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TopicContrapoints new video just dropped
Samurontai
08/11/21 7:21:31 PM
#38
TopicI get back to civilization to find out that Nina Turner lost her election in OH?
Samurontai
08/06/21 2:02:53 PM
#16
shockthemonkey posted...
If I rightfully point out that a PAC made up lies about her and your respond with this, youre a dishonest anti semite

You cant just post stuff like this without sourcing it

Also dont call me an anti-Semite when Turner is calling the Jewish PAC donations dark money lmfaoooo

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 2:01:10 PM
#197
Umbreon posted...
We've had the discussion for police reform for decades. People didn't care then, because police wasn't hurting them.

The 'optics' is irrelevant. Human right issues shouldn't be addressed based on whatever or not it's popular.

Optics are incredibly important lmao. If none of the people who voted for you want something, and you do it anyway, it will not end well for you or your city.

This has been incredibly noticeable for the last decade

Also I love how youre trying to claim that nothing has changed over the last decade, or at least are insinuating that.

Youre just wrong

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:59:05 PM
#195
CanuckCowboy posted...
You're fucking adorable bud.

Please stop, my sides lmfao

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TopicKY State Deputy killed in ambush
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:58:16 PM
#4
PoundGarden posted...
How do they figure he was targeted when, if I'm understanding this right, nothing about his attire/vehicle would have indicated he was a deputy, he would've looked like any other security guard right?

If it were a targeted killing, they probably knew where he worked, thats how most targeted killings work iirc. You find out where they work, live, socialize, etc.

Also its alleged, no one knows for sure yet


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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:55:25 PM
#193
Gwynevere posted...
Hard disagree, that's a mentality that holds us back. Plus having actual discussion about it is the only way for it to enter the public consciousness and become more popular in the first place

You are correct. Discussion has to be made before things are actually implemented. Defund the police is incredibly unpopular now because people were trying to do it the other way around.

As of now, it definitely wouldnt work, because most people are just against it. It has horrible phrasing, and just awful optics to most people, according to the data. And apparently cities dont even know how to properly implement it.

Discussion has to be had before trying to implement something like resource reallocation

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:48:51 PM
#37
hockeybub89 posted...
Imagine you have a race team. You have far more money and resources to spend on your car than anyone else in the field. And yet 10 teams that have decent, but not amazing funding are blowing you out of the water. Can you really say you ran well because you beat the rest of the field? They had no chance of winning and are just happy the wheels didn't fall off.

I think the Nina Turner Ohio run would be a better example, but I get your drift sure

This is literally just semantics though at this point, but I can accept your view. Sure, ranking 11 out of 11 while being the wealthiest probably isnt good.

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TopicChina: U.S. Army created COVID
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:42:03 PM
#52
Is anyone surprised that the country that is actively genociding like two groups of people is laying blame at another countries feet?

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:39:33 PM
#31
SevenTenths posted...
And yet it's the one where the wealthiest go for their healthcare.

Pretty sure most healthcare rankings like this take into account inequality as while as quality

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:37:57 PM
#29
pikachupwnage posted...
The study didn't measure the other 184 countries you know.

Also being better then others doesn't even mean you are good or even acceptable.

Yeah I know, if it did wed be 22 out of 195. Which still isnt bad tbh. Definitely could and should be better though


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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:35:43 PM
#27
Shezarr posted...
Sam im a leftist I swear I just constantly spout center-right talking points like a Broseph-lite urontai


Samurontai posted...
Well at that point the argument isnt even whos healthcare is better, its just an argument of Are EU countries better than America which I think most people would agree that, yes in a lot of ways they are lol

Its just a weird ranking system imo

Yes, definitely a center right talking point, that most European countries are better than America

Also, I never claimed to be a leftist

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:34:41 PM
#25
Solar_Crimson posted...
We're doing worse than some of those other countries as well.

Yep, Id still argue that 22 out of 195 isnt bad

Could be better though

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:33:57 PM
#22
Intro2Logic posted...
We're 11 out of 11. This study does not measure how many of the other 184 are producing better outcomes.

Well at that point the argument isnt even whos healthcare is better, its just an argument of Are EU countries better than America which I think most people would agree that, yes in a lot of ways they are lol

Its just a weird ranking system imo

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TopicIs professional bodybuilding just sponsored dysmorphia positivity
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:31:30 PM
#9
Excessive body building can be incredibly detrimental to the body, especially at later stages in life

But just a regular bodybuilder? Nah

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:29:43 PM
#18
Intro2Logic posted...
It does when we outspend the ten countries above us. And while only 11 countries are measured in this study, would you be so certain that we're doing better than Japan or South Korea, or Finland or Denmark?


11 out of 195 in no situation is bad though, unless youre talking about it in the reverse or something

It definitely could be better though

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:28:54 PM
#17
pikachupwnage posted...
A bunch of weird, random shit


If you think being number 11 out of 195 is bad, then youre just being dishonest

Youre real argument should be No, its not. But it could and should definitely be better, which I agree with

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:24:50 PM
#10
monkmith posted...
are we richer then those other 10 countries?

Probably, but 11th out of 195 isnt bad

Solar_Crimson posted...
Not surprised.

But you should expect much better from a very rich first world country, especially one that prides itself as being "the greatest country on Earth".

Sure, but in a truly utopian paradise we wouldnt need police or prisons or jobs or anything

Being rich =\= being the best, and I never claimed it did

My claim is that being 11th out of 195 is pretty good

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:22:43 PM
#191
Gwynevere posted...
You're more interested in arguing what's popular over what actually works.

Yes, because that was the initial argument lmao

Gwynevere posted...
The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

Thats what my argument in that thread was about lmao. My argument was that defund the police was incredibly unpopular, even amongst democrats

I know itd work, but theres no point in having a discussion about what would work when its incredibly unpopular to begin with

Taking all the guns away from US citizens by force would also probably work to reduce crime. Doesnt mean it will happen, because its incredibly unpopular

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TopicNew report ranks US dead last in health care among richest countries
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:19:36 PM
#3
Last in 11th place doesnt seem that bad being there are nearly 200 hundred countries in the world

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:18:12 PM
#188
Will_VIIII posted...
What a

Itll be okay buddy, I promise you. I would give you a psychiatrist recommendation but our commune hasnt worked hard enough so we are low on funds rn

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:14:29 PM
#187
Gwynevere posted...
I can't believe you actually want to do this again lol

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/activists-want-to-defund-how-do-other-countries- curb-police-excesses/article_363c1712-f8e7-52ce-85cf-394e786e35a1.html

America spends far less on social programs than most of the 37 advanced countries that make up the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. But it spends more per capita on policing than any other country except Luxembourg, and at 5.3% the U.S. ranks first in spending as a percent of total government expenditures.

And American police officers are significantly less trained than their counterparts in other nations, and way more likely to use force, all too often with deadly results.

So yes, it's already a closed case proven by other countries that we can reduce police spending if we also reroute the funds to improved social programs.

Thats not arguing against anything I said, literally at all.

Here, lets try to get back on topic before you start moving the goalposts like you usually do.

We are talking about the popularity behind it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/07/usa-today-ipsos-poll-just-18-support-defund-police-movement/4599232001/

Only 18% of respondents supported the movement known as "defund the police," and 58% said they opposed it. Though white Americans (67%) and Republicans (84%) were much more likely to oppose the movement, only 28% of Black Americans and 34% of Democrats were in favor of it.


poll from last year

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:06:14 PM
#184
Gwynevere posted...
The whole thread where you were calling for increased police presence in cities, then abandoned it when the data proved you wrong lol

Ohh, the topic where you couldnt get over the fact that most black people want a local police presence, and most (dem) cities who were planning on implementing a defund the police policy, ended up 180ing. Iirc, that topic was entirely demoted to semantics over whether or not these cities actually implemented anything (which I later proved that some indeed did, and were backtracking it)

Defunding the police isnt even popular on the left, so sorry. Next?

Edit: New tag

I feel like the dishonest ones like you would be delegated to hard labor tbh

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:03:18 PM
#180
Will_VIIII posted...
Well for the record no, my parents did not pay for my house. I budgeted and saved to make a down payment.

It took you this long to google how to buy a house. Im truly embarrassed for you

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:01:58 PM
#178
Gwynevere posted...
That dude actually thinks he's fooling people. He'll drop a few comments disparaging Republicans for plausible deniability, then when it gets down to brass tacks, the things he argues for align pretty closely with conservative values.

Shady as shit

Name one thing Ive argued that aligns closely with conservatives, I would love to see it lol

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 1:01:09 PM
#177
Will_VIIII posted...
Cringy response from a MAGA I'm shocked

I love how you didnt even bother denying it

Thats the real cringe. A privileged, sheltered suburbanite acting like they know all about the blights people are actually facing. Theres a reason why most people in this country hate people like you

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:57:36 PM
#171
hyperpowder posted...
I'd kick them the fuck out and tell them that's the "risk" of renting.


Thats because youre based as fuck

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TopicBiden's economy added 950,000 new jobs in July
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:56:48 PM
#13
TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:55:57 PM
#169
Will_VIIII posted...
Like the case with most MAGAs, reading comprehension and understanding the order of events is a struggle.

You were the first to be inflammatory, and I already clarified I'm a home owner in this topic.

MAGAs really are a special level of stupid.

I wasnt inflammatory to you, I was inflammatory to leftists who dont know anything about economics, specifically.

Thanks for confirming that though!

Also nobody cares that your mommy and daddy bought you a house. Doesnt make you any more knowledgeable on the topic than anyone else.

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:52:29 PM
#166
Will_VIIII posted...
Thanks for affirming that isn't necessary to take you seriously or even be respectful to you.

You started it by calling me a MAGA. Im sure youll be a valued member of your commune though, dw. Just make sure you do your part (and anyones slacking) so you get enough rations for your family everyday. And go ahead and throw your degree away (if you have one), itll be useless in your commune.

Gl comrade -salute-

Edit: and hey, cleaning (literal) shit is probably the most important job. Dont look at it as something degrading. You will be valued incredibly, and get nothing extra to show for it

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TopicI get back to civilization to find out that Nina Turner lost her election in OH?
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:49:44 PM
#12
Broseph_Stalin posted...
this actually is that kind of area that progressives usually target (it's like a D+30 district) which makes nina's loss even funnier honestly

Oh shit, youre right. Thats hilarious lmao

Doe posted...
I said in my first post that I don't think money was the deciding thing of this election, I just think it's dumb for people to go "well this group pouring huge money into the election backs X ethnicity interests so now it's okay"

I never said it was okay, its just that some of the rhetoric Turner and her supporters use when talking about her loss is sketchy as fuck


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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:47:20 PM
#161
Will_VIIII posted...
Ah MAGA projection

Oh, you dont know what projection means either

Did you learn a bunch of new words today or something?

Fitting tag btw



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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:45:11 PM
#159
Will_VIIII posted...
Your throwing around "leftists" is what did it genius

Ahh, so you just dont know anything about politics

Everything makes sense now. Why even bother posting about politics when you have no idea what youre talking about?

Also I didnt throw it around. I used it once lmao

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:42:12 PM
#156
CanuckCowboy posted...
Even if he hadn't his follow up sure does.



Idk, I like my tag better

Will_VIIII posted...
Please point out where my posts ITT indicate I don't have progressive views


Will_VIIII posted...
He earned a MAGA tag with that remark

If you think anyone who hates progressives are MAGA, and most of the country hates progressives, then youre making the claim that most of America is just MAGA country. Doesnt sound very progressive to me tbh

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:37:48 PM
#152
Will_VIIII posted...
He earned a MAGA tag with that remark

A MAGA who probably holds more progressive ideas than you, voted against Trump twice, and constantly shits on the right

Sounds about right

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:36:25 PM
#150
CanuckCowboy posted...
Killbotz: makes numerous valid points and has quality discussion.

You: hurr durr leftists!

There is no such thing as a quality discussion with a leftists, so why would I bother

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TopicI get back to civilization to find out that Nina Turner lost her election in OH?
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:34:49 PM
#6
shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah, lots of PAC spending against her that publishes outright lies (like that she didnt support Medicare For All).

Yes, blame the jews

In reality most of America just doesnt like progressives (shocker, I know). Theres a reason why moderate Dems almost always end up beating the progressives when it comes to elections outside of the deep blue areas.

Progressives should just stay where they can win. Its embarrassing how much they get blown out everytime lol

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:32:39 PM
#147
Dark_SilverX posted...
It'll be so great when the Landlords kick these people out for spending their money on other things instead of paying the rent.

Also this

KILBOTz posted...
Those are material economic benefits. Just because you don't understand finance doesn't mean the benefits aren't real.

I wouldnt even bother arguing finance with lefties, its like talking to a brick wall

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TopicTwitter to landlords; investing is a risk don't be mad tenants cannot pay rent.
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:18:27 PM
#132
SuperShake666 posted...
Landlords belong against the wall tbh

How has this not been modded lmao

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TopicKY State Deputy killed in ambush
Samurontai
08/06/21 12:15:42 PM
#1
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/us/kentucky-deputy-shot-ambush/index.html

A Jefferson County Sheriff's (JCSO) deputy has died after being shot early Thursday while working an off-duty detail, and investigators believe he was "targeted" and "ambushed," according to JCSO spokesman, Lt. Col. Carl Yates.
Deputy Brandon Shirley, 26, was working an off-duty security detail at Rockford Lane Auto Sales in Shively, Kentucky, when he was shot inside his personal vehicle around 2:30 a.m. ET, Lt. Col. Yates told CNN on the phone.
Shirley was taken to the University of Louisville Hospital where he underwent emergency surgery, but "he did not survive the surgery," said Yates.

The guy was only 26 as well, damn.

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TopicDamn, Nina Turner really got blown the fuck out in Ohio, didn't she?
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:46:51 PM
#39
au_gold posted...
Name one leftist politician who uses open borders as a talking point.

Europe doesnt spend nearly as much on policing as America does, so DTP wouldnt make sense there. Thats my point.

European countries tend to be smaller, of course something like the UK isn't going to spend as much on policing as a country more than twice its size. In comparison to their GDP though, the UK spends relatively the same (just a tad bit lower than the US) on their policing.

It takes more money to implement programs to train police officers and add more divisions into the police organizations. There's a reason why most big cities who started doing the "defund the police" stuff, ended up 180ing.


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TopicJoe Rogan talks with Yenomi Park about her escape from North Korea
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:41:52 PM
#70
Shezarr posted...
This is the laziest, stupidest attempt at a gotcha i've seen in some time, congratulations.

It's not even a gotcha, you just made a wildly stupid claim.

Call her stupid for something that doesn't drag an entire minority group into the mix as well.

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TopicJoe Rogan talks with Yenomi Park about her escape from North Korea
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:41:03 PM
#68
"She's stupid because of this"

"Well all these people do this as well, so they must be stupid too"

"Strawman!"

Nah

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TopicJoe Rogan talks with Yenomi Park about her escape from North Korea
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:40:14 PM
#67
Shezarr posted...
"no need for an ad hominem so here's an asinine strawman"

Oh, so you don't know what a straw man is either. Neat.

I'm just pointing out what you're also claiming by making that post. Either change your post, or stick by defending calling most Cuban immigrants stupid lol

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TopicDamn, Nina Turner really got blown the fuck out in Ohio, didn't she?
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:37:46 PM
#37
au_gold posted...
Name one leftist politician advocating for open borders.

And as far as I know, EU countries already spend more on social programs relative to policing, so defund the police movements arent necessary.

I never said a leftist politician was, I said it was a popular progressive talking point.

Not "unnecessary" but directly opposed to what they want. Europe tends to support increased police spending, not defunding of the police. That's my point.

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TopicJoe Rogan talks with Yenomi Park about her escape from North Korea
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:28:48 PM
#65
Shezarr posted...
I'm claiming that people who use "you couldn't say that in a totalitarian dictatorship!" to stomp out dissent are stupid. Jesus Christ you presumably aren't illiterate.

No need for an ad hominem when you aren't capable of actually adding clarity to any of your post.

Also Cubans do the same exact thing, so according to you, most Cuban immigrants are stupid.

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TopicBiden seriously needs to up the ante for these vaccines
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:26:29 PM
#3
Hard to do that beyond forcing people to get vaccinated, which would never work.

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TopicJoe Rogan talks with Yenomi Park about her escape from North Korea
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:25:35 PM
#63
Shezarr posted...
Wasn't even implied by my post. I was taking issue with her criticizing them for criticizing their government.
Subjective, I highly disagree.


Where did I say or imply that "immigrants hating leftists is some rare occurrence"?

You were either implying that, or just claiming that all immigrants who hate leftists are stupid. So choose one.

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TopicDamn, Nina Turner really got blown the fuck out in Ohio, didn't she?
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:22:44 PM
#34
au_gold posted...
Like what?

The insane drive for a minimum wage increase across the board, for one. The weird "Open borders" policy (Not talking about between the EU countries, and relaxed immigration laws is perfectly fine imo), the defund the police garbage, etc.

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TopicI feel like soon the vaccines won't even be effective at all
Samurontai
08/04/21 6:17:41 PM
#9
Mr Hangman posted...
I think all this talk about variants is just hysteria from a media which profits from hyping up every miniscule threat and from totalitarians who are afraid of losing their excuse for telling everyone what to do all the time. The vaccine works. If you have it, the pandemic is as over for you as it ever will be.

That's just not true. Variants lower the effectiveness of the Vaccines. and the less people who are vaxxed, the more chances there are of new variants rising.

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