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TopicGoogle Event in 40 minutes.
Antifar
10/06/22 9:22:50 AM
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TopicTunic is great. Why haven't you played it? Minor spoilers.
Antifar
10/06/22 8:10:18 AM
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I have played it, and it is spectacular

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TopicDeadly crush at soccer stadium in Indonesia sparked by police using tear gas
Antifar
10/06/22 8:07:17 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/06/indonesia-kanjuruhan-stadium-stampede-police/
A massive barrage of tear gas munitions fired by Indonesian police at soccer fans prompted the fatal crush in Malang last weekend that left at least 130 people dead, a Washington Post investigation shows.

The firing of at least 40 munitions at the crowd within a 10-minute span, in violation of national protocols and international security guidelines for soccer matches, sent fans streaming for the exits. The munitions included tear gas, flash bangs and flares.

Many fans were either trampled to death or fatally crushed against walls and metal gates because some of the exits were closed, the investigation found. The Indonesian National Police did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

The review based on an examination of more than 100 videos and photographs, interviews with 11 witnesses and analyses by crowd control experts and civil rights advocates reveals how the polices use of tear gas in response to several hundred fans entering the field caused a huge surge at the southern end of Kanjuruhan stadium, where survivors say the bulk of the deaths occurred. Several doors were locked, witnesses said, further fueling the panic. This was confirmed by the countrys president, who has ordered a safety review of stadiums in the country.

As of Thursday, officials said 131 people had died, including 40 children. Human rights groups, including Amnesty International Indonesia, say the toll in Indonesias Malang regency could be as high as 200.

The Indonesian government has called for an inquiry into the incident, which is among the deadliest crowd disasters ever recorded. Provincial police officials have said their use of tear gas was warranted because there was anarchy, but crowd control experts who reviewed a video reconstruction provided by The Post disagreed.

The chief of Malangs police department and nine other officers were dismissed Wednesday for their role in the disaster. Another 18 officers are also under investigation.

The police response violated the Football Association of Indonesias protocols, which state that all matches have to abide by security provisions laid out by FIFA, soccers global governing body. FIFA bars crowd control gas from being used inside stadiums and mandates that exit gates and emergency exits remain unobstructed at all times.

Videos provided exclusively to The Post show that police, shortly after the game ended, fired at least 40 nonlethal munitions at fans either on the field or in the stands. Much of the gas drifted toward seating sections, or tribunes, 11, 12 and 13.

Police standing in front of section 13 fired tear gas onto the field and upward into the stands, prompting thousands of spectators to evacuate their seats, videos show. Bottlenecks formed at the exits, which were only wide enough for one or two people to pass at a time, eyewitnesses said.

Clifford Stott, a professor at Keele University in Britain who studies the policing of sports fans, reviewed videos provided by The Post and said that what happened at Kanjuruhan was a direct result of police action combined with poor stadium management. Along with another crowd control expert and four civil rights advocates, he said the police use of tear gas was disproportionate.



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TopicThis is how restaurant servers are tricking you into giving bigger tips
Antifar
10/05/22 11:25:27 PM
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https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1577798692404330504
lol

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TopicDeep down inside, I think we all want Trump to run for president in 2024, right?
Antifar
10/05/22 12:56:04 PM
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The only thing he should be running is away, scared.

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TopicStarbucks fires union leader over suicide awareness pin
Antifar
10/04/22 8:08:35 PM
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https://twitter.com/josheidelson/status/1577379866038648832

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TopicNYPD taking people to Rikers without ever seeing a judge, lawsuit claims
Antifar
10/04/22 7:18:36 PM
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https://hellgatenyc.com/nypd-extrajudicial-rikers-policy
The New York City Police Department and the Department of Correction have been unlawfully taking New Yorkers straight from their arrest to detention on Rikers Island, without bringing them to court as required by state law, according to a new lawsuit.

The suit, which isbeing brought by four people held on Rikers without access to a court hearing, characterizes the practice as utterly lawless and nothing short of an extrajudicial campaign of terror and kidnapping.

In July of 2020, Paul Phillips was driving outside of Albany when police pulled him over for a traffic infraction. When the officer ran Phillipss drivers license, his name came back with an open bench warrantan open bench warrant from more than 30 years ago. The likelihood of a decades-old bench warrant still being open and unresolved is something close to zero, and indeed, Phillipss bench warrant had long since been closed, as police would have learned if they had taken Phillips before a judge, where the paperwork would be scrutinized. But police didnt take him before a judge, according to the complaint. The state police handed him to the NYPDs Bronx warrant division, which informed him that hed been brought in by mistake and shouldnt be there.

The NYPD could, at this point, have simply released Phillips. Alternatively, they could have promptly delivered him to a judge, who would have confirmed the bench warrant was long resolved, and released him. That didnt happen. Instead, the NYPD dropped Phillips off at Rikers Island. Staff refused to allow Phillips to take his prescribed medication for bipolar disorder, opioid addiction, and PTSD, according to the complaint, triggering opioid withdrawal, bipolar episodes, pain, panic, and anxiety.

Three days into Phillipss detention, a Legal Aid Society attorney who had been contacted by Phillipss desperate fiance called the Rikers jail where he was being held and asked what was going on. According to the complaint, the answer came back: The Department of Correction couldnt release Phillips because the way someone is released from custody is as a result of a court hearing, but Phillips didnt have any future court dates. Eventually, on the fourth day of his detention, Phillips was finally released, according to the complaint, with no paperwork memorializing what had happened to him or why.

Wrights co-plaintiffs in the suit were all also detained on the belief that they had an open bench warrant. A judge generally issues a bench warrant when someone misses a court date, or if they havent completed court-ordered community service. Unlike ordinary warrants, which lead to an arraignment, and, theoretically, a trial, bench warrants exist solely to get a person back in front of a judge. Once they have returned to court, the bench warrant is cleared.

State law says police, upon making an arrest on a bench warrant, must without unnecessary delay bring the defendant before the court in which it is returnable. Only if court is unavailable may police bring a defendant straight to jail, and even then they must bring them back to court as soon as it opens. In New York City, night courts run into the wee hours of the morning, and no one brought to central booking should have to wait more than a few hours before being brought before a judge.

Nevertheless, the NYPD Patrol Guide tells police that they can take people held on bench warrants straight to Rikers after 1700 hours on weekdays and on weekends," even though courts and judges are available during that time, a policy that the lawyers bringing the lawsuit say is clearly illegal. The NYPD and the New York City Law Department declined to comment for this story.

Other named plaintiffs in the case have their own disturbing stories.

Khaori Wright was in a car that was stopped by NYPD officers in May of 2020. When the police ran his name, they found a warrant attached to his name. Wright knew that hed previously cleared that warrant, and it wasnt valid anymore. He told this to the officers, but they took him into custody anyway. They brought him first to Central Booking in Brooklyn, and then, without ever presenting him to a judge, drove him straight to the Vernon C. Bain Center, New York Citys notorious jail barge floating in the East River.

This was doubly inappropriate, Wrights complaint says, because the underlying charge hed been facing in connection with the old bench warrant wasnt even bail eligible. Not only were police taking him to jail instead of to see a judge, they were doing so ostensibly for a case for which he couldnt be sent to jail pre-trial anyway.

Nevertheless, Wright found himself on the Boat, locked up in its intake center, a group-cage where people are supposed to stay for a day at most while theyre processed. Wright was there in the cage for seven days before he was eventually moved, sleeping on the floor, without reliable access to a toilet, sometimes locked in a shower stall.
Wright had a preexisting injury when the police took him into custody, and his jaw had been wired shut, so he couldnt eat solid food. On the Boat, he asked for something soft, but guards refused to give him anything he could eat, according to his complaint, and made fun of him, offering him soggy, moldy food.

All told it took 17 days for Wrights family to figure out what had happened to him and where he was, to reach his lawyer, and for his lawyer to get a judge to order his release. By the time he stepped off the Boat, Wright says in his complaint, he had lost 20 pounds and was profoundly traumatized, constantly afraid that he might again be plucked out of his life and locked up on the same bad warrant.

In November of 2019, Kylasyia Thompson was picked up by bounty hunters working for a bail bondsman, who said they were taking her into custody on a bench warrant. They drove her to the entrance to Rikers Island, according to her complaint, where police officers met them and instructed them to drive her across the causeway and turn her over to the Department of Correction.

DOC officials told her she shouldnt be there, and that without a future court date there was no mechanism for them to get her to court to secure her release, according to the complaint, but they put her in a cell anyway, where she remained for five days before she was ultimately able to see a judge.

How many other people have been sent into New York City jails on bench warrants that may or may not still be valid, without so much as seeing a judge, isnt known to the lawyers bringing the suit. Theyre not even sure the City knows, given that, without a future court date, such people become a kind of ghost detainee, especially difficult to track through the system. But they do believe that it isnt a handful of unfortunate coincidences. New York City is sending people to Rikers without seeing a judge, in violation of state law, as a matter of policy, they maintain in their lawsuit, which is why they are seeking certification as a class action to represent others in similar situations.

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TopicBREAKING: Musk to Buy Twitter at original price
Antifar
10/04/22 1:15:33 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Explain the big picture that Im missing please.

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1577344964404600832


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TopicBREAKING: Musk to Buy Twitter at original price
Antifar
10/04/22 12:47:13 PM
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https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1577337791532486657


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TopicLAPD officer beaten to death by fellow cops was investigating police gangrape
Antifar
10/04/22 8:38:53 AM
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That's not what is needed

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TopicLAPD officer beaten to death by fellow cops was investigating police gangrape
Antifar
10/04/22 8:05:00 AM
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Good morning

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TopicLAPD officer beaten to death by fellow cops was investigating police gangrape
Antifar
10/03/22 10:06:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/lukeoneil47/status/1577062563929415680

Background:
https://twitter.com/awalkerinLA/status/1577075993612677123

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TopicProfessor Jeffrey Sachs says it was the US who attacked pipeline
Antifar
10/03/22 9:21:20 PM
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We should destroy more pipelines, imo

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TopicThe richest man in the world has thoughts on the Russia/Ukraine war
Antifar
10/03/22 1:04:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000

Oh good

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TopicWhat does love mean to you?
Antifar
10/03/22 1:03:25 PM
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The willingness to put in the effort required to make coexistence work

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TopicIf you were a wrestler, what would your entrance music be?
Antifar
10/03/22 12:58:53 PM
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Well?

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TopicWhat's your favorite Beatles album?
Antifar
10/03/22 12:58:27 PM
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Abbey Road

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TopicStatistics from my last 200 likes on Hinge
Antifar
10/02/22 9:06:53 PM
#20
Why do you think the one has worked out where the others didn't?

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TopicCould you live off 600 a week after deductions?
Antifar
10/02/22 5:30:48 PM
#32
More than I currently live off of.

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TopicReplay in sports was a mistake
Antifar
10/02/22 5:28:08 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
The worst use of replay is in basketball when the ball goes out of bounds.
That, and every call that requires some degree of interpretation. It's wild that flagrant fouls are adjudicated by replay, to give a basketball example.

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TopicReplay in sports was a mistake
Antifar
10/02/22 5:15:31 PM
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The urge to "get the calls right" was understandable at the time, but the examination allowed by slow-mo video has resulted in an inane dissection of rulebooks in every sport where replay review has been introduced. Think about the catch rule in football, or players being called out because they slid over the base for a millisecond in baseball. Rather than end refereeing controversies, we've just expanded the category of things that can become controversial.

Reviews seem to take longer with each passing year, taking away from the drama of the rhythm and the pace of their respective games. And the lurking threat of replay means that important moments are undercut by the question of whether they'll be overturned minutes after the fact.

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TopicHow do you normally listen to music?
Antifar
10/02/22 10:55:08 AM
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Wireless earbuds probably 60 percent, 30 percent wired OTE, 10 percent speakers

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TopicMy earbuds fell into puddles today
Antifar
10/01/22 11:29:36 AM
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Separate occasions, too. Once while under a scaffolding trying to keep out of the rain, and once while fumbling with my umbrella to get on the bus.

They still work tho

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