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real truth is late stage capitalism

at the end of the day what does the republican party truly embody the spirit of?
unbridled greed

meanwhile the left gets more progressive as late stage capitalism takes into effect seeing the need of greater social supports

hmm if the weather is on your side does that mean....

question is what would have happened if they hit the guy in the car?

they would have planted something on them wouldn't they?

tells her the story of darth plagueis the wise

CE actually better than twitter?

twitter must be insane

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/colorado-news/family-of- man-who-died-tackled-by-mental-crisis-team-sues-paramedic-police- officer/73-129df209-dd48-4103-b103-7618e8763711

Members of a mental health response team sent to help a man who was having a psychotic breakdown instead killed him by tackling him and leaving him handcuffed, according to a federal lawsuit filed Tuesday by the man's family.

The lawsuit over the 2022 death of Kevin Dizmang in Colorado Springs was filed against the team's paramedic and a police officer. It identifies the paramedic as the person seen taking Dizmang, 63, to the ground in body camera footage released last year by lawyers for Dizmang's family after his death was ruled a homicide and raised questions about how police handle encounters with people experiencing mental health crises.

9NEWS is not naming the officer and paramedic, because neither is facing criminal charges in the case.
Other body camera footage taken at the hospital as staff tried to save Dizmang's life shows the paramedic joking about how he relied on his high school football experience to bring Dizmang to the ground, according to the lawsuit. When someone compliments him on his good form, someone responds Well, not so much" in the footage.

The paramedic resigned from the department in June 2023, but fire department spokesperson Ashley Franco said she could not provide details about his departure because it was a personnel matter.
The officer still works for the police department but is in a different role because of his own choice, department spokesperson Ira Cronin said.

Both the fire and police departments declined to comment on the lawsuit, and neither the officer nor the paramedic could be located for comment. Someone who answered the phone at a possible telephone number for the officer hung up when contacted by The Associated Press.

The team responded after Dizmang's family reported that he was experiencing severe symptoms related to his history of PTSD and schizophrenia, with his ex-wife stating that she feared he was possibly trying to kill himself by walking into traffic on a busy street near his house, according to the lawsuit.

The body camera footage shows the officer telling Dizmang to put his hands behind his back while in the street, as others try to stop cars. The video shows Dizmang resisting attempts by the officer to put handcuffs on him before he is taken to the ground by a man dressed in red identified in the lawsuit as the paramedic.

Its hard to see what is happening, but the paramedic is shown leaning on top of Dizmangs upper body, obscuring his head, as Dizmang lies face down. The lawsuit alleges the paramedic placed him in a chokehold. Dizmang soon stops moving. After he is turned face up, others around him call on Dizmang to talk to them, but there is no response.

The lawsuit alleges the officer contributed to Dizmang's death by not telling the paramedic to stop choking Dizmang and also keeping him in handcuffs long after he became unresponsive.
According to the autopsy report, Dizmang died as the result of cardiac arrest that occurred while he was being restrained and while he was acutely intoxicated by methamphetamine and suffering from health problems such as obesity and asthma. The Jan. 6, 2023, report signed by five doctors concluded that the manner of Dizmangs death was determined to be a homicide because of the contribution of physical restraint to the cause of death.
He didnt die of natural causes. Those people who came to help him, killed him," said Harry Daniels, one of the family's lawyers.
Dizmangs daughter, Kenda James, who is a paramedic herself, said she told her mother to call 911 for help for her father and advised her to explain that he was in a mental health crisis.
Its really unfortunate that we requested help and ended up in a homicide situation. It makes us really, really feel like we should have never made a call for assistance," she said at a news conference announcing the lawsuit.
The district attorney's office found the actions of the officer and the paramedic were justified and no criminal charges were filed.

StealThisSheen posted...

I think TC just wanted to say he likes death metal more than rap, but for some reason decided to try to make it sound all profound and just utterly failed.

sounds more like he HATES rap

Rika_Furude posted...

he was lucky they didnt shoot him immediately just for reaching for the gun. If the story is true then those police were more than patient enough in this case

watch it yourself, here is the timestamp

https://www.youtube.com/live/0mFjYoHhrms?si=ZNhBagYC1PKmDgGN&t=1196

now here is a question, can a man fear for his life?

bodycam
doesn't show death
https://www.youtube.com/live/0mFjYoHhrms?si=L2kuzBA6yKS0_4dy&t=994

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article285443497.html

An Arlington officer who killed an armed driver police said failed to comply with orders during a traffic stop on Interstate 20 shot the man three times and yelled Ill kill you, according to bodycam footage Arlington police released in a news conference Tuesday. The Arlington motorcycle cop, whose name has not be released pending criminal and internal affairs investigations by the department, pulled over 49-year-old Sean McKay on Thursday afternoon on I-20 near Green Oaks Boulevard for driving erratically, police say. McKay had a criminal history, including a capital murder charge, weapon violations, and drug charges, according to Arlington Police Chief Al Jones. The officer originally intended to conduct a traffic stop due to illegal plates that McKay had on the black Cadillac he was driving, Jones said at the news conference. As seen in the bodycam video, the officer who was on a motorcycle directed McKay to pull over to the right of the freeway. Instead, McKay swerved across several lanes on the highway and pulled over on the left shoulder. When the officer also pulled over to the left shoulder, he was heard yelling at McKay to get out of the car. He told McKay to keep his hands on the steering wheel and said, You dont do that kind of bull [expletive] with me. A Kennedale police officer also pulled over to assist the Arlington officer, according to Jones. McKay responded to the Arlington officer by apologizing and said he crossed several lanes on I-20 as he was trying to help someone. He is heard in the video repeatedly apologizing to the officer. As McKay is explaining himself to both officers about why he crossed the lanes, the Arlington officer is heard in the video saying, I told you to go across that way and you went ahead this way... Your vehicle smells like weed. You got a gun in the car? Do you have any weapons in the car? McKay shook his head as the Arlington officer asked a second time if he had a weapon in his car. The only other occupant in his vehicle was a dog he had in the back seat, according to Jones. Jones could not confirm at the news conference whether drugs were found in McKays vehicle. You shouldve done what you were told man, said the officer, to which McKay replied, I didnt see you. The Arlington officer then tells McKay to turn the car off and to give him the keys. Instead, McKay turns his car on, according to the video. I just told you to turn the car off and give me the keys, the Arlington officer said in the video. The officer then tells McKay to step out of the car and attempts to grab the driver. Dont do that. Dont touch me, said McKay. The Arlington officer is heard in the video repeatedly telling McKay to turn the vehicle off and to step out of the car, to which the driver refuses. Im not doing anything wrong, sir, McKay said after refusing to comply. You just turned the car on when I told you to turn it off, said the Arlington officer. Both officers attempted to get McKay out of the vehicle and the Arlington officer told him, You got a gun in the car? Quit reaching around. McKay is then seen in the video moving over to the passenger seat and grabbing a handgun. The Arlington officer aimed his gun at McKay and ordered him to put his hands up. McKay repeatedly says dont do it while holding his gun, the video shows. Both officers are heard asking McKay multiple times to put his hands up. At one point, the Arlington officer is heard yelling, Ill kill you. Put the gun down. McKay said, I know you will, dont do it as he again refused to put his gun down. He then said, step away from my car, just before the Arlington officer fired his gun at him three times. The driver was taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead, police said Thursday. The Kennedale officer did not fire her weapon, according to Arlington police. Neither of the officers were injured. The dog that was inside McKays vehicle was not injured. This is a very stressful situation, said Jones at the conference. Theyre [officers] put in these unfortunate situations. Were asking our residents to comply with us so that we dont have these types of outcomes. When asked by a reporter about the Arlington officer telling McKay he would kill him, Jones said he does not think that was the officers intention. Im sure the officer wasnt thinking that he wanted to kill Mr. McKay. What he wanted Mr. McKay to do was to comply with the orders that hes given. Mr. McKay had several opportunities... Those two officers pretty much begged him to drop the weapon several times and he failed to comply, Jones said. Jones added that the situation could not have de-escalated when a weapon was drawn by the driver. When they saw that gun, that became a deadly situation. There is really not that much room where they could have de-escalated, said Jones. Officers do not have to wait for someone to point their gun at them before they fire their weapons, according to Jones. Its an unfortunate situation that I wish could have had a better outcome and thats why its important to comply, Jones said. The officer, an eight-year-veteran with the department, has been placed on paid leave per department policy.

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He did not point the weapon at anyone. I'm pro-police but not sure this passes the smell test. Also, they will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing on the part of the police... I did not see that the cop had to make a split-second decision. He held the weapon but was holding it down as the situation appeared to be de- escalating.

This could've been handled differently and not with this man losing his life

A license plate cover lead to this shooting. That blows my mind. The officer was overly aggressive from the beginning. This could have been deescalated. He should have been issued tickets. They officer acted like he did nit like him already.

Null_Gain posted...

Academy training demands that cops are to empty their entire clip on a suspect if the cop decides to open fire. It's to make sure the target stays down and doesn't return fire.

Academy doesn't seem to train very well

shameful and pathetic

DrizztLink posted...

Darkprince45, was it?

old account got banned?

don't get the logic

what do death metal and rap have in common that you claim rap wants to be death metal?

people like different things

rap is about a steady low bass beat
deathmetal is about a really fast paced mix of things not just low bass and usually a guy screaming his lungs out while in rap people don't do that

CADE_FOSTER posted...

bruh if the slighest sound sets you off time to get a new job

but then how you gonna play like a 5 year old and goo pew pew pew at imaginary entities?

Several articles mentioning YES if you are too smart you cannot be a cop

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PhitTjjsCiM

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/robert-jordan-too-smart-to-be-a-cop

https://time.com/6253243/police-academy-training-future-officers-wrong/

TheSavageDragon posted...

Even if not using a gun...any case where someone did something that might end in loss of life they should be prosecuted to the full extent of whatever law your region adheres to.
Sure, we're human and we make mistakes. But we should be held accountable for them equally.

Like someone else said, if I were to fire a gun because "I feared for my life" I'd be facing the court. What an US cop seems to be generally facing in that case is a relocation which just isn't right.

Agreed.

Cops think you are wrong though. They are "special".
Like snowflakes

Now consider why so many cops are found to be idiots without gun knowledge who danger the lives of citizens.

Could it be because of what I just said? That treating cops like children who don't know better ATTRACTS the idiots who do this? People who want to discharge and just get a wrist slap?

Yes

Higher standards = less idiots

So why would you not want that. Surely you are not afraid you are like them??

Noname13 posted...

You guys are purposely misinterpreting what I am saying to make some point. Telling me you were in the military means nothing to me. I did 8 years and deployed once in a combat job. If you think police training was a joke. Army training was an even bigger joke. All the training was outdated with junk weapons weve had for years before I even came through. Ill never forget the day on the range when some 18 year old handed a rifle decide to ND by shooting at the cadres tower

Think of it this way.

If I am shitty idiot who wants to shoot at people with basically no reprocution, I should become a cop because guys like you will fight for me to be treated like an innocent infant.

TheSavageDragon posted...

I'd say you shouldn't just be handing out life ending tools to people that aren't up for not using them properly tbh

If a person acts like an idiot using a gun firing at people, what do you believe should be the punishment?

Noname13 posted...

He did face responsibility, he lost his career and is probably fucked now. There is no follow up yet on court information if the city is pursuing charges

Endangering a man's life is just a loss of career?

And we find cops usually get jobs elsewhere after these incidents so that is even a lie.

Noname13 posted...

He obviously is an idiot and needed to assess his threat and after each shot

Noname13 posted...

He obviously is an idiot and needed to assess his threat and after each shot

So what you are saying is being a cop is the right to be an idiot with a gun who discharges at people and faces no reaponsibility for it?

WOW

LordFarquad1312 posted...

Isn't there a test you have to do in order to prove you're not too smart to be a cop?

Actually kinda

There is videos on this
Like not joking

MarbyIsBack posted...

You do realize you're talking to a cop, right? Of course he's gonna take the side of his fellow boy in blue.

Oh so he wants to be pampered like a child?
Having no responsibility huh

Shameless

Noname13 posted...

Yep. And thats why these incidents are judged by the perception of a reasonable officer at the time of the incident without 20/20 hindsight. Not in the position of the mailman or bartender did it.

Well trained means they know better = punishment SHOULD be more severe

Also with great power comes greater responsibility.

Yet you want them treated like wittle babies and untrained citizens with less knowlesge to be treated more severely.

That is LITERAL BRAIN ROT of an opinion

Noname13 posted...

You were comparing a different position/job and their punishment for the same action. When that doesnt make any sense

Cops are more well trained? Yes or no?

Noname13 posted...

Because the standard has to be and is held different. I mean thats obvious. That comes with good and bad. In terms of perks and punishments for abusing your position

?????
Huh

wackyteen posted...

Least he resigned and they acknowledged his actions were unreasonable lol.

Idk of literally any other profession where you could do this and not immediately be fired though

Other profession you get jail time actually

chad giving it out generously?

Taylor Swift did this. She walked so Beyonce could run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238Z4YaAr1g

Actually on a serious note this kind of move wouldn't make sense to anyone and it didn't back when Taylor Swift did it with country -> pop -> her own genre except that she was highly successful.
So she actually is why this is happening.

haters will hate but she will shake it off

how ironic the person to follow her footsteps is the artist Kanye caused that controversy for

No war.

He was a cosplayer of fantasy novel.

False bravado is of negative worth in the age of tech and in a country where people own guns.

Smackems posted...

Didn't he support gay marriage before becoming president? Really try to drive that home and see what they do

2015 had a lot of people mention he was friends with the Clintons and liberal on many issues. Some thought he would get in and surprise do a 180. Some said Hilary was the more conservative warhawk candidate lol.

Didn't work he won.

This was tried in 2015 and he became President fyi

Is she poor now or something?

Prestoff posted...

That's honestly worst considering Audience Scores are more susceptible to review bombing than critics score.

Unless there was an identity politics scandal "review bombs" are just people who bought something and it was bad and it was bad enough to upset lots of people
Aka legit reviews

Turbam posted...

Was it Bud Light?

Epic

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


A guy who Reigns

Gonna go review bomb a bunch of capcom games and we will see how little tc cares about reviews

Huahhehehahah

Also give RE 4 straight 10\10

Incredible posted...

People will start calling her a legend in like 20 years

This.

Kids today will not even care about 70-80s music and will see current music as the old nostalgic music of their parents

Ivynn posted...

"Huh, another Spiderman-without-Spiderman movie is getting poor reviews and will probably flop. Better try again," - Sony, probably

Next they will make a Morlun movie lol

"Stop tracking me!!"

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Are the two helipads there so it can have two helicopters onboard or are they for if you don't want to walk to the other side of the yacht and it'll just fly you over?

:)

Anony1125 posted...

TC: you must consider the ramifications of the coupon on other people

CE: who cares about other people?
and/or this gives me the power to hurt people who deserve it

I just think it's funny how CE criticizes the super wealthy for getting there by exploiting people, but when offered the hypothetical chance to set themselves for life guilt-free or potentially become super wealthy by exploiting people we're like "ooh yeah, that sounds nice".

just getting most items for their actual price tbh

Either Civil War or Fascist Regime till he kicks the bucket

he wants to be Putin

but Hilary

supposedly this is Bezos' Yacht

pic is compared to a bunch of houses on the shore

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/574ea692.jpg

80% off means you can buy a bunch of cars and houses at 80% off and sale them for at least 80% of the true value super fast netting at least double your money even after taxes
quickly that surpasses the 4 million

Baha05 posted...

Ok it hasnt been passed yet. Does make me wonder why why of these assholes never managed to recreate the Titanic just because they probably can afford it.

not by a privately owned yacht I guess

but

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2efee2cd.jpg

"live by the woods"

first thing people jump to "ghosts"

not say the animals that live in the woods and would normally scratch on wood?

shnangyboos posted...

With the elimination of capitalism, do we all have boats like that, or does no one?

we would collectively own them like we do with parks and public spaces

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/06519304.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70367c68.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2610fdce.jpg