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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 2:23:10 PM
#365
Sheep007 posted...
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Sheep007 posted...
He may well not be Voldemort


What do you think his motives would be as town to fakeclaim Voldemort

What do you think his motives were behind being vague about and/or changing his role multiple times up to this point?


I answered your question now answer mine
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 2:08:20 PM
#358
I doubt Cam knows the scans that the receiver gets that would be op
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 1:46:42 PM
#354
Sheep007 posted...
What do you think his motives were behind being vague about and/or changing his role multiple times up to this point?


He is the sender. The most important player for town.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 1:31:43 PM
#350
Sheep007 posted...
He may well not be Voldemort


What do you think his motives would be as town to fakeclaim Voldemort
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 1:13:52 PM
#347
Not sure why I posted the exact same list twice. I think I meant to remove Cam from the second list. Whatever!
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 1:12:41 PM
#346
I'm going to be less liberal with "clearing" people at the moment, and put it down to this list instead of the usual.

Sheep flips town? Your list of suspects looks like this:

1. UltimaterializerX
2. Lea3Lea
4. SBell (Obellisk)
5. Camarija
8. Lopen
9. turbopuns3

You'd need to play a lot of it by ear with scan results. You're going to have at least one scanner alive tomorrow, which in theory will resolve Cam or Lea. You probably just lynch the other one-- granted I think if flavor scanner is alive scanning Voldemort is worthless so it'd have to be Lea. Removing a godfather risk in me or SBell isn't a bad idea.

Kinda like Puns as town based on his play and flavor scan confirm-- he's getting a bit of a red at disneyland vibe at this point though so I'm hoping he can contribute soon. Ulti as town is fairly safe too. I'd probably lynch Lea and Cam here (Cam is off the table if Ben has already flipped villager), then SBell.
If you meta Tom taunt thumb possibilities and overall gameplay, SBell is a better choice than me as a godfather possibility, in my best attempt to be objective.

Sheep flips scum? Your list of suspects looks like this:

1. UltimaterializerX
2. Lea3Lea
4. SBell (Obellisk)
5. Camarija
8. Lopen
9. turbopuns3

Cam looks really strong as town at that point from flavor meta and being the sender. Again, I think 5tarscream's best option at that point is to clear a godfather risk. Really like SBell as the 6th scum. Flavor godfather + normal godfather seems like a viable setup, and SBell has played this game like a godfather I think-- being meek and inconsequential to draw a cop scan, then more senselessly aggressive after being confirmed. You then probably lynch me, I guess-- it's a mistake but a necessary one. After that we're probably left with Lea vs Puns vs Ulti at the end, as the prophecy foretold. I'd probably just lynch Lea at that point because Doctor Doom and the other two being flavor confirmed, but you know.

Of course, Harry could flip as perfect godfather, meaning you definitely just scan Lea in that case and consider me and SBell cleared. The game is trivial at that point though.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:52:40 PM
#336
Is this before or after Ben flips villager?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:46:18 PM
#332
See? Voldemort confirmed town.

Let's kill Potter.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:39:56 PM
#329
It's obvious though, isn't it? Ben is just pulling a bit of that WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM action with scum.

So the dream of triceracops can live on once Ben vanishes from the planet earth.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:34:42 PM
#327
Honestly lynching Cam will probably achieve the same thing, just with the price of a mislynch and losing the sender to Ben
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:33:04 PM
#325
No the actual reason to suspect him is his gameplay

The reason to not confirm him as town is the assumption that Harry Potter is some weird godfather role
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:28:14 PM
#321
Putting aside flavor meta I would say Sheep has been scummier. This whole "Death and Pez were obv scum" by the end of the day seems so generic. Why did no one else point out Death's lack of content relative to his "town" games

Cam isn't much better as far as scumminess, mind you

But he's a great and powerful target bomb opera singing wizard who is sending Ben his scans so I would say hands off
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:55:57 AM
#310
I feel like every game I've lurked Death has been thin on content. Am I wrong? Is it a difference you could properly assess with a day of game?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:45:30 AM
#306
So you were that confident on vibes from Ben and Death not producing content off of like half a day of reading then?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:29:22 AM
#299
Lea3Lea posted...
It's a little baffling that Sheep is going hard on the "tried to lynch the cop" thing when HB did the exact same thing but worse


(It's because sheep is scum and knows why HB did it)
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:28:07 AM
#297
Sheep007 posted...
Pez's attitude towards Ben


What was scummy about it, specifically?

Sheep007 posted...
previous experiences in games with Death and Ben giving me my respective reads on them.


Can you give me an example? Like, was there something one of them did that tied back to a previous experience?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:26:14 AM
#296
If you guys hate +EV I hate wifom

I don't think I've ever seen that used as a tactic in a meaningful way by scum aside from busses
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:22:34 AM
#293
Sheep007 posted...
However, Death was fairly obvious-looking scum after some time, and I was confident Pez was too leading up to EoD


Based on?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:17:51 AM
#290
Sheep007 posted...
If you're scum, you know that my slot is town. HB was against Ben's claim, and didn't really elaborate on the reason. Him actually being Cop is a reasonable explanation for that, since he isn't scum


If I'm scum, I also know the scans are accurate. It seems implausible I'd doubt Ben was the cop and suspect another other town was the cop.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:13:58 AM
#288
Also Sheep I'm just curious did you make any attempt to determine why Hb didn't believe the Ben claim before you backed off of it? You yourself admitted you skipped most of the game. What do you think he saw?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 11:08:51 AM
#287
Sheep007 posted...
Hell, you were banking on my slot being Cop then to try and lynch Ben.


Let's be honest, does that seem like scum speculation to you?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:59:17 AM
#283
Hey Sheep why me over SBell?
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:58:26 AM
#282
Honestly

Voldemort being town's secret weapon to punish flavor godfather for just claiming their flavor would be really cute

I think sheep's slot has just been scummy though. This one I can be humored to ISO today, and likely will
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:55:01 AM
#280
benjamin3740 posted...
It also basically makes Harry Potter surefire scum if we're trying to flavor meta all of this


You know what you doing.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:53:14 AM
#277
##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep


I can't start playing by the numbers now. Let's get the scum.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:51:08 AM
#276
Oh right sheep. That's definitely the no fear play. Good call.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:48:14 AM
#274
ISO on Lea will just lead to a bunch of jokes and vote posts, probably

I don't really care to
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:43:58 AM
#271
The answer might actually still be you or Cam, so I'm okay with that
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:27:11 AM
#268
5tarscream posted...
The next night he cleared Lopen the only guy that pushed really hard for his lynch. If Bens gamble as cop claim didnt work then Lopen looks better than ever.


You do realize the only reason I even have any suspicion is because of Ben's cop claim right? I did not need his help to be obv town before that point.

I didn't think I could accuse someone of simultaneously accuse someone of overthinking and underthinking the game but here we are.
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Topicboard 8 user of the day: day 1
Lopen
07/04/19 10:12:51 AM
#2
I came to vote greengravy294 only to realize it wasn't a voting topic
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:10:04 AM
#261
What play are you talking about? Ben being the receiver and Cam being the scanner? That's a terrible play for 2 scum at this point. Completely terrible. You wouldn't link the last two scum on the board. You'd just let Cam die and hope Ben can hold the trust of town from killing two scum
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 10:02:58 AM
#259
I'm not saying you'd claim Doom as a Doctor

You'd change to your "real" claim at that point saying you breadcrumbed a doctor claim
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:54:16 AM
#256
I'm saying you defeated your own argument by arguing yourself into a corner. Nothing more. I've never put any suspicion on you this entire game aside from one of those wacky hypotheticals last topic
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:39:29 AM
#251
5tarscream posted...
Maybe Sam doesnt make sense as a cop. It might make sense as scum with Voldemort and no cop though. Especially when this whole argument of the rule of six would be based on us believing what Cam and Luis said. If both are mafia why cant there be seven? Or just 6 and no godfather.


You need to stop overthinking the game my dude

You're giving scum an easy mislynch with stuff like this if you keep going
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:36:11 AM
#250
Also when have I ever tried to kill you 5tarscream you're paranoid.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:34:53 AM
#249
Sam I Am's claim is much more glaring from flavor than Voldemort's! Sam I Am does not like power roles he does not like them.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:28:38 AM
#245
5tarscream posted...
Also all the roles have matched the character.


Lmao could not have been a more perfect follow up to my post

You just cornered yourself, bro
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:27:10 AM
#243
Does Sam I Am make sense as a scanner? No.

A great and powerful wizard? Of course.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 9:06:52 AM
#241
Cam is clearly the brains behind the operation. V scummy to deny it.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 1:54:58 AM
#197
It all makes sense. I'm sorry for calling you a bad cop Ben. It makes sense you'd have some questionable moves when you don't control your powers.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:58:32 AM
#178
Honestly it should have been obvious Ben was never pulling the strings behind his scans. That's why his diary entries sounded so made up.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:56:43 AM
#177
You probably should have given harry potter your scans I bet there's a synergy bonus
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:55:28 AM
#175
He's also an incredibly deadly target bomb
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:54:00 AM
#173
He's a powerful wizard and needs a vessel to serve as his conduit
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:53:02 AM
#171
UltimaterializerX posted...
Reason being?


He's played in a way to bait a cop scan I feel and his play since being confirmed has been very suspicious. Didn't like his lynch argument on 5tarscream. Really didn't like how he ignored the obvious hard counter argument of Corrik + Lolo role use claims basically confirming 5tarscream.
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:51:13 AM
#170
The reason to not try for godfather lynches until all are scanned or really late game is simple math by the way. There are like 7 vanillas to one godfather, if there even is one. It's just not a good odds lynch
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:48:27 AM
#168
I'm not endorsing we lynch SBell today for a reason

I'm just saying

He's the guy
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:47:45 AM
#165
When Ben dies send me the scans btw

Triceracops
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:45:02 AM
#161
There is probably a godfather

It's SBell btw
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TopicEnglish Literature Mafia Topic 20: Falling Action
Lopen
07/04/19 12:43:57 AM
#159
I think Cam and Lea are both winning lynches today. I'll keep the wagon split.
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