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Don't think Pokemon are going to be too much of a help against a full sized god-like dinosaur with fire powers
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There's now a growing push from the psychos on the right saying Cruz couldn't possibly have been the shooter, and that he was set up by both the school and the FBI. Their narrative is that he has the mind of a twelve year old, and the school had a "popular kid" call him and tell him to bring his gun in to help with the drill (???) and he just oh so eagerly did it because he's a good kid. Then the FBI apparently shot everybody and then caught him after he "fled in terror"

I never want to go on Twitter again
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

To be fair she IS,infact, the second white girl in a row

Weren't Ana and Sombra back to back
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Ashethan posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Are you a non-American?

No, I'm an American. I think it's stupid that a department store sells guns. Target doesn't sell guns, and their name is fucking Target.

A lot of department stores that have bigger hunting/fishing sections sell guns, or at one time have sold guns

This isn't anything new
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TheRock1525 posted...

Nakamura going 50/50 with English.

Ok.

Is this a comment on the match or his promos?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171101/1821deb5d8deeb7477f26547e71b327b.jpg
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TheRock1525 posted...

Nakamura going 50/50 with English.

Ok.

Everybody knows English gets a 500% increase to all of his stats on Rusev Day!
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wg64Z posted...

That Jetsonz one is also mind blowingly blatant. Wow.

Yeah, since the song was never actually released, the guy just reused it for Sonic 3, pretty much. But then the song actually surfaced many years later.
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wg64Z posted...

I've heard that Sonic 3 songs sound like MJ songs, but I'm not really hearing it?

Granted, that's not an actual Michael Jackson song, but a lot of the songs use his style. This one just happens to literally be an existing song.

EDIT: To clarify the connection, Brad Buxer worked with both The Jetzons and Michael Jackson

Also stuff like this:

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As somebody who doesn't follow MMA, I've definitely heard Jones's name enough to know he's a big deal, atleast. So I'd assume he's fairly mainstream.
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Yeah, they're massively dropping the ball, here.

EC made a lot of people realize that they're always going to have Braun be second fiddle at best to Reigns, and that's gonna kill popularity
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I'm so torn now because I don't like Reigns, but they just had him basically say my main problem with Brock as champ

They kayfabe'd me
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Oh look Sasha's still face

Between her and Roman, WWE sure knows how to book 'em
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Zero interest in Wrestlemania at this point
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MZero11 posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

That's not really something that can be done in practice, though. Like, a ref can't go "I dunno if we blew that call enough to let you challenge it."

I mean they have to do that in the last two minutes in the NFL anyway >_> same concept

...Not really the same thing. >_>

Official review only in the last two minutes is just... No challenges, period. Not deciding if a challenge can happen on a case by case basis.
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That's not really something that can be done in practice, though. Like, a ref can't go "I dunno if we blew that call enough to let you challenge it."
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Pokewars posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

That's the thing. The right and the NRA are going "It's this guy's fault, he should have went in, blah blah blah" about a guy that was trained to do it

How many teachers are really going to want all of that additional responsibility

There is a signficant difference between a trained officer whose job it is to actually seek out and stop the shooter and a teacher who might be holed up in a classroom full of kids and at least being able to defend themselves if a shooter were to enter that room. To even have the chance at a defence vs. being completely helpless. What would someone want in that situation?

There is also a significant difference between a trained officer engaging a gunman and a teacher that took a few hours at a range. Arming teachers is putting the weight of potentially having to make the same decision the trained officer does on their shoulders. They're going to be expected to step up in situations where they shouldn't.
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That's the thing. The right and the NRA are going "It's this guy's fault, he should have went in, blah blah blah" about a guy that was trained to do it

How many teachers are really going to want all of that additional responsibility
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KamikazePotato posted...

I don't mind the police not entering the building. It is, however, frustrating that yet another example of 'good guy with a gun' not panning out as advertised is going to be entirely ignored by NRA types. That probably came out more bitter than it was meant to be, but yeah.

They're actually not ignoring it at all.

They're just focusing on the "guy" part of it and going "It was the wrong guy. The RIGHT guy with a gun would've stopped it!"
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TheKnightOfNee posted...

Punnyz posted...

Pilaf, Shu, and Mai combo lets go

I would drop whoever necessary if it means I can get Mai on my team

Anyways, I think I'm just gonna start posting DLC rumors for random games, because every random text listing rumor I see gets people riled up and they all run with it.

This one isn't random. It's from a guy who has leaked four of the DLC characters for this game, as well as stuff like TMNT for Injustice and characters for Soul Calibur VI.

That's why people give it more attention.
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swordz9 posted...

Highly doubt Kale will be the main with Broly being in and them basically being identical.

Half of the characters in the game are "basically identical"

I mean, we're getting another Goku and Vegeta, already
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Don't worry, you don't need my help on that. I'll let you do you
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Typically when you're arguing something that isn't really up to dozens of possible interpretations, and they say "Most agree with me," they're also saying you're in the minority

Pretty nitpicky
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Lasa: "*Most extreme interpretation possible*"
Others: "I think you're in the minority on that."
Lasa: "How do you know? Do you know how many people there are?"

lol
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/966741933447139329

Trump has finally left me speechless

He thinks we might need to put some sort of rating system...on movies

I think my brain is broken now

The sad part is that the first paragraph is great
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/anamariecox/status/966754857838350336

I think the Democrats are the party of Lisa Simpson, and the Rrpublicans are, happily, the party of Homer and Bart and Maggie and Marge. Ted Cruz off to a great start here. #CPAC2018

What a massive, MASSIVE self-own

Nah I'd call that owning the Dems

Don't worry, nobody thinks you're not a Homer
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Well, I usually don't attack Vlado anymore, but that's different because Vlado is typically arguing things as fact with the intent to get responses in the first place.

You attack people just trying to explain the mindset of a belief for no reason, and that's why it's unfair

"Why do you believe this?"
"Well, because..."
"NO FACTS HAHAHA"

You basically egg them into it so you can get your little tirade in

Hence why I say you have an agenda
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

it's almost like you think that pointing out how little we can trust the bible as a source is "cheating" or something, and that i should only be allowed to criticize the bible by pointing out flaws in the text itself. i get this line of thinking when we're talking about, say wikipedia - i always hate it when people go "LOL WIKIPEDIA" when trying to discredit an argument, when the vast majority of information on the site is actually demonstrably correct. but... the bible isn't wikipedia. i think it's perfectly valid for me to put tons of question marks besides pretty much every verse in the bible. i don't see what's "unfair" about it at all.

I'm saying why do you feel the desire to always have to attack it to begin with. Typically, people aren't actually arguing with you and going "Yes, you must believe this because X." They're going "Well, I believe X because" or "They believe Y because" and then you feel the need to go on this whole "NO FACTS" tirade which makes it look like you've got this agenda

You feel the need to somehow prove why people can't or shouldn't believe it
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The funniest thing about that is that the student's twitter literally says he was going to LA for vacation at that time, and his own Youtube channel has a self-made video of him and his friend talking about how they were going to be interviewed by that local news channel over whatever that incident was.

But clearly, this actor did all this in August of 2017 to make this shooting more believa-... wait
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWimxLaXUAAsht_?format=jpg&name=small

Man these people really think the Deep State are IDIOTS

"The masterminds of the Deep State are controlling this country, but they can't figure out Youtube. IT ALL MAKES SENSE"
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I'm not the one going around telling people what they can and can't believe. You are.

cite the post where i say that people can't believe something.

Well, for one, you tried to tell Moogle that he couldn't believe "Jesus is God" if he wasn't following oneness pentecostalism. You tried to say "Jesus is God" couldn't be said of the Trinity.

I'm gonna lay my argument out, here, because we're not getting anywhere.

If you believe the whole thing is hogwash, then by all means, believe it's hogwash. I won't stop you, I won't argue.

However, if you're going to use a quote from the Bible to try to support an argument, then you are opening your argument to be criticized based on the context surrounding the quote. The context surrounding the sword quote highly suggests that it shouldn't be taken literally, and since you were the one to use the quote as part of your argument in the first place, trying to say "Well, the context shouldn't be considered because X and Y" is unfair. You opened the can of worms.

Likewise, since somebody used the "Turn the other cheek" quote, you have the right to present context that suggests it shouldn't be taken literally, if you believe the context does so.

I'm not arguing that you can't believe Jesus overall was more aggressive. What I'm saying is that if you're going to use that quote as evidence, then I'm going to disagree with your argument based on the context since you opened the book.

What you tend to do is tell people that believing certain quotes or passages is "non-sensical" based on the fact that there's no 100% definite way to know for sure what is and isn't to be taken literally, and then when they argue their logic, whether it's with context, other passages, etc., you usually go "Nope, that's nonsense. You don't know that." That's an unfair way to argue, because instead of presenting any evidence or context as to why their interpretation is wrong, you're simply using their lack of tangible facts to discredit them for apparently no real reason, when the whole thing is based on belief to begin with.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

also SEP, when it comes to the "turn the other cheek" verse, how do you know that THAT should be taken literally? you could easily argue something like "no, jesus obviously didn't mean that you should do nothing when a guy is beating the shit out of you, he just means that generally speaking it's better to take a more pacifist stance." hell, i'm sure i've seen christians argue exactly that. you seem awfully certain on what should be taken literally and figuratively when i don't think there's reason for that much certainty.

I'm not the one going around telling people what they can and can't believe. You are. People state why they believe something, give evidence, and you attempt to go "No, you can't take that literally," or "No, that's nonsense."

How about just letting people air out what they believe instead of feeling like you have to somehow prove them wrong. Spoilers: You're not suddenly going to make somebody go "Oh man, I've been wrong all this time!"
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And I'm saying that "i think a more aggressive interpretation is just as valid as a "turn the other cheek" intepretation," is stupid because of the context, which you shouldn't ignore if you're going to use any quote for any argument, period.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/966446159584813056

LOLOLOLOL

I bet he rehearsed those lines

Must be a Soros plant
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, this is where i'll disagree. we know very little about the historical jesus and if you try to use the gospels as a primary source to back up claims about him, you'll get laughed out of any serious history class. it's worth pointing out that jesus had been long dead when the earliest of the gospels (mark) was written, with all of these super detailed accounts of what jesus supposedly said.

So you think people can't draw interpretations based on context

So why does that mean you can just cherry pick a line and go "Look, this supports my argument?"

You're literally going "lmao you used quotes from Matthew 10" while simultaneously going "Look at this quote from Matthew 10."
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Also, you clearly do have an interpretation because you tried to use it as evidence of something twice, so...

EDIT: Basically, what I'm saying is that you seem to go out of your way an awful lot to tell people "You can't say that because we don't know for sure!" and/or "Having X interpretation but not Y interpretation is nonsensical!" to the point where you're clearly trying to discredit what they believe for who knows what reason
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

How about you sell me on why I should take your interpretation over his

i don't have an interpretation.

i'm saying we CAN'T KNOW what should be taken literally and figuratively when it comes to jesus' words.

but last time i tried to tell you this you accused me of "having a personal vendetta against christians," so...

In some cases we can't, right.

But when there's context from quotes surrounding it, we can have a pretty damn good guess.

Like, I'm not accusing you of having a vendetta because you're saying we can't know for sure.

I'm accusing you of having a vendetta because no matter what logic somebody presents to you, you sit there with your fingers in your ears and go "No, no, no, it's nonsensical, you're nonsensical, lalala!"

That and you do random shit like trying to start stuff with Moogle over "Jesus is God"
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Persona 5
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

You shouldn't take it literally because none of the other verses actually have him saying "Yeah, go be violent." Context sorta matters. And the context supports what France interpreted.

does france also take into account that the bible is several millennia old, has been retranslated tons of times, and has had stuff removed from it as well as added to it??

How about you sell me on why I should take your interpretation over his when, earlier in Matthew 10, he's literally telling the disciples that they're going to be scorned, attacked, and so on, and they should just accept it and move on and continue preaching. Like, why would it go from that to "btw VIOLENCE"
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Can you point to where he actually says "Beat the shit out of people?"

he doesn't, but he does say "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (that's just one example, btw - at several other points in the bible he also says aggressive stuff.)

i guess i shouldn't take any of that literally because r.t. france says so, though.

You shouldn't take it literally because none of the other verses actually have him saying "Yeah, go be violent." Context sorta matters. And the context supports what France interpreted.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

which part of what I said does Jesus not say? That he doesn't have to do the stuff he tells humans to do?

he doesn't say "turn the other cheek but obviously this doesn't apply to me i can beat the shit out of people because i'm jesus lol."

Can you point to where he actually says "Beat the shit out of people?"
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

really? would you say "i am my arm"?

If somebody pokes you in the arm and you want them to stop, do you not say "Don't poke me?"
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There's no context in the verses before or after it that suggest it literally means violence, anyway
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

the trinity is the belief that god consists of god the father, jesus and the holy spirit. that's a different belief than the belief that god and jesus are literally the same being - that's the belief of oneness pentecostalism.

you don't have to lecture me on christianity, i've studied it at a university.

The saying "Jesus is God" doesn't have to mean they're literally the same being. Saying "Jesus is God" is also correct as far as believing in the Trinity is concerned, because all three are God.
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R. T. France explains the verse, in context with the subsequent verse 35: "The sword Jesus brings is not here military conflict, but, as vv. 3536 show, a sharp social division which even severs the closest family ties. Jesus speaks here, as in the preceding and following verses, more of a division in mens personal response to him."

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Seph is a guy who literally goes to "You're autistic" every time somebody disagrees with him

You are definitely expecting too much from him.
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