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The style of this game always intrigued me, but I always thought it was received as a mixed bag
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Eddv posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I dunno, it seems pretty clear to me that it means These are the only rules we are taking out of the hands of the states; if you want to restrict any others you need an Amendment.

I'm no scholar, but I understand it to mean that Congress can make federal laws, and anything not under federal law defaults to the states. Your interpretation would imply that Congress is essentially not needed.

Seriously go read about the Nullification crisis - this was hotly debated at one time.

But to back sephg up a bit the 14th amendment was designed to end this debate.

Just realized your history topic purged and I am saddened
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Let's get to an actually effective scientific solution that is compatible with the 2nd amendment (yes it's possible, I described one possible solution earlier).

Disarming the police and dismantling the active military is not a realistic solution lmfao

The reality that progressives literally cannot fathom without crying is that some problems are never going to be solved. Children are going to get murdered at a higher rate in the US than other developed nations because we have a constitutional right and cultural predilection for guns here. To have it any other way will mean changing the fabric of the United States.

If it matters that much to not live in a society like this, you are better off leaving than trying to "fix" it.

Leaving doesnt fix the fact that kids are dying though. Is the fabric of the United States worth their lives if we could change that?

A liberal (in the classical meaning) and free United States is the pinnacle achievement of human civilization, so yes.
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Dark Young Link posted...

I personally wouldn't mind if drunk driving gave you a lifetime sentence on your first offense,

Jesus
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foolm0r0n posted...

Let's get to an actually effective scientific solution that is compatible with the 2nd amendment (yes it's possible, I described one possible solution earlier).

Disarming the police and dismantling the active military is not a realistic solution lmfao

The reality that progressives literally cannot fathom without crying is that some problems are never going to be solved. Children are going to get murdered at a higher rate in the US than other developed nations because we have a constitutional right and cultural predilection for guns here. To have it any other way will mean changing the fabric of the United States.

If it matters that much to not live in a society like this, you are better off leaving than trying to "fix" it.
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trdl23 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

From what I've personally researched, most of studies done that I've seen come to the conclusion that stricter gun regulations save lives.

I can't find the study, but there is one interesting paper that showed that the only legislation that has ever reduced the incidence of mass shootings in the US have been concealed carry permit laws.

Id really like to see the methods for that conclusion.

Found it: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425802/gun-free-zones-don%27t-save-lives-right-to-carry-laws-do

Here is the actual study: https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1327&context=law_and_economics
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Jakyl25 posted...

What do gun advocates generally prefer, concealed carry or open carry?

Concealed. Brandishing weapons is uncouth.
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KamikazePotato posted...

From what I've personally researched, most of studies done that I've seen come to the conclusion that stricter gun regulations save lives.

I can't find the study, but there is one interesting paper that showed that the only legislation that has ever reduced the incidence of mass shootings in the US have been concealed carry permit laws.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I wonder if there is a canon as to who beat each World

fuck I was going to @ mwc about this as a joke

but at this point I'd take a canon explanation since it seems that gameplay mechanics don't totally matter for a casual playthrough
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foolm0r0n posted...

Speed limits

This is not true at all. Can't speak about DUI stuff though.
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Jakyl25 posted...

A more mature answer than I expected

new sig
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Oh you already answered it and you agree with me. Cool

For mass shootings, it's American Gun Culture. For "regular" gun homicides, it's a mix between gun culture and an answer that you won't like to hear and will probably get me banned.

Ill ask this then: why do you think [REDACTED] culture developed the way it did?

I'm in no position to be able to answer this. But it is interesting that other former slave-holding nations and Africa itself also happen to be riddled with wanton gun violence.

I'd venture to guess that colonialism is *the* cause and a lack of education has made it even worse. It's kind of annoying that Europeans act all high and mighty on the issue of gun violence when they have probably caused these parts of the world to be this way.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh you already answered it and you agree with me. Cool

For mass shootings, it's American Gun Culture. For "regular" gun homicides, it's a mix between gun culture and an answer that you won't like to hear and will probably get me banned.
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My Immortal posted...

The only thing I have to say to people who insist we can't do anything about gun violence is why are we the only first-world country that has this problem?

American Gun Culture. It's genuinely in our blood.
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lordloki12 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Ashethan posted...

Much like we do with cars to prevent drunk drivers, and reduce fatalities. Or how we increased airport security after 9/11 to prevent hijackings.

So you're okay with the fact that these regulations don't help at all?

You just want to sleep better at night?

The liberal mindset in gun control debates is typically to close their eyes, plug their ears with their fingers, and cry as loudly as possible about the NRA while ignoring evidence-based counterarguments to their emotionally driven solutions. There is a reason why next-to-nothing has been done legislatively on this issue for several decades.

That reason being money?

Literally proving the bolded true in the next post
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Ashethan posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

So you're okay with the fact that these regulations don't help at all?

We don't have the right regulations at the moment. I'd like to know how you became omniscient and suddenly know new regulations wouldn't help. Please give me your secret.

There have been countless regulatory trial runs on the state and local levels that have objectively failed at reducing gun violence. There have literally been no unique solutions offered on the federal level in decades.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Ashethan posted...

Much like we do with cars to prevent drunk drivers, and reduce fatalities. Or how we increased airport security after 9/11 to prevent hijackings.

So you're okay with the fact that these regulations don't help at all?

You just want to sleep better at night?

The liberal mindset in gun control debates is typically to close their eyes, plug their ears with their fingers, and cry as loudly as possible about the NRA while ignoring evidence-based counterarguments to their emotionally driven solutions. There is a reason why next-to-nothing has been done legislatively on this issue for several decades.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Didnt we have a ban on assault weapons for 10 years awhile back?

Somehow that didnt require Constitutional meddling

It also had no tangible impact on gun violence per numerous studies

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf
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HashtagSEP posted...

"Homicides decreasing" is only true if you stop counting at 2014.

2015 was higher than 2014
2016 was higher than 2015
2017 was higher than 2016

Guess what 2018 is on pace for

Did we change any gun laws in 2014?
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HashtagSEP posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Gun violence in the US has been significantly dropping over the past several decades, and it's not because of laws passed.

Source?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/

So there's a bit of a problem with this. Mainly that it's using data that's three years old. Those rates have been rising since 2015. So saying that it's "naturally declining" is dishonest, since it's going back up.

But being dishonest tends to be your thing so

Do you even math? Assuming a two year increase in 2016 and 2017, that does not signify the end of a clear trend.
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Gatarix posted...

Otherworld imo

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Umbreon posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Umbreon posted...

Sure doesn't feel like the problem is declining.

Good news doesn't get clicks

This has been true for decades. I don't see how that's totally relevant. Mass shootings such as these appear to be increasing. Unless your argument is "Across the country, less people are being shot overall". In which case... there are still far too many of these instances happening for us to just shurg off.

What difference is there between "regular" shootings and mass shootings if the number of homicides is decreasing every year? I know it's hard to remove emotion from it, but people (and politicians) need to look at the statistics objectively if anything is to be done.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Why spend energy to come up with a difficult solution for a problem that is naturally declining as is?

this is some "slavery would have gone away anyway!" kind of logic.

totally
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Umbreon posted...

Sure doesn't feel like the problem is declining.

Good news doesn't get clicks
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Regaro posted...

Frankly, the problem isn't civilian gun ownership. It's the f***ing fetis***ing guns/violence and complete and utter lack of safety culture in the US that cause most of the problems.

Thank you for properly blaming beta males for these cultural issues
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VintageGin posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

The fundamental question is this: after we successfully ban all civilian gun ownership, when shootings still happen, what will you do?

Say "welp, we tried!" and just accept it? Add more regulations? Become Batman?

If you haven't even thought about this question, you are absolutely unqualified to say another word on this topic.

So is your solution just to maintain the status quo?

Why spend energy to come up with a difficult solution for a problem that is naturally declining as is?
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Ashethan posted...

Most people don't want to outright ban guns. They want to regulate them.

They are already regulated.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Well when we take over the world and ban gun production then its just a slow attrition as all functional guns slowly break down

Did you not learn anything from that Treehouse of Horror episode?!
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foolm0r0n posted...

You will take literally the first superficial solution that makes you sleep better at night, and that's it.

There is something to be said about superficial solutions that have a psychological benefit for a large number of people in society (as long as the solutions do not infringe on anyone's rights).
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Gun violence in the US has been significantly dropping over the past several decades, and it's not because of laws passed.

Source?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Guns kill a million times more Americans than terrorists, but somehow the latter is our #1 priority.

Thoughts?

If you want to rank priorities simply by death toll, then gun control is still not at the top

There is obviously a debate to be had about anything, factoring in how much influence legislation can have, factoring in cost (financial and otherwise), etc. Gun violence in the US has been significantly dropping over the past several decades, and it's not because of laws passed.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I dunno, it seems pretty clear to me that it means These are the only rules we are taking out of the hands of the states; if you want to restrict any others you need an Amendment.

I'm no scholar, but I understand it to mean that Congress can make federal laws, and anything not under federal law defaults to the states. Your interpretation would imply that Congress is essentially not needed.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

We are never going to have a constructive debate about gun control until the Left acknowledges that Congress has to take this to an amendment vote

Why? We dont do this for most things that circumvent the letter of the Constitution

I can't think of a single other hot button issue that is directly spelled out in the Constitution, but debate rages anyway.

States rights?

I mean the tenth amendment in itself was basically designed to be perennially debated. I wouldn't call "state's rights" a single issue anyway.
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Tag
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

We are never going to have a constructive debate about gun control until the Left acknowledges that Congress has to take this to an amendment vote

Why? We dont do this for most things that circumvent the letter of the Constitution

I can't think of a single other hot button issue that is directly spelled out in the Constitution, but debate rages anyway.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also what is the deal on why we arent addressing the opioid crisis as well as we could be? Seems like a bipartisan topic.

Because the political climate is toxic and our representatives are generally garbage
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Paratroopa1 posted...

I think the least we can do is regulate guns at least as much as we regulate cars, and I don't think that's too ridiculous, unless you're one of the libertarian types who thinks driver's licenses are impugning our god-given rights somehow

The problem is that the right to own a vehicle is not explicitly written in the Constitution.

We are never going to have a constructive debate about gun control until the Left acknowledges that Congress has to take this to an amendment vote (which is fine that they aren't, as mass shootings are not even close to the top of problems this country needs to address [see: opioid crisis]).
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LeonhartFour posted...

Have Yuffie put my Materia back where it's supposed to go.

That's the only improvement we need.

Ooh yeah, this.

I had to write everything down during my Ultimate Playthrough (TM)
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Gimme please?
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pjbasis posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

My issue is with firearms designed for the battlefield. I see no discernible reason for them to be widely available to civilians

So you don't see much value in them being useful against a tyrannical government, then?

This isn't the primary purpose of the second amendment. The second amendment was designed to avoid tyranny by way of the people relying on government for personal security.
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Having "secret" characters is something I actually miss in RPGs. I thought Yuffie and Vincent still added enough to the story (Vincent especially) without being 100% integral if you happened to miss recruiting them. This was so much improved over Mog/Umaro/Gogo from FFVI.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Can't help with this, but did you already beat SMB? If so, any thoughts?

I did. It was pretty weird to finally beat (without using warp zones) the first game that I ever remember seriously playing as a kid.

SMB1 is no SMB3. The controls are clunky, it can be incredibly cheap, and it gets a bit repetitive. The Bowser fights toward the end are particularly amusing, as you basically just need to eat a hit and then sprint past him to the axe in order to win. But it's still a damn good platformer overall, and it's kind of impossible for me to rate it irrespective of the context of its era. 8.5/10.

Which version did you play?

All-Stars
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so 4-3 is really the only one built around a specific character?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Knowing him for all these years his growth has been pretty cool to see.

Pretty sure he's still the size of a 13 year old
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Can't help with this, but did you already beat SMB? If so, any thoughts?

I did. It was pretty weird to finally beat (without using warp zones) the first game that I ever remember seriously playing as a kid.

SMB1 is no SMB3. The controls are clunky, it can be incredibly cheap, and it gets a bit repetitive. The Bowser fights toward the end are particularly amusing, as you basically just need to eat a hit and then sprint past him to the axe in order to win. But it's still a damn good platformer overall, and it's kind of impossible for me to rate it irrespective of the context of its era. 8.5/10.
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I am under the impression that you can select a different character to play each world... are there any that just make the best fits?
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Should I give him money?
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Agree with zylo and mwc

The goat is the goat for a reason
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

So cheap is good

This plus the desire for nerd/weird culture is telling me Austin or Knoxville perhaps?
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Chris, some responses/insight would be helpful to narrow down based on your needs!
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