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| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 6:38:39 PM #36 | Leafeon13N posted... Leafeon13N posted...Now, i cant find the exact post but... Kbm got really mad when nana insinuated that another scum was typing her words for her. Do you want the rest of my raw notes? That took three hours straight of work. No one fucking wrote it for me. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 6:36:46 PM #32 | Well and Puns. Puns feels like such a sure thing that I forgot about him and thought I'd listed everybody else in the game. Speaking of Puns, I'd love to see some up-to-date thoughts from him. Been radio silence there for an awful long time. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 6:34:24 PM #29 | VeryInsane posted... I'm wondering, for those saying Nana is scum, who is his scum buddy Red, MI, Death, or you, with an outside chance of Leo. Basically Nana is the only sure bet for today. He's just spouting so many outright lies and not bothering to respond when I point them out. It's convinced Leo, apparently, so it's working. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 6:30:38 PM #26 | Did I seriously not respond to that? I seem to remember saying something about it. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 6:29:44 PM #25 | Leafeon13N posted... And is KBM gone too? I dont like these convos with so few people and my time is dwindling Vengeful_KBM posted... Be back in full force in a couple hours, still need to cool off a bit before the end of the day (though I'll probably keep making posts here and there). |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 5:26:10 PM #450 | Yeah that's a pretty dumb rule. Especially in an all-star game like this, it means absolutely nothing. Be back in full force in a couple hours, still need to cool off a bit before the end of the day (though I'll probably keep making posts here and there). |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 5:22:44 PM #447 | Someone tell me what this "rule 1" is - clearly I've been out of the game for a bit too long? |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 4:34:52 PM #424 | htaeD posted... well day 4 In my defense, as I said at the time, the day started on Sunday and I work at a church. Sundays are a black hole as far as my activity goes. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 3:18:48 PM #361 | Nanahara715 posted... Bad enough to throw out your town read on me and join your number 1 scumspect MI and your number 2/3 scumspect VI? I admitted that my reads were VERY not strong and I needed to reread the whole game. That whole post that keeps getting thrown around, I admitted were extremely soft reads. I even backed down on MI because he pointed out that I wasn't right about some things in that post regarding him. I decided to revert to my previous gut on you because of the way you acted at the end of Day 4, yes. I shouldn't have even made the post probably but I was struggling to provide content because I was struggling to fully comprehend everything that was going on (hence the reread). |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 3:07:25 PM #345 | Nanahara715 posted... I don't buy this. You looked really bad at the end of Day 4 and I'm not the only person who thought so. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 3:06:55 PM #344 | red13n posted... Vengeful_KBM posted...Also Red telling me to calm down got me to step away for a half an hour but maybe I should do another half hour because this is getting me really upset. I might owe some apologies later. In fairness I've gotten personally attacked a *lot* in mafia. I know it's not personal. Chris and I are still friends, after all. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 3:03:19 PM #338 | Also Red telling me to calm down got me to step away for a half an hour but maybe I should do another half hour because this is getting me really upset. I might owe some apologies later. But probably not because from where I'm sitting Nana is such goddamn obvious scum it's ridiculous. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 3:00:29 PM #335 | I still have to admit though that Nana's play this game is either pretty brilliant or mind-numbingly stupid. I HAVE to believe he is scum because I like giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming they're not stupid. It didn't work with the FFD lynch but I guess I'm an optimist because I think it'll work here anyway. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:59:04 PM #332 | Vengeful_KBM posted... Besides holy shit the "likely town" part of that sentence is talking about Puns. Quoting for extra emphasis |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:58:48 PM #330 | Besides holy shit the "likely town" part of that sentence is talking about Puns. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:58:04 PM #328 | LIKELY IS NOT OBVIOUS. I reread the game once I had new information. I reread the game once I had new information. I reread the game once I had new information. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:57:20 PM #326 | Seriously this is like the fifth time Nana has purposely misquoted me. How are you and supposedly all of your other mason buddies too lazy to think this is an issue, Leo? |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:56:16 PM #322 | I reread the game and saw things to go back to my original read. This is not hard. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:55:50 PM #320 | "I've seen nothing to change my mind back to my original read" does not fucking mean "I've seen nothing to convince me that Nana isn't town." Stop misquoting me, I swear to God. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:53:27 PM #316 | Leo3L posted... Nanahara715 posted...Nana - Town. I've seen nothing to change my mind back to my original read here - likely town Puns saying one of the two of us has to be scum doesn't really change that either, as I have to go with how I feel. He seems to genuine and too earnest in his cluelessness to be anything else (and if you are scum, well, you've played a surprisingly good game so good on you, but you're certainly not my target for today even though you probably expect to be). Where in that does the word "obvious" show up |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:53:05 PM #314 | VeryInsane posted... Jeez this Nana/KBM thing is a mess Do it. Just deal with this first. If you have to go through me so be it, just lynch Nana next for all the lies he's spun the whole goddamn game to try and get me lynched. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:52:27 PM #313 | Nanahara715 posted... ITS NOT ACCIDENTALLY MISLEADING WHEN YOU WERE CALLED OUT ON IT AND (in MI's words) DOUBLED DOWN ON CONTINUING THE FARCE Jesus %$&@ing Christ. ALL I have done on this subject is try to contextualize what I meant by that comment. I was reading the game focusing on the things that confirmed scum had done. The timing of Han's vote was weird and suspicious. That's LITERALLY ALL I was trying to communicate. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:50:32 PM #307 | Nanahara715 posted... 1) You admit that in your detailed reread that you confused votes. Yes. Nanahara715 posted... 2) You admit that in your detailed reread that I didn't have the pressure that you thought I had Yes. Although these two points are literally the same thing, i.e. a single comment that I made. Tangible proof here that you are purposely blowing this out of all proportion. Nanahara715 posted... 3) Day 4 You said "Nana is obviously town to me." This is a lie. Please lynch the scum. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:46:36 PM #303 | It's three hours of reading and notes. The comment was only meant to pertain to the timing of Han's vote which I thought was odd and might say something about Nana. This is FAR from my #1 reason I think Nana is scum, there are three whole damn posts about it back at the beginning of the day. If we're going to keep focusing on an accidentally misleading comment I made, I'm seriously not going to last the day without screaming at everybody. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:45:06 PM #301 | I have admitted that I got Shad and Stan's votes confused. I have also admitted that I thought Nana got more pressure on Day 1. I literally don't know what else you all want from me. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:13:10 PM #269 | And before someone calls this "fake anger" this is frustration with Nana that I have been feeling since Day Fucking One. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:12:25 PM #267 | Anyway. Sorry. Anybody else want to have a conversation? |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:12:08 PM #266 | Like, I'm showing you my raw notes you asshole. As I said before, I edited them into more readable paragraphs. NOT THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE CLEARLY GOING TO CHERRY-PICK EVERY FUCKING THING I SAY. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:09:16 PM #264 | THAT IS NOT "literally word for word" what I posted you fucking liar. Are you paying attention to literally anything around you? Or are you just going to bullheadedly ram forward with these obvious fucking lies? Lynch this fucking scum right now. Seriously how is this purposeful stupidity not obvious to everybody. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:03:08 PM #260 | You can say you think I'm scum if you want but don't you DARE say I'm not putting in the effort. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:02:46 PM #259 | Here. Here are the exact notes I took for the end of Day 1, Nana. TOPIC 3 Death going after dowolf very early Also going after Jeff to try and make him "slip" over knowing about the term "backpedaling" of all things Han pops in briefly to interact with Death and MI Death does an ISO of Han and says he looks better for it - a little friendly back and forth between them Death then ISOs VI and says he looks good too, feeling is not mutual Boko has said I'm obvtown like five times! HanOfTheNekos posted... htaeD posted... Scum Han trying to push suspicion on me earlier than I even remembered, wow. Meanwhile Chris threatens to hurt anyone who votes Nana Han led the lynch on Stan while MI sort of de facto spearheaded the lynch on Nana - in a way that wouldn't happen if they were scummates, at least (**MI/Nana mutually exclusive?**) Han is also trying to throw a lot of suspicion on Red which makes Red look a little better Meanwhile Shad leading the lynch on Puns makes Puns look golden and he will probably die tonight won't he, especially with the fact that Han also jumped on Puns to make him a viable candidate. This also diverted attention from the Nana lynch option at the end of the day - **Nana is looking bad on a reread of the end of D1. Puns seems QUITE clean now that Shad and Han have both flipped scum.** Also MI is putting in a lot of town-looking legwork at the end of the day, compiling posts of easily-accessible information and whatnot. TOPIC 4 Worth noting that the people who waited to vote until the end are all town. Scum was leading the D1 lynches, outside of the Nana lynch which was being led by MI (probable town) and myself. Meanwhile Nana goes after me hard for "believing the exchanges between [Nana] and FFD were faked" which still strikes me as a weird and useless line of questioning, after this VERY clear answer: Vengeful_KBM posted... Nanahara715 posted...True/false I'm your number 1 scum read Nana looking worse and worse. Then he accuses me of "refusing" to take a stance directly after I said the above (which was literally taking a stance). This is still pissing me off on a reread. Then dowolf almost gets lynched D1 by MI/VI/puns/Leo. Interesting how all of them are still alive. Don't know what that means though. People threatening to B8 Special Shad (which would have been a much better outcome than any of the other main choices at the time): Red, VI Other than bitching at me, Nana does nothing of substance towards the end of the day, probably because he knows the main lynch candidates by that point (FFD/Puns/Dowolf) are all town and there's no reason for him to intervene outside of a couple token posts |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 2:00:11 PM #257 | (Of course if you're scum - which you are - that doesn't apply and I understand why you're manipulating my words so much!) |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 1:59:34 PM #256 | Nanahara715 posted... Furthermore would argue that KBM indicating she's made a mistake after claiming to be detailed would be further evidence she didn't even write her own post, something I postulated earlier. I've never played with KBM before but she's certainly never given me the impression she's capable of doing this. At this point if you are actually town I don't think I ever want to sign up for a game with you again. Fuck you for saying this, you little shit. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/23/17 1:23:41 AM #137 | Nanahara715 posted... KBM: Probably also scum based on how she's misconstruing and making stuff up. She claims that "Nana has suspected me all game and done nothing", when she's done the same thing. Claims that Puns/Shad were covering for me day 1, but that's not true when you go back and read both the games and the votals, even if I were scum. So let me just respond to this once and for all; I don't think I need to go wading through the archives again for this really. - I'm not misconstruing anything or making anything up. If either one of us is doing this, it's you. - When I say you've "done nothing" I specifically mean with your vote. Which you haven't. And you haven't addressed this any of the times I've brought it up, either. - I never claimed Puns was doing anything, Puns is town. You're getting wrapped up in your own lies. Han is the one who in hindsight cast a vote that may have been partially to counter the pressure that was mounting on you at the time. The pressure was NOT all in votes - a lot of people were talking about how bad you looked at the very same time. This is what I have been trying to make clear. The votals are secondary to this. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 5:10:08 PM #89 | VeryInsane posted... KBM, Nana. Both of you thought I was scum yesterday, and now you both think I am Town. Why? In my big wall last topic I mentioned that Chris' chessboards (and the subsequent revelation that Chris was scum) had you and Puns as necessarily an opposite alignment. I have no reason to believe Chris was telling the truth about this - in fact I think he probably wasn't. I trust Puns quite a bit based on early-game circumstances, so the fact that I suspect the two of you are the same alignment works in your favor. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 5:06:52 PM #86 | Every time I have interacted with Nana he has misconstrued what I meant. At this point it HAS to be intentional. My interactions with everybody else have been much more straightforward. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 5:05:27 PM #83 | Nanahara715 posted... Nanahara715 posted...Cont from previous You are just ignoring everything that I'm saying aren't you. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 5:02:12 PM #79 | Leo3L posted... I can't think what scum role is powerful enough to balance this out and yet not powerful enough to have any apparent effect on the game. I wouldn't have ever guessed your role or Scare's role would pop up in this game and leave any semblance of balance behind, but there you are. I choose to trust our host until we have solid reason not to. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 5:01:10 PM #75 | Leo3L posted... Refresh my memory on why you think MI is town? bottom line it for me, please. I don't necessarily 100% believe he is town but it feels like some of us are not even considering that possibility when it's in fact a very clear possibility, role meta be damned. When I read back through the game, I felt like I was reading an earnest, town MI. I'm not willing to throw that aside because his role may or may not coexist with a seemingly brokenly powerful one. I've seen this absolutely tank towns before. I have to stick with Nana as the best option for today until something changes. "Too much power" is not enough of a reason for me to lynch someone who I think has been helpful and not scummy, even though I freely admit that MI is a good enough player to pull it off. It's not like we've only got one scum left to find. |
| Topic | Let's tell a story three words at a time ^.^ :D *_* @_@ xD |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:56:57 PM #171 | General Sergei Gurlukovich, |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:53:07 PM #71 | Leo3L posted... Vengeful_KBM posted...I do think it's pretty silly that seemingly no one on the mason team is entertaining the idea that Death and MI are both telling the truth. It's bold almost to the point of stupidity to throw all previous reads down the drain thanks to one piece of information when we don't even know what roles scum has left. Your role is weird as shit, who's to say they don't have a weird as shit powerful role left too? |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:51:52 PM #69 | You're being pedantic in an attempt to comically misconstrue my point. I didn't say the lynch on you was ever going to be a success, I'm literally just talking about the specific timing of votes - especially Han's. I may have mentally transposed Stan and Shad's votes at some point, admittedly. Their names look very similar. I suppose you think that means they should have been modkilled for confusing us. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:46:52 PM #66 | Vengeful_KBM posted... Maybe they're both telling the truth and Leo is telling the truth and it's a Nana/Red scum team. This has been my feeling today. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:43:39 PM #61 | I do think it's pretty silly that seemingly no one on the mason team is entertaining the idea that Death and MI are both telling the truth. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:38:13 PM #53 | Gee, it would be nice to hear Boko's take though. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:35:51 PM #51 | Nanahara715 posted... "Confirmed scum" are Chris, Han, and Shad, and none of them moved to Puns at the end of the day from me or shifted focus away from me. As I said earlier, the timing of the push on Puns by Shad and Han took a lot of the attention off of your lynch. That's a documented fact that you can look up in the archives. |
| Topic | Let's tell a story three words at a time ^.^ :D *_* @_@ xD |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:29:09 PM #164 | will make anyone |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:27:00 PM #47 | All these CAPITAL LETTERS also seem rather DISINGENUOUS SOMEHOW. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 4:24:33 PM #45 | I sincerely don't see how MI is any scummier than Nana. Possibly because I refuse to engage in role meta when a host has specifically said not to. I've seen these situations crash and burn before, and Nana has just looked atrocious the whole game. I can go back and forth on the roleblocker question and MI vs. Death. Maybe they're both telling the truth and Leo is telling the truth and it's a Nana/Red scum team. But the one thing I feel sure about is Nana (who hasn't voted for me in the entire game which shocked me upon rereading). Nana's kept his hands off of pretty much every dirty situation, and confirmed scum making a display of moving the focus from his lynch to Puns' at the end of D1 also continues to really bother me. I don't want to lynch someone today over role meta, I've just seen it screw town over so many times even when something was "obvious" like people are saying MI is. I don't feel comfortable ignoring the fact that a reread made me feel better about him. |
| Topic | A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 9 - Egg, I Dreamed that I Was Old |
| Vengeful_KBM 06/22/17 1:39:34 PM #437 | I am inclined to agree that Scare's role as Leo is saying it sounds SUPER broken. Are you lying again Leo y/n |
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