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I do not know how to feel about this.

Whiskey_Nick posted...

only the worst of them because woman written by men

also this

i think there's absolutely something to be gleaned from the number of shows where the male characters are more popular than the female characters

but it isn't as simple as anyone being sexist for their preferences, it's not even about blaming the writers or anyone else, but there is a clear trend.

i'm a misandrist and i like elaine the most because she's a woman

if that counts

congrats

it's a very satisfying kill

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Man I really want to watch heroes to see the legendary drop off, but I feel like it's going to be way too dated now

tbh, there is a decent chance that season 1 isn't that good either

i mean this was 10 years ago, we were all like 13. it may not hold up.

scarletspeed7 posted...

30 Rock was the only show to deal with the writers' strike efficiently.

i was not even aware that 30 rock dealt with the writers strike.

so, yes, apparently.

at least heroes has the writers strike to blame

if i recall correctly, i used serena's, uh, bottom-right-skill-tree skill that prevents status effects? to prevent sylvando from getting charmed, then he could smack people. and erik has DoT damage so you can apply it once and then just... survive.

probably the toughest fight in the game

ya its rough

are you on harder monsters?

I hope it's a Vita version!

it's been a while since i watched seasons 1 and 2 but i remember being a bit disappointed when he killed people because i liked the idea that we were watching a show about someone who has to politically manipulate everything, not someone who can just resort to saying "well ok, can't get this with psychological tactics, guess i'll just kill"

there is way too much good tv out there for me to have any desire to continue watching house of cards

I definitely pronounce it "Bee-eight-ers"

FBike1 posted...

no one cares

uhhhhhh

an announcement of a new ys game is a pretty big deal dude

wait sorry i wasn't following this how did estelle bright get eliminated on day 1???? on board 8?????

NBIceman posted...

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SuperNiceDog posted...

this is another example of why video gaming is dying. It's way too hard to surprise people now in the age of pirating, trailers, open betas, alphas, PTR(public test realms).

ok sure you have a point that it's hard to have surprises in this day and age

but how is video game dying

where's your proof of this

There's no proof.

Revenue is growing in the industry every year and it's projected to continue growing faster than most other forms of entertainment.

tbh how much of this is from mobile games, in-game purchases, and lootboxes???

doesn't really matter to me i only play indie games on steam

SuperNiceDog posted...

this is another example of why video gaming is dying. It's way too hard to surprise people now in the age of pirating, trailers, open betas, alphas, PTR(public test realms).

ok sure you have a point that it's hard to have surprises in this day and age

but how is video game dying

where's your proof of this

no one wants to defend ulti, we just think this is juvenile

right i had snake reaching the final match too. i had cloud beating everyone but link and snake. i fucked up. but i guess others fucked up more

i guess so.

i guess maybe the majority who were ahead of me in the main bracket were ahead of me because my picks were almost worse than flipping a coin. but then at the end i'm still knowledgable enough to know who the noble nine are and why link/cloud will beat everyone, and apparently 65% of people don't

Safer_777 posted...

You picked correct the matches that gave lot of points.

but wouldn't most people? like all i did was have the noble nine win every watch they were in with almost no exceptions and then have link/cloud get to the end. but even then my bracket is still a minefield of yellow/red slots. and this is the easiest part to predict.

so my bracket this year fucking sucked. i made a lot of shitty picks, i had modern characters winning matches even though they never do, and i tried a few rally picks and they never happened.

so for pretty much the entire main bracket, i was down at around the 50th percentile.

then the finals bracket happens, and i still get a ton of shit wrong. i have points for link and cloud winning, but besides that i had stupid stuff like geralt being here and winning multiple times, snake making finals, and i didn't even have zelda anywhere. besides getting link and cloud winning everything right, the only things i did right was call crono and bowswer's paths correctly.

and yet now i end with 433 points which is 87th percentile?

how does this happen? people were clearly way better than me, and even in finals bracket i still fucked up just as much as the rest, but people got worse there somehow?

I'll give you the real answer

It's because this is a popularity contest

A very small minority of voters are like you and us, who think about which character is actually better.

The vast majority of voters just see a poll, they think "oh hey I know that character", they click, they vote, they move on

everyone has played zelda so link is one of the most recognizable in the contest.

and despite not being a good character, he's not bad either. his design is cool. he's neat.

so when link is vs someone that the person doesn't know and/or is from a game/series they don't care about as much, they will just vote link without thinking

and thus he makes it to the end

their thought process is "oh link is cool" and that's it

such a shame for them that there's an entire community of people who will avoid this game just because of it's name. we can't help ourselves.

I don't think FFVIIR will change anything. No one is looking forward to that game, and no one likes modern Final Fantasy. Chances are that game will not be considered good.

final fantasy characters losing to furry characters

uh

i guess that charm is strong when all your spells still cost like 2 mana

it's not very OP at all as you continue

i feel the losers bracket was already an excuse to see more NN matches, so i dunno if allen will want to do even more

Snrkiko posted...

oh and I'm playing with the hard enemies draconian quest... unsure how i feel about it

you made the right choice

game would be easy enough that you wouldn't have to really explore all of its mechanics otherwise

yeah i'm sure the vast majority of voters are thinking this way

5. One Vote per IP
Only one vote is allowed per IP THROUGHOUT the contest. So if you have voted this round you can't vote the next round.

I do kind of like this. People better think long and hard about which match they wanna vote in.

Hell, I'd even support a 4-battles per day format where you can only vote in one of the four.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

SuperNiceDog is funny because he's like a naive kid who came to hang out and learned everyone is a jerk and now he's jaded and has become a prick in his own right.

Moonroof is just a low quality troll.

i... don't think he's become a prick. i think he's trying to force that persona, but he just... isn't one.

you gotta use synonyms bro

i'm surprised you don't know this

why can't i vote wreath posthumously

i mean the first fictional character that came to mind was link because y'know i've been thinking a lot about link and contests for the past couple of hours and his name is plastered all over the board

but maybe this would work at another time

it's almost like the losers bracket should've mixed characters around from their original bracket positions

scabab posted...

Everyone knows Samus is a garbage character compared to Solid Snake but he won't win here because he's not a children's character.

i mean you're not entirely wrong but i also think it's a bit silly to talk about how undervalued snake is when he's in a group known as the elite of the elite in this contest who never loses to 95% of entrants

oh noooo, wreath got suspended?!

...so whose alt were they anyway?

i can almost see some of these catching on ironically

to be fair it really is kind of funny that even though LJA is a satire account, the image linked is very much a real non-satire thing

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Dels posted...

i guess my simplified view is if jontron legit said "yes i believe black people are inferior and we should be keeping them out of the country" then i'd be like "okay that is overtly racist, very bad, malicious" but when he hasn't quite said that, i'm still in "benefit of the doubt" mode. but that may be overly simplistic

<_< Is that really the only thing thatd make you think someone is racist or holds racist beliefs?

no i said that's the very simplified version

the line is... somewhere. i'd really have to judge in a case by case scenario haha. and there's a difference between overt racism and subconscious.

i don't really want to discuss that other than to say yeah you're right there's a lot of nuance so please don't take my simplified explanation there as anything other than one silly sentence

Jakyl25 posted...

If someone tells you wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites and you automatically believe it and repeat it without research, its because some part of that statement aligns enough with your prior ideas about race that you WANT to believe it.

yeah kind of this too. like if you tell me that statistic i will first of all press X to doubt, but also i'll think "well okay but can we examine the society those people live in, their economic standing, how they were brought up, how they were treated by society, etc, that might lead to a stat like that". so i can see why, if someone doesn't very thoroughly vet a statistic like that before quoting it, it's sort of... willful ignorance.

(for the record i have no clue where the stat comes from and/or what about it is wrong)

Punnyz posted...

I am both surprised and not surprised this topic is like this now

sorry >_> i think we're having a pretty civilized and reasonable discussion!

yeah, it's an unfortunate part of the human condition that whenever we are accused of being incorrect about something, we instinctively dig our heels in and overcommit. i don't know why. humans suck, i guess.

but this is sort of why echo chambers exist, and it's possible for someone like jontron, even with the entire internet at his disposal, to confine himself to places that continue to support his views, while being convinced that anyone with the opposite view is just a brainwashed liberal or whatever.

so on one hand i agree with you that the microcosm really should not exist, but i think current social media trends prove that you can make your own microcosm wherever you want, sometimes without even realizing you're doing it.

it's true that everyone thinks they are "on the right side", so actual maliciousness can be hard to define. i started to actually take a peek at some alt-right forums and realized that if you ask them, they will legit tell you "oh we have nothing against other races at all! we truly wish the best for them, we just think it should be in a country that isn't ours", so i had to sort of step back and be like "well shit wait, maybe it's harder than i thought to decide where the line is"

i guess my simplified view is if jontron legit said "yes i believe black people are inferior and we should be keeping them out of the country" then i'd be like "okay that is overtly racist, very bad, malicious" but when he hasn't quite said that, i'm still in "benefit of the doubt" mode. but that may be overly simplistic.

and yeah i agree with you that kneejerk condeming doesn't help, and also that we're not reinventing the wheel here, so whatever. but ty for explaining your PoV, i do want to eventually get to the point where I can sort out exactly how naive i should be vs how much of a harder stance i should take, so this helps.

yeah, fair point.

i mean i think you can do both - give people the benefit of the doubt, while not letting them off the hook.

like if jontron was my friend IRL i'd be like "hey dude, those people were wrong to attack you and call you a racist, BUT, like, can we talk about this because it sounds like you're really missing a lot of stuff and there's a reason why people were hurt by it"

but he's just some guy on the internet that i'll never have any contact with so all i can do is post on board 8

Well, those microcosms do exist. There are entire corners of the internet where the viewpoint that discrimination isn't actually a problem and that the country is totally fine, and anyone who tells you it isn't is just a racist or extremist or whatever themselves. And part of that is because certain buzzwords get overused to the point where the people who are susceptible to those views will start to see them as a joke or an exaggeration, which further makes those corners of the internet believe that they are in the right, and that they're fighting against a real enemy that is actually threatening, idk, the country, or white people, or etc. And the people in those corners of the internet are also an equal mix of actual malicious bigots vs naive people who get sucked in to it because it sounds sort of objectively right if you look at it from the right (wrong) angle.

Plus idk but I'm assuming certain parts of the country which are not as socially progressive do believe that concepts of privilege and inequality and etc are just liberal buzzwords are whatever, so those people will also believe the things Jontron believes, because they genuinely haven't experienced the other side.

Jontron's beliefs, even if they are naive or whatever, can still be harmful if people believe them, because there are people who are way more radical than him who will actually start to believe that shit like the gene pool and immigrants and whatever are a threat and might actually do something about it, so you're not wrong. I guess I just feel like the cure for ignorance is education and not just immediately assuming every ignorant person is malicious? Which is where my posts in this topic are coming from.

i mean, i never said his views weren't bad or that he shouldn't be strongly encouraged to change those views. i'm just saying that from what i can tell, it's not a case of him being an overtly hateful or prejudiced person, rather just naive and misinformed.if you consider that an "excuse" then fair enough, but i'm not saying not to stop watching his videos, just giving my PoV. i'm naive too so maybe i give people the benefit of the doubt when i shouldn't.

uh.

maybe i got the expression wrong...?

let me see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

okay, the word "never" is a bit misleading because i guess it implies (as you saw it) to never assume someone is malicious?

i guess what i meant is "sometimes things are malice and sometimes they are stupidity, so try to figure out which it is"