIV (2016)

Kyo has one victory in contests and it's over Abe, another character who never returned. Maybe they're both potential Noble Nine breakers and we just don't know it.

Pac-Man barely managed to double Kyo, which says more about Pac-Man than it does about Kyo. Kyo is on and off the KOF "mascot" but I'd argue Terry or Geese are more popular men and Mai would be the most popular KOF character by far. Has anyone tried a Mai nomination rally?

in conclusion nobody on this site cares about Kyo and he's probably gotten weaker since 2002

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ok i gotta go now i'll do more tomorrow
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Pac-Man
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Pac-Man Championship Edition 2 (2016), Namco Museum (2017)

I've been talking a lot recently about "Pac-Man Fever" and how contracting it means that people care about you less, so you can probably know what to expect here

Everyone knows Pac-Man. Nobody cares about Pac-Man as a character. Smash 4 may have helped him out a little, but I don't think all his other little appearances and compilations and movie roles (Pixels and Wreck-It Ralph again) do anything to make him more universal than he already is

Pac-Man is good to have in contests but I'd be shocked if he would be able to even beat Kefka again. This is the dude that couldn't beat Midna and I'm pretty sure he still wouldn't be able to, the hype of him being in a Smash game has kind of died down

Goemon
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Ganbare Goemon: Toukai Douchuu Ooedo Tengurigaeshi no Maki (2005)

Goemon is a dead franchise, Cool Breeze Dancin' got doubled by Caim and almost got beat by Chester, the character that was meant to be the biggest loser in contest history

Is there nostalgia for the Goemon franchise? It has a few outspoken fans but I see it brought up less and less. He was a 16 seed in 2002 and hasn't appeared since, so if his fanbase can't even rally him into the fodder-ridden CBIX, how would he do now in 2018? Probably not well. It's hard to imagine fodder this weak becoming weaker but with Goemon I can't picture it any other way.

Abe
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Oddworld: New 'N' Tasty (2014)

Abe lost to Kyo Kusanagi in his one appearance 16 years ago

Abe probably just got in becomes the nom period was right after Munch's Odyssey which was one of three games on the OG Xbox

Since then all Abe has had was a remaster of his first game. Stranger's Wrath is a cult classic but it isn't about Abe, so it doesn't help him much

New n Tasty must have sold well enough because apparently a sequel is coming (Oddworld: Soulstorm) supposedly this year, but I think it's in development hell. If that game comes out and is a smash hit during the nom period maybe we'll see Abe back as a 16 seed or something, but even that is a longshot

A fun question now is "Can Abe beat Kyo in 2018?"

The only real answer is "who cares"
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Snake5555555555 posted...

Yuna (Final Fantasy X)
https://pre00.deviantart.net/5282/th/pre/f/2016/257/1/8/ffx___yuna_by_thetakemi-dahmlhz.png

when I was younger I didn't care much for Yuna, I thought Rikku was cute and Lulu was hot (boobs), but now that I'm older I don't find Rikku as appealing (she really comes off as like... 13) and Lulu is a bit 2 edgy for me

Yuna as a character has really grown on me, and I'm more of a fan of her design now, I think it's classy by still kind of sexy in a weird way. Too bad she ended up with that f*ccboi Tidus, though.

I am NOT a fan of her FFX-2 design, though, or where her character went. I'm not a fan of much about FFX-2 although I don't hate it as much as my younger self.

FFX Yuna: 9/10
FFX-2 Yuna: 4/10
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Fiona Belli (Haunting Ground)
http://images.wikia.com/clocktower/images/e/ef/FionaBelli.PNG

This might be THE High School Zen special, i think i just liked her for the boob physics though

now that i'm older I still like her but my memories are so distant that I can't even remember much about Haunting Ground. I think I sold my copy like an idiot. Did it ever get re-released?

https://ebay.to/2r0aFOB

ah shit

never sell your games kids

8/10

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Aerie (Baldur's Gate)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/baldursgategame/images/9/94/Aerie_Portrait_BG2.png/revision/latest?cb=20130515161553

i had this write-up done but apparently I didn't post it I guess

there was a baldur's gate comic released under the D&D brand today, i was surprised to see it. My shop got in one whole copy. It's got Minsc on the cover and everything! It's good to see

I didn't play much BG and BGII but I like Aerie, i always thought her eyes were creepy in her key art, but she looks great in her fan art

I'm super into Dark Elves in Elder Scrolls () and some other elves but it's not always a 100% hit for me, i'd give Aerie a solid 7 tho based on what i've seen and what i've played, i never beat the game though and saw how things ended up for her
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Akira Yuki
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Project X Zone (2015), Dead or Alive 5 Last Round (2015)

how can somebody get quadrupled by Knuckles and not be last place in the X-Stats? 2002 was full of some real winners

I think I'm pretty familiar with games and contests and characters but when I saw Akira I just went "who" and had to actually click on him to get a picture. I don't know if there's any other characters in contest history where that would happen but I guess we'll see

yeah Virtua Fighter is kinda dead, this dude was a bonus DLC character for DOA5 LR which I think is free but there are so many better fighting games and characters that could appear over him. He's probably even weaker than he was before

Solid Snake
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Metal Gear Solid: The Legacy Collection 1987-2012 (2013)

what can I say about Solid Snake?

This guy was at peak strength in 2013. He managed to basically take 2013 with relative ease and put up respectable numbers against Link himself in a bonus poll.

So there's no doubt he's strong, but in 5 years, has Konami managed to damage the MGS brand enough to weaken Snake himself? What about MGSV? People are pretty hot and cold with that one, as highlighted by Survive's reception

Will Snake reserve some kind of pity boost? Has Konami's mistreatment of Kojima turned Snake into a martyr? Does such a thing exist? with a franchise like MGS, anything might be possible

At this point Snake is in the hall of gaming greats, I don't think anyone is going to forget him anytime soon. If the bracket placement is good he can still probably take a contest (assuming Link isn't involved). I'd like to see a modern Cloud vs. Snake just to see how much his strength has fluctuated. He can still probably take down Sephiroth right now.

Squall
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Dissidia Final Fantasy NT (2018)

I don't think we ever emphasize the Squall x Snake rivalry in these contests, mainly because Snake punks Squall every single time. But each time the punking becomes less and less.

Perhaps it's because the hate for FFVIII becomes less and less over time? I see a lot less hate for the game lately, it seemed to be the cool thing to do when we were all dumb high schoolers.

But has Squall continued to grow? Square keeps him relevant with appearances in side games and KH, but he hasn't had a starring role. Here's a question: In a few years if FFVII's remake comes out and sells like hotcakes (it will), will Square bother investing the money into a remake of VIII? Would they go back and do VI instead?

Squall will stay semi-relevant as long as Final Fantasy is still a big franchise, but when is his next big push? Probably never, which is sad. I think that has some advantages, though. Squall will slowly become more and more deified as the people who hate FFVIII stop caring and the people who love FFVIII keep screaming from the heavens how much they love Squall and how they're all from the same orphanage.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Lucina (Fire Emblem)
https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/7775666.jpg
http://78.media.tumblr.com/1cd97f5c9ceaeff4bfdf20eb0d6e4811/tumblr_n8q0uovlJs1qzp9weo4_500.gif

i think i did lucina already, so i am going to do Tharja

12/10

one time i googled Tharja and went deep into the internet and found some weird fetish fanfics, it actually killed my view of Tharja for a while. i guess when you are a goth magic girl it invites people to take... creative liberties with those characters.

i may be a sick freak who rates fictional women (and sometimes men) on an obscure gamefaqs message board but even i have limits

MrSmartGuy posted...

Otome from Devil Survivor 2
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/1/1e/Otome.png/revision/latest?cb=20150920090958

i audibly let out a "shit" when the picture loaded so I guess that's good, I need to actually play Devil Survivor 2 at some point

9/10

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Lady (DMC)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/devilmaycry/images/3/3e/Lady_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080218174626

this is another High School Zen special, i had such a damn crush on Lady back in the day. I was lobbying for her to be in MvC3, she is way more bae than Trish

10/10 classic, aged like a fine wine in DMC4

Snake5555555555 posted...

Heather Mason (Silent Hill 3)
https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/6/62890/1531184-heather.jpg

alright this sounds weird but let me explain my thinking here:

for most of these high school girls I have a weird disconnect because they're in animes and whatever, a lot of them i just look the other way. i wouldn't consider any real life high school girls waifu material.

but with heather she actually appears like and acts like a real life high school girl, probably because silent hill 3 was actually written and acted well. it makes me feel weird even rating her, part of the fun of this topic is that i'm rating weird anime girls in ridiculous outfits. i feel like heather mason is crossing some kind of line

she is great tho/10

DeathChicken posted...

Akane Kurashiki - Zero Escape

i never beat this game! i started playing it when i was in college and it actually distracted me in lecture hall so I put it aside and never went back. she seemed alright, i assume there's a big twist involving her. i remember there was some good waifu material in this game and VLR but I don't remember much of it now

6/10 i guess, i am scared to google her for more pictures out of fear of spoilers
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SEGA went out of their way to say that Sonic Mania is their best selling Sonic game in 15 years

https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/sonic-mania-is-the-highest-rated-sonic-game-in-15-years-w498303

But i agree with KP that this site is full of stubborn sonic-haters
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Chie 4 Lyfe

11/10 meat waifu
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LeonhartFour posted...

ZenOfThunder posted...

she's supposed to be half-asian or something but I never got that from a lot of her art

she's supposed to have facial features that are Asian while still having a Caucasian appearance

I think she's very good-looking but to each their own

next up is Yukiko Amagi (Persona 4)

worst waifu in the game, i have tried twice to do a Yukiko run and I can never bring myself to do it

so boring but laugh saves her from being irredeemable

3/10
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i think sonic's current strength is going to be super debated because of Mania and Forces both being released so closely, there's no telling how the dust will settle on that one

you're right tho, if sonic gets a classic pic he'll do WAY better. we are currently in this age of nostalgia where 90s characters are getting remakes and reboots and remasters and people are just guzzling it all down
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LeonhartFour posted...

Aya Brea (Parasite Eve)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/parasiteeve/images/9/9e/Aya_Art.png

not sure what pic to post because she has a lot of good ones but let's just go with this one

i never really got the appeal, like 3/10. nothing worse for Zen than "blonde chick," she's supposed to be half-asian or something but I never got that from a lot of her art

her game is good tho

DeathChicken posted...

Elizabeth - Bioshock: Infinite

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/017/796/large/mirco-cabbia-elizabeth-end-rido-2-4.jpg?1468538635

i have really mixed feelings about Elizabeth, she's cool and all but I'm really sour on BioShock Infinite. I think it would have helped if she were a bit more awkward and not just full of whimsy and dancing and shit. she was stuck in a torture tower for her entire 20 year life, why is she so social? it always struck me as weird. it was probably for marketing purposes

i guess 7/10 based mainly on design, she could have been an easy 10 tho
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Sonic Mania + Sonic Mania Adventures plus the great new IDW comic should help Sonic and friends but at the same time Sonic Forces was aaaaaaass

SEGA recently confirmed that the Classic and Modern Sonic games are different universes and different characters, retconning Generations. Technically we could nom Classic Sonic into a contest now I guess but Bacon probably wouldn't like it.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I've only been doing anime girls so far so maybe I should switch to video games

let's start with a classic

Tifa Lockhart (Final Fantasy VII)

Tifa is another "vintage waifu" that young Zen was crazy about but old man Zen is kind of over. I am a fan of the hoo-hahs but I guess she's just kind of played out after all this time. I really didn't like her AC/KH design either

5/10
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Aeris
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call (2014)

all i think about when it comes to Aeris is *spoilers*.com, what a golden age for this board. also how every single time she has a match people slither out from their sticky nerd holes with fire in their eyes and blood running from the corner of their mouths, demanding that the baka gaijin responsible for these internet popularity polls show himself and explain why he used the inferior and incorrect "aeris" over "aerith"

Aeristh is some kind of low-key OG meme, it even showed up in the background of Wreck-It Ralph really quick. She's not Tifa or Vincent strong but she isn't Barret weak. She's probably the weakest of the FFVII midcarders before they dip down into low-midcarder territory.

With the FFVII remake on the horizon she'll probably end up getting a boost but I doubt she'll have dropped significantly.

Gordon Freeman
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Hunt Down the Freeman (2018)

Gordon Freeman is dead like GFNW. Is Gordon the new Duke Nukem? I can already imagine that whenever there's a "3" in his votals that the memes will run freely across the board.

Luckily Gordon's new level of meme-itude keeps him relevant when Gaben won't. He probably ain't gaining but he'll be sticking around for a while.

Tina Armstrong
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: whatever that shit I posted on Kasumi's is

See: Kasumi

but worse

are there any FPS protags she could beat?

Knuckles
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Sonic Forces (2017), Sonic Mania (2017)

the echidna, the myth, the legend.

Knuckles is the safest character in the Sonic franchise. Even people who dump on Sonic love Knuckles. That universal love and respect lead him to upsetting Magus in what is indisputably the luckiest pick I ever made in one of these contests.

Knuckles has that dumb "do you know de wey" meme and if anyone somehow forgot Knuckles was a thing they sure as hell remember now. Does that help him or hurt him? As annoying as those memes were, I am sticking to my guns here: People just love Knuckles.

If anything I believe he would have gotten stronger in the past 5 years. Not much, but a little. The general meme-i-ness of the current internet is good for Sonic characters in general. Except Tails.
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hello it's me, zen, i'm back, and i'm wearing my old GameFAQs t-shirt and watching a Strong Bad Email playlist. Talking about the 2002 character battle. at a ripe 26 (almost 27) years old in the year of our lord 2018. i wouldnt have it any other way

Dante
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite (2017), Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition (2015), DmC: Devil May Cry (2013)

There's constant rumors of Devil May Cry 5, I believe some large DMC fan community came together recently saying that they KNOW DMC5 is coming and the announcement has been pushed back multiple times and they are super pissed. Also apparently it'll be at E3 this year?

If that announcement is right, it might help make Dante a little more relevant again. he has his MvC appearances, but Infinite currently has a record negative three people playing it right now, and the DMC4 SE was good but too long ago to keep Dante hot.

But he's gotta be better than he was in 2013. That contest was fresh after the release of DmC, which might have been the most hated game on the site at that very moment. I don't blame him for getting punked by a cartoon turtle.

Could Dante beat Squirtle without the DmC anti-vote? Maybe not right now. Pokemon is on the rise and Dante is stale, but he'd probably put up significantly better numbers, and he would definitely be closer to Squirtle than he was to Zidane this time around. Let's see if the rumors are true and we get a DmC5 announcement around the time of the contest to start getting Dante back to form.

Q*Bert
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: Q*Bert (PS4 Port)(2015)

Q*Bert somehow was in two major motion pictures within the span of three years. You got Wreck-It Ralph where he was some kind of comic relief supporting character and you got Adam Sandler's Pixels where he is some kind of comic relief supporting character where in the end he turns into a beautiful woman and Josh Gad has sex with him.

I really wish I was making that last part up.

Regardless, Q*Bert is somehow more relevant than ever, but that doesn't translate into renewed contest strength. Q*Bert is like a turbo-Pac-Man, and he more has a case of "Pac-Man Chlamydia" than "Pac-Man Fever." He probably got it from Josh Gad.

Who is going to vote for Q*Bert over ANYONE else? He might be able to beat... Chop Chop Master Onion. If the Bert were to get back into a contest somehow he'd have to get super lucky and match up with some kind of generic fighting game character like Rock form Soulcalibur or something.

Kasumi
Last Contest: 2006
Last Game: Dead or Alive Xtreme: Venus Vacation (2017)

what the hell is "Dead or Alive Xtreme: Venus Vacation (2017)" ??? I Googled it and didn't get much info. It doesn't even have a page on the DOA Wiki. It looks like a regular DOA volleyball game but maybe it's an app or something? You know what, I don't care

Nobody else cares either, her B8 Wiki page talks more about Tina Armstrong's upset of Gordon that Kasumi herself. I think Ayane would be a little stronger than Kasumi, she's in the Ninja Gaiden games and seems to be more of a... "character"

Kasumi probably has a pretty fixed level of strength, you can figure out just by looking at her which game she's from, and that game has its fans, and those fans are unquestionably loyal to the jubblies.

i forgot she was in 2006, that female half of the bracket was such a waste. With Chun-Li in the contests, why would you ever need someone from DOA?
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FL81 posted...

Anna Nishikinomiya (Shimoneta)


waifu 4 laifu forever and always

oh man I am into this, easily a 9/10 without knowing more

KamikazePotato posted...

Rem (Re:Zero)

https://data.whicdn.com/images/258719024/original.gif

https://tinyurl.com/y84nrpsg

i am actually not a fan of one covered eye. I have no idea why. I feel like they are hiding something. 6/10

LeonhartFour posted...

Yuki Nagato (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)



Nagato isn't really "waifu" material for me personally

I just think she's an awesome character

High School Zen was all about Yuki, but now she's less in the waifu zone and more in the "character i like and think is cool" zone, so I don't know where to rank her. 7/10?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Quiet from MGS5: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/MGSV-GZ-3D-Capture-Stefanie-Joosten-2.jpg

this one is weird for me because i fucking love the weird eccentricities of quiet even though i think they're super dumb. the whole lounging around in the cell she can leave any time and flopping around like a fish in the rain. also her dumb outfit because... photosynthesis. it's awful. it's great. 10/10
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cant wait for that live action sonic movie



*crosses fingers*
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Guybrush
Last Contest: 2008
Last Game: Tales of Monkey Island (2009), Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II (2010)

Guybrush got punked hard by Ryo but he somehow got three contest appearances?? What? I guess it shows how dedicated LucasArts fans are on this site. CJayC has a soft spot for them, right? Maybe he's the reason to some extent.

Guybrush is less relevant the ever. LucasArts is super dead now. Who even owns the rights now? Disney? Did EA get it with Star Wars? Does Telltale still have the rights? Who cares?

Crono
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Chrono Trigger PC (2018)

talking about Crono's contest history is opening a whole can of worms, do i dare tackle it? I was only 24th place in one contest, somebody ask Ulti to write this one

so yeah the one thing that keeps a fanbase passionate and interested and together is relevant releases and new content. when's the last time Crono got that? The DS remake? People were shitting on the PC version recently for being a bad iOS port. Did anyone buy it? I don't think Square even advertised they were releasing it more than a few days out. Shows how little they care.

Crono is probably even weaker than he was in 2013. The Noble Nine is broken and the band isn't getting back together as long as Crono doesn't get some new games.

Or put Crono in Smash 5. You reading this, Sakurai? GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. ALL... 5 PEOPLE.

Simon Belmont
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate (2013)

Other than Alucard, are there any other Castlevania characters that would do well in a contest setting? Dracula did OK against... Barret and Lucina. So maybe not.

Simon did alright against Ezio once and he beat Hades, but one time he lost to Sam's Fisher pretty bad so I have no idea where his strength is. He's just "the Castlevania I guy" I think. He's cool and I love Simon but I think he's more of an "icon" than a "character" and only gets votes based on general recognizability.

Also if he gets his Judgment picture he's screwed

Castlevania is pretty much dead and unlike Alucard Simon is not as immune from age. I don't think we'll ever see Simon again.
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Lara Croft
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Rise of the Tomb Raider, Lara Croft Go (2015)

Lara Croft just had a movie! I wonder how--

As of April 19, 2018, Tomb Raider has grossed $56.4 million in the United States and Canada, and $212.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $269 million. In order to break even, the film needs to gross at least $275 million worldwide.

Ouch, I mean, that's not awful though, right? How did it do compared to the others, adjusted for inflation?

[Lara Croft: Tomb Raider] debuted at number one [domestically] with $48.2 million, giving Paramount its second-best debut and the fifth-highest debut of 2001.

[Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - The Cradle of Life] debuted in fourth place with a take of $21.8 million. The film finished with a domestic gross of $65 million.

Tomb Raider: $184,935,121
Tomb Raider 2: $89,053,068
Tomb Raider Reboot: $56,700,036

oh

are you telling me Lara Croft isn't as relevant as she was when she was a 1 seed in 2002?

well you don't need box office results to tell me that I guess

but the games sell well, right? those new games where Lara is more vulnerable and gets impaled in the face-area. the new games where she kills like 150 dudes in a row with a bow and arrow but when she first kills a deer it brings a tear to her eye.

the new games where she doesn't even raid tombs

yeah those new games

how relevant is Lara Croft now? Microsoft really pushes her games. She's always a timed exclusive or whatever, but on a site that is primarily PS4/Switch, that probably doesn't help. Her games are also really cheap and free on PS+/XBL.

but she's Lara Croft. Who cares? She barely beat Wesker in 2007, then she had her big reboot game, and she was able to barely beat Altair. The same Altair that got beaten by Duke Nukem a few years prior.

Now she has TWO big reboot games, some iOS apps that are good apparently and a movie nobody saw. She's probably stronger because at least she's relevant, I just don't think her fanbase is on GameFAQs.

Chop Chop Master Onion
Last Contest: 2002
Last Game: PaRappa the Rapper Remastered (2017)

how did Chop Chop Master Onion get into a contest exactly?

could Chop Chop Master Onion beat Bub in a modern match?

could Chop Chop Master Onion beat any Robot Master ever?

could Chop Chop Master Onion beat anyone from freaking Xenoblade?

these are the hard-hitting questions

Ryo Hazuki
Last Contest: 2004
Last Game: Project X Zone 2 (2015), Sonic & SEGA All-Star Racing Transformed (2012)

wow, look at those last two appearances. That's sad. The guy drives a forklift exclusively in the PC and Android versions of freaking Sonic & SEGA Racing 2.

You should have seen me at E3 when Shenmue III was released. I have a big party every year and have people over (like 20 peeps) and we watch E3. Most people don't play games anymore. There's just me and maybe 4 guys that actually follow games.

When they announced Shenmue III I lost it. Me and one other dude. We went insane. I don't even like Shenmue that much. It was just like... It's like Duke Nukem Forever. It was a thing. A thing you kind of knew might happen, but didn't think for serious would happen.

But it says a lot that the other 18 dudes in the room were like "what" and "who cares." Ryo Hazuki didn't do well in any of his appearances. He couldn't even triple Guybrush.

He's got a third game a recently-announced remaster of I & II on the way. That's cool. Maybe if the timing is right he can get a low seed and make an appearance for fun and get blown up just like old times.
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sorry that was poor phrasing on my part, i meant smash 5 won't be out in time for the contest
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i feel like all the guests will probs be back in Smash 5, from what little info we have we can assume it's to some extent an expanded-on port of Smash Wii U, and I'm under the further assumption that Sakurai got contracts that covered the Switch port he knew he was going to do at the time.

If Smash 5 sells like nuts you can assume Cloud will look better than ever in time for the next contest maybe (probably not)
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Cloud
Last Contest: 2013
Last Game: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (as "Lightning")(2013), Smash 4 (2014), Dissidia Final Fantasy NT (2018)

How do you measure Cloud's relevance? He's Cloud, Link's number 2. Everyone talks about how Snake would probably be able to beat him, but with the way Konami has treated MGS, how true is that? Remember when the internet's collective house got brought down when the FFVII remake and Cloud in Smash 4 got announced?

He's somehow as relevant as ever, and although he may seem significantly less invincible than before, he's still Cloud. I'd be reluctant to take Snake over him, or even Mario to some extent. I think we downplay Cloud's raw strength.

Once FFVII's remake comes out (or at least part 1 of that remake), where does Cloud go? How much power does he gain? We can assume Sony and Square will push the shit out of it, and assuming it's priced decently (i.e. it's not $60 just for the reactor part of the game), it should sell like crazy and a whole new generation will fall in love with the game along with his old fans falling back in love.

Would that boost be enough to beat Link again? Nnnnnnno. Probably not. Maybe if the remake came out the day the match happened and Link hadn't had a game in a while.

What I'm trying to say is: Don't count Cloud out. He's still got plenty left in him and plenty more to serve up in the coming years. It's all a matter of timing.

Fox
Last Contest: 2013
Last Games: Star Fox Zero (2016), Star Fox 2 (2017)

People were pretty excited about SF2 getting released with the SNES Mini, right? My roommate got one for his birthday last weekend, and even though SF64 was one of his favorite games ever, he had already forgotten it was included. In fact, nobody seemed to talk about it much after the initial news buzz died down.

Star Fox Zero was supposedly pretty mediocre, and it doesn't help that it was a Wii U game with no signs of getting a Switch port.

In 2013, Fox got dangerously close to Pokemon Trainer Blue, and he had Wolf holding him back from maybe taking the win. Does this mean Fox is strong or that Blue is weak?

Probably more of the ladder. Blue did OK, it's safe to assume he and Fox are about the same level of midcarder. But has Fox maintained that strength? Well in 2013 his most recent release was the SF64 3DS remake, which got some good success, and Smash 4 was on the horizon, but that was about it. I don't know if Zero hurt his reputation, but the release went so under the radar on a system nobody owned that it probably didn't do much. I suspect Fox is about the same level of strength as he was in 2013, maybe a tad stronger from the general surge in popularity Nintendo has had over the years. He probably won't be pulling off any crazy upsets, though.

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That's it for the first division! Can't believe I have this much to write about. Let's see how long I keep it up before I run out of time or get called out for having no idea what I'm talking about.
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Pikachu
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Game Appearance: Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon (2017)

remember when Pikachu was a 7 seed and he got quadrupled by Cloud?

that was before Pokefear

things we so simple

so peaceful

before Pokefear gripped the nation

for real though, I have NO idea what Pikachu's ceiling is. Everyone went from being too cool to like him to absolutely adoring the little rat. Nintendo and Game Freak love reminding you he's still the mascot. There was recently that movie where he spoke for a bit! Like, actually spoke! That video was everywhere for a week. Pikachu is an icon on the level of Mickey Mouse and people eat it up.

His last appearance he got beaten by Mewtwo in a 3-way with Mega Man and he barely beat Squirtle the match before, so that "Pac-Man Fever" thing I mentioned a few posts back might apply to Pikachu. People love Pikachu, but that's because they love what he represents. Once better Pokemon make an appearance, he falls apart. However, he was still able to handily beat Crono, who may have had a huge drop off in the years, but it's still nuts to think how far Pikachu has come, and how far he'll go.

I'd say he is stronger than CBIX, and once Pokemon Switch is released, he'll be a force to be reckoned with. Same with all the Pokemon. Pokefear will return and it will take no prisoners.

PaRappa
Last Contest: CBVI (2007)
Last Game: PaRappa the Rapper Remastered (2017)

Rodney Greenblat, the man responsible for PaRappa's art style, was asked about PaRappa being a playable fighter in PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale. Greenblat was happy to see Parappa return to video games, but he was not happy to see him in a violent game. "Im very happy that Parappa is making a bit of a comeback, but not so happy about him being in a weapon filled battle game. Actually the Battle Royale game is fun, and I have to do what I can to get Parappa back in the game scene. My hope is that Sony realizes the golden true potential of Parappa and asks me to design some new games. Ive learned a lot, and I think Parappa could be great again," said Greenblat.

I think the above paragraph says it all

Poor PaRappa, he couldn't beat Tommy Vercetti in 4-ways, he'd be dead nowadays. Although at one point my 13-year old cousin asked me about him before the remaster last year, but he's a huge nerdo like us so I think that's more of an anomaly

going to write a lot about cloud and fox next post
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Alucard
Lastest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 (2010)

Konami has basically killed Castlevania but I think an iOS game is coming out so there's some pity points for poor ol' Al there. At least he appears for half an episode in that dope animated Netflix series, so there's that maybe, but he looks completely different and I don't think it brought a lot of new fans to the fanbase.

Alucard has appeared in every major contest and has some great matches on his resume, I'd say he might be Team Captain of the midcarders. Always a solid performance and he'll sometimes impress by putting up good percentages on characters that should in theory kick his ass. SotN is so well respected on GameFAQs and by the gaming community as a whole that Alucard's current lack of relevance shouldn't hurt him that bad.

Tails
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Sonic Forces (2017)

Tails barely beat Viewtiful Joe in 2004, and there's not much that has happened in his favor since then. He's a ton of fun in the Sonic Boom cartoon, but CN doesn't air that at all. He saw a return to form in Lost World and Mania immediately followed by being a big blubbering baby in Sonic Forces that literally could not function without Sonic by his side. Sonic fans were super pissed that SEGA pissed away all his character development since 2002.

Tails has never and will not ever be a force in these contests. He's just not on GameFAQs' radar and even though Sonic and Knuckles see occasional spikes in popularity, Tails is just see as the 2nd player character. He's probably about the same as he was in 2013, I'm pretty sure he can still beat Bomberman

Duke Nukem
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Duke Nukem 3D Remastered (2017), Bulletstorm Remastered (2017)

Can you believe Duke Nukem was a 3 seed in 2002?

Well, Duke Nukem has a confirmed movie starring John Cena in the works, although something tells me it'll fall into development hell ala Duke Nukem Forever. I just don't see the demand, although maybe Hollywood will see Rampage doing well and push it out.

In 2007 and 2008 Duke pulled off some miracle victories and beat Gordon (only to lose to him in the next round) and Altair. He's a character that thrives on the 4-way format as he has his own dedicated fanbase and picks up lol meme votes while other characters SFF each other into oblivion.

But since then he's just done OK, he's a solid midcarder and fun to watch in multis but in 1-v-1 I can't imagine he could do much damage anymore. He already dropped a ton because DNF actually came out and it sucked ass so the memes are dead.

Gearbox also rushed out the DN3D remastered as well as swapping Duke's model into Bulletstorm and getting John St John to do some quick dub work for it, although they didn't change any of the other characters' lines so it makes no sense at all. Gearbox really doesn't know how to treat the King and it will probably show in contests. At least he's getting SOME kind of release, tho

Iori
Latest Contest Appearance: CBI (2002)
Latest Major Game Appearance: KOF XIV (2016)

Iori is more of a main character than Terry but he's not any stronger. I don't think anyone is going out of their way to support him. I don't know if he's stronger than 2002. Probably? Fighting games are having a third resurgence right now, right?

Again, it comes back to this site in particular not caring for fighting games. I think if you haven't been in MK, SF or MvC you'll just get forgotten. At least Terry was a meme here for a bit. Iori would probably do even worse today than in 2002.
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i think mario, DK, Sonic and a lot of the characters have varying degrees of "Pac-Man Fever," where they are considered beloved classics but they have a ton of crossover with literally every other franchise because EVERYONE has played Mario, DK and Sonic games, they're just more loved and relevant than Pac-Man

but if I see Ganondorf in a match with Mario hell yeah I'm voting for Ganondorf

and if I find out Vivi is close to pulling a huge upset then hell yeah I'm voting for Vivi, even though I don't care for FFIX all that much

I'm just not that loyal to Mario. I'm sure some people are but I think there are also a ton like me. Where the rabid Mario and DK fans at?
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ironically now we are so small that 4chan probably wouldn't bother

i don't think board 8 as a community is also big enough or passionate enough anymore to get "angry" to feed them and make it worth it either

like you got us nerds in these topics but eh I don't think i'd be really upset if 4chan crashed a contest cuz I expect some dumb fanbase to come in and make Tracer or Sans win anyway
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I dont think 4chan vote stuffers care about our contests much, we arent visible or corporate enough to bother with

Huge insane fanbases are another story tho
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Menji posted...

Hitagi Senjougahara

she is very cute but she does not cross my personal "adorable" threshold

6.5/10

you guys are giving me many good animes to potentially watch
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LeonhartFour posted...

Eru Chitanda - Hyouka

my heart

probably an 8/10

i am such a sucker for a classic waifu in action, more people should post gifs to secure high ratings

thanks leon you're my favorite customer
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Terry Bogard
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIII (2004)
Latest Major Game Appearance: King of Fighters XIV (2016)

Terry is a Board 8 favorite who got quadrupled by Sonic in 2004. I don't think many people know him and it's not like "AAAH YOU OKAY? BUSTAH WOLF" took off as a major meme at any point. I just don't think KOF characters have a shot at doing well in these contests, GameFAQs isn't big on fighting games outside of SF and MK. Maybe Mai would have a shot?

Yeah I dunno if Terry is the same strength because he has nowhere lower to go or if he'd be weaker, but he def ain't stronger.

Aya Brea
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: The 3rd Birthday (2010)

Do people talk about PE anymore? I feel like that fanbase is super dead. When 3 came out for the PSP nobody seemed to really give a shit, not even PE fans. Too much of a gap between 2 and 3.

I forgot she even came back in CBIX, she got dunked on by Scorpion. I don't think we'll ever be seeing her again and if we do it'll have been so long since 3 and so so so long since 2 that she'd be pretty bottom-of-the-barrel fodder

Donkey Kong
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (2014/2018 port)

Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong, he always does OK in contests, remember how he choked to the undisputed King of Chokes, Master Chief? Yeah he's a video game icon but he's Donkey Kong.

People really like Tropical Freeze, but that doesn't change the fact that he's Donkey Kong

Like, he could have a Mario Odyssey or BotW level game, but that doesn't change the fact that Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong. I can't imagine anyone all of a sudden getting this huge boner for DK as a character that gives him a major power boost. Maybe he got a little stronger? Probably not much. Who would vote for DK when there are other characters that exist? DK is still (and always will be) Donkey Kong and he's still (and always will be) a distant to other characters like Zelda and Charizard who absolutely tore him up in CBIX.

maybe he will do better cuz memes, give him an EXPAND DONG picture and see if he does better

Bub
Latest Contest Appearance: CBI (2002)
Latest Major Game Appearance: uh

is there such a thing as nostalgia for Bubble Bobble?

I think the only character Bub could beat is maybe Tanner
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alright imma do this thing to keep this topic bumped and maybe stir up some contest discussion

i'm going to go through every character in order of appearance and try to analyze if they would be stronger or weaker in a 2018 CB than their most recent CB performance

i do not claim to be an expert, this is a weird hobby for me and I was never a stat junky, I used to fire wildly and that got me 30th place in a contest once but I don't know which one. pretty proud of that big 30, that's probably where i peaked.

i also called knuckles > magus so clearly i contain some kind of untapped genius

ok here we go:

Mario
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Last Major Game Appearance: Super Mario Odyssey (2017)

It's Mario, since 2013 he's appeared on average in one million games per year. I think the question isn't "did Mario get stronger," it's "can Mario get any stronger than he already is?"

but then you remember that Mario lost to Vivi, but does that speak more for Ganondorf's popularity?

I think yes, Mario got stronger, but he still isn't like... Cloud strong. Could Mario beat Cloud now? I want to say that Odyssey helped out and that MAYBE he could pull off a 1-v-1 victory, but as soon as that FFVII remake gets some real footage Mario would be back to number #3

Servbot
Latest Contest Appearance: CBI (2002)
Last Major Game Appearance: Project X Zone (2013)

Servbot still gets play from Capcom, he's always making cameos, especially in Dead Rising games. Does that translate to combat strength?

Absolutely not, I used to play DR games in college and my friends would sometimes watch me in between classes, and almost ALL of these kids (video game majors, mind you) would just say "what's with the LEGO head?"

so yeah servbot is probably weaker than he was a decade and a half ago

Spyro
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Skylanders Imaginators (2016)

i think nothing speaks more to spyro's quality and relevance more than him going from being voiced by Elijah Wood to Justin Long

Take a look at Spyro's cutscenes in the latest Skylanders game:

well i guess those games are popular with babies, and there's a netflix series that spyro is in (I think), but do you think anyone (including dumb babies) would wanna vote for that?

this would have been pretty cut-and-dry, but now Spyro is getting the remake treatment and everyone is going to be coming out of the woodwork claiming how they used to be hardcore Spyro fans, so yeah he's probably going to be stronger than the time he struggled to do well against freaking Clementine and Reyn, but he's still probably not going to overcome Morrigan after losing to her twice

Morrigan
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite (2017)

Morrigan is a weird one, I am a HUGE Morrigan fan (#1 waifu of all time), I love Darkstalkers, but I can't say I know many people who can say the same. It's a second-string Capcom franchise that's basically dead. Capcom brought back some of the games for a compilation back when the big fighting game boom was happening but it didn't sell well. Keep in mind that Capcom released like 5 other fighting games that year. They blamed it on the weak franchise, I blame it on Crapcom

Morrigan is weirdly iconic, she somehow managed to get 33% on Mario, and she's the founder of TJF (although Tina Armstrong is the champion of it). She'll probably always stay around that strength even tho she doesn't have games of her own anymore. Capcom loves reminding people she exists, and I know B8 loves her. We should nom Felicia to see how well other Darkstalkers reps would do.
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ayyy
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this one seems obvious

props to Ryu Hayabusa tho, he's super entertaining in these contests, almost like a Frog-lite
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Link/Cloud 03, Frog/MC, the two Mario/Cronos and maybe Knux/Magus are the only ones I see being able to win the tournament
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i don't play multiplayer games at all, the only one i ever played extensively was Left 4 Dead

although I do play couch multiplayer funtime games, like I just played A Way Out with my girlfriend and it was cool

I also play Mario Party and Mario Kart because I am a human being and all human beings consume that form of media

but I do not like competitive multiplayer gaming, or even casually competitive (other than party games) which kind of begs the question: why do I keep coming back to Pokemon? Is it nostalgia? probably

to bring this back to contests: are there ANY non-story based, primarily multiplayer games that have characters that do well/would not be fodder in a contest setting? like better than... Soap and Captain Price?
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KamikazePotato posted...

2B
Nier Automata
https://pre00.deviantart.net/4ac8/th/pre/f/2017/100/2/f/nier__automata___2b__dl___update_3__by_shuubaru-db2wytq.png

SD 2B - 5/10
4K 2B - 9/10

i do really like 2B, Nier Automata is cool, she just crosses the line for me a liiiiiiittle bit design-wise. I'm not really into that type of outfit and style but I'll be damned if she doesn't have a great design outside of my personal taste
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i'll be honest

i do not think the pokemon series has evolved much since gold/silver (no pun intended)

it's the same formula with some distractions and twists

i've played every mainline game since RBY (except B&W2) and some of them felt like an obligation, i dont think i even finished B&W1

pokemon switch better change the game up
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a Mario/Crono match will win this tournament
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trdl23 posted...

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Makoto_Niijima?file=Makoto-Winter-School.jpg
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Makoto_Niijima?file=P5_Medieval_Girl%27s_burglar_outfit.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C93dgXzVoAA6RG6.jpg

Makoto Niijima

i already did makoto! 9/10

LeonhartFour posted...

I have no firm grasp on your tastes

neither do i, i blow where the wind takes me
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KamikazePotato posted...

Rate waifu then read spoiler tags

Velvet Crowe
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/09/Tumblr_ok0ubaFyML1u2lyiwo1_500.png/revision/latest?cb=20170222122126
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aselia/images/5/52/Velvet_Model_Render.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160426231518

the design of the character is really good but i don't understand the boob & midriff frame, what is up with that? like a 7/10

KamikazePotato posted...

She's a really good character but personally I think her outfit is dumb as hell

oh ok yeah boob frames should be illegal in these united states

LeonhartFour posted...

Next up: Chizuru Hishiro (ReLIFE)

oh shit this is my type of waifu

9/10 based on that image, when i google her i get mixed emotions tho. maybe i should watch ReLIFE
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Zylothewolf posted...

IMO MissingNo shouldn't be allowed because it's a glitch and not a character.

I mean at least the different blocks has a plot about them.

i agree with you!

but he got in, and what happened happened

Bacon sure had a flair for the dramatic
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LeonhartFour posted...

I can totally relate

well not to the opera part but to the self-conscious bachelor part

doing certain things by yourself feels socially kinda awkward at times

hit me up man i'll come with you
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