Lurker > Crescent-Moon

Oh Puns is at 5.

##Vote: Puns

Guess I'll make it 6 after all. Should be plenty to get his attention.

My personal top 3 is some order of Puns/Han/FD. There was a lot of minor shade thrown on Sceptile later on yesterday and Han started a splinter on him that multiple people (including my top town read in MI) called "tempting". I think it's possible that "board 8 special Sceptile" may have been another attempt to save Deadpool. I still dislike the way Sceptile voted Chris and vanished to the first bit of pressure, but I don't feel a strong desire to lynch him.

The real problem I have with FD is he got extremely defensive at the slightest drop of pressure. Instead of defending himself, he quickly attacked the credibility of the initial source. He didn't seem to be interested in talking to Nana; he only seemed to be interested in downplaying him. It's very evasive to attack the player instead of the argument.

MI's argument against Puns feels fairly solid. He quoted a post I've been hung up over: One that clearly states lynching Chris is more for the sake of lynching Chris than actually calling him scum. Yesterday I was torn between some of his bad posts and the fact that he was one of the primary pot stirrers. I don't have much to add to this, but it leads me to two other things.

The point MI makes about Turbo's Chris vote is conversely why I like MI's vote on Deadpool. It was a vote he didn't have to make, and he left himself a serious out on someone like Sceptile at the end of the day. MI had voiced concerns over Sceptile at this point, but he didn't bite. He could've excused biting on that splinter.

The initial hangup with Puns was related to the biggest hangup I had with Scare on day 1. Scare felt like he was passively riding Chris just for the sake of it. The difference Scare turned around and gave an argument I felt was better than the one already there, and he didn't really waver afterwards. Scare has since turned into what I expected to see of him in this game if he were town, and I think he's probably town that was on the wrong lynch.

I believe Puns is already at 6 votes and that should be plenty to get a claim. He should claim as soon as he comes back.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I had no intention of pushing a Shad lynch the first time I voted him. The second time, I had all the intention but I was pretty much stonewalled by the people who were present.

I'd love to have gotten SOMETHING to happen in the last hour of D1, but meta seems to have shifted to "piddle around until deadline". Still, a dead Scum is a good result so I won't complain too much.

Zam is still a good avenue, but I feel we can put him off. Chris would want a Scept train right now and I don't mind pressuring him. Arti as well. Shad is Scum. FD has potential, but I have had like 3 Scum gut reads on him and 5 Town gut reads, so I've been hesitant because I tend to be more correct with my Town reads, so I think he's a wrong avenue to approach. Death has been floating by with little notice and that reminds me of all the times I've lackadaisically thrown him onto my Scummish list without pushing for him at all. Donker?

I'm not into the puns train. His attitude still very much feels like what I remember Town puns being like, and I trust my gut.

##Vote: Shad

I agree with Scare on Shad. The guy tends to stay pretty narrow in the scope of his game and tends to not overstep his bounds, and that's what I'm seeing here.

If one more person says I'm not seriously interested in pushing for a Shad lynch I will day vig them.

I still haven't seen a serious argument on you for why you're voting for Shad.

Also, Leo: Missile?

Shaduln posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Do we tie this up for more discussion? Or do we let the chips fall where they fall?

Who do you want dead between Chris and prof?

Calls for a potential tie very late when he's on neither lynch, gets some backlash, and then..

Dark Young Link posted...

red13n posted...

you vote for who you think is scum.

Well that is what I'm doing.

Shaduln posted...

Who do you want dead between Chris and prof?

Well the problem for me is that I don't trust either of them. >_>

Calls Alakazam scum again and totally avoids the question.

DYL: Why were you comfortable on a splinter vote so late if you didn't like either of the leaders either?

My Immortal posted...

I haven't fact checked FDs claim that fool was making up wrong information about him but he claims it.

Fool made up (and is still saying today) that Chris defended deadpool

Made up that I voted Chris.

What's going on fool

What was your stance on Alakazam yesterday again?

htaeD posted...

and flavorwise, a kidnapper makes sense

anyway some thoughts I had yesterday
I was still leading with the idea that Chris and Deadpool might both be scum, as Chris went out of his way to not bother with deadpool for so long, but that went out the window mostly once chris voted the scum roleblocker

Alakazams posts I dont like for most of the end of the day, but for a while I also wondered if he was scums fallguy
but that too depended on Chris being scum, which is doubtful, so I am coming back to Zam just looking terrible. Particularly when he voted Corrik despite saying he worships Corrik
alakazam insisting trucy wright has to be a town claim is almost dumb and naive enough for me to start considering him town again though

On the other hand corrik still defended Zam (and deadpool) and looked terrible too (wtf was even up with him putting words in zams mouth and Chris agreeing with it)
inversely, I like MI for pointing out all the contradictions Zam was making

then there was foolmo, who sounded too whiny about deadpool getting votes, as if he wanted to know what deadpool did wrong
voting Deadpool and then dropping that vote for Chris, a very scummy thing to do

I appreciated crescent making people focus on deadpool again, and DYL and MI for sticking with never trusting deadpool

did not appreciate Han trying to move with his Shad tangent, I feel like scum was desperate at this point to get town away from their roleblocker

then chris started pushing sceptile, and some players certainly seemed tempted by it (Shad, Arti, Leo)
Leo also tried to make something out of pushing Nana once Chris voted deadpool
he came through in the end, but I cant deny that this was perhaps scum throwing in the towel

for his part, at least FD didnt take the bait, but he still stayed on zam which was useless at that point

and sceptile going back to voting Chris I also didnt like

so Crescent, MI, DYL went up in my books
Leo is kinda eh, Zam is a mystery, Shad I could see as scum or an easy target
Han, Foolmo and Sceptile went down closer to scumtown

Don't feel like DYL was that much of a factor. He also never showed any serious desire to lynch anyone but Alakazam and never stopped tunneling him late.

(Also MI never showed even much of an interest in the Chris lynch most of the time. Was calling him town almost all day.)

foolm0r0n posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

I think the order you're referring to was Chris/Alakazam/Deadpool/Corrik.

Yes and the Chris/Corrik relation was very much based on them both being scum. If they aren't both scum (we don't know if Chris was or not?) then I am pretty warm on Corrik right now.

Also before I leave I'll drop this:
##Vote: My Immortal


I mentioned my top 3 day 1 scumtells yesterday but I have a secret 4th scumtell (or rather it's my 1st scumtell cuz it has by far the highest success rate): the 2nd-to-last voter on an obvious scumtrain. I mentioned last day how weird MI was acting, and I feel way worse about him now after all these reveals.

The only thing I didn't like about it was the tone, as I don't really understand the "Swinging for the fences" after he repeatedly called Chris town all day. However, I like the placement, as I feel like he could have pretty easily hopped onto one of the splinters and avoided putting Deadpool 2 up with 20 minutes to go.

MI, question. Refresh me on your Alakazam stance yesterday?

I believe lawyer is a role that's like a mayor, but instead of stopping the lynch it moves it to someone else?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Corrik posted...

Can anyone call up the post where foolmo posts the order of his scum list and their scumminess. I believe Deadpool was 3rd.

I think the order you're referring to was Chris/Alakazam/Deadpool/Corrik.

My Immortal posted...

That seems like a really weak case tbh

There's probably at least one scum on the prof lynch.

But I certainly wouldn't focus on trying to find that one today

Leo felt like he was playing loose and cared a little more about the game than he wanted to let on. I'm fine with him.

Sidebar: This is a bit confusing. Is kidnapper some sort of role?

ScareChan posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

ScareChan posted...

Scum shad loves to park a vote on a scumbuddy and leave it there all day by the way. Shad is very likely scum

and I feel like the way Han went at him that Han is also scum

I don't feel like Han ever made a serious attempt to push a Shad lynch despite voting him twice.

Thats kind of my point!

I would also say he sounded hostile anytime someone questioned him on it.

ScareChan posted...

Scum shad loves to park a vote on a scumbuddy and leave it there all day by the way. Shad is very likely scum

and I feel like the way Han went at him that Han is also scum

I don't feel like Han ever made a serious attempt to push a Shad lynch despite voting him twice.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

The thing that bothers me about Han right now is he's never had his vote on Chris or Deadpool but he's had it on several other players. Even in the final 5 minutes he's trying to splinter.

Why would I ever have my vote on either one?

Most of your votes have been strictly inconsequential to the game.

The thing that bothers me about Han right now is he's never had his vote on Chris or Deadpool but he's had it on several other players. Even in the final 5 minutes he's trying to splinter.

Arti posted...

eaed, Nana, and Donker I think?

Why answer for him?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Shaduln posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

What are the options right now? Besides Zam, Chris, and prof? I don't feel particularly keen on pushing Nana, nor do I think we'll get anything out of that, but I'm the only other person at the moment who seems to be presenting any alternatives.

Sceptile is someone a few of us have brought up as well.

Hmm I do like that as an option.

I am weary of Sceptile, but I think any splinter right now is more likely to be a diversion than anything.

My Immortal posted...

##Vote: deadpool

I feel like this is a vote I'll regret post game but I gotta go with my gut and not go for the swinging for the fences.

"Swinging for the fences"?

Dark Young Link posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

red13n posted...

what reason is there to not push nana now?

Having a stronger scum read on Zam for starters.

Still waiting for an explanation as to why he's town. I hear people saying "He's town" but I don't recall them really stating why.

What's your #2 and #3 scumread?

Eh, I don't really have that much faith in my other reads (At least not day 1)

Chris is concerning because I feel like Town Chris would be more aggressive than what he's been like thus far. If he gets feisty in these last 30 minutes, that wouldn't make me feel any more comfortable since it would just feel like a last minute special attempt.

3rd is basically anyone that tries to special someone from this point forward. >_> Splinter lynches are scum AF. I don't feel good about prof, but "Oh, I suspect the three current lynch leads" just makes me think I'm wrong about two of them. It's just too easy, you know?

My personal issue is that I have a bunch of people I'm looking at... that I'm not going to be confident about(one way or the other) until day 2. Something that doesn't help when there's a non zero chance I don't even make it to day 2, and certainly doesn't help now. I hate the "maybies" and "I don't knows", but day 1 is a hindsight day for me.

Though one of the people I have iffy feelings on is red. Going to double check that feeling before day ends.

So what's your take of Han voting Shad?

Shaduln posted...

Shaduln posted...

So Han, other than me, who do you want to lynch?

Same question to DYL about Alakazam.

Dark Young Link posted...

red13n posted...

what reason is there to not push nana now?

Having a stronger scum read on Zam for starters.

Still waiting for an explanation as to why he's town. I hear people saying "He's town" but I don't recall them really stating why.

What's your #2 and #3 scumread?

profDEADPOOL posted...

My Immortal posted...

What do you recall from Eaed?

Forgot was playing.

My Immortal posted...

From Shad?

Shad's very difficult for me to read.

My Immortal posted...

From Scare?

I know they've made posts, I don't really recall the details but they were content IIRC.

So... "Nothing"

"Nothing"

and

"Nothing"

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Somewhat dislike both. Han's voted a lot but the votes are forgettable and lack force. Aside from his early vote on Alakazam, these votes have been in relatively meaningless positions. Both Shad votes in the game are now from Han.

Hey, at least you remember my votes are forgettable. Meanwhile, Crescent is in this game?

I thought your last Shad vote/subsequent unvote was garbage as well.

Because it was a joke in the moment. I had no interest in pushing pressure on him. Did you even read that interaction? Have you read my posts?

I gave my reasoning for why Shad pinged my gut originally. He said "wat do words mean" and I voted him to explain the simple fact that he looked bad for the reasons I stated. It's really easy to understand that if you bother reading the game.

Since then, Shad has basically popped in time and time again to offer weak pushback at me, and to repeat what other people have said about prof.

Actually I think Shad's been pretty important in making sure people don't forget about Deadpool.

You only gave that reason in the same post you unvoted him and this is the first you've said of that vote being a joke.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Somewhat dislike both. Han's voted a lot but the votes are forgettable and lack force. Aside from his early vote on Alakazam, these votes have been in relatively meaningless positions. Both Shad votes in the game are now from Han.

Hey, at least you remember my votes are forgettable. Meanwhile, Crescent is in this game?

I thought your last Shad vote/subsequent unvote was garbage as well.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

It WAS compelling though.

Why?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Hey EVERYONE, thoughts on HAN and SCEPTILE.

Favourable towards han atm.

Neutral/Unfavorable towards sceptiple.

Somewhat dislike both. Han's voted a lot but the votes are forgettable and lack force. Aside from his early vote on Alakazam, these votes have been in relatively meaningless positions. Both Shad votes in the game are now from Han.

Sceptile's Chris vote came out of nowhere and I dislike how set he seemed to be it in. He then went off the radar (and even admitted it) after getting pressure.

I don't feel any compulsion towards a Shad lynch at present and I don't feel Han's vote was particularly compelling.

turbopuns2 posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

True.

Was wanting me to show up for much longer tho. Pinged me to try and get me to back in topic 1, was consistent in saying I wasn't giving much(which I don't deny at all. Work on Saturday killed me and I had another long day today(thankfully the shitty weather meant it wasn't busy so I recovered somewhat) so my dealing with people brain hasn't been anywhere near my peak).

Deadpool.

Humor me. Please summarize from start-of-game to present, your reads and engagement (or lack thereof) for the entire game.

Like basically if you were to tell someone you know irl about this game and every thought you ever had about it. Give me that.

Second this. I don't feel he gave very much reason for anything he listed, and there's certainly time for a response.

My Immortal posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

My Immortal posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

I'm not familiar enough with the series to really meta claims.

Also safelists exist.

Also meta traps exist, and anyone putting 100% faith in flavor would deserve to get blown up by one.

Again, looking for reasons Zam is town.

I'm looking for reasons you're saying he's scum with this much certainty.

>Last time he was town he claimed no one should ever claim D1. This game he claimed under minimal pressure (to specifically replicate his town game) and also has been voting people only for claiming
>Everything about his interaction with Chris & Corrik in the past two hours does not come off as town

Those are my top 2 reasons

I also asked you what you think of Deadpool and Chris just a bit ago.

Missed that, sorry.

Deadpool is probably my top scum read right now.

Chris I'm not feeling strongly one way or another. Probably a slight town read.

This was to DYL but this feels consistent with what you've said today.

profDEADPOOL posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

Scum #1 is obviously Zam, 2 is Nana because the only thing at all I recall from them is talking about their RL mafia game, which was later in topic 1 than random bullshit like that should be. 3 is NewDonker who has done what exactly.

For town, 1 and 2 are Chris/Corrik. As I already said Corrik's attack on Chris feel like town Corrik thinking Chris is scum and rushing the lynch because he doesn't think it will happen otherwise.

However Chris' response to the pressure also feels rather towny to me, as does the fact that he's been consistently floating multiple opinions and looking for scum outside of just a main target.

3rd town would be Crescent cause they've done a good job at being consistent and explaining themself.

The mention of Cresc is interesting. Was there a post in particular that made you like them?

Not really.

It's the consistency shown across the posts. Views on me not wavering when I was busy with work and therefore they shouldn't have imo. That plus the fact that all their views have been explained but that's also something that's more of an overall theme than in one specific post.

profDEADPOOL posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

Scum #1 is obviously Zam, 2 is Nana because the only thing at all I recall from them is talking about their RL mafia game, which was later in topic 1 than random bullshit like that should be. 3 is NewDonker who has done what exactly.

For town, 1 and 2 are Chris/Corrik. As I already said Corrik's attack on Chris feel like town Corrik thinking Chris is scum and rushing the lynch because he doesn't think it will happen otherwise.

However Chris' response to the pressure also feels rather towny to me, as does the fact that he's been consistently floating multiple opinions and looking for scum outside of just a main target.

3rd town would be Crescent cause they've done a good job at being consistent and explaining themself.

The mention of Cresc is interesting. Was there a post in particular that made you like them?

Not really.

It's the consistency shown across the posts. Views on me not wavering when I was busy with work and therefore they shouldn't have imo. That plus the fact that all their views have been explained but that's also something that's more of an overall theme than in one specific post.

This seems... Very centered on you. What do you even mean by "all their views have been explained"?

profDEADPOOL posted...

3rd town would be Crescent cause they've done a good job at being consistent and explaining themself.

I'd like some elaboration on this given I'm pretty sure you've never mentioned me once before this post.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Does no one have any problem with Sceptile just admitting to lurking. Anyone?

Sceptile does feel like he went off the radar when he got some pressure.

I'm not sure what to make of him admitting it.

foolm0r0n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Sceptile coming back like a ninja after prof appears.

Also Crescent and Arti

Arti posted 17 minutes before Deadpool did. To say Arti "came back" after Deadpool's reappearance is false.

My Immortal posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

I'm not familiar enough with the series to really meta claims.

Also safelists exist.

Also meta traps exist, and anyone putting 100% faith in flavor would deserve to get blown up by one.

Again, looking for reasons Zam is town.

I'm looking for reasons you're saying he's scum with this much certainty.

>Last time he was town he claimed no one should ever claim D1. This game he claimed under minimal pressure (to specifically replicate his town game) and also has been voting people only for claiming
>Everything about his interaction with Chris & Corrik in the past two hours does not come off as town

Those are my top 2 reasons

I also asked you what you think of Deadpool and Chris just a bit ago.

red13n posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

red13n posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like we're losing sight that this is a likely scum that's trying to idle out the day, and a lot of people are making excuses to dodge it. Deadpool was once well in the lead and he has done nothing since.

being bad and then being afk is par for the course for both town and scum deadpool.

The real problem I have is the last time he was here he did absolutely nothing. The pressure was already mounting and he barely even gave an effort..

prof doesn't feel any real pressure because he barely cares about anything.

If that were true, why would he even play?

red13n posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like we're losing sight that this is a likely scum that's trying to idle out the day, and a lot of people are making excuses to dodge it. Deadpool was once well in the lead and he has done nothing since.

being bad and then being afk is par for the course for both town and scum deadpool.

The real problem I have is the last time he was here he did absolutely nothing. The pressure was already mounting and he barely even gave an effort..

Dark Young Link posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

You really think that a claim of Trucy Wright, is a fake claim given the flavor?

I'm not familiar enough with the series to really meta claims.

Also safelists exist.

Also meta traps exist, and anyone putting 100% faith in flavor would deserve to get blown up by one.

Again, looking for reasons Zam is town.

I'm looking for reasons you're saying he's scum with this much certainty.

Oh he posted right before I did

Shaduln posted...

Shaduln posted...

I really don't like all of the people that have said "I still think deadpool is scum" and have unvoted.

prof is literally idling out on purpose to hope that another lynch will gather enough steam that he doesn't need to claim.

(Which seems to be working btw)

This is the *resounding* feeling I am currently getting. I've also liked what I've read from Shad in my catchup in general.

##Vote: Deadpool

I feel like we're losing sight that this is a likely scum that's trying to idle out the day, and a lot of people are making excuses to dodge it. Deadpool was once well in the lead and he has done nothing since.

Especially comparing him to Alakazam: Alakazam claimed and has stuck around. He hasn't looked great, but he's been steadily posting. Deadpool's gone flat out inactive and has contributed very little. I would like people who seem comfortable letting that go elaborate with more than "Oh Deadpool is just a bad player" for a reason why. Chris could be scum, but I think Deadpool is more likely because he feels like he's been in hiding. There's barely more than 2 hours left in the day; we should flush him out.

DYL, what are your full reasons for voting Alakazam? What's your read on Chris and Deadpool? You seem to be hinging your argument more on "There's no reason to call him town" than "This is why I think he's scum".

The first post that leads it off is post #304 of topic 1. MI responds to it in post #306 about a minute and a half later. Reposted at #344 after Alakazam returns, but he does not answer until #397.

Corrik posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

My Immortal posted...

htaeD posted...

Interesting Corrik, mind restating or pointing me to your MI argument?

also why zam as town?

As far as I know it's because I don't want to lynch Chris today.

Corrik, what do you make of MI's behavior regarding Alakazam last night, when Alakazam was evading me?

Refresh me on the interaction, but I believe MI is scum and is just trying to stay in the background but try to coax along an easy mislynch candidate.

Alakazam had made context less allusions to Nana. I asked him a double question: "What has Nana posted of any significance? Why does it "say a lot?" MI gave a cryptic response to this, but Alakazam didn't at all.

When Alakazam returned, I quickly brought it back up, and talked it over a bit with MI, but it was still well after this point when Alakazam answered.

This morning MI gave his own version of an answer that was fairly different from Alakazam's.

So I was asking what you made if that whole exchange.

My Immortal posted...

htaeD posted...

Interesting Corrik, mind restating or pointing me to your MI argument?

also why zam as town?

As far as I know it's because I don't want to lynch Chris today.

Corrik, what do you make of MI's behavior regarding Alakazam last night, when Alakazam was evading me?

turbopuns2 posted...

Speaking of votes, where is yours, crescent?

Unofficially it's on Deadpool if anything, but given he already got up to 8 votes and with his disappearance/lack of claim there isn't much point in tacking on. My vote will be on him if he continues to no show.

I've been taking it easy for a little while as I ponder Chris, because there's a sense to the argument - He certainly has not been impactful this game at all.

I hit a point about 45 minutes ago where my brain started telling me I need to rest or I'll never make it to end of day functional.

turbopuns2 posted...

Exactly lol. I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Lose-Lose. Let probable scum go for free, or keep spurring activity? And at that rate, voting chris wouldn't accomplish anything in the short term either. Hopefully foolmo gives us something.

I don't see what's being lost right now. The day has 7 hours left. We have not lost sight of Deadpool and the game is still moving forward.

ScareChan posted...

Don't get me wrong. Scum Chris can be very vocal

But the information given today him being tentative seems more suspicious

Town Chris does not mind being wrong, scum Chris needs to be right.

What's your take on the argument Red and Corrik made earlier?

turbopuns2 posted...

I hear you Scare. I just...am annoyed, I guess. So many people not really playing, deadpool just hogging the day. I don't want to relent there.

My most recent experience with chris in a game was feast for crows and I feel like scum chris was very loud and action-oriented there. Tried to misdirect town's flow a lot, with much success.

I would say Alakazam has gotten more attention today than Deadpool, so I'm not sure if I'd consider it "hogging".

turbopuns2 posted...

Well this ought to be good

I kind of.. Like the flashiness of it.

htaeD posted...

also thats another thing

scum chris would also have been more vocal in my experience

The question would be, is scum Chris more likely to be lowkey than town Chris?

ScareChan posted...

The case on Chris is that his voice has been silent

Can you name anything significant he had said at all?

When is the last time you can think of Chris being so far back as a voice of town

I will give you am example

Town Chris picks someone in the pool or zam lynch and would have grilled them by now. Just for reactions. But he has been mostly silent

Like you should never be happy with Chris when he hasn't said anything, you should always be weary of him. Him not being a contributes is a bad sign.

Those of you saying you don't see a case on Chris IS the case

This little bit of fire is what I've been looking for. Also makes me feel a fair bit better about you because it's a stronger argument than the one Corrik and Red made. My only two games with him were the first two I ever played, so I don't really have any basis to go by with him.

htaeD posted...

suppose this helps

@foolm0r0n

not that I think we should vote him
just want him to show up at all

I am not feeling this DYL push either

He's been getting pinged, he just hasn't shown up. Could a modpoke help?

ScareChan posted...

RogueNoble posted...

Give me the elevator pitch on Chris

Fuck em?

I kid

I second this request, and I want to hear it from you, not Corrik.

My Immortal posted...

ScareChan posted...

Yeah looking at the list

I don't think mi trusts me yet. Leo is not really engaged with a lynch so much as pushing back at red

Perhaps the implications of a chris lynch could entice fd

It's not so much I don't trust you as I don't see the case on Chris.

It boils down to Red and Corrik saying 'he called Corrik town, so he's scum'.

That's not a case.

I don't trust Scare for two reasons.

1. He has never given a reason for voting Chris other than "it's fun" and is using words like "revolution" and "implications". It's a lot of evasive posturing - Has he actually said he thinks Chris is scum even once? I don't think he has.
2. He only started being a little more proactive right after I called out how passively he's been playing.

htaeD posted...

in fact foolmoron doesnt get talked about enough

is that for a specific reason? (one I can think of)

I pointed DYL off that list specifically because I've played with him multiple times and expect more out of him than what I've seen.

Foolmo hasn't posted since.. Page 3 of topic 1, over 28 hours ago. You're right that he seems to have gone totally overlooked.

turbopuns2 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

In the last game I played, Spooky Mafia - He was both one of the first people to attack my claim, one of the first to vote me, and was far more of a factor overall than he's been this game. His behavior more engaged and fluid, I was just pissed at him for doubting me.

He was town, and my impression of that game is accurate. I just double checked.

Ok. It makes sense then from your seat. I'd rather forget spooky mafia ever happened, but there's a difference here with the player list. Lots of big names so my automatic expectation of a scum scare would be he'd probably talk too much because he would feel pressured to get in good graces with a few people in a game this size. And he's anything but shy. I'm more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here, and honestly like that he hopped on chris.

So what this argument boils down to is scum Scare puts more pressure on himself than town Scare?