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BlueCrystalTear posted...

I wanted to park my vote on somebody I felt was trying to manipulate a mislynch. Which I felt was you and Red.

You didn't vote for red. You voted for me and created a Splinter vote.

You wanted to "park your vote" on what we felt was mylo??? What?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Stopped reading this post there. You went from calling me town to saying I'm scum for no reason. Why? OMGUS?

I thought wallz was scum and it made you and brohan town. If he was actually town, it changes the read. As town your reads evolve, you don't pick one and stick to it no matter what after.

Obellisk posted...

Corriks lack of knowing what's going on but insistence he knows the make up of the game and knows who to lynch is not the warmest of feelings. especially with him following red around the last two lynch targets (Sultan & wallz)

I'd say red followed me more than I followed him tbqh but fair enough.

htaeD posted...

Nope, just the one. Just two words.

It doesn't even make sense as one. Alone wolf? That would be lone wolf then.

Isn't your odd 2 traits?

htaeD posted...

Sure thing

Odd:
Ashley Williams, Alone Wolf
Just the one trait, I cannot be moved or controlled. We've only seen redirection powers on even nights so far. But I dont move on even nights anyway so I feel like we are missing something anyway.

Even:
Tarhos Kovacs, Frightening
I choose a player and if they die that night, I terrify the person who killed him, so they cant kill anyone the next night. (scum gets a message about this once day starts)
Fallen One (nilla)

Targeted Ben night2. So his killer could not have killed anyone night3.
Targeted Wallz night4. Wrong choice there.

Wait what? Is this a new claim?

I'm at work bringing a boiler online. Relax.

Obellisk posted...

Yes and now detail your traits and tell me all of your night actions.

Night 1. Crescent.
Night 3. Ashe.
Night 5. Brohan

Tormenting - Datalogs in game confirmed Imy character is autistic basically.
Loner - I am an introvert and prefer a computer screen to filter people from my life. Once per night I can rub off on someone and cause them to be a loner roleblocking them.
Doctor - I never finished my medical degree so this is nothing.

Obstinate - I would prefer to burn everything to the ground than lose what I worked so hard for.
Genius - I am usually smarter than those around me and therefore can figure things out on my own.

Obellisk posted...

would you mind terribly retyping your claim and adding in any of your secrets? it's so easy to appear on day 6 with an unconfirmed roleblock

Odd:
Claudette Morel Tormenting Loner Doctor

Even:
William Birkin Obstinate Genius

htaeD posted...

No Wallz was the doctor/roleblock-ish power
BCT claims to be a ninja nilla/roleblocker

Oh.

Obellisk posted...

Corrik did you ever full claim? Why does a town roleblocker still exist in a final 7?

Bct is a claimed town roleblocker/town doctor.

I did fully claim everything but I didn't say if anything on evens had abilities to the traits.

htaeD posted...

That would be the infamous insane psychic game.
Poppy was a serial bomber
Scum did have just 3 members that game

But yeah flavorwise I dont know how a second indy exists, and the kills we have seen dont point at a killing indy existing anyway.
An arsonist maybe, but even my role last game had some mechanic that would eventually make players aware and suspicious.

Isn't that an isquen hosted game?

Also, the indies in the setup I am thinking about is they offset evens and odds. So it's really 3+1 but 2 indies complete the 1 fully for all nights. Hy i said 3+1/1. Would be interesting to see them jockeying to win with scum on the right even or odd phase.

Just spitballing. Otherwise it's 4 scum and they didn't have an available vote at the end. Only brohan or death could fill the void. I'd assume it would have to be brohan at that point cuz death would have prevoted what they wanted. It's why I roleblocked brohan last night.

htaeD posted...

I just dont think scum only has 3 members. Though I get why you have to make suggestions like that.

Besides if Ashe is scum, he created heat for himself already by claiming to be killer first and made things even hotter by taking that back.
Regardless of what alignment Ashe has, he's been playing bizarrely. So its more like a nultell to me.

I can see why you have to expand your possible scum/mislynch pool if you are scum.

htaeD posted...

And here I was about to ask what your theories even were now that Wallz flipped town.

There is still no direct evidence that Ashe is town, Corrik.
I agreed that Ashe didnt need to claim that he moved to FD if he was in fact a ninja and also didnt poison him (one of which I still believe is true regardless, and the other is proven now)
But WIFOM is still a thing. And numbers are increasingly going against Ashe's favor.
That said, one thing giving me pause is Brohan voting Ashe on day3.

Btw how do you feel about Sbell since you didnt mention him?

Sbell and igcd can't be scum. Anyone can be indy.

People keep trying to push Ashe but we now know red went to FD night 1. Edumey didn't see Ashe on FD and he did see the poison.

BCT and you continually pushing Ashe all game is concerning.

Like why would Ashe Wifom going to the poison target night 1 and ninja prior to the scan. Like, if anything, Ashe saying he went to the guy who thought he was poisoned was creating massive heat for himself. What is the purpose to do that? Especially if a 3 man scum team.

Scum is probably BCT and Death/Brohan. It's a 3 man scum team. And the last indy could be virtually anyone.

Now that we know red is scum, he could have fed BCT the plan to claim redirected to roleblock wallz. It's not a normal way to handle redirection so I wonder if that was just a mistake on bcts claim. We also know bct roleblocked wallz now and wallz was counterclaimed by bct and he also has a claimed doctor.

We know sbell igcd and Ashe aren't scum at least.

I'm likely alive to use as the easy mislynch.

I suspect that Red and BCT were lingering as scum late. They tried to influence a lynch they thought could get 4 and were furiously trying to get brohan online to vote with them. They knew in either case if Death or brohan was not scum that those votes were likely dead so they probably felt they just needed to get 4 votes to win.

Red and bct vote who I clamored for all day. I join them. Ashe however votes brohan. While igcd sbell and wallz vote Red. Bct bails in a panic trying to separate scum from one another when they realize they are cooked for the day.

Red notably doesn't vote brohan either to tie it up to self preserve.

Us having little investigation and just a roleblocker on each night would fit with having relatively low power in a game where scum was just a 3 man team with 2 indies.

Also we know red is who poisoned FD now so that removed the Ashe lied about his role and was actually who poisoned FD night 1.

htaeD posted...

I am curious why you asked this, IGCD.
Of the living players I only recall Corrik complaining; about BCT being told he was redirected.

Untrue. I said it was not normal and if that's true it would affect how scum used it.

Obellisk posted...

and pushed anyone who showed up to vote the same way.

Would you not try to convince people to vote who you thought was scum if you thought it was mylo

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're right, that's not why I said you're scum. That is my response to why I am not scum. Also you're Sultan example is terrible considering I had been calling Sultan scum from day 1.

I think it's just as bad as your reasoning. Scum clearly imo was not aligned together yesterday because they didn't feel they had the votes to outright win for whatever reason.

4 people had votes yesterday and we thought it was mylo. Insanity.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Considering I also helped lynch scum red, which you didn't, I would say it's unlikely.

That's not what you said for why I had to be scum. You said cuz I voted with red on someone I said I was voting for way before red ever voted.

If anything, red voted him specifically cuz he knew I was going to vote him also.

I felt wallz was the most scummy person in the game. I laid out why over and over and over again prior. He probably felt wallz was the town with his best chance to get others to vote with him on I guess. Idk.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

So fucking what? That literally doesn't mean Jack in this scenario. The facts right now are you were on town with a flipped scum. Brohan was not here nor did he have a vote down so if it is you, Red and Brohan there was nothing you guys could do at EoD anyway.

You voted with red on Sultan. Are you scum?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Oh shit, you said you were voting Wallz 24 hrs prior, well shit that absolutely means there is no way you can be scum, my bad Corrik. I'll have to remember that if you announce your vote 24 hrs prior it means there is a zero percent chance you can be scum.

It means I didn't try to opportunely vote at the end to win for scum. I voted exactly who I said I was.

There had to of not been 4 scum votes available at the end of the day. Either cuz a 3 man scum team and 2 industry or because brohan is scum.

I don't see any other way town didn't lose by vote splitting at that point if it was actually mylo.

If scum has 4 votes there, town lost.

I'm thinking 3 + 1/1. Sultan and another Indy with opposing day win cons.

Red definitely probably tried to vote wallz cuz he knew I was going to and would join him. Not sure regarding bct. Bct fleeing the vote late though makes me think he wasn't on page with Red.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're right, you and Red wouldn't switch to Brohan because then scum dies regardless so we are probably looking at Corrik, BCT and Brohan as the final scum. Either way Corrik is scum and needs to go first.

How am I scum? Where are you even getting to that? I said I was voting wallz 24 hours prior.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I like that you're completely ignoring that I was an absolute wild card yesterday

You couldn't beat 4 votes if brohan is town and all the people you said are scum are scum.

It's literally impossible, igcd. Please just add the math up.

I am thinking it's a 3 man scum team and there is a second indy who has the opposite odds and evens of Sultan for when they win with scum/town.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

That's a bizarrely specific set of circumstances.

It also sounds like you know too much, Corrik.

Um were you like not there yesterday? Brohan had 1 vote. The lynch had 3 votes.

Igcd said Ashe me red and death are scum.

Well, let's see. If brohan is town. That's 4 votes if me and Red and Ashe vote brohan. Brohan wasn't here. The game was over. Red me and Ashe were all here and voting at the end of the day.

It's a nice idea IGCD except if me and Red are scum together and brohan is town, then brohan is dead yesterday and scum won.

FD couldn't be scum but boy would that make more sense how scum didn't win yesterday with a split vote. We had 4 people with votes on them yesterday and scum didn't win.

I roleblocked brohan last night though. He didn't put the kill in.

Scum is either only 3 people big or brohan is scum. Scum coulda won the game with 4 votes on anyone if brohan is afk town.

Igcd and sbell are town though for sure.

If death is town, don't we kinda have to hope brohan is scum? How can we outvote scum then elsewhere? Or vice versa.

wallmasterz posted...

If whoever we lynch is scum rb, Im most likely gonna die tonight. For the record, if Im not around, highly recommend Brohan/Corrik/red for the next three lynches.

What

wallmasterz posted...

Anyone else find it interesting that yesterday Corrik was torn between brohan and sultan, but today he hasnt really seemed interested in a brohan lynch at all?

And thats apparently based on me voting Brohan and Corrik spending like half his posts today talking about how bad it was not to vote for sultan, and trying to keep sultan alive was a pure scum move when we didnt know exactly how sultans role even worked when we voted?

Oh I knew. Cuz I'm not braindead. And scum knew. It was a clear scum flag.

Bct are you actually town? You literally counterclaimed wallz and are asking him who yo lynch

Obellisk posted...

I'm just not feeling great. standing here with red and corrik.... being sold a lynch.

Well who do you want

Obellisk posted...

hiw many people have wallz on their list?

Literally everyone

Obellisk posted...

then again I dunno who to kill.

gut says kill red.

I had reasons for wallz. but what was yhe evidence against him?

Counter claimed. Tried to be deciding vote to save scum 5th vote indy survivor.

htaeD posted...

He just has less going for him and fits in the most hypothetical scumteams.
Its not a perfect metric I know, but its the best I got.
By all rights I am not the best person to make this vote, but I literally cannot leave without voting.

Why not Brohan? Is my counter question.

Why not wallz

Why brohan

IfGodCouldDie posted...

What came first Ashe claiming or Edumy scan on FD?

Ashe claiming. Edumeys scan was night 3 i think

htaeD posted...

Ninja'd and I still messed up the sentence structure

*would want to tell people

Useless

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Can you elaborate? And can others chime in about its accuracy?

Edumey scanned FDs action results. Ashe went to FD with his action night 1. Edumey didn't see Ashe and did see a scum poison. Ashe claimed ninja day 1. Way before the scan. He wouldn't have claimed ninja if he moved.

So unless Ashe is scum ninja who ALSO went to FD then he is town. Or Ashe isn't ninja but claimed ninja for literally absolutely no reason. Makes no sense.

He is just town.

The best thing I have for sbell and igcd is what Ben said and I initially agreed with.

The best thing I have for brohan is his night actions are so lol like what scum would make that up and if wallz is scum he has to be town.

Ashe has a scan clearing him from edumey unless ridiculous steps for no reason at all exist.

My best thing for wallz is what seemed genuine excitement about my role to his claimed role and his t trait thing.

My best thing for red is his refusal to claim which is his usual town shtick.

My best thing for death is his rereading today and being useless as usual.

My best thing for bct is I doubt he has the balls to counter claim as scum or to make up a redirect.

Ashe is someone I'm absolutely not touching at all.

htaeD posted...

For real tho, where is everyone?
I will remind people that I cant be around for deadline.

Are you afraid to put the first vote down or something?

Rolefishing is fun, scumboi.

htaeD posted...

I think if Brohan is scum, he would be too hesitant to vote first since it would make the day all about him VS Wallz, and Wallz has a lot more going for him.

I don't think wallz does at all. The only thing I think really is going for him is that he did seem like genuinely kinda that's cool factored that my role complimented his claimed one.