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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/07/17 9:33:16 AM
#282
StealThisSheen posted...
Vlado posted...
Show me some proof that the woman in question is in any way related to the Russian government, and I'll consider the possibility. You won't because there isn't any. If there was, the globalist media would've exploded already months ago.


"MOSCOW — The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. last year after his father had won the Republican nomination for president had once represented Russia’s top intelligence agency in court, according to at least two public records.

The lawyer, Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, who is now at the center of the political intrigue over the Trump campaign’s possible collusion with Russia during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, represented a military unit founded by the Russian Federal Security Service in 2002, publicly available records show.

The service, known as the F.S.B., is the successor agency to the K.G.B. and was once headed by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia."

Are you really going to say she's just some random lawyer

Don't you think that's awfully coincidental

And that makes her "Russia's prime prosecutor" or whatever that e-mail said?

You're going to need something more concrete than that. Especially considering she gave Don Jr. nothing of value. Why would Putin send someone to Don Jr. who would be of no help to him at all? Unless of course you claim Putin was helping Clinton. :)

Peace___Frog posted...
I think the issue is that even if we grant vlado the handicap of "this Russian is unconnected to the Russian government", he's from a backwater country and doesn't understand that it's against our domestic laws for a presidential campaign to accept explicit assistance from any foreigner. She could be a homeless Russian beggar who is trying to fuck Don Jr and just wants to get close to him, and lies about having dirt on Clinton. Regardless of her connection to the government, regardless of what she does or does not have - it's illegal and improper to include foreign agents in an American campaign.

Talking to a person does not make them part of the campaign. Clinton's campaign obviously talked to lots of foreigners, too. You're grasping at straws, and it's frankly a waste of everyone's time to continue talking about this.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/07/17 5:44:28 AM
#276
Show me some proof that the woman in question is in any way related to the Russian government, and I'll consider the possibility. You won't because there isn't any. If there was, the globalist media would've exploded already months ago.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/07/17 5:17:27 AM
#274
Holy crap, you still haven't picked up that the Don Jr. thing was a setup and Russia weren't involved at all? That was months ago, dude. "The prime prosecutor of Russia," as advertised in that e-mail, is just some random lawyer whose existence Putin is probably unaware of.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/07/17 4:30:04 AM
#272
Espeon posted...
As opposed to your "The Russia narrative is a hoax by the globalists and the deep state" scenarios that are well-researched and likely.

It is researched and a fact, but it doesn't even need to be. "Innocent until proven guilty." There is not a SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE implicating Russia so far.

And you're choosing to ignore the clear evidence presented on that site... That's entirely on you. You choose to be ignorant.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/06/17 7:43:09 AM
#266
As I said, I don't follow infowars. Water filter salesman is controlled opposition. If he wasn't, he never would have been allowed to get this big.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/06/17 7:41:13 AM
#264
Instead of trying to come up with unlikely scenarios in which your lol-worthy version just might hold up against the small excerpt I quoted, how about you read the whole thing.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/05/17 3:17:49 PM
#262
Jakyl25 posted...
US intelligence believes Russia was the source, at any rate

Wrong. They know very well that they are lying to you.

Anyway, the crux of the matter:
Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.

What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.

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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/05/17 3:08:53 PM
#260
"The US"? What? DNC, not "the US." Pretty sure US intelligence wouldn't do such a sloppy job.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/05/17 2:56:28 PM
#257
Jakyl25 posted...
So if you're 100% sure Seth Rich was a source purely because of how Assange acts, what's the difference between that and just outright saying it.

IMO, Assange benefits by implying it but not saying it because it allows fools to fill in blanks with their own fanfiction all without saying anything legally false.

Your theory is not impossible. We can't make a solid conclusion without solid facts. However, Occam's razor indicates that the data was leaked, and Rich's murder makes it all the more likely.

BTW, in case you've missed it, the Guccifer 2.0 "leaks" were all but proven to have been staged by DNC.

http://g-2.space/
http://g-2.space/dnc/
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/05/17 2:38:16 PM
#254
Assange didn't outright say it because WikiLeaks would lose a lot of trust if they revealed a source. However, WikiLeaks' actions since the murder have heavily implied it.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
Vlado how do you think search engines should work?

Should they not have an algorithm in place that punishes sites that regularly post false "news" and instead promotes legitimate sites?

There should not be a bias towards mainstream media, no. Mainstream media lie all the time to push their agendas. They are anything but legitimate.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/04/17 7:19:26 AM
#249
CoolCly posted...
i feel like i've seen vlado complain that only right wing crazy sites are getting censored by google and the left is free to do anything it wants, typical globalists etc

now a left wing crazy site is hit too and it's.... still the left's fault?

It's anti-globalist sites that get censored, genius. I said as much in the opening post.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/03/17 6:59:56 AM
#242
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Every news source is wrong sometimes.

Yeah, it's not like these were deliberate, and often even staged, just honest mistakes... lmao
LordoftheMorons posted...
Vlado posted...
Waiting for every globalist media to issue a retraction on the MUH RUSSIA nonsense.

Journalists typically don't retract legitimate stories, so you may be waiting a while

Imagine being such a hillary clinton fanboy that you still believe this after 15 months of investigation and not a single piece of evidence...

LMAO
M
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 4:01:15 PM
#236
MoogleKupo141 posted...
whatever dumb YouTube videos you just posted doesn't make literally everything CNN televises fake

it's ok to just admit you wrongly believed a random picture you saw on twitter and accept this wasn't staged

lmao, yeah, "wrongly believed," after I proved it several times over in this topic.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
for fuck's sake, even ulti said he stopped watching infowars because he finally realized alex jones is a total idiot. the fact that vlado takes an infowars conspiracy theory as gospel automatically makes him the #1 joke user in political discussion on board 8.

Who told you I saw this on the humble water filter salesman channel? They lied.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
And more reliable sources will issue a retraction when they run a story that turns out to have been incorrect.

Waiting for every globalist media to issue a retraction on the MUH RUSSIA nonsense.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 3:06:08 PM
#228
Imagine still believing CNN after "gems" like these...





More useful watching:


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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 1:00:30 PM
#223
I like how you countered my common sense observation... You didn't.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 8:07:58 AM
#216
Well, you also believe that every type of socialism implemented in the world so far is "not real socialism" because it failed miserably, so I'm not surprised.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 7:21:48 AM
#214
When you're trying to find roundabout excuses to justify your version, you might as well give up.

Occam's razor wins again.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
09/01/17 6:50:58 AM
#212
HashtagSEP posted...
You absolutely make sure that you're not just going to put yourself in danger in trying to help them, which something like sandals on a slippery, wet surface would absolutely do.

Like, this is no different than taking your shoes, jacket, etc. off before you jump in the water to save somebody.

Did everyone on the filming crew wear sandals? It didn't have to be the reporter who pulled the guy out, if he was ill-equipped.

The second part of the video is entirely staged.

Not_an_Owl posted...
tl;dr journalist in 2011 learns Google prioritizes results that get engagement on Google Plus and reports that fact; Google pressures her employer to take the story down and then prevents any trace of the original story from being found via Google search.

Typical google. Turn to alternatives if you value liberty.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 10:40:30 AM
#164
If someone is in real danger, do you care about how wet you'll get, or do you simply go save them? This is beyond sad.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 10:27:58 AM
#159
Vlado posted...
The reporter is initially in shorts, and then puts on long pants in the period between noticing the car and supposedly pulling the guy out. Making it very obvious that the guy was in no danger, and that the second part of the "rescue" (when the reporter wears long pants) was staged.

This is my statement. Anything you add or try to twist is on you.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 10:25:58 AM
#157
MoogleKupo141 posted...
is the man driving into the water also staged?

I am not claiming something that cannot be proved with the facts we have at hand.

You're trying to pretend I'm saying something else, while I was crystal clear.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 9:56:21 AM
#147
lmao, 1984 doublethink at work. Suuuuuuure, he's in such huge danger that the reporter had time to change clothes before "saving" him. lmao
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 9:26:53 AM
#145
Wait, what? There's no way you aren't pretending.

The reporter is initially in shorts, and then puts on long pants in the period between noticing the car and supposedly pulling the guy out. Making it very obvious that the guy was in no danger, and that the second part of the "rescue" (when the reporter wears long pants) was staged.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 7:40:15 AM
#141
^
Are you trying to divert people from the obvious with nonsensical sentences?

I can't find the exact video the timestamps match, but here's the video CNN themselves released. Subtract ~18 seconds from the timestamps and they match.

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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 4:45:47 AM
#137
Meanwhile, at CNN...
NKh8fWR

Total jokes.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/31/17 4:21:13 AM
#136
TheRock1525 posted...
Why are people still responding in this topic when Vlado can't give us a reason why he's ok with the Steven Universe censorship?

As I said, I'll answer as soon as SEP answers my own question. :)

whoa posted...
https://yourlogicalphallacyis.com/getting-mad-online

kek
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/30/17 10:07:58 AM
#110
UltimaterializerX posted...
Watching the leftists on this board defend open censorship is hilarious.

That's because they are not actual leftists. They are globalists. Globalist fanboys, to be precise.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/30/17 5:18:25 AM
#96
metroid composite posted...
I kind of agree with Vlado on some level.

If you put something on twitter, and then get banned, yeah, that's you getting kicked off of a private platform.

But Google is not twitter. Google is a lookup system. Google is the lookup system. There isn't really competition

Thanks. At least someone from the "opposition" doesn't pretend not to understand my point.

metroid composite posted...
(Bing is a hoax created by the Chinese)

Uh, Microsoft is "the Chinese"? I'm not sure I understand.

metroid composite posted...
Next paragraph:

The “phenomenon of ‘fake news’” is, itself, the principal “fake news” story of 2017. In its origins and propagation, it has all the well-known characteristics of what used to be called CIA “misinformation” campaigns, aimed at discrediting left-wing opponents of state and corporate interests.



Uhhhhh.

The existence of 2016's fake news wave is fairly well-documented:

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/30/read-all-about-it-the-biggest-fake-news-stories-of-2016.html

And also generally not linked to the CIA (or Russia for that matter). These stories generated millions of clicks, generating a lot of ad revenue. Most of them were traced back to poor people needing money in places like Macedonia recognizing a potential source of income.

(Not to say that CIA misinformation campaigns or Russian misinformation campaigns have never happened, they have, buuut I think calling wsws.org here "misleading" sounds like an apt description).

Come on. If a single opinionated sentence leads you to the conclusion that they are "misleading," then what do we say about all the mainstream media with their attacks on Trump, the fabricated Russia connections, equating all Trump supporters to neo-nazis, etc.? Yet, those are HEAVILY prioritised by google. Sometimes, I need to scroll several pages to find a reliable source on political events.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/29/17 3:00:06 PM
#85
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
Trying to weasel out of the question using semantics again?


you really need to stop calling someone being 100% wrong and getting called out for it "a semantic argument." you recently did this too when ulti claimed hillary invented the term "alt-right."

Actually, in both cases you try to avoid addressing the point.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/29/17 12:23:34 PM
#75
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
Do explain how google is not a service of public importance.


jesus christ, a service of public importance isn't a public service.

Trying to weasel out of the question using semantics again?

Explain how google is not a service of public importance.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/29/17 12:11:36 PM
#64
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
Bitter that I am right and you are wrong, as usual? No need to mask it behind caps.


except that you're wrong.

the sky isn't purple, no matter how often you keep saying it is.

Vlado posted...
Do explain how google is not a service of public importance.

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Vlado
08/29/17 12:09:25 PM
#59
LapisLazuli posted...

LMFAO

Petition for 4 line sigs.

Bitter that I am right and you are wrong, as usual? No need to mask it behind caps.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
seconding this, btw. this is "if you like socialism so much, WHY DO YOU GO TO THE STORE LOL" level dumb.

Do explain how google is not a service of public importance.
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Vlado
08/29/17 12:05:52 PM
#52
Of course it matters. Why do you think I made this topic?
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Vlado
08/29/17 12:00:12 PM
#47
HashtagSEP posted...
Can I ask you to please explain why you said censorship of a television show was okay before, then?

Answer my question, and I'll answer yours.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/29/17 11:49:32 AM
#41
Using mental gymnastics will not change the fact that I stand for liberty.

Do explain how and why google censoring anti-globalist sites on both the left and right is the right thing to do.
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Vlado
08/29/17 11:33:35 AM
#35
HashtagSEP posted...
That doesn't make it a public service and you know that

Yes, it does.

In the end, you're literally supporting censorship.

I stand for liberty.

Therefore, everyone here knows I am the one who is right.
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TopicGoogle censorship cracks down on anti-war left-wing sites, too
Vlado
08/29/17 10:54:43 AM
#31
velocycloraptor posted...
its been pretty obvious that google is bad for awhile now

i have switched to using duckduckgo on my browser and phone tbh

if I wasn't so committed to my gmail account I would abandon them entirely

Good man! I am switching to alternatives, too.

HashtagSEP posted...
Google isn't a public service, though.

Yeah, it's not like the public can use it or anything!
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:46:51 AM
#18
TheRock1525 posted...
If someone said "I want to sit on the top of your house and yell obscenities at people walking by" and you said "no" are they allowed to yell "CENSORSHIP!" because that's essentially what you're saying whenever a privately owned company opts to do the same thing.

Not an argument. "Your house" is not a large discussion platform.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i should be allowed to "censor" people who post pro-nazi shit on my own private website. seems pretty asinine to have a different stance.

Didn't know the "world socialist web site" was pro-nazi.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
it's funny because vlado is also the kind of guy who would boycott gamespot for hosting a GTA V review that calls the game misogynist.

having access to all different opinions is great! except the ones i don't agree with!

Can you seriously not tell the difference between someone refusing to use a platform and someone being denied the right to use a platform?
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:29:57 AM
#12
Yes, it is. Newsflash: Government-imposed censorship is not the only kind of censorship. Anyone who owns a platform is capable of censorship.
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:25:41 AM
#10
Mr Lasastryke posted...
that doesn't necessarily mean the majority of people working at google are globalists.

Who cares about "the majority of people" who work there? It's the ones making these decisions that matter.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
Censorship is great!

OK, I just wasn't sure you thought so before this.
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Vlado
08/29/17 9:07:04 AM
#7
TheRock1525 posted...
Vlado posted...
Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?


But enough about you...

Vlado posted...
Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?

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Vlado
08/29/17 8:56:44 AM
#5
Mr Lasastryke posted...
why does google equal globalists?

Because it's obviously one of the global corporations that globalism policies benefit the most?

Also, care to address the issue at hand instead of making pointless posts?
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Vlado
08/29/17 8:05:27 AM
#2
Oh, Ron Paul also got hit:
https://www.rt.com/usa/401240-ron-paul-youtube-demonetization-censorship-advertisers/
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Vlado
08/29/17 8:04:40 AM
#1
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/25/pers-a25.html

Globalists are only allowing the part of the left that is useful to them a platform.
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