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Obellisk posted...

what keeps him from being confirmed?
the fact he could have just buried his scummate by claiming to have rolevlocked him?

I'm a little weary lopen was that role, he claimed lopens role. Figured I was lying based off that role. Claimed it against wallz. To look confirmed and try and lynch me later on.

Not likely but why I don't have Kirby completely locked as town. Realistically he pretty much is but the janitor leaves the door ajar.

PeaceFrog posted...

It did occur to me that scum Ulti could use this as an incredible gambit.

But Ulti is really the one who started pushing Knightz and i don't think scum Ulti would give up that op ability so easily.

Looked like mzeros tunnel not ulti. Ulti just chimed in with better luck next time then sauntered off for most of the day from the lynch.

PeaceFrog posted...

Mi never gave that as a reason, iirc it was sbell who said that.

Ulti claims that death is confirmed town, and cannot be gf. So if you believe Ulti, you have to believe death.

It wasn't that early, it was still in the final quarter of the day i think. And red's vote for you is what started the traction.

Why would I have any reason to believe Ulti on that?

Nobody is confirmed town besides Chang. Kirby is super close to confirmed town as well.

Obellisk posted...

why me Corrik? I was going after who I thought was scum

It's splintered

Based on votals alone day 1.

Sbell, peaf, ulti, and death are the ones who should be looked at.

Final Day One Votals
[8] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, (IGCD), Kirby, (IGCD), MI, (IGCD), Ulti, Death, (IGCD)
[3] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, (Ulti), Peaf, Chang
[2] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), (Chang), Blade, (Kirby)
[1] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), (MI), Knightz
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
[0] Red - (FD), (Peaf), (Kirby)
[0] Kirby - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Sbell), (Red)
[0] FD - (Ulti), (Red), (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti), (Ulti)
[0] Taco/Mzero - (Knightz), (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen), (Death)
[0] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco/Mzero), (Blade), (Taco/Mzero), (Red), (Kirby)
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz), (MI)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti)
[0] Corrik - Ulti)
[0] IGCD - (Ulti)
[0] Peaf - (Ulti)
[0] No Lynch - (Ulti)

You have 15 minutes to PM me any errors.

Death or Ulti is scum. MIs vote switch is purely self preserving.

What does everyone have on Death and ulti?

Votals
[6] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, (IGCD), Kirby, IGCD
[4] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, Ulti, Peaf, Chang
[2] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), (Chang), Blade, (Kirby)
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
[0] Red - (FD), (Peaf), (Kirby)
[0] Kirby - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Sbell), (Red)
[0] FD - (Ulti), (Red), (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti), (Ulti)
[0] Taco/Mzero - (Knightz), (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen), (Death)
[0] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco/Mzero), (Blade), (Taco/Mzero), (Red), (Kirby)
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz), (MI)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti)
[0] Corrik - Ulti)
[0] IGCD (Ulti)
[0] Peaf

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends at 6 PM EST, less than one hour from now.

scum could have put MI in the lead here with just wallz and itz voting. Itz probably was checked out at this point.

alot of questionable people on MI here with ulti Red and peaf.

If this loses luster I'd expect scum to switch to the scum lynch

Kirby then changes from wallz to itz.

Votals
[5] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, IGCD
[5] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade, Kirby
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz
[2] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, Ulti
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
[0] Red - (FD), (Peaf), (Kirby)
[0] Kirby - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Sbell), (Red)
[0] FD - (Ulti), (Red), (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti), (Ulti)
[0] Taco/Mzero - (Knightz), (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen), (Death)
[0] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco/Mzero), (Blade), (Taco/Mzero), (Red), (Kirby)
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz), (MI)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti)
[0] Corrik - Ulti)
[0] IGCD (Ulti)
[0] Peaf
With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends at 6 PM EST, a little over one hour from now.

Votals as of Topic 4, post 424
[4] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD
[4] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz
[2] Red - (FD), Peaf, Kirby
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
[1] Kirby - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Sbell), Red
[0] FD - (Ulti), (Red), (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti)
[0] Taco - (Knightz), (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen)
[0] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco/Mzero), (Blade), (Taco/Mzero), (Red), (Kirby)
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz), (MI)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti)
[0] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends May 1st at 6 PM EST

What's the chances that scum mercilessly bussed early this game and just on two specific scum players wallz and knightz.

Just looking quickly.

Ulti
Mzero
Chang
Mercilessly all over knightz. (Mzero leading the charge in what looks like a tunnel)

FD
Ben
Blade
Mercilessly all over Wallz

That's a lot of people still alive all over 2 specific scum.

htaeD posted...

Whats the point of that post, Corrik?

My point is scum talks that way on mislynches. Then afterwards can go well we all thought that after.

Kirby321 posted...

I do like that we're discussing alternative lynches.

However, I don't think it's a good idea to let Corrik go free today. His actions don't make sense as any alignment, and the "town Corrik does this all the time" logic might just be something a scum Corrik would bank on in order to skate by.

I don't think it's wise to lynch anyone but Corrik today. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page there. We need to resolve whether his tomfoolery was genuine or faked to appear towny.

If I didn't know you are town, I'd think you are scum.

"Need to make sure we are all on the same page"

No one says this. You vote for who you think is scum and so does everyone else and whoever has the most votes is removed.

It looks like you want to be among the crowd regarding things.

Meow1000 posted...

If Ulti is claiming what I think he's claiming good god

I have no idea what he is claiming

UltimaterializerX posted...

Look at this role fishing lmao

Sorry I annihilated your team day 1 man. Nothing you could do given how the RNG decided things.

What

UltimaterializerX posted...

Night 1 I confirmed ctes, night 2 I confirmed Death.

If town keeps me alive, we win. Simple as.

Confirmed... how?

ctesjbuvf posted...

I feel like I've seen Corrik drag lies out like this as town before, it's definitely possible he is town.

Why would scum Corrik not explain himself earlier?

I guess just when I said town agreed too much Peaf got thrown in.

I wasn't gonna come out ever. Was planning to take it further actually. Decided there was no angle I could benefit town with it at that point though. So I decided to just say fuck it. I couldn't wait out Blade admitting I was right about him lying and it was nulltell so didn't matter in the end. Just had to wait until it didn't look like I became someone's little girl doggie and gave in to them. = /

ctesjbuvf posted...

That's what makes most sense to me too.

Better end the day real quick then.

PunishedBen posted...

Scum probably thinks Blade is the roleblocker who targets Wallz on night 1. Maybe that's why corrik got ahead of it, to try and prevent blade from confirming himself and damning Wallz. That's why he sold it as "I role block but you're not informed that you're blocked" ..... after Blade is lynched though, yeah that would be pretty bad. But they were in a bad place already

If you lynch Blade, it kills me and wallz then in that scenario.

Bad logic there.

Meow1000 posted...

The problem is Corrik is hardcore Corrking.

Though Peaf really isn't a "bad" vote there kind of wasn't any argument really given with it.

It's simply based upon the scum-scum day 1 mostly. I haven't read a large swath around it, but I don't believe all 3 lynches were scum and scum wasn't trying to stop something somewhere.

Lots of set lynch, end today, yadda yadda comments.

If I'm scum and I know wallz was blocked via roleblock, I know wallz is already dying day 2 unless it was an untargetable that can roleblock on interaction instead of "failed". Etc. There was no possible way to 1 for 1 there. Even without the roleblock claim by Kirby, Blade simply lives by saying nuh uh and everyone else simply going "corrik you know the kill coulda been stopped multiple other ways right it doesn't mean you did it".

TotallyNotMI posted...

If Blade was town power who knew he wasn't roleblocked, how would you expect him to respond and what would be different than how he actually responded to you, Corrik?

I believe he woulda said he went nowhere so if he was blocked it was wasted or just said I am not dealing with this cuz corrik is bullshitting like usual yadda yadda.

If he knows I am lying via role, why even deny it and play into it? He knows I am not 1 for 1ing with him. It's dumb by all angles as scum.

Scum knows I am town and would definitely be more content to let town itself lead the mislynch. But, they have to be wary on it because of course they can't look tmi. Look at the followers who put their toe in the water and weed out the towns involved.

I also considered the janitor day 1 was the actual night kill potentially as well.

Saw the no kill and was like fuck it let's shake some shit up here and create some shit to get reads on.

Still highly doubt Blade is truthful in his response fully. But, hey. It's nulltell for alignment tbqh.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Corrik?

Figured the kill was saved but I intended to say I blocked it. Like a 1% chance it was roleblocked by a role of some kind and it was Blade and if I could hit that jackpot could end a flustered Blade with the real reasoning staying hidden and drawing a shot to myself.

If Blade was town, I figured scum would see what I said and react to the situation knowing we are both town and create reads across the board and potentially draw a shot to me as a power role. As well as town reads to the situation.

If Blade was scum and didn't send the kill in, it still creates reads across the board and awkward reads by scum knowing I was lying and Blade potentially being cftwr and how they would operate regarding it.

The Kirby thing happening was... unexpected and why I backed off and supported him fully. Wasn't expecting an actual roleblock stoppage of a kill there.

Basically trying to bluff into reactions and not thinking a roleblock block was actually coming.

"Oops"

Meow1000 posted...

That reminds me. Someone directly suggested scum didn't kill Kirby because they were afraid of a watcher early in the day.

I actually didn't remember who it was but of course, it's corrik.

Good point.

ctesjbuvf posted...

That I can agree with!

Lopen probably.

You'd be really dumb to stall this day out on a single lynch.

##vote: Peaf

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik spent a day and a half calling me scum and/or a liar then revealed his entire foundation on me was a lie.

Somehow the vanilla claim actually does give me slight paranoia, but he has been actively doing his best to derail the game. The fact that he also maintained this lie through the revelation that Wall was blocked sending the kill and continued trying to kill me over Wall effectively proves that Corrik is either scum or isn't playing to win.

Still factually incorrect.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Enchantress posted...

Emphasis mine.

The Roleblock should be done and dusted before your redirect effect happens

This is why roleblocks act simultaneous and a roleblocker can't be roleblocked. Mechanics sidebar but I still stand by this in my games at least. Luckily I don't host really anymore.

How can a roleblocker be roleblocked if their roleblock happened at the same time as yours.

Meow1000 posted...

Also I find it amusing that two of the remaining people in my POE seem to be mutually planning to try to set me up as scum on a Corrik scumflip.

Lol

Meow1000 posted...

I will say Corrik changing his claim to vanilla actually does have me slightly paranoid he's town who got so locked up in his ego that he hasn't played to win since the start of day 2.

But he also... Kind of never finished any of the spew he started last night and said he would finish.

Was at wrestling. Probably won't get to much til tonight or early tomorrow

Meow1000 posted...

Ben's pretty much called Corrik out on this that I remember

What

There is a lot of people who don't know the difference between people they suspect and POE.

PeaceFrog posted...

To state the most obvious within our poe, it's entirely possible that igcd gets a big scum power for being the final on two town lynches or something like that.

Chang and Kirby are the only players 100% confirmed imo. And even with Kirby i was still dreaming up crazy theories where he and wallz were scum together.

I never understood why yinz are helping him hammer people. All the people posting after the stop suggests not scum that didn't know scum put the kill in and it was coming. But, third party win condition could be in play.

htaeD posted...

Okay so now that we know you were lying, I suppose the point remains that Blade claimed to have a power that would always know when he was roleblocked due to his type of power.
But you say that could only be a few roles when I feel like that could be over half the known powers in Mafia

Depends on how lea does role interaction pms. Mzero said she send successfuls. That opens it up endlessly.

htaeD posted...

How is Blade lying again?

He wouldn't have soft claimed town power there if he actually was town power. I have said this many times.

MZero posted...

Also since it looks like he's not going to claim and will probably get lynched anyway, I taunted Corrik

My action was successful, which means he didn't send in the night kill and didn't RB last night (which he admitted)

So basically nothing useful!

Because my power is my Voice.

Quendra, Town Vanilla.

<3

It's impossible I wasn't scanned every way from Sunday and at least a few people know I am town.

Doesn't change Blade is indeed lying about his soft power claim, but hey. What can I say! I am just a ditz with a voice.

Chang Town due to taboo if not.

jesus there is 15 people still in this game? So 19 to start. So 5 scum?

Could be 6 by numbers but doubtful. Extra kill has to be scum so lock all those town up above. Makes 5 scum.

5/19 day 1
5/17 day 2
5/15 day 3
5/13 day 4
5/11 day 5 mylo.

Yeah 5 scum.

So 3 scummers left.

Town
Ctes
Chang
Kirby
Igcd
Red
Corrik
MI

Not cleared yet in my read
FD
Ulti
Mzero
Blade
Peaf
Ben
Sbell
Death

As of right now, peaf on blast.

I'll figure it out completely by the end of this day so yinz can't lose. That's just round 1.

Refuse to believe scum-scum-scum. So MI town.

Ctes is town unless master scum. So town.

Unless town claims the lopen thing, Kirby, IGCD, and Red are town.

Kirby is town anyways.

Why did Peaf vote MI? Look hard at this.

Wallz vote was trapped on knightz fwiw.

wallmasterz posted...

I think this counts for something. There must be a means of Lopen coming back to the game.

This could just be the hosts way of indicating Lopen doesnt count among the living while vanished.

Literally ofc it was him.

Anyways I'll find scum for you all so when yinz mislynch me you can just lynch everyone I said and I'll still be town mvp. Lmfao.

Kirby321 posted...

GOOD THING I ASKED THE HOST BEFORE THE GAME STARTED HAHA

Corrik is full of shit. End him.

According to the host, if I jailkeep a scum roleblocker who targets me, we both get roleblocked.

Starting to be concerned you literally cannot read.

Kirby321 posted...

Hey, IGCD, I thought you said you needed three lynches. You weren't on the lynch at EoD D1. What's up with this post?

That's 1 lynch closer, Kirby.

ctesjbuvf posted...

What started the votes on MI?

This is a doozy post if scum by ctes btw. Comes hard-core like a town post. Fwiw.

Who was it that tried to convince us Lopen wasn't a janitor and killed day 1 btw when we reacted and would return later.