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TheChariot posted...

Wasn't he being mind controlled the moment Sidious killed Windu? As distrustful as he was against the Jedi, being crowned a Sith Lord should have set off some major red flags. Jedi = bad doesn't mean Sith = good.

I don't think there's any indication of mind control. He even immediately says "What have I done?" when Mace dies.

Perhaps some brain washing but everything just seems to progress too quick for that. Honestly at that point I think it would have made more sense for Anakin to just flee. Which really is probably how the second movie should have ended. The time between Palpatine declaring that the Jedi tried to assassinate him and Anakin falling with the Jedi purge really deserved to have more time to tell a good and coherent story.

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https://youtu.be/HQwApQSTer8

Take a shot every time there's a jump cut.

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I think "Politically Right, Not Correct" is the most beautiful Conservative catchphrase I've ever heard. It sums them up so well.

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legendarylemur posted...

Didn't he kill the younglings because he wanted all the Jedis to pay or whatever? On top of being denied master, they also made it difficult for him to figure out what might cause Padme to die according to his vision.

That would explain why he would want to get rid of the leadership. Not really his fellow Jedi or the ones underneath them.

legendarylemur posted...

Also didn't all the siths except him die too?

Yeah he killed Dooku earlier in the movie.

I don't think he ever put two and two together with that one.

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itachi15243 posted...

Is this supposed to be a play on Blackberrys matter?

I wonder what actor is so money starved they'd ruin their career and possibly life with any of these.

He's just some dude with barely any social media presence





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ScazarMeltex posted...

But bruh, they've got the one black guy.

Indeed!


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These look like fake shows made up for a GTA game.

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nfearurspecimn posted...

is this some forced meme? I don't get it

smh you don't remember

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Hayame Zero posted...

Still Force-sensitive. Palpatine still wanted the Force suppressed and diminished in numbers, even those who could be manipulated into the dark side

Okay but follow this logic from Anakin's perspective.

First he thinks the Jedi are unfairly going to depose and assassinate Palpatine. He stops them and kills Mace Windu in the process.

Palpatine immediately crowns him a fellow Sith Lord. Okay. Maybe at this point he still thinks that the Sith are better than the Jedi thanks to Palpatine.

Then at some point (off screen I think?) he's ordered to eliminate all Jedi including children. Despite he himself waking up as a Jedi that morning this doesn't seem to register as anything to be suspicious over and follows it without question.

We definitely skimmed over a major part of his character development to go from Jedi to Jedi Child Killer.

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Just saw that the flight attendants already sued Flair back in 2004 over it. Yet here we are 17 years later.

Also that the incident lead to a bunch of lower carders like Goldust and Scott Hall being fired. Didn't know the reason why they were gone back then.

Crazy how much time changes. I knew nothing about this until now. Makes you wonder how many times this has happened on these private planes with no real consequence.

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TetsuoS2 posted...

i also dont understand how going into the dark side instantly meant killing a dozen+ kids.

The only explanation that really makes sense is that falling to the Dark Side corrupts you to the point where you no longer have morals and you change as a person.

Although why Palpatine crowning him as Vader was the actual thing that made him completely fall still doesn't really make sense.

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jumi posted...

I enjoy AC games, and it looks more polished than those, so I figured I'd like it.

Yeah you should like it. It's basically an AC game with a better story.

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A_QuietPlace462 posted...

The app is adding fuel to fire, that's why it's relevant here but whatever

It's not. Melbourne aren't using the app.

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Do you remember.
It was the 21st night of September

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TheShadowViper posted...

So after most of your bullshit you just go with "it doesn't matter because x - which isn't even remotely as egregious - existed in a superior game with a far better narrative."

I don't blame you, you have gotten pretty much every detail wrong and don't seem to understand the concept that not only is that contrived coincidence dependent on multiple variables miraculously working out in Abby's favor, but that isn't even the only laughable part of that opening, which includes shit like Tommy getting knocked out without incident and Elle magically arriving and getting captured without incident. And such poor writing doesn't stop there, you have everything from Elle dropping the map to her secret base to Elle magically sparing Abby despite having no reason to do so (as she cut through hundreds to get to Abby and, unlike the player, has not walked in her shoes).

The writer wanted things to happen and didn't care, or didn't have the skill to make those events happen in a believable way. That is called bad writing.

Your hand waving denial does not change that.

I think it's more of an example of nitpicking in a game for something that's remarkably common in general. Especially zombie fiction. If this kind of stuff didn't exist you'd have a bunch of characters just separating and never finding each other again and things would just sort of happen with no real narrative pace to them.

As long as there's reasons for the characters to be there and to be doing what they're doing it's really not that big of a deal. When I play through Mass Effect I'm not complaining about Shepard bumping into old friends by coincidence despite it taking place in a huge universe. It even happens another time in the first game when the Fireflies just happen to find Ellie after she almost drowned.

Joel had a logical reason to be where he was. Abby got lucky but it wasn't a huge stretch that she was. Just like all of the other times stuff like this happens. If you didn't already dislike the plot for other reasons you wouldn't care.

Maninstagnate posted...

Not really Sean Bean probably knew he be in one season from the GRRM's material and why HBO put a likable major Hollywood star for that role.

And would they not know the same thing about Pedro and TLOU?

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TheShadowViper posted...

They didn't know what he looked like. They didn't know he would be patrolling. They didn't even know he was in that state. They were there looking for a settlement in Wyoming where they heard Tommy (Joel's brother) was...that is all they knew. While searching for this settlement - that they didn't have the name of - for Joel's brother they just happened to run into the target of their search and they just happened to get him herded into their base and he just happened to act like a complete idiot.

You don't even know what happened, let alone why it is so laughably contrived.

From what we know Jackson was the only notable one near Wyoming. From there it's really not that huge of a stretch. Tommy isn't just some no name random. He's the leader of the town and they're looking for his brother.

They weren't planning on meeting him on a patrol. But of course Joel and Tommy would be patrolling. It's not like they are random guys who primarily sit at home and just happened to be out that day. Patrolling would be a regular thing for them. They would have recruited many people out there. They were stuck in a blizzard and taking shelter with her people made sense to them. Joel was not a ruthless killer anymore. He lived in a peaceful town and had spent years helping others. Of course that would change him. That's part of the tragedy of the character.

If it changed where they found out about Joel from some random character like Jesse and then assassinated Joel in his town it would be a lot more boring to play. It's still a video game. Contrivances like this are all over both games. They're over every video game. Nobody complained that Joel knew how to find Ellie when he woke up from being injured.

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RoseLuck2022462 posted...

What exactly am I wrong about?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKCN22806F

The app is an alternative to hotel quarantine. It has nothing to do with the construction worker protests. They're protesting against employer mandated vaccinations.

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TheShadowViper posted...

Abby taking people from the area surrounding Jackson in order to find Joel and then launching an attack on it sounds far better than the contrived situation that occurred.

Not only are you a hand waver, but you have a shitty imagination. Unsurprising.

By the way, do you know why that didn't happen? Because the writer didn't want people to be further against Abby by having her kill or maim people other than Joel before the plot got going. So she just happens to run into him - cutting out the need for collateral damage.

Contrived garbage.

It happened because Abby and friends didn't want to wage war on a town. They wanted to kill Joel. That's it. That's how they justified their brutality towards him.

I'm not sure why you think a handful of people going to war against an entire settlement is a better plot honestly. That seems a lot more difficult to figure out which was actually Joel.

And again Joel was someone who would be out patrolling. It's not as much of a stretch as you're acting. It was either him, Tommy, Ellie, Jesse and maybe a couple of more people at most. Yes they got lucky that Joel was someone who'd patrol but of course he would be doing that.

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unnamedsoldier posted...

Probably because we played as him for a whole game and got to empathize with him

Which is why the game still portrays it as a horrific moment that wants you to get revenge as Ellie. It's a series with complex characters that have conflicting motivations.

I think we have enough superhero video game protagonists who don't experience any long term consequences.

TheShadowViper posted...

As suspected, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Much of what you said here is flat out wrong.

Like?

TheShadowViper posted...

Do you understand that Joel was acting massively out of character by not only trusting these random people, but lowering his guard (something that only happens so the plot can have Elle see him die).

He's not the same man he was in the first game. This was again pretty obvious. Hell it was obvious during the first game he was changing as a person.

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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

legit criticism:
-Last Of Us can have uncensored explicit sex scenes meanwhile games from Japan have to be heavily censored to the point characters have different appearances and certain scenes are changed/completely removed. Unlockable outfits are also removed if they were too suggestive.

That's on Sony the platform holder more than Naughty Dog. Western games in general get that treatment.

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TheShadowViper posted...

You can find numerous youtube videos that are 40 minutes long describing the numerous examples of why The Last of Us 2's story is garbage.

But I'll give you the jist, the story is a giant contrived mess dependent on extraordinary circumstances and characters carrying the idiot ball.

Spoilers below.

The game begins with Abby journeying from Seattle looking for someone she knows only by name and just happens to run into him in the middle of a snow storm while infected are attacking where they just happen to get herded towards her base where Joel and his brother just happen to forget they weren't complete morons allowing them to just happen to get caught without incident. This happens in order for Elle to witness Joel getting killed. Abby then just happens to spare Elle, despite Elle threatening her life and it generally being monumentally safer to just kill the person who threatened her life and the brother of the man she just brutally murdered and who had already pointed out he had allies nearby. Her decision results in the death of her entire team.

Most people were not upset that Joel died, but rather that the circumstances of his death and plot around the game is laughable garbage with characters constantly holding the idiot ball in order to move the game forward. In order to enjoy the game, you have to either ignore the story, or be too dumb to see how poorly written it is.

Joel is one of the most notable people of that settlement. Anyone who passed through would know him. Joel, Ellie and his brother are also the people who patrol outside of town. Abby only had a handful of people they could possibly encounter anyway.

There was no reason for Tommy and Joel to expect one of them to be brutally murdered. If it wasn't Joel they wouldn't have been.

It wouldn't have changed much either way. They would have played friendly before getting an opportunity to kill Joel anyway. He wasn't a hard man to find and he wasn't trying to be. Abby and the gang didn't kill anyone else because they tried to justify it to themselves that they were carrying out justice. That was rather obvious I thought.

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Maninstagnate posted...

Neil Druckmann and the other developers were actually worried of the backlash they gotten from the leaks.

No shit. They were targeted with a lot of hate.

Maninstagnate posted...

I bet HBO has more control over the TV show's script and I doubt they would let Neil be able to kill off any of the major characters to replace them with unlikable ones.

HBO is totally fine with killing off major characters.

Joel would last one episode longer than Ned Stark did in GOT.

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The military is helping to support the police enforce lockdowns. They're not armed.

RoseLuck2022462 posted...

With what's going on over there, especially that app where you have submit a selfie every hour, I can see why they're particularly angry.m.

There is nothing about this post that is correct.

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Stalolin posted...

I think that leak did a lot to shape overall opinion of the game. I wonder how it would have been received if that never happened.

Assuming the TV show is successful enough to adapt the sequel I wonder how it will be received there. TV audiences are a lot more used to stuff like this.

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TheRadiant posted...

I literally called Joel's death in the first teaser I don't know how anyone was shocked by it

Originally the anger was twisted to make it that it was more about him being portrayed as a villain. People still purposefully misinterpret the game this way.

iPhone_7 posted...

Didnt a Call of Duty developer get death threats because of some small change to a multiplayer mechanic?

Yep

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DepreceV2 posted...

Got to attempt to cover themselves LMAO

Sucks for Australian people who signed this lol





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GamerNumber152 posted...

Lmao. Nope.

They forced everyone to download an app that keeps track of where you are. If they ping you and ask where you're at, you have to reply and you better take a pic or whatever to prove you are where you say you are within 10-15 minutes or police will be sent to investigate.

They take their lockdowns dangerously seriously.

Wrong

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> I agree to never complain about paying for games no matter the cost
> I will never blindly defend Playstation

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A whole bunch of them sent death threats to the developers. A lot still whine about Druckmann to this day.

I remember the original interpretations of controlling Abby in the second half of the game to hunt down and kill both Joel and Ellie and they would be seen as the villains of the game. I remember people also saying that Abby was trans. Neither of these were correct.

Then the game came out and despite predictions to the contrary the discourse overall calmed down. It proceeded to be both a sales and critical success. Although for some bizarre reason Ghost of Tsushima is sometimes pitted against it.

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I sort of miss the era of trash licensed games. There were games based on the most random crap.

There was nothing else noteworthy about 99% of these games but that just often made them more amusing.

I found out about the American Idol game last week and it looks hilarious. It's a rhythm game where the inputs don't even match the song.

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Is there anything that someone won't defend on CE?

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Did you know that the Jurassic Park ride also has its own video game spin off where the synopsis is that the ride designers were cloning real dinosaurs for the ride and they go out of control? I think it was a browser game.

Games based on theme parks is such a weird concept.

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trappedunderice posted...

He played a really good badguy in Broken Arrow.

I enjoyed him as a bad guy in The Punisher too.

He does a good job playing a villain thinking about it.

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Sorry to hear that. It's just an awful loss and such a traumatic experience.

I know a coworker who had a miscarriage a while back (she has two kids previously) around that timeframe as well. Definitely far enough where her pregnancy was public and announced. She has since managed to have another kid. I hope it works out for you both in the future as well.

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OrangeWizard posted...

Mismanagement is why there are so few hospital beds to begin with.

Not really? Health systems aren't designed for so many people to get sick at once. We have been warned about this for over a year now. It's happening everywhere.

Many, many people who are currently there have a way to help lessen the strain but have decided not to use it because they're selfish and/or lazy.

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sabrestorm posted...

Doesnt mean he is right

Regardless of what you believe that is right though lol

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sabrestorm posted...

I didnt like conan or leno, I didnt think either weree as good as letterman, but leno had zero to do with Conan, it was a network decision

The network decision was due to a Leno decision of agreeing to retire and then deciding to stick around.

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https://youtu.be/PBtitOjc6Rg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8vB6TLO20

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Yeah that's the thing with Leno. If he took the cushy job from ABC or Fox he wouldn't have had any dramas. It's all up to NBC then.

Leno hanging around was like an ex-boyfriend hovering around a new relationship asking for another chance. Tonight Show transitions need time.

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Mr Hangman posted...

I don't think that's quite right. As I remember it, what NBC wanted was for Conan to keep "The Tonight Show", but to move the time slot later, putting Jay back where he was but with a shorter show. Conan thought that would kill The Tonight Show and chose to sacrifice himself to maintain its legacy. Seems weird to me but I guess it makes sense if you grew up with Carson.

There's a lot more to it than that.

Conan wanted to take over the Tonight Show and was the entire reason he stuck around NBC. In order to keep Conan around long term they got Jay Leno to agree to hand the reigns to Conan in 2009. Leno didn't really want to retire but agreed anyway.

In the lead up to that moment ABC and Fox were trying to get Leno and NBC got cold feet. They even considered buying out Conan's contract. Instead they gave Leno a new show at the earlier slot trying to have their cake and eat it too. When this wasn't really working that's when they found out a loophole in Conan's contract that they could push the shows back an hour to try and get things as they were. Leno was basically getting priority with the execs at this point who were constantly looking for ways to crew over Conan. Then the shit show really got started that eventually lead to NBC paying off Conan to quit.

The problem with Leno is that he's a corporate stooge. There's a reason Leno has had this controversy twice.

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SomeLikeItHoth posted...

Conan fucked over George Lopez in the process when he took his spot. I always found that ironic.

George who?

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https://deadline.com/2021/09/jay-leno-you-bet-your-life-late-night-conan-obrien-1234832115/

Asked about Conan OBriens farewell on TBS, where his nightly talk show ended in the spring, he mused, Hes very good. People get mad at me because somehow I . Its a network decision, he said, alluding to the high drama a decade ago around the NBC late-night block. OBrien was anointed by NBC as the successor to Leno, but the network reversed course, leaving OBrien without a network home (but with tens of millions of dollars for his trouble). They take the show away and then they go, Will you come back? And you go, Really? Is that what you want? Fine. I certainly hold no ill will. Its a business.

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Xethuminra posted...

^what the defense force looked like in 2011^

First Class was good though.

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Hexenherz posted...

I barely even saw anything about DR3, what was the timer like in there?

Basically one big long one to beat the game by.

Nightmare mode shortened the timer and that was what was supposed to be for the 'hardcore fans'

I think the best middle ground is probably to just make it that the timer only progresses with the main cases on casual mode. Would still be a more boring game but at least the option for a traditional experience is there. They were just looking at the 'issue' from the wrong perspective. Design the game around the timer and then work out an optional way around it. Not the other way around.

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Looks fun to me.

All of this is pretty normal for immersive sims. The more freedom the player has the easier it is to take advantage and break.

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Dead Rising's 3 timer was pointless. People didn't like the timer because of the time limit. It was the scheduled days.

It was the ultimate example of trying to please both camps but pleasing neither.

You can really see them floundering to figure out how to incorporate survivors without a proper timer. It was just sad when eventually they were just generic NPC's.

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I should also point out that the idea for Dead Rising 5 was to copy The Last of Us.

If all games just want to play like each other what is even the point of having different franchises.

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CADE FOSTER posted...

dr had 4 games thats plenty franchise cant last forever besides state of decay is coming that will tide you over

State of Decay is nothing like Dead Rising.

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dave_is_slick posted...

Me. Timers suck.

It's fine if you think that but like I said they removed the timers in these games and they both lost fans of the originals and people who complained about the timer didn't buy it anyway. So it was for nothing.

Sometimes listening to the mainstream audience isn't the right move. Sometimes it's better to appeal to a specific hardcore audience.

Number090684 posted...

It's still survival horror considering everything that is out to kill you.

Nah resource management isn't an issue and that's a fundamental part of any survival horror game.

The only resource to manage was time. Without that there's nothing left.

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