Lurker > Ashethan

If the Saints win by 11 or less, Buffy_Summers advances
If the Saints win by 12 or more, Stripperiffic advances

If the Panthers win by 6 or fewer points, Stripperiffic advances
If the Panthers win by 7 points, Buffy_Summers advances
If the Panthers win by 8 or more points, and the score is 49 or less, Buffy _Summers advances
If the Panthers win by 8 or more points, and the score is 50 or more, Stripperiffic advances
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Buffy_Summers
1. New Orleans by 10
2. No
3. New Orleans +7.5
4. 44
5. 520

vs

Stripperiffic
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
New Orleans Saints by 13
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
No
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Saints +6.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
55
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
601
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Like I said, I'm more than happy to send Andel on if people think that's what i should do. But only because I'm involved in the pick, and I run the league -- if this were any other game (should it happen in the next game, haven't looked at the picks yet) then I'd advance them by the rules listed in the official tiebreaker rules.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

I mean if people think I should send Andel on based on the quick explanation, I'm more than happy to oblige. But for future reference (for this season at least--rules can be under consideration for next season) points are above locks.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Ashethan posted...

theawesomestevr posted...
Does the "and by how much" end up factoring into the picks? I didn't see it listed in the quick explanation for tiebreakers, but it is in the full rules, so I just wanted to check on that.

Yes, it's fully explained in the official tiebreaker rules:

-Tiebreaker 1: By how much. Whoever is closer (over or under) advances. (EX: User A picks Jets by 3, User B picks Jets by 7. If Jets win by 4 or less, User A wins. If the Jets win by 6 or more, User B wins. If the Jets win by 5, then it moves to the next tiebreaker)

This tiebreaker supersedes a lock (because being able to pick the amount is a bigger deal than confidence)

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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

No.

Scenario 3: Both users pick the wrong team:

-Tiebreaker 1: The spread. Whoever picks the lowest spread that STILL WINS, advances. Example: If User A picks Jets +3.5, and User B picks Jets +7.5; if the Jets lose by 3 or less, User A advances. If the Jets lose by 4, 5, 6, or 7 then User B advances. If the Jets lose by 8 or more, it moves on to the next tiebreaker.
--Tiebreaker 2: If one player locks their team, and the other does not, then the player who did NOT lock their team advances. If both or neither player locked, then it will move on to the next tiebreaker

A Lock breaks the point tiebreaker. In favor if it's the right team, and against if it's the wrong team (Much like in the regular season where you lose 10 points for a wrong lock)
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

-If the Jags win by 10 points or less, I advance
-If the Jags win by 11 points or more, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 2 or less, andel advances
-If the Bills win by 3 or more, I advance (3 or 4 points by first tiebreaker, 5 or more points by Lock)
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Not unless they really decided they wanted to go. There's so many better things to do on Sunday.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Looks like nobody has predicted the correct team so far! Will the trend continue tomorrow?

Also Happy Birthday to KCF!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

terpaholic advances!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Yeah, sorry that's reversed.

Should be:

If the Rams win by 7 or fewer points terpaholic advances
If the Rams win by 8 or more points, Camden advances

If the Falcons win by 3 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 4 points, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 51 or less, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 52 or more, Camden advances
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

If the Rams win by 7 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Rams win by 8 or more points, terpaholic advances

If the Falcons win by 3 or fewer points, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 4 points, terpaholic advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 51 or less, Camden advances
If the Falcons win by 5 or more points, and the total score is 52 or more, terpaholic advances
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Camden
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Rams by 8

2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Of course

3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Rams +3.5

4. How many points will be scored in the game
54 points

5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
515 yards

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terpaholic
1. Which team will win -- and by how much? Rams by 7
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes.
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team.
Rams +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game?
49
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
550.
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theawesomestevr advances!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

If the Chiefs win by 5 or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Chiefs win by 7 or more, theawesomestevr advances
If the Chiefs win by exactly 6, and the score is 42 points or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Chiefs win by exactly 6, and the score is 43 points or more, theawesomestevr advances

If the Titans win and the score is 42 points or less, Silvstedt advances
If the Titans win, and the score is 43 points or more, theawesomestevr advances
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

theawesomestevr
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Kansas City Chiefs by 8 may change this in a sec.
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Chiefs +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
47 points
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
484

vs

Silvstedt
What you are picking:
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
Chiefs by 4
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
Yes
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
Chiefs +4.5
4. How many points will be scored in the game
38
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?
521
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

My pick is in.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

theawesomestevr posted...

Does the "and by how much" end up factoring into the picks? I didn't see it listed in the quick explanation for tiebreakers, but it is in the full rules, so I just wanted to check on that.

Yes, it's fully explained in the official tiebreaker rules:

-Tiebreaker 1: By how much. Whoever is closer (over or under) advances. (EX: User A picks Jets by 3, User B picks Jets by 7. If Jets win by 4 or less, User A wins. If the Jets win by 6 or more, User B wins. If the Jets win by 5, then it moves to the next tiebreaker)

This tiebreaker supersedes a lock (because being able to pick the amount is a bigger deal than confidence)

I forgot to include it in the quick explanation. (was in a hurry to get the topic up before it got too late)
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

<wishful thinking mode>
Mario Kart 9
Pokemon Switch
Mario Golf Switch
Hyrule Warriors 2
</wishful thinking mode>
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

WweJth posted...

Clarification: How will the following week work? Will the 4 bye players get to choose the game they wish to have?

Games are chosen based on advantage by record.

For example, this week:

Silvstedt vs theawesomestevr:
Chiefs/Titans: 4
Bills/Jaguars: -3
Rams/Falcons: 1
Saints/Panthers: -1

terpaholic vs Camden:
Chiefs/Titans: -1
Bills/Jaguars: -1
Rams/Falcons: 0
Saints/Panthers: -3

Me vs Andel:
Chiefs/Titans: 1
Bills/Jaguars: 1
Rams/Falcons: -3
Saints/Panthers: 1

Stripperiffic vs Buffy_Summers:
Chiefs/Titans: -1
Bills/Jaguars: -3
Rams/Falcons: 1
Saints/Panthers: 0

From there, the top seed gets advantage first. Meaning Silvstedt vs theawesomestevr gets Chiefs/Titans.

The only Bills/Jaguars advantage goes to Andel, so me and Andel get that one.

Terpaholic vs Camden only has neutral in Rams/Falcons so they get that one over Saints/Panthers, leaving Stripperiffic and Buffy_Summers with Saints/Panthers (which is also neutral)
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Appreciated, KCF

5tarscream posted...

FML

Your lock all got you into position. But you didn't submit a tiebreaker score. Always submit a tiebreaker score.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Welcome to the playoffs!
1. See tiebreaker scenarios for tiebreakers.
2. If you have any questions, please ask. I'll be happy to clarify
3. All picks must be in before the start of the game.
4. PIcks should be sent to me via PM (unless I'm picking, in which case we'll both send to an alternate)

Spreadsheets:
Records:
goo.gl/rmdcb9

Week by Week:
goo.gl/MyDTQ1

Locks:
goo.gl/FLFQrk

Standings:
(1)WweJth 177-79 [330]
(2)Crescent-Moon 175-81 [400]
(3)davidponte 173-83 [270]
(4)foxhead84 172-84 [270]
(5)theawesomestevr 169-87 [320]
Consensus 168-88
(6)Camden 167-89 [400]
(7)Andel 166-90 [260]
(8)Buffy_Summers 166-90 [230]
(9)Stripperiffic 165-91 [190]
(10)Ashethan 163-93 [130]
(11)terpaholic 162-94 [350]
(12)Silvstedt 162-94 [210]*
(13)5tarscream 162-94 [210]
(14)BlueCrystalTear 161-95 [330]
(15)MitsuruKirijo 161-95 [180]
(16)cyan1001 160-96 [250]
(17)ProfessorLupin 158-98 [230]
(18)KCF0107 156-100 [260]
(19)crazyisgood 154-102 [260]
(20)Dancedreamer 153-103 [60]
(21)Runemistress 152-104 [150]
(22)Wicklebee 150-106 [240]

*Tiebreaker 22 off vs 628 off

Note: I did a retally of everyone's results. So some of your numbers may be off from last week's. If you feel I have made an error, please tell me, and I'll work to correct it.

Tiebreaker rules:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS654SUsTu0k_MEItWT5TNh53FhUUT9VOdYqd3QwqDjEdjfhi2YpdHXi_LuA7o2fvqVroFPSceaOPt3/pub

What you are picking:
1. Which team will win -- and by how much?
2. Do you LOCK your pick in?
3. Pick a Spread that will make your team win in the event you both pick the wrong team (Ex: Jets +3.5)
4. How many points will be scored in the game
5. How many passing yards will be thrown in the game?

Quick explanation:

-If both users pick different teams, the one who picks the right team advances.
-If both users pick the same team and are right -- whoever LOCKED will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by points scored in the game
-If there's still a tie after total points scored, it'll be determined by how many passing yards are thrown
-If there's still a tie after that, the higher seed automatically advances

-If both users pick the same team, and are wrong -- whoever did NOT lock will advance. If both or neither locked, then the tiebreaker will be decided by whoever picked the lowest spread that still wins. (Ex: If the Jets lose by 3, and you pick Jets +3.5, and your opponent picks Jets +4.5 you advance. If you pick Jets +2.5 then your opponent advances)
-If the tie isn't broken after that, tiebreakers advance normally.

Schedule:

Kansas City Chiefs @ Tennessee Titans
5- theawesomestevr
vs
12- Silvstedt

Atlanta Falcons @ Los Angeles Rams
6-Camden
vs
11- terpaholic

Buffalo Bills @ Jacksonville Jaguars
7- andel
vs
10- Ashethan

Carolina Panthers @ New Orleans Saints
8- Buffy_Summers
vs
9- Stripperiffic

I also need a volunteer to take mine and Andel's picks.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Double checking everyone's records to make sure there's no mistakes, and then you can expect the topic up this afternoon.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Physical:
Mario Odyssey
Fire Emblem Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Splatoon 2
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Congrats to ProfessorLupin and Camden for getting the End Of Year Bonus! Both locked 30 teams correctly! Great job! Camden missed only the Buccaneers, and ProfessorLupin missed only the Texans. (The Browns went 0-16 so nobody missed them)

Congrats to davidponte and Andel for having the best record last week at 11-5! Great job!

Playoff Schedule looks to be:

BYE:
WweJth
Crescent-Moon
davidponte
foxhead84

Atlanta Falcons @ Los Angeles Rams
5- theawesomestevr
vs
12 - BlueCrystalTear

Tennessee Titans @ Kansas City Chiefs
6-Camden
vs
11- terpahaolic

Buffalo Bills @ Jacksonville Jaguars
7-Buffy_Summers
vs
10-Ashethan

Carolina Panthers @ New Orleans Saints
8- Andel
vs
9- Stripperiffic
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Playoff Topic probably won't be up until Tuesday, as I'll be heading out this afternoon after the second set of games are over.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Tiebreakers:

davidponte-666
Andel-645
theawesomestevr-642
Ashethan-637
cyan1001-623
terpaholic-620
ProfessorLupin-617
crazyisgood-610
Stripperiffic-608
Silvstedt-606
MitsuruKirijo-605
Camden-599
Buffy_Summers-593
BlueCrystalTear-592
Crescent-Moon-591
Dancedreamer-587
WweJth-585
5tarscream-0
foxhead84-0
KCF0107-0
Runemistress-0
Wicklebee-0
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Green Bay Packers @ Detroit Lions
Rodgerless Packers vs the Lions at home? Yeah, I know where I'm going with this one.

Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings LOCK
Vikings should be able to handle the bears, and get their first round bye.

Houston Texans @ Indianapolis Colts
Texans have looked awful lately. Colts haven't been much better, but they should be able to pull this one off.

Cleveland Browns @ Pittsburgh Steelers LOCK
0-16!

New York Jets @ New England Patriots LOCK
The Patriots aren't about to let up when the Top seed is at stake.

Washington Redskins @ New York Giants
Giants finish the miserable season with another loss.

Dallas Cowboys @ Philadelphia Eagles
Neither team has anything to really play for, but I think the Eagles will be hungry for another win.

Jacksonville Jaguars @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville's defense should rebound after their awful showing in San Francisco. Potentially knocking the Titans out of the playoffs.

Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Bills will probably JUST miss the playoffs. But they're a team with a bright future. Miami is too... once they get a few things settled.

Cincinnati Bengals @ Baltimore Ravens
Ravens seek a playoff spot, and face off against the Bengals in Marvin Lewis's last game.

Oakland Raiders @ Los Angeles Chargers
Raiders look lost. Carr isn't what he used to be. And the Chargers still look like they're fighting.

Arizona Cardinals @ Seattle Seahawks
The Seahawks should be able to handle Blaine Gabbert in their home stadium.

San Francisco 49ers @ Los Angeles Rams
Rams are resting their starters. Jimmy G is going to be playing hard to prove he's worth it.

Carolina Panthers @ Atlanta Falcons
Falcons want that playoff spot so bad. Their last matchup went the Panthers way, but that was in Carolina.

Kansas City Chiefs @ Denver Broncos
Broncos look done for the season.

New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Buccaneers still have some way to go. The Saints... have arrived at the playoffs.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

theawesomestevr posted...

Not a big deal, but my TB point total only went up 110 from last week instead of 120 after locking all. As always, I might have missed something, or maybe I had more tb points listed last week than I was supposed to, but figured I'd point it out since I happened to notice it.

Fixed in the spreadsheet.
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Kenri posted...

perhaps a cherry-picked image of 10 young blonde white female republicans and 10 senior citizen democrats will change your mind

The funny thing is they later like to complain about how liberal hollywood is. How quickly they forget it when they post those misogynist pictures. (As if a woman's only value is her appearance. Which is exactly what most of them believe)
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

I think the big thing about Corrik's post is that he calls "Coke" "pop". That's just inexcusable.
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FFI: Red Mage
FFII: No real favorite
FFIII: Didn't play enough
FFIV: Rydia
FFV: Faris
FFVI: Celes Chere
FFVII: Cloud Strife
FFVIII: Squall Leonhart
FFIX: Dagger
FFX: Yuna
FFXI: Did Not Play
FFXII: Balthier
FFXIII: Vanille
FFXIV: Did Not Play
FFXV: Haven't played enough

Least Favorite

FFI: Thief
FFII: No real least favorite
FFIII: Didn't play enough
FFIV: Palom
FFV: Butz
FFVI: Gau
FFVII: Yuffie Kisaragi
FFVIII: Irvine Kinneas
FFIX: Quina
FFX: Kimahri
FFXI: Did Not Play
FFXII: Vaan
FFXIII: Snow
FFXIV: Did Not Play
FFXV: Haven't played enough of
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DeepsPraw posted...

why does an 18 y/o need to be adopted?

There's a lot of reasons. It can be to formalize the relationship between step-parent and step-kid. Allows the step-child some way in taking care of an adult with diminished capacity to make decisions of their own. Allows the parent to leave assets to the adopted kid more easily.
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Rules:
goo.gl/cGqtWMSpreadsheets:

Congrats to KCF0107, Cyan1001, theawesomestevr, and davidponte for having the best week at 14-2! Good job!

Records:
goo.gl/rmdcb9

Week by Week:
goo.gl/MyDTQ1

Locks:
goo.gl/FLFQrk

Stats:
Easiest Team to Predict: Cleveland Browns (91.21%)
Hardest Team to Predict: Kansas City Chiefs (44.71%)
Easiest Division to Predict: AFC North (72.34%)
Hardest Division to predict: AFC West (55.52%)
Easier Conference to predict: NFC (63.98%)
Harder conference to predict: AFC (63.44%
Home % 66.06%
Away%: 60.95%

Standings:
(1)WweJth 167-73 [320]
(2)Crescent-Moon 165-75 [370]
(3)foxhead84 162-78 [240]
(4)davidponte 162-78 [210]
(5)theawesomestevr 160-80 [320]
(6)Camden 159-81 [290]
Consensus 158-82
(7)Buffy_Summers 157-83 [190]
(8)terpaholic 155-85 [340]
(9)Andel 155-85 [250]
(10)Stripperiffic 155-85 [160]
(11)Ashethan 153-87 [100]
(12)BlueCrystalTear 152-88 [300]
(13)Silvstedt 152-88 [200]
(14)5tarscream 152-88 [180]
(15)cyan1001 151-89 [240]
(16)MitsuruKirijo 151-89 [150]
(17)Wicklebee 149-91 [270]
(18)ProfessorLupin 148-92 [120]
(19)crazyisgood 147-93 [250]
(20)KCF0107 147-93 [220]
(21)Dancedreamer 143-97 [50]
(22)Runemistress 142-98 [140]

Week 17 Schedule:
Green Bay Packers @ Detroit Lions
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings
Houston Texans @ Indianapolis Colts
Cleveland Browns @ Pittsburgh Steelers
New York Jets @ New England Patriots
Washington Redskins @ New York Giants
Dallas Cowboys @ Philadelphia Eagles
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Tennessee Titans
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cincinnati Bengals @ Baltimore Ravens
Oakland Raiders @ Los Angeles Chargers
Arizona Cardinals @ Seattle Seahawks
San Francisco 49ers @ Los Angeles Rams
Carolina Panthers @ Atlanta Falcons
Kansas City Chiefs @ Denver Broncos
New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Game of the week:
Carolina Panthers @ Atlanta Falcons

FINAL TIEBREAKER:
In the event of a tie beyond the tiebreakers, you should answer this question either through PM to me OR in this topic. The choice is up to you. I'll post all tiebreakers once the first games start on Sunday.
How many points will be scored this week

And in the interest of fairness, my tiebreaker number is: 637
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Congrats, and good luck!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Happy Wintermas!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

What are her interests?

What's your budget?
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Los Angeles Chargers @ New York Jets
Unfortunately the Chargers could still make it in
And the Jets had more wins than anyone expected them to win

Jacksonville Jaguars @ San Francisco 49ers LOCK
And the Jaguars, who played bad out west
Would still stand over the AFC South, and get to put their defense to the test

Seattle Seahawks @ Dallas Cowboys
But the Seahawks were still inching closer to being out
A loss to the cowboys, would surely make them all pout

New York Giants @ Arizona Cardinals
And the Giants sucked, and the Cardinals were relying on Blaine
Oh how the Browns fans knew their pain!

Pittsburgh Steelers @ Houston Texans LOCK
Of course the Steelers would roll on winning game after game
And the Texans could look forward to next year with Deshaun Watson, all the same

They rode with their load, hoping to get rid of the cheer!
For all the teams that wouldn't make the playoffs this year!
"Boo to the Who!" they said with the end of the year upcoming
"They're finding out now that no playoffs are coming!"
"They're just waking up! I know just what they'll do!"
"Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
Then the who's down in whoville will be crying boohoo!"
"That's a noise," grinned the Browns fans, "That I simply must hear."
So they paused, and put their hands to their hear
And they did hear a sound over the rising snow
It started in low, then it started to grow
But the sound wasn't sad! Why this sound sounded merry!
It couldn't be so! But it was Merry! Very!
They stared down at whoville, watching with their eyes!
Then they shook! What they saw was a shocking surprise!
Every who down in whoville, the tall and the small
Was singing! Without any playoffs at all!
He hadn't stopped the playoffs from coming! They came!
Somehow or another, they came just the same!
And the Browns with thier feet ice ocld in the snow
Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so?"
"The Raiders won't make it, and neither will the bills!
"Without the playoffs, how are the fans getting their thrills?"
And they puzzled three hours, till their puzzlers were sore
Then the Browns fans thought of something they hadn't before
"Maybe football<' they thought "Isn't just about the score."
"Maybe Football...perhaps...means a little bit more!"
And then what happened then? Well in Whoville they say
That the Browns fans samll hearts grew three szes that day!
And the minute their heart didn't feel quite so tight
They whizzed through the streets, and shouted all night

Oakland Raiders @ Philadelphia Eagles
On Christmast day, even as the Eagles lost
Their fans came out to support them, no matter the cost
And the Browns fans realized something with glee!
They might not win any games this year, but next year they might win three!
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Every who down in whoville liked football a lot
But the Browns fans, who lived north of whoville, did not
The Browns fans hated Football! The whole Football season!
Now, please don't ask why. Everyone knows the reason
It could be they would soon be 0 and 16
A team so bad, had never been seen
But I think the most likely reason of all
Was how their team played every fall
Whatever the reason, their record or play
They were all eagerly awaiting Christmas day
They stood there on Christmas eve, hating the Who's
Hoping they'd beat the Bears, but figuring they'd lose
Staring down from their cave with a frown on their face
KNowing they were all watching teams still in the playoff race.

Indianapolis Colts @ Baltimore Ravens
"Even the Colts have won three games this year," they said all sporty
"We haven't even won that many in the last forty!"

Then they growled, with their fingers strumming
"I must find some way to stop the playoffs from coming."

For tomorrow, he knew, all the who's with their weird names
would be watching their teams playing their games

Minnesota Vikings @ Green Bay Packers
Then the who, young and old, would sit down to a feast.
And the Browns fans snarled. "The Packers won't make it this year, at least."

And the more the Browns fans thought of Football in the first of the year
The more they thought "I've got to stop the playoffs, that'll bring me some cheer."
Then they got an idea! An idea so foul!
"I know just what to do!" they said with a growl
"We'll stop some teams from making the post-season.
That'll get them upset, even if the Browns aren't the reason."

Los Angeles Rams @ Tennessee Titans
The Rams would make it, but the Titans might not
"With a loss, they can't win the division" the browns fans thought.

Buffalo Bills @ New England Patriots
And Oh Belichick, they thought with glee.
He'd knock the bills back with his cheating, tee-hee!

Cleveland Browns @ Chicago Bears SUPER LOCK
Of course the Browns would probably lose to the bears
And then 0-16 would soon be theirs.

Atlanta Falcons @ New Orleans Saints
But oh, the Falcons would surely be upset with passion
After losing that last super bowl in such a fashion
They'd soon be crying all night and all day!
Upset their team would no longer get to play!

Detroit Lions @ Cincinnati Bengals
The lions could still make it, and they thought that was fine
"If they can do it after 0-16, maybe the playoffs could eventually be mine!"

Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Carolina Panthers
And the Panthers would make it in with a win
But the Buccaneers were in as bad a state as they've ever been

Miami Dolphins @ Kansas City Chiefs
The Chiefs were up, and then they were down
The Browns fans with their team was that good, they thought with a frown

Denver Broncos @ Washington Redskins
The Broncos and Redskins were already out
"More to commiserate with," the Browns fans did shout
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Corrik posted...

What if I told you that your ancestors likely had similar or worse age difference in your family's past?

What if I told you that your ancestors likely had slaves at some point?

My mom was way too young when she and my dad had sex, and then got married. It wasn't even that long ago. Doesn't make my dad any less of a creep that people used to marry children. Society used to be pretty fucked up. They didn't let women vote, they considered black people 3/5ths human, and they were generally okay with the slaughter of Native Americans for their land.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

More than anything, I generally restrict how much R-rated movies/M-Rated games my kids play, rather than saying no altogether. I mean with my youngest kids -- they definitely aren't ready for an R rated movie. I think PG-13 is too much for them at this point. But with my oldest.. I'll take her to see an R rated movie once in a while as a treat. Like we went to see Logan. She really liked it. (Some of her friends were really jealous) And around Halloween we'll do a horror movie marathon.

I don't think I'd let my kids play GTAV until they're about 15. Something like Fallout though I'd say is okay for 12.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

I'd probably play it first, and then determine for myself rather than going by what the ratings say.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Rules:
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Congrats to Crescent-Moon, foxhead84, Andel, 5tarscream, Professor_Lupin for having the best week this week at 14-2! Great job!

Records:
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Week by Week:
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Locks:
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Stats:
Easiest Team to Predict: Cleveland Browns (91.30%)
Hardest Team to Predict: Kansas City Chiefs (41.80%)
Easiest Division to Predict: AFC North (72.75%)
Hardest Division to predict: AFC West (53.99%)
Easier Conference to predict: NFC (63.13%)
Harder conference to predict: AFC (62.39%
Home % 64.81%
Away%: 60.37%

1)WweJth 154-70 [300]
2)Crescent-Moon 152-72 [260]
3)foxhead84 149-75 [210]
4)davidponte 148-76 [180]
5)Camden 147-77 [270]
6)theawesomestevr 146-78 [210]
7)Buffy_Summers 146-78 [160]
Consensus 146-78
8)Stripperiffic 144-80 [130]
9)terpaholic 143-81 [310]
10)Andel 142-82 [220]
11)5tarscream 141-83 [150]
12)Ashethan 141-83 [70]
13)BlueCrystalTear 140-84 [220]
14)Silvstedt 140-84 [170]
15)MitsuruKirijo 138-86 [130]
16)ProfessorLupin 138-86 [110]
17)cyan1001 137-87 [210]
18)Wicklebee 137-87 [200]
19)crazyisgood 135-89 [220]
20)Runemistress 134-90 [140]
21)KCF0107 133-91 [180]
22)Dancedreamer 132-92 [20]
23)WalkingWiki 126-98 [90]

Week 16 Schedule:
Indianapolis Colts @ Baltimore Ravens
Minnesota Vikings @ Green Bay Packers
Los Angeles Rams @ Tennessee Titans
Buffalo Bills @ New England Patriots
Cleveland Browns @ Chicago Bears
Atlanta Falcons @ New Orleans Saints
Detroit Lions @ Cincinnati Bengals
Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Carolina Panthers
Miami Dolphins @ Kansas City Chiefs
Denver Broncos @ Washington Redskins
Los Angeles Chargers @ New York Jets
Jacksonville Jaguars @ San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks @ Dallas Cowboys
New York Giants @ Arizona Cardinals
Pittsburgh Steelers @ Houston Texans
Oakland Raiders @ Philadelphia Eagles

Game of the Week:
Cleveland Browns @ Chicago Bears
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Suprak the Stud posted...

I understand, but then the issue is we can sit around feeling morally superior while we get thrashed in senate elections in 10+ states because we refuse to run candidates that would win.

A better solution is *coughmorepartiescough*
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

HaRRicH posted...

Just curious, what are the issues Republicans are strategically bending to Democrats on in order to be regularly viable in liberal states?

They're starting to bend on same sex marriage in some areas.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

6 years old easily.

Then become a 6 year old GM for the New York Jets
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Chicago Bears @ Detroit Lions LOCK
Both these teams seem on again, off again. But I'll take the Lions at home.

Los Angeles Chargers @ Kansas City Chiefs LOCK
Are the Chiefs back on track to win the division? Chiefs have been really good against their divisional opponents.

Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Even without Carson Wentz, the Eagles should be able to beat the Giants.

Cincinnati Bengals @ Minnesota Vikings
After struggling against the Panthers, the Vikings beat the weakest cat team this year.

Baltimore Ravens @ Cleveland Browns
Almost never pick the Browns.

Arizona Cardinals @ Washington Redskins
What is this world we're living in where I pick Blaine Gabbert's team.

Green Bay Packers @ Carolina Panthers
Aaron Rodgers is back. I think the Packers still miss the playoffs, however.

New York Jets @ New Orleans Saints LOCK
Saints should take this one with ease.

Miami Dolphins @ Buffalo Bills
Tyrod Taylor should be back. Which should give the Bills a good shot at taking this one.

Houston Texans @ Jacksonville Jaguars
T.J. Yates meet your worst nightmare.

Los Angeles Rams @ Seattle Seahawks
I don't think Seattle will lose two in a row here.

Tennessee Titans @ San Francisco 49ers
The Titans have fallen recently, and the 49ers have risen... but I think the Titans still pull it off.

New England Patriots @ Pittsburgh Steelers
And the Steelers finally lose one. New England is going to be out for blood after losing to the Dolphins.

Dallas Cowboys @ Oakland Raiders
Cowboys face a small challenge here, and without Zeke still, so I'll go with the Raiders.

Atlanta Falcons @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta's still hoping for a playoff spot. The Buccaneers are just hoping to finish respectably.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

If you don't live with them, just don't go. They can't make you. You're an adult. Learn to say no.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

Denver Broncos @ Indianapolis Colts
Taking a risk, and taking the Colts. Broncos haven't won on the road once this season, and their defeat of the Jets isn't really that impressive given how Bryce Petty played.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."

See if they'll go with you 3 hours to see a liberal speaker they probably can't stand.
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Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool."