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"We're all just small-time actors on Junkina's stage." - Teddy Roosevelt

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Damn, I'm so behind on watching videos. I'd feel bad if I just skipped to the current one, though.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Okay, caught up to Grog Hill. Good job getting the Chaos Blade.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

I was playing the PSP version lately and he didn't try using it either. Maybe the Zodiac compat with the enemies was bad or something.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Finished the Goland battle. Was wondering if you'd MP Break Olan to stop him from casting Death all the time, haha.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Finished S4 of 24 last night, so I'm gonna try to catch up today.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Gonna bump this.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Damn, I still need to watch the Draclau battle and the stuff that comes afterwards. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Maybe Rafa'll roll Catch or Blade Grasp. Hell, she may have a Robe of Lords like other special units. I think she can equip robes, anyway.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Okay, got up to the Lionel gate battle with the ultimate turtling Elixir knight. Wow...that was sad. Just another reason for Math Skill Zombies! At the very least, it should make Item users waste times chugging holy potions.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Okay, I caught up to Golgorand. Getting that ROL broken sucked. =(

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Damn, you're making too much progress. Gonna have to watch at 1.5x speed from now on. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Whew, caught up to about that swamp past Lionel. Lots of good drops from dead bodies (Cachusha, Maximillian) and, the best part of all, seeing Mustadio Hamedo a random gun user. You rarely see stuff like that in normal play.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Damn, I still need to watch starting from the first Mustadio battle.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

You're all the way to Bariaus Valley? Damn, that's some good progress.

BTW, Bariaus Valley is also probably my fave map in the entire game. I love grinding there, because when you enter from Golgorand, you can make enemies on one side go into 2-depth water and be unable to do anything.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

We got some free Flash Hats, so that's good at least. Watched up to Araguay so far.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

I'm still catching up on the videos. Good job getting through Zeakden with all Algus' goodies. I was surprised to see Rad, Lavian and Alicia have so much good stuff, though. I wonder if it was randomized or that's the actual stuff they had in the first fight (I think we skipped that, didn't we?).

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Oh yeah, that's what it was. It takes a long time for Angel Rings to be available, though, so it's just something to remember for chapter four or something. Might be useful against Muramasa spam.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Do Phoenix Downs even work on dead zombies? I want to say no, but it's been a long-ass time since I thought about some of that stuff. Revive and Raise definitely don't, and Reraise probably doesn't either. (I think you can Equip Change onto Angel Rings to cancel Death Sentence, though, right?)

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Definitely try Math Skill Zombie if things don't pan out. Even if someone has Item or something, it could be a good way to make the enemy waste time, especially if they roll Auto-Potion (they probably have X-Potions, right?). Basically the same strategy Miluda tried repeatedly.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Hmm, almost pulled that off. It was bad luck having so much reviving on the enemy's side. Maybe try charming enemies once Wiegraf's sword is taken and see if that works? Thought that's what you were going to do instead of attacking the chocobo with Ramza. I guess you thought you had Two Swords instead of Two Hands.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

But it's not about winning; it's about winning AND stealing swag. I guess we could try and see what random human battles are up in chapter two, but it's always good to get nice stuff immediately (presumably why you were speed-breaking Wiegraf). Can't pass up Maximillians and Genji stuff when they appear -- multiples of those would kick ass.

Curious to see how Zeakden goes. Algus had Auto-Potion and a crossbow in the original, but I'm sure that'll change somewhat. Hopefully Math Skill secondaries are up to RNG, 'cause this is a good map to stick a Dancer in back on.

Bad_Mojo posted...

I hope our units start with some amazing items starting Chapter 2. I wonder what Algus and Gaffy will bring, if anything.

I'd laugh if Gafgarion had generic trash, since the creators knew anyone doing this version was just going to strip his equipment anyway. I doubt they'd do him AND Agrias that dirty, but y'never know.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Good job getting that Robe of Lords. Miluda's fight was dicey, but Wiegraf's looks a lot easier, as long as you take/break his weapon early (hoping he doesn't role Maintenance again) and kill Boco quickly. I know monks will probably revive Boco, so maybe inflict Zombie on it with Math Skill?

Dancing in the corner, while sad in real life, works pretty well at the windmill. Thought for sure Junkina would be Earth Slashed, but nothing.

Bad_Mojo posted...

It's going to be hard to strategize when units bring shit like Blood Suck and the game doesn't even tell me, lol

Yeah, that was pretty wonky. At least it didn't inflict Blood Suck, too, or that'd be an instant reset, pretty much.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

I started getting 108 Gems as early as Chapter 2 in WOTL (probably around Lv40 as stealables), but I dunno how this one'll go. Anyway, now that I finished S1 of 24, I'm gonna dig into these vids.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Gonna bring this higher in my AMP so I can watch it later. Binging 24 right now. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

You're playing War of the Lions, too, you mean? I've put in thousands of hours in my lifetime doing FFT, and after a 10-year break or so, I got engrossed and played for hours and hours. It's just so fun micromanaging squads and battles. I think they upgraded the max unit capacity from the PS1 version, so I might not have to kick anyone out. (Accidentally sent Boco packing...oops.)

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Yeah, it gives off some depressing vibes. Maybe not "a forgotten tree is the only living thing in this old strip mall" vibes, but pretty close. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Huh, I thought the garden was going to be the entire dungeon, not a new area at the end of the Valley's boss arena.



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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

YugiNoob posted...

At long last, capitalist cat :3

Yeah, that one took a long time to recruit. I think even as a best-case scenario, it 2-3 weeks.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Haven't given up on this quite yet. Might need to tear myself away from War of the Lions before I can get back.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Zombie also pierced Transparent, so maybe this strategy ain't all its cracked up to be. Not sure what else we can try besides just murdering Miluda with Flare/Holy, but that'd be pretty lame. The Windmill battle has a similar setup with plenty of chicks for possible Chantage/etc. action, though, plus that little corner where dancers can hide and no one (presumably) can get them. I'm curious if Wiegraf has Math Skill, too, because that would be a sad trend. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Damn, that was a rough one to watch. A lot of times things went well, like frogging that knight twice in a row, and having all the Wizards miss unfrogging her, only for Sunken State to fail time and time again. Didn't Transparent actually expire at the end there and get the chemist killed? What a bummer, 'cause I think this was the one where everyone survived the longest.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

K i r o v r e p o r t i n g




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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

I have some other RPGs to play, so I kinda just want to continue and finish.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Ahh, okay. I wasn't sure if the river's flow would make the VOTK more verdant or something like it was in the past.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

I want to play, but now I'm getting sidetracked with FFT! Anyone know how many more dungeons I have left? I cleared the clogged river in Dana's flashback, so now the Valley of the Kings should be improved or something. Not sure what that'll do for the interior.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Topic inspired me to go through WOTL, too. Up to Zirekile Falls or thereabouts. Is my memory super rusty or did they take away the ability to see what skills the opponents have learned? I think early on I could do that, but when I've been checking lately, it hasn't worked. Like, if I kill a unit and see if I want to rez them, I can get to the status page where it says they're under 'Dead' status, but can't continue past that.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

No prob, yo.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Shotgunnova posted...

I demand an answer.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Yeah, I noticed you'd power-levelled a little to get money for Hi-Potions.

It was weird how some units were rolling monster attacks as their secondaries. One had Shiva in this series of fights, there were a few knights earlier that had that Bomb projectile, etc. I'd say it's bad, but being able to erase an entire secondary skillset for something like Shiva (which is still MP-limited, IIRC), isn't always a bad idea.


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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Is all of Ys 9 that dour?

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Yeah, the goal would be to get the Sing/Dance people transparent after acting to let them (hopefully) do their routines in peace. Then, it's just a matter of getting the other people transparent and just waiting until they're buffed -- or the opponent's speed bottoms out -- and pouncing on the opportunity. It'd be a long wait, probably, but this isn't a good map for miming, so...yeah. It'd be nice to work Ramza going around and curing with Auto-Potion/Golem or something, but with Zombie prowling, I'm not sure how all this would pan out. We especially don't want extra Math Skill, Draw Out, etc. stuff, so you might have to save scum until things are a little easier and hope it all works out.

Bad_Mojo posted...

I also 100% forgot I had a gun until I went to Attack with the Chemist, lol. So using that might be good with Speed Break. Someone on here wanted a Gun anyways, I think. They're bringing Spears, so Jump is soon on the table. I f***ing LOVE Jump

Yeah, my first character was a gun oracle. If I'd known how devilish these fights would really be, I'd have picked something more practical, lol. That build seems to have tanked (although Yin-Yang + Dance is still lit).

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Well, it'll be interesting to see if we can do this one without any casualties. Being able to self-trigger Sunken State could be the key, but if you wanna try an Accumulate/Yell blitz, maybe it'll work.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

We don't have the height or numbers advantage, so you might have to win by gaming the system. Like, having everyone with Sunken State, using the transparency (I don't think Math Skill hits them? Not sure.) to buff the team or speed-break the opponent, then attacking when the enemy can't mount a defense. Either that or gun right for Miluda, but I don't think we want to go through yet another human battle without getting any good drops/steals, especially on enemies that can have a Maximillian/Chantage/etc.

Is there an easy way to trigger Sunken State en masse that can be done quickly? Geomancy, maybe?

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Man, this is quite a stumbling block. We lasted pretty long this time, though. Shame we can't buy Holy Waters, though. (If Ramza got petrified, maybe that would fix Zombie when he's cured? I forget.)

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Okay, I gotta get some progress on this. I don't want to go into March still playing this. :P

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Auto-Potion worked out pretty well that time. If we're going to keep getting 1-2 people with Math Skill, maybe try giving it to everyone with a lot of Hi-Potions. (Not sure if there's a limit to how many you can buy in this.)

And yeah, that time mage that was hitting three times harder than a knight...lmao.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

Yeahhhhhhhhhh



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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

You had a good idea using autobattle to learn the best Math Skill combo to use, but then Phil ran into the thick of things and died quickly -- oops. Maybe give Delita Item to rez someone on his turns, since he usually doesn't do anything useful anyway? We must have some spare Phoenix Downs to use.

Also, since most enemies have status blockers, maybe try Slow Dance from the outset to see if that works better.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame

No worries, no worries.

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Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends
And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame