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Doopliss_Power posted...

Surely both docs AND cop can't all be lying...

You have that backwards. With this much power they can't both be telling the truth.
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~C~ FD
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BUT with that said we still need to hear from @Terra-enforcer or we are going to bed a replace it something. Yesterday was pretty awful. We had the doc claim and pseudo counterclaim with plenty of time for Terra to clear the air and the radio silence was borderline unforgivable.
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~C~ FD
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Pendragon71037 posted...

FD, if I wasn't the Doc, how do you explain the lack of an NK the night before last?

You decided not to kill to legitimize your claim.

Or hell you lot couldn't figure out who you wanted to join so you didn't submit your target in time. It's happened before.
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~C~ FD
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In fact I can't see myself viewing the situation any differently so I'll just go ahead and vote.

##Vote: Pendragon

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I'm sorry Han and I'm sorry Ghost of Han (Ben). I let myself get to blind to the claims and I look past the people behind the claims. Pendragon had been awful for awhile and I already noted how much protection we'd already lost so I should have taken a stance yesterday.
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~C~ FD
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##vote:Pirate

He isnt cop just a pretty good hunch

The doc is a lot more likely to be a lie.

We already had confirmed protection in bodyguard and roleblocker. Our only scanner so far is the prosty.

It's possible for a cop to be the sole information role, this prosty might have been a lie. Much less likely to be the other way around.
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~C~ FD
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Sooo the doc is probably a lie.

And the cop is either also a lie which would be a real trip or is being left alive to scan a godfather.

:thinking:
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~C~ FD
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Why would they kill a vanilla.

Why do we have a living claimed doc.

And cop.

Something is rotten in the state of smashville.
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~C~ FD
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Oh shoot. @JackMan I opened my gift from you on accident.

If you could please not open your gift from me I would appreciate it. Then we can either coordinate an opening or something.

I wanted to wait 5 or 6 days until my 2 best friends are ready to pop though.
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~C~ FD
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5.2
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~C~ FD
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If Shonen is prosty then he's an awful one.
If Pendragon is doc them he really goofed what should have been an easy claim.
If Terra countered then she should have actually countered.

I can't help but feel helpless right now.

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I'm just gonna go back to the read that red would have picked me for the prosty target. Possibly mistaking my day 1 energy for having a power.

##vote: shonen
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~C~ FD
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Today is just all kinds of screwed up. Not everyone claimed, the ones who did screwed it up and we have been missing vital information for such a long time and the person who could provide it had logged on in that time but hadn't said anything.
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~C~ FD
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300,000 XP get! Level 36 get!

280,000 / 2,000,000 for level 37

But I'll get another 500k when I combine Jackman ultra and Drakeryn bf and a second bf I'm on the verge of. Huzzah XP
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~C~ FD
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Got distracted with mafia, I'm going to open now
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~C~ FD
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But honestly where the fuck is @Terra-enforcer

The fact that we don't have a clear answer on whether or not Pendragon had been countered is ridiculous.
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~C~ FD
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Harris, you have been acting weird. That's not an interesting scummy thought to have

But that's just it... I act weird but I'm like this 24/7 fd... geno hasn't been in a game with me to realise how weird I can be

Which only explains fitter why he would view it as weird behavior rather than Harris behavior.

That is a point in his favor, not against.
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~C~ FD
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well it makes me scared to vote geno if we got 2 millers I'm screwed beacuse if he flips Miller yall just gonna lynch me beacuse you dont think we can have 2 millers

That's because we probably don't. But the fact that we have at least 1 Miller means our cop is legit and one of our other powers isn't.

I still can't wrap my head around Shonen sleeping with scare though.

Like even as scum it doesn't make sense because scare was scum.

##Unvote
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~C~ FD
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Harris, you have been acting weird. That's not an interesting scummy thought to have
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~C~ FD
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Okay I'm on lunch now. So let's say I'll open the gifts at :35 after, in 7 minutes.

@Nanis23 @Mac_Arrowny 7 minute warning to activate egg if you want the bonus xp.
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~C~ FD
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Mac Arrowny posted...

You still good for 7 minutes from now?

Haven't been sent on lunch break yet, but it should be coming soon!
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~C~ FD
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Btw Harris if you are a scanner you should be really suspicious of other information roles in this power heavy field.
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~C~ FD
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Oops on the formatting.

##Vote: Shonen

Just on a bathroom break ATM, hope to be on lunch soon.
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~C~ FD
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Here is some further **Food For Though**

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We have not one, but two claimed millers now. I don't see a universe existing in which they are BOTH lying.

Why then would we have miller(s) if there were not a scanning role that could be confused by them. And thus I feel much better about our cop, and much worse about other information roles.

Which brings me back to the prosty. And I could totally see red ordering me to be slept with so that lines up too.

I'm ready to vote for Shonen, come what may.

Vote: Shonen
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~C~ FD
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So I've been going through shonen's old posts with such time as I've had. It's slow going but through the first topic and a half I have this:

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T1P1

A post saying "tag"

A post about a picture he posted.

T1P2

No posts

T1P3

No posts

T1P4

No posts

T1P5

No posts

T1P6

No posts

T1P7

No posts

T1P8

No posts

T1P9

No posts

T1P10

No posts

T2P1

A post saying Are you ready for a miracle? and taking about how corrik filled up the first topic.

A post saying he "caught up" on your 1 and a vote on red with no explanation.

A post regarding red: "I feel like he only started to make serious attempts to move the game forward once suspicion started being placed on him."

T2P2

A post saying he doesn't know what to say.

T2P3

No posts. Despite just saying he didn't know what to say and 5~people replying to give suggestions.

T2P4

No posts.

T2P5

Another post about red. "Red posted fluff then attacked the people on him"

Lolo asked who Shonen suspected. He said Chris or FD.
I thought this was weird since his reasons for voting red were parrots of things Chris and I had said.

A post about his newness.

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I know that's not much but it's something and it already establishes an inconsistency.
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~C~ FD
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Spike do I have you yet? FC?
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~C~ FD
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Yup, or we could do it in the next 15 minute if that's better.
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~C~ FD
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Well @Mac_Arrowny when are you free to proceed? Im headed into work but I usually take my lunch break around 730 pm PST.
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~C~ FD
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I clicked "quote" so I could fix the word "probably" to the word "already". I fat fingered the edit button and didn't realize it. Pls have forgiveness @eaedwards6400

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~C~ FD
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But you see how both of those are completely worthless?

And Scare essentially didn't post day 3. Because he was already caught by Han's flip. You didn't need to "catch" him in anything. The catching had already occurred.

I'm not talking about skill as it relates to high level mafia theory here. I'm just talking about basic common sense.

And then there's the way that you folded in half giving up and attempting to vote totally. Would someone who is town do that?

Fixed. Damn swipe.
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~C~ FD
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

but because it was mentioned by the host on a topic on the scum boa

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~C~ FD
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Shonen_Bat posted...

Can't convince someone who has proven themselves unwilling to accept any viewpoint except their own \_()_/

Please convince me why you saw me hinting prosty stuff to Han repeatedly day 2 and you didn't think to say anything.

Or why after that you 'targetted' the confirmed scum.

And then after that you targeted the cop.

You realize that scare was beyond dead to rights, right?

And that the cop, if scum, would likely be a scum information role so he would still get up each night.

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But with all that said I have a bold theory percolating. Perhaps Harris IS the scum, and the reason he didn't confess to being slept with right away isn't because the host forgot to mention it, but because it wasn't mentioned by the host on a topic on the scum board and Harris just overlooked it at first and just paid attention to the discussion about who he was going to pretend to scan.

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Lynching a claimed cop seems worse than lynching a proven prosty, but damn if that doesn't seem more likely than eaed forgetting to resolve a night action correctly.
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~C~ FD
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Ben, I also got a 'terra might be doc' vibe. But that's all it was, a vibe.

And until the counter claim comes I don't believe it.

I'm also not convinced we have a doctor after roleblocker plus bodyguard... But that's a different issue.

And if @Terra-enforcer IS doc them it needs to be claimed.

All in all we have way too much power. I'd still rather lynch the prostitute who had made no effort.
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~C~ FD
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Lolo_Guru posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Like my reads are my reads. If you have some of your own, post them. But I dont even agree with that reasoning why we can't be scum together

The reasoning we can't be scum together isn't the point.

The point is you had something to say specifically, directly, concisely, to when I suggested you were scum with FD, a "why can't I be scum buds with FD defense" But you had nothing on mind for me. You hadn't thought about it.

Why would you have something in mind right away for why you can't be scum with FD but not me?

Here's a point you are overlooking.

NO ONE can be scum with FD because FD isn't fucking scum.

How are you this inclined to waste your time that you still think this.

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Also I had a rough night of migraines and various bodily fluids so I'm a bit out of sorts at the moment. And I still have to be at work in 3 hours because life isn't fair.
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~C~ FD
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Take the flower by the thorns?

One grabs the bull by the horns because that is the direct head on approach to bring it down.

Grabbing a flower by the thorns is just stupid and doesn't convey any sense of directness or tackling a problem head on mentality.

PETA should feel bad that this is something that they spent effort on. I'm embarrassed for thek.
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~C~ FD
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My understanding was that flavor's would be randomized and then roles would be assigned to balance as best was possible.

Falcon Punch as vig shot makes perfect sense. When you get home by a charged Falcon Punch you get blown the fuck away.

Mario as cop makes sense in a way because of the move CAPE.

We've had Pokemon themed with MACHOP the COP.

This would be CAPE the COP.

Pichu as lrod speaks for itself and even incineraor for because his moves show enough variability to lend themselves to.

Fox's down+b is a good roleblocker because it stops and deflects things.

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Now with that said it's possible there is a newcomer that could justifiably also fit one of these roles. And that's where scum is hiding.

They could be K Rool "move name" that has a similar function to something that's been claimed.

Or in the case of the cop it could be any conceivable scum throwing out pretend scans because they know who is who.
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~C~ FD
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Han believes your are scum and he is usually right about such things
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~C~ FD
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Hbthebattle posted...

I have said this multiple times. It's because I realized Death had to have RBed Scare night 2. I am not the Doctor.

And you realize scum would have to be pretty dumb to send a kill with scare that night right?

That was the night after the "Han vs Scare - one MUST be scum day".

And death still died that night so a different scum killed him. Unless you are suggesting they have an unblockable shot and an extra kill.
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~C~ FD
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@Pendragon71037
Dude, we need you posting more. Expand what you mean better and give your thoughts.

If you *are* doctor then you are effectively a dead man walking tonight and so your thoughts and opinions have a time limit.
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~C~ FD
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geno4smash4 posted...

Pend is 100%, Hb is at 60/40.

Hb?

You mean Shonen?

And Pendragon is not 100%. I'd go as far as 95%. Unless scum was literally formatted differently than town, because we know red was vanilla to compare from.
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~C~ FD
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Giving me a cop role is like giving a kid a load of sugar and a loaded sub machine gun... it's gonna go terribly

My previous post was a reply to this one.
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~C~ FD
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Then pretend you are vanilla and hunt for scum. Read the previous days.

Pick someone you suspect and read their old posts.

It helps if you can actually remember what's happened on previous day to give context to what you are reading and to understand if it conflicts with things they have said since.
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~C~ FD
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We do not 100% have two scum in hand. This isn't the same as day 3. We have good reason to suspect them both, but complacency will be the death of us.
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~C~ FD
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pen claimed Yoshi, vanilla. And said "my flavor has to do with me eating a lot". Me and two other claimed vanillas (FD was one, can't remember the other) said it was fake because our characters didn't have flavor at all. We just have "You have no abilities" in the flavor spoto

Vote Pen by the end of the day please, my good man :^]

You do realize there is actually a non zero chance that he's the doctor (if there is one) right?

And we have to consider the idea that scum did a no kill last night and what that might imply.
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~C~ FD
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Then tell me what to do fd... it's not so hard to assert dominance over me...

Yesterday I told you I possessed the information necessary to clear my name.

You scanned me instead of literally anyone else.

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It isn't about telling you what to do or holding your hand though. It's about you putting more than just a hunch into how you spend your valuable action.

W/E though. I'm done with power talk.

I'm going to iso the prosty or something.
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~C~ FD
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Now im the only one talking... what has this game got against active players?

Well to be fair we did catch another scum for free some some people are just coasting.

Yeah but it can't be this easy all the time right... I mean scum isn't that dumb enough to screw up a claim... is it?

It wasn't a dumb move. This time it was a case of trying too hard. Trying to give fake flavor that he assumed he would have. For once it's a real slip!

Ben, where did he slip? I have half the brain you have so show me in pain staking detail and I'll chuck a vote for pend

He claimed vanilla.

He said his flavor (Yoshi) talked about being hungry and such.

But vanilla flavor's just say 'you have no powers'.

Thus the flavor he provided for vanilla was a lie.

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So unless he is lying because he is town power trying to hide as vanilla, then he is scum.

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This isn't some kind of next level stuff. This is just the simple fact of what has occurred today.
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~C~ FD
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate that list was created in 5 minutes, dont take it as gospel, just as a guide.

(That is not to say scanning me is a good idea. That would be a waste.)

In all seriousness, I'll see How this day ends and I'll make an informed decision on who to scsn

I do not trust you to do this.

Nor do I trust our supposed prostitute.

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I swear this is baby's first mafia or something with the way these night active have been squandered. And sure I'm at fault too for relying on them, but with the amount of time we've been granted we should be in a much better position.
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~C~ FD
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Umitencho posted...

Considering that the investigation keeps getting worse & worse for them, they know the last thing they need to be shouting is for an arrest. I am hearing Paul Manafort is gonna get his on Friday.

They are going to arrest him again??

From inside the prison?

That seems harsh.
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~C~ FD
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Eddv posted...

Well, for one thing its not just postal carriers.

Its all federal employees.

But I dunno "why". Just because?

As a federal employee for all of 2 months now, I can't complain.
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~C~ FD
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I'm sure I'm probably missing some stuff:

1. Benjamin3740 - vanilla
2. Hombad (Corrik)
3. Doopliss_Power
4. geno4smash - delayed miller? (Ridley)
5. Hbthebattle - lightning rod (Pichu)
6. Lolo_Guru - vanilla (Luigi)
7. Pendragon71037 - vanilla (Yoshi)
8. Forecful_Dragon - vanilla
9. Pirate_Harris (Shad) - cop (Mario)
10. Shonen_Bat - prosty (jigglypuff)
11. Terra-enforcer
12. TheSultanOfSlam

Lemme know what's missing.

And if you haven't claimed yet, today is the day.
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~C~ FD
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Okay. It is as I said before then.

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Meanwhile...

benjamin3740 posted...

But HB make sure to hint who you target tonight so that if you do die we have info

This is not a good post by Ben.

This is a "make sure scum can figure out who NOT to send the kill with" post.

And also pointless because 2 shots had already been claimed.
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~C~ FD
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So it's a 1 word response? @Pirate_Harris
Or is it 3 words?

X

Or

Y is X
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~C~ FD
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