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It's not that good of a deal, especially if you already own some of those games.

But if you're after a legal way of playing Star Fox 2, then this is your only option, of course. Or if there are multiple games that happen to be on this thing that you can't get on the VC or something. In my case, it's the cheapest way I can get Earthbound legally, because it's either $150 for the cartridge or $150 for a used New Nintendo DS (oxymoron, hrhrhr) just to buy EB on the VC for $8.
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How does Circle of Life have no votes? Amazing. Anyway, that gets my vote.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

why would you adjust 2015 above 2013?

I boosted 2015 because I felt that Fallout 4 was placed too low and MGSV would have benefiited that year. The Witcher has decent strength, at least.

However, I failed to take Link Between Worlds into account for 2013.
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I went and applied a few more multipliers to years that clearly were missing/lowly placed pictures or suffered SFF. I used a multipler of 1.2 for 1997, which makes a good compromise between the disagreement over whether 1997 could have broken 40% on 1998.

And... (fine!) I've put in some x-stats for the older years from the vote-in polls... however, the linear x-stat model was used. The 70's years were extrapolated from 1979, and the 80's years were based off of 1981. I will post those tomorrow, assuming I don't forget.


1985 - 1.30
1987 - 0.85
1988 - 1.50
1989 - 1.30
1990 - 1.20
1992 - 1.10
1993 - 1.50
1996 - 1.20
1997 - 1.20
1999 - 1.40
2000 - 1.10
2003 - 1.30
2005 - 1.10
2006 - 1.20
2008 - 1.15
2014 - 1.50
2015 - 1.10

Newly Adjusted Extrapolated Standings
1998 - 50.00%
1997 - 39.16%
2001- 3.81%
1994 - 33.65%
1995 - 32.38%
1991 - 31.38%
2000- 31.01%
1992- 29.87%
1996- 28.99%
2002- 28.29%
2004- 27.80%
2006- 27.69%
1987- 26.21%
1990- 25.83%
2011- 25.56%
1999- 24.94%
2008- 24.57%
2003- 24.25%
2007- 22.73%
2005- 22.58%
1993- 21.12%
2015- 20.36%
2013- 20.35%
1985- 17.45%
2014- 17.07%
2010- 16.77%
2016- 16.17%
1981- 14.24%
2009- 13.84%
1989- 12.30%
1988- 11.73%
2012- 10.66%
1983- 7.45%
1986- 7.12%
1978- 6.53%
1979- 5.23%
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Yeah, I was pretty conservative on that 1997 adjustment... I just thought, how much would the removal of MK64 be, and placing SF64 down further? Oh, wait... Goldeneye was missing, too right? I will change the multiplier to 1.2. That will then require a re-adjusting of 2000, 1996, and 1990.
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Leonhart, double-check your 2016 and 1993 x-stats.

Here are some adjusted x-stats! The following multipliers were applied:
1992 - 1.1
2003 - 1.3
2006 - 1.2
2008 - 1.15
1987 - .85
1985 - 1.3
1997 - 1.1
1996 - 1.3
2000 - 1.1
1990 - 1.2

Only one year was adjusted down:
1987 - .85

Keep in mind that these adjustments affect all the losers underneath those years. For instance, 1996 was actually adjusted up 10% (due to 1997's adjustment), then 30%. I didn't adjust some of the round 1 years that lost, such as 1999 or 1988. If you want to adjust those, be my guest. (but probably nobody would bother)

Be warned, I didn't create the x-stats from the votes cast... I was lazy and only used the match percentages. Try not to complain when the rounding is .01% off...

Adjusted Extrapolated Standings
1) 1998 - 50.00%
2) 1997 - 35.90%
3) 2001 - 33.81%
4) 1994 - 33.65%
5) 1995 - 32.38%
6) 1991 - 31.38%
7) 2000 - 30.80%
8) 1992 - 29.87%
9) 1996 - 28.79%
10) 2002 - 28.29%
11) 2004 - 27.80%
12) 2006 - 27.69%
13) 1987 - 26.21%
14) 1990 - 25.65%
15) 2011 - 25.56%
16) 2008 - 24.57%
17) 2003 - 24.25%
18) 2007 - 20.83%
19) 2005 - 20.53%
20) 2013 - 20.35%
21) 1985 - 17.45%
22) 2015 - 16.82%
23) 2010 - 16.77%
24) 1999 - 16.33%
25) 2016 - 16.17%
26) 1981 - 14.24%
27) 1993 - 14.08%
28) 2009 - 13.84%
29) 2014 - 11.38%
30) 2012 - 9.77%
31) 1989 - 9.39%
32) 1988 - 7.82%
33) 1986 - 7.12%
34) 1978 - 5.94%
35) 1983 - 5.69%
36) 1979 - 5.23%
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Three seconds, Leon. Three seconds! Amazing. =p

Time to predict the x-stats bracket.... assuming ALL pictures are optimal.

1) 1998
8) 1986

4) 2007
5) 2003

3) 2004
6) 2016

2) 2002
7) 1990


1) 1997
8) 2014

4) 1996
5) 2005

3) 2011
6) 1999

2) 1995
7) 1981


1) 1994
8) 2012

4) 2008
5) 1985

3) 2006
6) 2013

2) 1991
7) 2009


1) 2001
8) 1988

4) 2000
5) 2010

3) 1992
6) 1993

2) 1987
7) 2015

Final Four:
1998 > 1997
2001 > 1994

1998 > 2001
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Congrats to yoblazer and team Luster Soldier/tennisboy.
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Still in the top 10!
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Come on Xenogears...plz stay above 5%!

You guys are so slow getting the x-stats together! At least I know that 1994 is 3rd place (yay). Who would've guessed that before round 2?
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I can't wait to see how much I fall for picking 2001! (no, it wasn't a serious prediction)
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I hate this contest. Hate it. Come on, 2001... please get a rally going tomorrow!
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

2001 - 51%

Because after 1997 was cheated out of victory, I officially began hating this contest more than any other, so I don't care about the Oracle or anything else.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

the contest is almost done, thank goodness....

1998 - 66.50%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

So what will the next 1998 pic have? If four games change, I suppose we might have...

Zelda: OoT
RBY
Metal Gear Solid
(one of the other five games from last round)
Half-Life
Resident Evil 2?
Gran Turismo?
Baldur's Gate? Spyro? Parasite Eve?
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Go 2001! Smash Bros. Melee is my second fav game ever!

But if 1997 was winning, I would root for that year, too, because it has FF7, SotN, and Mario Kart 64... a dream combination, even if none of them is in my top two.

LeonhartFour posted...

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Might depend on what Vincent wears to the match.

Eh, he looked pretty awful in round 1 in 2013, too. The only FFVII character who doesn't seem to have dropped off over the last few years is Tifa, and I can think of a couple big reasons why that is.

Yes. There is certainly at least one very "big" reason Tifa has only increased in strength. As for myself, I like Aeris more in terms of looks and personality.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I lowered by Oracle by seven points after seeing FF7's match pic.

Ma, there's no way 1995 would get 70% on 1996.

The hilarious thing is that 1987 could end up almost equal with 1997 in the stats if 2001 keeps this up.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

LeonhartFour posted...

can't wait for the final where 1997 doesn't get FFVII in the pic

(or 2001 doesn't get Melee/FFX)

Psh, just you watch when Allen has 1998 losing in the final, and then he snubs OoT and RBY!
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

bah

1997 - 53.25%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I would like to see 1987 vs. 1990... but that would never happen. Or CT vs. Zelda:OoT... but those would never happen.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I don't think the pics were posted in this topic yet, so here they are....

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/byg/r4/2001_l.jpg
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/byg/r4/2001_r.jpg
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/byg/r4/1997_l.jpg
https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/byg/r4/1997_r.jpg
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

dang it... why did 1997's pic have to get so screwed over....so much for an easy road to the finals....

1997 - 54.25%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Weird. 1998 starting showing some (ever-so-slight) weakness, but then caught fire two updates in a row with over 86%.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Back in 1998, I didn't realize it was such a big year for gaming... back then it seemed like only Ocarina of Time and MGS were hyped. 2001 was different. Huge games for PS2, Xbox, and the GC. But in retrospect, 1998 is pretty much the king. There's everything on the match pics, plus Half-Life and a few others...
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

squexa posted...

Man, '98 is gonna slay.

RBY vs RSE
OoT vs WW
FFT vs FFX-2

LOL

Oh, geez, that's brutal... well, if Ocarina of Time fails to pull off a tripling, I would be disappointed and would raise 1997's chances of winning the contest from 2% to like 5%.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Safety picks:

1997 - 60.50%
1998 - 68.25%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

dur

1998 - 79.50%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

1994 lost 12% between the the 10-minute mark and the end of the poll last round. 1991 lost 10%.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I always love those stats you post, TRE. Oh, uh, and your stats too, Leon.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

FFVI takes the lead... it would have REALLY worrisome if it didn't. 1994 had better hope that facing an older year will vastly improve its trends.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Yikes. '94 needs to be doing better than this... let's hope the board vote favors '91. (my bracket has 1991, but I'm rooting for 1994...)
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Heaviest - 165
Lightest - 125

I've been stuck at 160, and it's hard to get itdown despite going on a diet and improving my eating habits... and what sucks is that I have a semi-injured left calf, so if I do go running, it has to REALLY slow (plus stopping from time to time). Thus, it would take an INSANE amount of time to lower my weight through running....

Oh, that's right. All I need to do is use an elliptical machine. Duh. I think I'll get a gym membership again to do that.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

1998's 73% on 1992 was flat out scary, but expected (at least, it should have been). I would think 1996 is a bit stronger than 1992. If 1997 can break 70% by the end, I might have to retract my "not a chance" statement about '97 > '98. But no matter how well 1997 does today, I couldn't call it the favorite for the championwhip.

pjbasis posted...

98 isn't gonna be held under 70 until the finals

You may be right. If 1994 is worth 54.75% on 1992, 1998 will hit 70% on 1994. Granted, there could have been SFF in '98 vs. '92.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Giant2005 posted...

Haste_2 posted...

1996's lack of depth is being exposed with the dual-pictures. Meanwhile, 1997's new inclusions of the N64 versions of Mario Kart and Star Fox are likely strengthening the year. We'll see if it can keep this up, though.

Not really. Those pictures are just straight up sabotage.
There are plenty of options that could (and should) have been used over the likes of Suikoden, Metal Slug, and Nights into Dreams.
Any of Duke Nuken 3D, Quake, Resident Evil, Tekken 2, and Diablo would have been undeniably better choices.

Yeah, you're right. Quake and Resident Evil were huge snubs. Still can't compare to 1997, though.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Maybe FFVII has a chance at taking back the crown?

Not a chance. 1996 is fairly strong, but I think we're seeing it's not too different from 1991 and 1994, strength-wise. It might even be weaker than those.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Yes!!! 1996 is getting crushed! Die, die, die, you fiend, for beating 2000 and for being so much stronger than 1990!
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I would guess...

Link
Snake
Mario
Samus
Crono
Mega Man
Cloud
Sonic
Sephiroth
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

1996's lack of depth is being exposed with the dual-pictures. Meanwhile, 1997's new inclusions of the N64 versions of Mario Kart and Star Fox are likely strengthening the year. We'll see if it can keep this up, though.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Well, yeah, 1997 clearly looked stronger than 2001 last round. 1997 outdoing 2001 shouldn't surprise anybody.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Go 1997! Even if '96 has SMRPG and Suikoden....
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Down to two perfects.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

1996 is going to break 45% on 1997, despite having the weaker anchor AND less depth.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

trying to calculate this is difficult....

1997 - 59%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

If I had remembered that 2001 got 68% on 2008 rather than 71%, I wouldn't have predicted 2001 so high. Ugh.

1997 - 60.5%
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

The MK64 has no Wario pic. Because of this outrage, I will be voting for 1996! (okay, I'm kidding)

I have no qualms with no systems being shown... well, aside from the fact that it influenced our brackets.... it's all about the games, anyway. Mario 64 practically has the Nintendo 64 on its side, anyway, because you cannot really separate the game from the release of the system, anyway.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Agreed, SecretSquirrel.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Noooooooo! CT, don't die! Destroy my bracket! CT needs glory!

By the way, the better 1995 looks, the better 1987 looks, heheheh... even if 1995 is doing better due to its picture. Because whether 1995 has 55% or or 30%, we know the picture has improved it.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

With the vastly improved pics, hopefully we will see increased vote totals.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

1995 is looking good, but I would surprised if it didn't lose at least 5% between now and the end.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

The only contests I make the leaderboard on are the massive contests.... I've made plenty of appearances in 2007, 2008, and 2015... maybe 2013, too. I didn't make a bracket for 2010. But a smaller contest? Never.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun. So... what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."