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something IMPORTANT to point out also

when you buy say Elden Ring directly from Namco digitally, they make the full $60 off you

so in this way games HAVE GONE UP
just from a distro perspective not customer facing

as in if you bought it at walmart they would have made like idk $25

this is highly important to consider

Punished_Blinx posted...

You're making the assumption that those record profits are coming from traditional video games and not because of GAAS and mobile games. Live services make up 73% of EA's revenue.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2023/5/11/elden-ring-game-sells-over-20-million-copies

Bandai Namco's financial results finished out strongly for fiscal year 2022 thanks to Elden Ring's popularity, reaching $7.3 billion in sales for the previous fiscal year ending March 31, 2023. This compares quite favorably to fiscal year 2022, which reached a total of $6.6 billion in sales revenue, representing an 11 percent increase in revenue year-over-year.

Elden Ring, one of the most expansive games of the current gen, is thought to have made about 1 BILLION in profit

maybe don't make bad games?

Why the gaming industry is so profitable? That means the gaming industry is making more than three times as much money as the music industry and almost four times as much as the movie industry. One of the main reasons for the gaming industry's success is the increasing popularity of mobile gaming.

Let me REPEAT that for you

the gaming industry is making more than three times as much money as the music industry and almost four times as much as the movie industry.

Imagine buying into the idea that game prices stagnated and poor publishers aren't getting a fair cut

HOLY

MOLY

https://www.vintageisthenewold.com/game-pedia/how-profitable-is-the-video-game-industry

In 2022, the video game market size in the United States was estimated to be 97.67 billion U.S. dollars, setting a new all-time industry record.

The Global video game industry is valued at $159.3 billion in 2020, with 2.7 billion gamers worldwide. 75% of US households have at least one gamer. Global trends: the impact from the pandemic has driven sales, with the U.S. seeing a record 31% increase in consumer spending on video gaming and subscription services.

record being broken

money outclassing HOLLYWOOD ITSELF

and WHINING FUCKING BABY PUBLISHERS

GREED GREED GREED GREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREEDGREED GREED

LeadPipeCinche posted...

BTW. Game prices are about the same as they were +30 years ago. I was paying $80 for games on the NES & SNES back in the day.

irrelevant

only people who point this out are GREEDY SELFISH ENTITLED Publishers and Developers,... and sadly gamers who got TRICKED

RECORD PROFITS are being reported
but wait HOW!?!?
How can they have made MORE MONEY THAN EVER when inflation is going up and games prices aren't
HOW!!!?!?!!?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/98e5ed01.jpg

The answer is VERY
VERY
VERY SIMPLE

30 years ago you sell a $60 game and less than 1 million people buy it

today you sell $60 game and 5 million buy on release
5 million more buy at like $40
and then several million more when it is like $20
but tbh price drop DOESN'T matter because they make the money from the store's purchase not you

so they sell like 12 million now

say store buys game at like $25 per copy
difference: $25 X 1 million = 25 million
$25 x 12 million = $300 million

imagine your profits increasing that much and whining about it

how fucking greedy must you be?

Your favorite fact boy

who?

so how do they discuss his plans on deportation?

no tip

hunting season is on

St0rmFury posted...

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selves doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know every little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, misogynistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challenge when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competitive, hard core, by nature. We love a challenge. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challenge us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUnSVTh8fI

Tropicalwood posted...

But he can't really do that because nobody will pay $200 for GTA6 at launch when games have been $60 since forever.

Not the right way to look at it. The argument doesn't exist within itself, it is not a vacuum.

Rather the thing is GTA6 on the shelf at $200 and Elden Ring at $20 and BG3 at $40.

That is why GTA6 will not sell at $200. It isn't because "games always been cheaper".
Also many will not even think about those and will just say GTA6 not worth $200 for no other reason than they said so.

tc wanting us to click to help boogie afford his ladies of the night

smh

Tropicalwood posted...

The industry has pricing power, they've just been shifting the cost elsewhere these days. You used to have a million different costumes that could just be unlocked through normal gameplay in games and now that's a separate purchase called DLC.

You want to play online? Only PC doesn't charge you an annual fee anymore.

Wouldn't call that pricing power. That is an attempt to milk those who bought in to make up for those who did not as they felt entitled to a certain amount of revenue and didn't get it.

The more they do this, the less people who buy in causing the need to do this more and more and aggressively and eventually you go too far and lose even those who buy in as they shift to indie games or ethical devs who don't do this. See BG3 and the response to it

as long as she is a good person at heart and can handle wealth in a way that is not greedy then one day you can be charitable caring human beings
and of course doesn't look down on others

refmon posted...

who was this movie even made for lmao

MCU fans who needed something to spend their money on and pseudo MCU fans who didn't buy Disney plus

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Of course there are molecules on Mars you can make oxygen from. We've known there was water there for decades

Did you read the article?

Think about an article like this. Why does a huge publisher whine and discuss what they THINK games should be priced at?
Why don't they just....price their games at what they think it should be?
Take a moment, consider it.

https://exputer.com/news/industry/gta-6-publisher-games-priced-per-hour/

GTA 6 Publisher Believes Games Should Be Priced Per Hour

"That doesnt necessarily mean that the industry has pricing power."

During the earnings call for Take-Two Interactives Q2 2024 period, CEO Strauss Zelnick expressed his stance on how video games should be priced on a per-hour basis. The GTA 6 publishers CEO elaborated on the statement by going over how the algorithm is designed when talking about entertainment properties and the customers perceived value of the product.

"In terms of pricing for any entertainment property, basically the algorithm is the value of the expected entertainment usage, which is to say that the per-hour value times the number of expected hours plus the terminal value thats perceived by the customer in ownership if the title is actually owned, not, say, rented or subscribed to. And youll see that that bears out in every kind of entertainment vehicle. By that standard, our frontline prices are still very, very low because we offer many hours of engagement.

Moving on, Zelnick talked about how the industry provides a fantastic price-to-value opportunity for consumers overall. They went on to say, That doesnt necessarily mean that the industry has pricing power or wants to have pricing power. However, there is a great deal of value offered.

They know they can't just price games however they want and....have people still buy them.

So publishers go on HUGE tirades to CONVINCE gamers to buy into the idea that...games SHOULD cost more.

Because NOTHING is stopping them from pricing games higher other than gamers saying "I will pay that much"

So far many gamers (intelligently in my opinion) have said I won't pay more. We see this with how SUPER fast games drop in price nowadays. This is a response to TONS of copies sitting on shelves not moving because...the PRICE is too high for people and the BUYING IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL DECISION AND FREEDOM!

So what happens then is the industry realizes it doesn't have the pricing power. The product isn't essential where they can just manipulate it without blowback. It isn't something even super in demand. The product more of a "if you want it, when you want it, as you want it on your own time". Not even FOMO associated like with "limited edition" things.

So they have to spend long hard hours to CONVINCE

CONVINCE

to make you DECIDE TO BUY into and argument that games should cost more.

Do you buy it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate_II:_Shadows_of_Amn

GameSpy, GameSpot, and IGN awarded it their "Role-Playing Game of the Year" awards for 2000, and the game has sold more than two million units.

In the United States, Baldur's Gate II entered PC Data's computer game sales charts at #5 during the September 1723 period.[120] It rose to second place the following week, behind The Sims: Livin' Large, while its Collector's Edition captured the seventh position.[121] In its first 14 days, Baldur's Gate II drew in revenues of $4 million across all SKUs in North America, a sales record for an Interplay computer title

Baldur's Gate II received critical acclaim upon its release,[148] and is listed as the seventh highest-scoring PC game on the review aggregator Metacritic (as of November 2022).

Awards
Baldur's Gate II has been honored many times. GameSpot, GameSpy, and IGN awarded it their "Role-Playing Game of the Year" awards in 2000,[169][171][172] and it won GameSpot's Readers' Choice Game of the Year award for that year.[168] It received three "Gaming Globe" awards from Eurogamer in 2001: Best Game, Best Art Direction, and Best Male Supporting Character (for Minsc).[166] The Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences honored Shadows of Amn with the "Character or Story Development" award at the 4th Annual Interactive Achievement Awards; the game also received nominations for the "Game of the Year", "PC Game of the Year", "PC Role-Playing", and "Game Play Engineering" categories.[165] IGN placed it at No. 25 on their 2005 "Top 100 Games of All Time" list.[173] In 2006, though not ranking in the top five games, it earned an "honorable mention" in Gamasutra's Quantum Leap Awards.[178] Baldur's Gate II was inducted into GameSpot's "Greatest Games of All Time" list.[170] In 2009, Game Informer placed Baldur's Gate II at No. 88 on their list of "The Top 200 Games of All Time", calling it "the best Dungeons & Dragons game ever made". This is up one place from their top 100 list in 2001.[167][179] Empire ranked it No. 19 on their list of the 100 Greatest Games.[180] At the end of 2009, Baldur's Gate II, though not quite making the Top 12 list, received an honorable mention in Gamasutra's Game of the Decade, where readers voted for their best game of the 2000s.[181]
In 2010, on IGN's Top 25 Modern PC Games, Baldur's Gate II clocked in at No. 2.[174] In 2013, it was placed at No. 46 on GamingBolt's "Top 100 greatest video games ever made".[182] IGN ranked Baldur's Gate II No. 1 on their list of "The Top 11 Dungeons & Dragons Games of All Time" in 2014.[183] Ian Williams of Paste rated the game No. 2 on his list of "The 10 Greatest Dungeons and Dragons Videogames" in 2015.[184] IGN ranked Baldur's Gate II No. 3 on their "Top 100 RPGs of All Time" list.[185] In 2016, PC Gamer noted the game on their "best RPGs of all time".[186] It was placed at No. 9 on Game Informer's "Top 100 RPGs Of All Time" list,[187] and was included among PCGamesN's "best RPGs on PC" as well.[188]

Maybe you guys should just admit you don't know much about PC gaming history or maybe gaming history in general

like it is ok if you only play like Halo, CoD or Fortnite and never touched other games, nothing wrong with that, just don't act otherwise

Funkydog posted...

I don't think anyone, even Lairen, expected the game to blow up as much as it did.

Maybe it is younger people who hadn't hear about Baldur Gate over the decades that have this false view.

Feel like Spiderman

You had beautiful eyes

Frozen Saddles, Frostbit Butts

ellis123 posted...

I was into CRPGs at the time so I very much know the climate at its release.

And being a classic means little as the transcends genre and the like. Same thing goes with it even being a success, look at Rocky Horror for an example of both at play.

And any announced sequel to Rocky Horror would NOT be seen as niche. It would be a huge deal as was BG3 always.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

For a PC game from early 2000 when you just needed to hit 1 million copies to be a hit. BG3 IS still a niche game, cause it caters to the "nerds" with all its hardcore options you can go around playing it.

The game just happened to be very good and reviews helped it to garner a lot of hype so it pretty much went viral.

Would you say the same thing of Diablo 2?
It also a PC game pre-2000s that barely needed to hit 1 million.

Legacy is important and BG2 has been discussed decades since as one of the best games of its kind and a classic.

"Let me keep it a buck fifty, on god, fr. Don't get it twisted."

ellis123 posted...

CRPGs weren't niche at the time. Sort of like how 2D platformers are niche now but were 't in the 90's.

I have no idea the climate when BG2 released but since up till now it has gained huge popularity and considered a classic.

I haven't even played it and heard and knew about it and neverwinter nights and ps2 had some loot game based on it I think like loot slash game.

Ivynn posted...

I mean did anyone expect Baldur's Gate 3 to sell gangbusters like it did? the Baldur's Gate series was niche and hadn't had a new entry in 20 years. The fact that it exploded was a pleasant surprise.

Yes actually Baldur Gate 2 was highly popular

They will scream

CENSORSHIP!!!

pinky0926 posted...

One Piece was the exception, not the rule. They somehow managed to change the tone while keeping the spirit, whereas so many of these adaptions do the opposite.

took Oda being involved

Hayame_Zero posted...

https://youtu.be/5PCDYZxnv_U?si=FxPzMMQRgQX6XSbM

go to your room

Antifar posted...

now I've gotta be

what do you mean now?

;)

MisterPengy posted...

Maybe I'm just old and salty but none of the characters looked right. Except maybe the Toguro brothers.

welcome to the typical netflix adaptation experience

https://www.space.com/mars-oxygen-ai-robot-chemist-splitting-water

The system calculated more than 3.7 million molecules it could make from six different metallic elements in the rocks.

Using meteorites from Mars, an AI-powered robot chemist synthesized compounds that could be used to generate oxygen from water, scientists announced on Monday (Nov. 13). .
Potential future crewed missions to Mars will need oxygen not just for astronauts to breathe, but also for use as rocket propellant. One key way to make such missions cost-effective in the long run is to use resources that already exist on the Red Planet to create the oxygen. That'd be much easier than lugging a bunch of oxygen, and oxygen-producing materials, all the way from Earth.
The idea is promising because Mars does possess significant reserves of frozen water ice because water is made of hydrogen and oxygen, scientists have been looking for ways to harvest the latter element from those Martian reserves. In particular, compounds known as catalysts are capable of spurring chemical reactions that "split" water molecules to generate oxygen and hydrogen gas.

In a new study, researchers experimented with an AI chemist to produce some of those water-splitting catalysts most importantly, these tests were conducted with materials found on Mars. The team focused on five different categories of Martian meteorites, which are rocks that crashed down on Earth after cosmic impacts blasted them off the Red Planet.
The AI chemist used a robot arm to collect samples from the Martian meteorites, then it employed a laser to scan the ore. From there, it calculated more than 3.7 million molecules it could make from six different metallic elements in the rocks iron, nickel, manganese, magnesium, aluminum and calcium.
Within six weeks, without any human intervention, the AI chemist selected, synthesized and tested 243 of those different molecules. The best catalyst the robot found could split water at minus 34.6 degrees F (minus 37 degrees C), the kind of cold temperature found on none other than Mars.
"When I was a boy, I dreamed of interstellar exploration," Jun Jiang, co-senior author of the study and a scientist at the University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei. told Space.com. "So when we finally saw that the catalysts made by the robot could actually produce oxygen by splitting water molecules, I felt like my dream was coming true. I even started to imagine that I, myself, will live on Mars in the future."

The researchers estimate it would have taken a human scientist something like 2,000 years to find that "best" catalyst using conventional trial-and-error techniques. Still, Jiang noted that, although these findings suggest AI can be very helpful in science, it "at the same time needs the guidance of human scientists. The robot AI chemist is smart only if we taught it to do something."
The scientists now aim to see if their AI chemist can operate under Martian conditions other than temperature, "in which the atmospheric composition, air density, humidity, gravity and so on are so different than those on Earth," Jiang said.

Giving away his money won't solve the problem lol

he should just keep spoiling marvel movies

ai123 posted...

The health benefits of these cookies? Legible ingredients (for fuck's sake), no gluten, Vitamin D. 'So many benefits', they claim. I guess regulation over what can be advertised as 'healthy' is pretty slack in the US.

The only way you will feel better on this shit is because you won't be able to afford to gorge on it.

from the website

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/437133e4.jpg

itachi15243 posted...

No messages were found on this page?

?

they block you cause of adblock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMi-DDJtExs

I mean if One Piece did it not all is hopeless but

itachi15243 posted...

She owns so much shit

It's gonna be so weird in 20 or 30 years when people will start talking about how early 2020s Influencers have become the next big wave of generational wealth started in this country. >.>

yea they will go from favorites to just another wealthy class with stupid opinions and too much power

she now owns the fighting game tournament thing fyi

EVO

CE_gonna_CE posted...

lol

seems targetted to her fellow streamers who have too much disposable income and their fans who don't think logically when purchasing something their fav streamers are parroting

infact this is streamer dogfood lol

Sajo posted...

Because the dev makes shitty resident evil rip offs, why would this be any better?

dinner time

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/21ff767b.jpg

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/11/13/twitch-streamer-pokimane-launches-myna-snacks/71136108007/

Famous Twitch streamer Pokimane launches healthy snack food line after dealing with health issues

A new food product, co-founded by the number one female Twitch streamer, boasts on being both healthy and delicious, but most importantly, a safer option for gamers used to snacking.
Founders Darcey Macken, a 15-year veteran in the CPG industry, and Imane Anys, also known as Pokimane, launched Myna Snacks on Monday, a new snack food company.
The company idea was birthed when Anys started experiencing health issues due to excessive online streaming and unhealthy food intake during the pandemic. In order to keep her energy up, Anys resorted to consuming large amounts of junk food to entertain her over 6 million subscribers.
"The food I was eating took a toll on my health," Anys told USA TODAY. "I went on a health journey in 2021 and realized there aren't many good food options. If I wanted a good-tasting snack, it would be filled with unhealthy stuff. If I found something healthy, it would taste nasty," Anys said.
During a meeting with Macken in January, Anys proposed starting a new snack company that would offer both healthy and tasty options to pull in those dissatisfied with the current "health food" choices.

Macken was eager to begin immediately and found the perfect taste for their new brand with the help of manufacturing company Connect Ventures.
"Our first snack will be called the Midnight Mini Cookies," Macken shared. "The Midnight Mini Cookies is a treat that can be enjoyed at any time of the day, just like coffee."
The Midnight Mini Cookies are the first and sole product launched by Myna Snacks, its name reflecting its appearance and taste.

Consumers can buy the Midnight Mini Cookies online for $28. Those who purchase will receive one box with four pouches inside. Some packages have incentives, such as a gift from Anys. Myna plans to evaluate the market for their new product before considering entry into retail in late 2024.
Both Anys and Macken say parents will be happy to know that the Midnight Mini Cookie does not contain unhealthy ingredients found in most child-targeted products.
"It has legible ingredients, it's gluten-free, with a good source of vitamin D," Anys shared. "It has so many benefits that it can be both kid-requested and parent-approved."
The business partners state that the company message is to encourage a healthy relationship with snacking. Myna Snacks believes snacking should make you feel good, be fun, and be good for you.

but what seems to happen if their career lasts long enough and they made several million is they started buying companies or making brands

Pokimane just launched a snack brand

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/11/13/twitch-streamer-pokimane-launches-myna-snacks/71136108007/

making a million in a few years is a bigger head start than making like $70,000 a year

if they have the intelligence to invest that is

and maybe their career won't burn out super fast....maybe

but consider the likes of Amouranth she makes 12 million a year and her career still going

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


yep exactly

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0be31053.jpg

It is WORSE with the voice acting

https://youtu.be/5PHOv8K1wtU?si=Sdb088N3Jz7fVSGm&t=106

CobraGT posted...

Obfuscation Alert

You complaining about boomers~ boomers complaining about you.

Both of you are not only missing the culprit, you are missing that you should unite and fight together.

Boomers are not the cause of your problems. You are not the cause of boomers' problems.

If nothing else, you should step back and admire how the ruling class has managed to set you at each other.

Boomers vote the republicans

See Florida

cocomelon

a tweet linking to another tweet

which got removed

smh

Alteres posted...

You are freakin evil for hiding two goddamn reddit links in spoiler tags

auto opening the app on mobile if I touch it

??

How does that work?

Rexdragon125 posted...

What will they do when he dissolves the FDA, and there's regularly just literal cow shit in their chicken nuggies because no regulation

tell people to stop being poor

Were_Wyrm posted...

Well you see that's still the effects of the Biden economy....

TRUE