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I know you guys don't browse B8 often but this is the confirmation topic and post your friend codes.
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Waluigi1 posted...

You should have linked to this topic in the other one before closing imo.

Agreed. I happened upon this one from browsing.

Anyways, following and will post friend code when I get home.
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Corrik posted...

Drakeryn posted...

Corrik posted...

That said, a three year old saying ridiculous things is not a cause for concern. You just want to ignore it at times, very calmly say stuff like "we don't say stuff like that. We love kitties. They are cute! Don't you think so!" and do your best to not make a big deal about it.

This was my thought also. Kids say weird things sometimes. If this is just a singular incident I wouldn't worry about it. Obviously watch her around animals, but you should do that anyway with a three year old.

Yeah, I mean, it is probably even just a stage. I'd give it a few months or so to go away assuming you don't reinforce it somehow.

My son was saying something similar. (Not about cats. It went away. No big deal.

Generally, children that age simply don't even understand what they are saying at that age or what it truly means.

This is very true, and like I said earlier I plan to actually see if she understands what killing is or if it was something she just repeated because my wife used that word.
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Corrik posted...

Shaduln posted...

Listen to Corrik over the trained therapist, he knows better.

It is literal common sense. Anyone who has any experience in mainstreaming/special education can tell you this.

If the behavior isn't prevalent, it is not a cognitive issue in a child. If it manifests around certain individuals, it is behavioral. Behavioral therapy with the parents where a therapist tells you how to deal with behavior to shape responses and avoid problematic behaviors/responses is a good idea.

Planned ignoring, proper phrasing of questions/ set up of situations, and etc are good things to learn.

One of the biggest issues parents run into is not knowing how to talk to kids.

NO is the last thing you generally want to have to tell a child unless it is something major. Thus, shaping your questions to avoid this response is always best.

For example...

Poorly framed questioning to a kid.

Question: "What would you like for breakfast?"

Answer: "Ice cream and Skittles".

Your Response: "No, you can't have that."

Child gets upset.

This is exactly how you DON'T talk to a child who has a behaviorial issue. Because the child did nothing but answer your question as asked and you responded by telling them no. Why did you even ask the question then if their response wouldn't be allowed?

Better question

Question: "Would you like eggs for breakfast?"

Answer: "No, I hate eggs"

Response: "How about cereal? You can have cereal or eggs if you are hungry. If not, and you get hungry later let me know and I will get you one of those".

Learning how to not lead conversations to "no" and misdirecting conversations to answers you find acceptable is one of the key things most parents lack the training on and it can handle many situations.

This can help with behavioral issues

That said, a three year old saying ridiculous things is not a cause for concern. You just want to ignore it at times, very calmly say stuff like "we don't say stuff like that. We love kitties. They are cute! Don't you think so!" and do your best to not make a big deal about it. Some kids will do things purposely just for attention from a parent. If you make a big deal to bad behavior, you reinforce doing bad things to get that attention.

While I agree with this, whole heartedly. The sensory processing is something that tends to be quite prevalent when she is in relaxed environments. They tend to come out more when she is comfortable in a scenario and are less prevalent when she is distracted. There are also times when sound, light and things touching her do set off irrational responses.
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Shaduln posted...

Listen to Corrik over the trained therapist, he knows better.

Of course.
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Corrik posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

TexasZea posted...

take her to a therapist, don't take advice from board 8

I'm not soley taking advice from B8, this was more of a blogfaqs and she has a therapist already, the problem is she exhibits no bad behaviours when not in our care making it look like we make things up. She has been diagnosed with sensory processing disorder but will only exhibit the behaviours when no one is around. The only reason she even got the diagnosis is because her occupational therapist did home visits and after months of coming over and seeing a perfect little angel there was one day when is was in full on meltdown mode. After seeing it her therapist was like, "Whoa."

That isn't a cognitive disorder. That is behaviorial. She only acts up around yinz because she trusts and loves you so much that she feels no matter what she does you will still love her regardless.

Likely from either over nurturing or lack of authority/discipline.

Well to be honest, she wouldn't be wrong in assuming that lol.

And no, sensory processing disorder in not behavioural.
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TexasZea posted...

take her to a therapist, don't take advice from board 8

I'm not soley taking advice from B8, this was more of a blogfaqs and she has a therapist already, the problem is she exhibits no bad behaviours when not in our care making it look like we make things up. She has been diagnosed with sensory processing disorder but will only exhibit the behaviours when no one is around. The only reason she even got the diagnosis is because her occupational therapist did home visits and after months of coming over and seeing a perfect little angel there was one day when is was in full on meltdown mode. After seeing it her therapist was like, "Whoa."
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SantaRPidgey posted...

You might want to read up on the book "psychopath test" Psychopathy or sociopathy are not death sentences (to her or you guys) it may just mean a different method of raising them is in order.

I'll do that, thanks.
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bryans7 posted...

Maybe she doesn't understand what the word kill means.

I'm pretty sure she does, but I'll confirm that when I get home.
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Raka_Putra posted...

Hey, if she grows up to be a butcher she can kill animals legally.

This is true lol.
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KamikazePotato posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

The thing is, she has been visibly upset everytime we have had an animal die.

When our fish died earlier this year she cried and was upset for weeks about it. She even got mad at me for flushing it.

When one of our dogs died in August, she was very upset about it and even drew pictures to bury with the dog when we buried it out in its favourite camping spot.

So she shows signs of empathy but I'm starting to think she is faking it.

I am not even close to an expert on this subject so take this with a big grain of salt, but from what I understand, psychopathy/sociopathy (I would say this situation reads more like psychopathy but they're almost the same thing) doesn't mean 'can't get upset'. If you like a living being and it dies, anyone is going to be upset - the difference is that a Psychopath/sociopath views it more as "this object I liked is gone" whereas someone with more empathy would view it as "this living being with its own thoughts and emotions is dead". They can also have SOME empathy, it's just stunted. Or they don't have any at all and they're faking everything.

Not that it's guaranteed that your daughter is a psychopath or sociopath, but honestly those examples you gave are pretty alarming.

Yea, I'm currently at the point where I want to monitor the behaviour, but I'm not 100% sure what to do. Her early ed class has people that we are going to talk to.
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ScareChan posted...

I remember hearing something about how when your brain sees something cute and you say you want to Eat it or squish it is because our brain doesn't know how to handle cute so it reverts to one of those

So may just be that she is finding it super cute?

Oh god, I hope so.

You saying this prompted me to investigate it, I guess cuteness aggression is a thing.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

Maybe she just hates the cat cause cats suck

Nah, cats are chill. I personally don't think there are any pets that "suck." I have animals I hate but that's because they deserve it.
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Lopen posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

My brain tells me ___ like when my brain tells me I am hungry.

Daughter talking like this was the first sign tbh

Yea that was what kind of set alarm bells off for my wife, and when she told me I was flabbergasted at that.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

That seems pretty sophisticated for 3 years old.

She's three and a half, and it would probably blow you're mind how advanced mentally and physically both of our kids are. Not meant to be a humble brag or anything and I know parents say that kind of thing about their kids all the time, but it's kind of crazy how both of our kids turned out the way they did especially because both my wife and I have siblings that border on being mentally challenged and both of our moms are borderline mentally challenged.
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The thing is, she has been visibly upset everytime we have had an animal die.

When our fish died earlier this year she cried and was upset for weeks about it. She even got mad at me for flushing it.

When one of our dogs died in August, she was very upset about it and even drew pictures to bury with the dog when we buried it out in its favourite camping spot.

So she shows signs of empathy but I'm starting to think she is faking it.
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My wife caught her biting our kittens tail and when asked about it she replied, "My brain tells me to hurt kitty like when my brain tells me I am hungry."

My wife said, "Hurting the kitten like that is bad, and if you're too rough with the kitten you could kill it."

My daughter's response? "I want to kill kitty."

My wife said, "you're not allowed to kill the kitty."

She replied, "When can I kill an animal?"

My daughter is 3 years old.
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I literally got nothing, unless you count the joy of of my children, but me and my wife kind of gave that to ourselves by getting them stuff.
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Not with that attitude, it's not.
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red13n posted...

So those of you that were like "chris is scum" you were wrong and now you vote in line.

Ok.

##Unvote
##Vote:Sheep
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I know Terra from mafia, I know he's a smash fan
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##Vote:JB
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##Unvote
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##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep
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MZero11 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Hey Mzero when and what was the FIRST instance where you thought JB was scum?

This post pinged my gut

ok scrolling back through past pages

I like Han. As town I trust his reads more than most people here and he feels pretty town so far

so that puts suspicion on eadededeadad and Reg, both of which feel a little cruddy. Reg seems weirdly defensive early on but I'm pretty sure I've never played with Reg before so I don't know what to make of that.

eadeadeadde started off real bad. Saying you're gonna "try and be aggressive this time" feels like scum specifically trying to cover up differences in their town play. That and both going along with Red's game and also arguing Red's game seem wrong

Neab voting eaeadedead immediately after Han does feels bad as well. Like he was waiting until it was safe to vote

He takes like the easiest read (Han is town) and that's basically his entire post. It just looks like he wanted to look active so he town cleared the most obviously town player in the game at that point. Then he calls out Neablis for doing essentially the same thing.

and then this post

still really don't like eaadead and still like han. This felt like the ideal direction to go last night and that hasn't really changed

scare seems to be making a constant and consistent effort. not sure if that makes him town or just maximum effort scum, but I feel good about him

the push on reg seems scummy. Like people are trying to focus a mislynch. I feel like several people on there are probably scum

Where he goes from "Reg seems crummy and overly defensive" to "I think scum are trying to mislynch Reg!" with absolutely 0 justification, while saying eaed still looks bad

pretty much sealed it for me but he has looked scummy since then as well

Who was this?
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benjamin3740 posted...

red13n posted...

IF you think sheep is town. Look at the rest of the johnbob lynch. You have igcd and mzero.

Is there a scumteam for you ben where sheep, mzero, and igcd are all town?

John, Ashe, Chris. One of the most viable teams in my head right now.

Replace Ashe with HB and I would totally agree.
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Sheep007 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm switching back to JB last second :^)

Nice. Real nice. Reeeeal nice.

Conspiracy theory: God is scum intentionally being scummy so that people won't switch onto John.

Counterconspiracy: God is town who think's I'm scum intentionally being scummy so that people won't switch onto his townread John.

Both tbh
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benjamin3740 posted...

I'm switching back to JB last second :^)

Nice. Real nice. Reeeeal nice.
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Can someone post the living players list for me please, I'm on mobile right now.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I will probably need to re-evaluate on Chris. But the biggest pusher for you today is Red, and Im pretty sure I dont need to re-evaluate him.

Which is why I asked you about Chris, not Red.

Why arent you going after the main person responsible for going after you?

Because Red is fairly close to confirmed town?

Like, shit, for someone who's certain of an unscanned player's alignment you don't seem to understand how this whole confirmation thing works very well

It was a rhetorical question.

Which leads me into my point for everyone? Which seems like the smarter idea: the lynch lead by the town confirmed, or the lynch lead by the guys who have looked scummy all game?

Being confirmed doesn't mean you're right.
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Sheep007 posted...

I'm so fucking tilted right now. Gonna take a short break and eat some cheese.

Ha ha ha, that's great.
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Hbthebattle posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I'm not pushing anyone.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

red13n posted...

1. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
8. Hbthebattle
11. Johnbobb
13. MZero11
19. Sheep007
17. ScareChan

9. htaeD
10. IfGodCouldDie
14. Neablis
15. red13n
20. DoomTheGyarados (replaced Terra-enforcer)

So thats what you have so far. Anyone else you want to remove from the top list or are you ready to start making decisions?

You can remove Chris from the bottom list. I'd end day early if his lynch was at -1 right now.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

This post rings some major alarm bells for me. If John flips scum, I'd like people to look at HB and Chris.

Expressing my thoughts on a player does not mean I am pushing them.
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Hbthebattle posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.

He did though.

You realize he voted Plum D3, right?

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Hbthebattle posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

You mean this question? Obviously the answer seems to be Chris, based on how youre pushing him.

I'm not pushing anyone.
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benjamin3740 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?

He never said that.

He did though.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Wow anyone else think its odd IGCD only starts contributing when its time to parrot Sheep? When hes repeatedly refused to give his reads and thoughts unless heavily pressed in the past

Food for thought.

Please answer my question.
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Sheep007 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.

I'm not sold on the idea of basically the entire scum team bar one trying to kill me D2, though. It seems a bit too much like putting all their eggs in one basket and there were surely easier targets even if I looked the worst on paper.

You mean like how Chris honestly believes the entire scum team minus plum was on Ed?
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Sheep007 posted...

I kinda wish I could evaluate HB with less bias because he's been dropping loads of noob town stuff with his demeanor and all but his actions since D1 are pretty damn scummy. Everyone else has been confident on him as town though and I don't think he would slip past so many experienced people, new as he is, as scum.

If Chris is on his team he would have less to worry about.
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I believe you.
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Hbthebattle posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Why else would he continually refuse to give his thoughts- except when Sheep is threatened?

I have repeatedly given thoughts when asked to do so.

That is... practically the opposite of what you have done. You have repeatedly refused to do so.

No I have shared everything I had anytime I was prompted to.
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Hbthebattle posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I think we can officially confirm ICGD is scumbuddies with Sheep, as if anyone is surprised at this rate.

You didn't answer my question.

You didnt ask any meaningful ones.

Yes, I did.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Why else would he continually refuse to give his thoughts- except when Sheep is threatened?

I have repeatedly given thoughts when asked to do so.
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Hbthebattle posted...

I think we can officially confirm ICGD is scumbuddies with Sheep, as if anyone is surprised at this rate.

You didn't answer my question.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I am shaking in my boots.

Cool story bro.
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Zigerions(Rick and Morty)
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Hbthebattle posted...

Seriously, is nobody noticing all the scummiest people are on the John train?

The consensus for PoE seems to be me, John and sheep. Where else would Sheep and I go if we are all scum together?

This post rings some major alarm bells for me. If John flips scum, I'd like people to look at HB and Chris.
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red13n posted...

I got that like, 45 minutes ago igcd. What is the rest of your plan?

Play the game as it progresses.
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Like I said, I'm ok with following the jb lynch despite having my reservations.
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