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TopicDid this homeless man lie to me?
Annihilated
06/19/20 10:12:12 AM
#26
I was at a bus stop one time and this guy came up to me and gave me some whole spiel about how he needed a dollar to take the bus because his leg hurt and something something something. I gave him a dollar and he just walked away. Moral of the story, people on the street will tell you anything for any amount of money.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:22:48 PM
#65
DevsBro posted...
Eh I don't hate the idea as much as I used to but it still seems inefficient af for the gov't to take my money and then give it back instead if just letting me keep it.

You're right that an income tax under this system would be completely redundant, and possibly some of the social entitlements. Which is why the model of government revenue would have to shift from taxing income to taxing consumption, possibly a federal sales tax, increased capital gains taxes, real estate taxes, among other things. The underlying philosophy is that we as people are pretty shitty at managing money.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:12:58 PM
#61
el_cheato posted...
Do you not see a connection between too much time spent working and being deprived of community?

It's not because of time spent at work, we've been working 40 hour work weeks for about a hundred years at least. Nowadays it's because of technology and fear.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:58:52 PM
#58
el_cheato posted...
That's why I believe that if people had more say over how they spend their time, they would choose to do things that make them happy. People in the US are unhappy because they spend their entire lives working and don't have any leisure time. The structured 40 hour work week is a depression factory and culturally destructive.

None of those things are the reason people are unhappy. More than half of people either tolerate or actually like their jobs, and doing things on its own doesn't make you happy. What matters is human connection, which is the biggest thing that we're missing compared to decades ago and compared to other countries. We're making fewer friends, living farther away from families, going to fewer community gatherings like church or volunteering, and even dating is mostly just ghosting now. The idea that people doing whatever they please all the time or getting them whatever they want is harmful. Spoiled children are the unhappiest children and they always grow up to be bad and selfish people.

EndOfDiscOne posted...
There has to be a happy medium between 40 and 0 hours. I do believe that spending some time doing shit you don't want to do is good for you. You may want to play vidya 24/7, but it's not going to make you a happy person.

This is partly true I think, there is a sense of accomplishment behind the daily grind that makes all the other activities we enjoy feel special, and more importantly, feel earned. But I think the emphasis is not so much on whether or not you want to do the work as much as the constructiveness and the impact of the work itself. Job satisfaction is almost always higher in places where people are able to see the fruits of their labor, while tedious bureaucratic middle management type jobs are kind of mindless and soulless. There doesn't feel like there's any point to it, even though you know in abstract what your job is for.
TopicAnother one: Black Teen found dead by hanging in school parking lot in Texas.
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:16:53 PM
#96
Guide posted...
You act like the media is the only source of information, but it is very unusual for suicides to be public in the first place, regardless of method.

You'd have a point if you could actually show that people hanging themselves in public areas was already a normal thing, otherwise you're just making a baseless assumption.

Before Littleton, CO, mass school shootings were extremely uncommon and then other kids started doing them once the media made the killers into national superstars. I know this isn't on the same scale, but copycats are always itching for reasons.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:11:30 PM
#54
Tired-Insomniac posted...
Maybe they could just raise it with inflation every year to keep people satisfied.

That's another problem. How do we know that the extra income won't be baked into things like rent, education, and consumer goods? Just like how the cost of college has been skyrocketing ever since student loans became available to pretty much everyone. Universities thought "hey, they have money now, and WE like money, so why not have them give more of that money to us?"
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:07:11 PM
#50
el_cheato posted...
Time to oneself. Not having to worry about making rent. Not having to worry about being able to eat. Freedom to travel. Freedom to actually form communities now that you're not stuck in a stale office for more than half of your waking hours. Freedom to make art without having to worry about monetizing it. Freedom to be bad at things.
Do you really have no concept of a life outside of work?

As I've said, people have been working in one form or another since the dawn of man. It's in our blood. Hunting, farming, building, fishing, trading, delivering, researching, educating, there has always been something for people to do that improves their own survival as well as the survival of others. Having nothing but leisure time does not make most people happy. Look at how many famous actors and rich people are always getting into failed marriages, legal troubles, and suicides. Studies have shown that people in poorer countries than the U.S. are also happier than people in the U.S., which would not be the case if money were the reason for happiness.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 11:57:06 AM
#42
Tired-Insomniac posted...
This

$1000 a month per person isn't going to be enough to keep people out of work. If anything it'll maybe make people stop working two jobs, meaning more jobs will be available for other people.

This is why to some extent I support basic income as a "supplemental" service, except I know that eventually it will become corrupted into something like "BASIC income means LIVING income" just like minimum wage has. And no amount of money will ever be enough to placate everyone. It'll either be too much in low cost of living states or too little in expensive ones.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 11:53:12 AM
#37
el_cheato posted...
Are we supposed to deny freedom to everybody because of the few that abuse it?

The freedom to do what exactly? Drive stolen cars and throw burning trash cans at store windows? Have you ever heard of the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things?"
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 11:47:28 AM
#33
TeaMilk posted...
Most people will still work, but they won't be forced to labor at a soul sucking job to make ends meet. And the people who can't (disability, etc) won't have to worry about starving or going homeless

I know that in the near future most people will still work, I'm talking about the final endgame scenario where jobs as a source of income are no longer viable.

el_cheato posted...
You think people with lots of free time and boredom wouldn't try to make something interesting of themselves? I think the 40 hour work week is far more culturally harmful than having more free time.

A lot of people would do that sure, but believe me there are more than a handful of people who would like nothing more than to just make trouble. An example, about a month ago during the quarantine I came home from work to find about a dozen cop cars completely blocking the parking lot to my apartment. I had to park outside and walk all the way down, and from their conversations with bystanders I found out that they had just chased a guy driving a stolen car until he hit somebody's Mustang about 100 yards from my door. There may or may not have gunshots, I'm not sure if they were talking about at that incident or just in the area in general. The cop was saying that with the quarantine going on there were a lot of kids just getting into trouble and that's why they were out in the neighborhood a lot. I mean, we've had lots of government assistance and fewer jobs for only a couple of months, and look what happened. The country literally burst into flames.
TopicDo you believe in UBI? (Universal Basic Income)
Annihilated
06/18/20 11:29:57 AM
#17
All I can say is, regardless of whether or not UBI is feasible, sustainable, or will become necessary, we should pray that it never gets to that point. The reality is that people need to work, if only for our own mental health and sanity. The implications behind nobody needing to work anymore are such that after thousands of years, we as a species have reached the end of our progress, and all further resources would be dedicated to feeding and herding us like really expensive cattle in a civilization has nothing left to do but decay. Law enforcement presence would have to dramatically increase as there would be a lot of people roaming about with too much free time on their hands and a lot of boredom. It's not a pretty picture.
TopicWhat the fuck is the point of discs?
Annihilated
06/18/20 2:31:22 AM
#62
DevsBro posted...
Yep, that's one of two already-existing technologies I was thinking of. The other was this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sR1rU3gLzQ

But rather than a budget cutter, I see this being a possibility expander. Far more complex conversation systems and way more MGS codecs, so to speak. Maybe the technology can even be used laterally to create fully synthetic voices that humans can't possibly mimic, rather than just taking vocal recordings and applying effects and filters, except these will actually feel organic/intelligent, unlike your average GPS/Alexa/Microsoft Sam voice.

That's amazing. This kind of technology would be a literal game changer.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:34:16 AM
#313
UnfairRepresent posted...
He was shot in the back while running away.

"assaulting 2 officers" was him trying to run away.

You can't just ignore that. You're lying about reality to make out a situation that did not occur. He wasn't beating the officers, he wasn't risking their lives, the fact he was shot in the back while fleeing proves it.

Unless he had lethal farts that could destroy Manhattan the cop who shot him did not need to shoot him and I'll repeat in Europe or New Zealand or Canada or Australia or Japan would not have done. The perp would just have been arrested.

You can't ignore that. You can't expect everyone else to ignore that just because you want to.

And you can't handwave the police incompetence that led to that situation.

You're literally holding the drunk dude in a parking lot to a higher standard than cops. And that's insane.

Assaulting two officers was HOW he ran away. You can't ignore that. WITH one of their weapons. You can't ignore that. And he was unstable and a threat to others. You can't ignore that. You can't expect everyone else to ignore that just because you want to.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:24:00 AM
#304
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm only responding to what people are saying

"Well he was drunk and ran so you reap what you sow!"

Also speaks volumes that you've ignored every point I made to complain about me responding points other people made because those points are dumb

Because everything you say is exactly the fucking same. NOT ONE PERSON EVER SAID THIS. He got ARRESTED for a DUI and SHOT for resisting and assaulting two officers. Period.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:19:10 AM
#298
UnfairRepresent posted...


Why do you ignore nearly everything people say then just say emotionally charged nonsense and strawmen?

Funny coming from someone who incessantly repeats "hurr durr they shot him cuz he was drunk."
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 1:01:13 AM
#276
Jiggy101011 posted...
You know what has a higher chance of survival? Chasing down a suspect instead of shooting them.

You know what has an even higher chance than that? Not resisting arrest and not fighting armed police officers and stealing their weapons and using it against them.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:59:35 AM
#271
UnfairRepresent posted...
Living or dying it's a big deal to shoot someone in the back

Not if they're shooting BACK AT YOU.

UnfairRepresent posted...
and if you shoot someone you do it kill them

Hell if a cop (or anyone for that matter) is shooting at someone they are not trying to kill then they fucked up. Guns are lethal weapons.

If you shoot someone you've decided to kill them. If they happen to live, that doesn't change that you decided to kill them.

Wrong, you do it to stop them. The torso can take many bullets and victims can survive as long as several hours. Paramedics would arrive long before then. Stop propagating this lie.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:52:09 AM
#255
Jiggy101011 posted...
So the answer is to shoot him in the back instead of chasing on foot? So you agree the cops were lazy? Weren't fit enough to chase after a suspect?

The decision was made to end a man's life instead of using their feet.

No, the decision was made to shoot him. Shooting does not mean killing, lots of people survive police gunshots.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:45:36 AM
#248
Jiggy101011 posted...
There is a line between its not ok to defend yourself and shooting a drunk in the back. Again, it was a fucking tazer.

They had his car
They had his drivers license
He was running away from them with a tazer

What exactly would have been the worse case scenario? He got a way for a few hours? They knew where he lived because they had his info. Cops are supposed to be fit right? Handle foot chases? And yet instead of doing that they pull out their gun and shoot.

And what the hell makes you think that he would go to the ONE place they know to look for him? Jesus, there is ZERO brainpower in this hive mind.
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/18/20 12:37:13 AM
#240
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Like the mayor and her cronies decided its okay for someone to beat you up, take your, and use it against you. Gee, I wonder why cops would not want to work there anymore, bad cops

These people have already said they're fine with getting thousands of people infected with Coronavirus in the name of their anti-cop hate boner, do you really think they give a shit about one cop?
TopicLiberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:43:45 PM
#219
chrono625 posted...
If you cant handle being cops just quit!

cops quit.

fucking snowflakes, cant handle the heat and cant not murder innocent people!

this is CE. The cesspool of demented extremism.

you should be happy all of these supposedly racist killers are walking out, no one to ruthlessly murder minorities anymore.

Libs demolished in a single post. Nothing else needs to be said.
TopicWhat the fuck is the point of discs?
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:22:33 PM
#56
DevsBro posted...
It's pretty amazing how close we are already.

Pretty soon voice actors will simply record a sentence or phrase, reverse engineer a model and license it out. Hell, soon after that we'll be seeing Troy Baker 2.1 in the game's credits.

Google already has an AI that is sophisticated enough to call businesses and make appointments, and the recipient has no idea they're talking to a computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VN56jQMWM

It's got a few small hiccups but it's like 95% perfect. Imagine if that was in a game, not only would you have a lot more free space and less cost to develop games, you could actually be able to talk to NPCs in the game. I think in a generation or two we could definitely see this happen.
TopicWhat the fuck is the point of discs?
Annihilated
06/17/20 1:11:21 PM
#31
Game size is going to drop dramatically once we perfect dynamic AI speech and make voice actors obsolete.
TopicThe protesters taking down statues of the founding fathers is so ironic.
Annihilated
06/17/20 1:06:44 PM
#5
What's even more ironic is a lot of these protesters SHOULD be considered racist even by today's standards, but rather than being condemned by society and the media they are celebrated.
TopicShould The Simpsons apologize for Apu?
Annihilated
06/17/20 12:15:22 PM
#29
ssk9716757 posted...
the difference is if you're white you can switch over to almost any other movie or TV show and see white characters taken seriously. even black people have Denzel or Forest Whitaker or Morgan Freeman and their various serious roles. South Asian people are almost universally portrayed as comedic relief, and Apu contributed heavily to that.

Yeah it's not like Simpsons characters were ever comedic or anything, just Apu.
TopicDefunding the police is stupid.
Annihilated
06/17/20 12:13:14 PM
#14
ZMythos posted...
Because "reform" doesn't address the inherent racism and corruption in the system.

Defund means to dismantle and rebuild from the ground up

And a mod actually told me that people talking about "defunding" actually knew what it meant. ROFL, nope.
TopicShould The Simpsons apologize for Apu?
Annihilated
06/17/20 12:11:53 PM
#24
ssk9716757 posted...
the difference is if you're white you can switch over to almost any other movie or TV show and see white characters taken seriously. even black people have Denzel or Forest Whitaker or Morgan Freeman and their various serious roles. South Asian people are almost universally portrayed as comedic relief, and Apu contributed heavily to that.

Yeah it's not like Simpsons characters were ever comedic or anything, just Apu.
TopicHow many people are on your block list currently?
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:53:54 AM
#14
It says 3 but I only see 2.
Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:36:02 AM
#32
Antifar posted...
Before

Seems like a mistake, if true. Better to train cops in unarmed submission responsibly, especially if you don't want them to go around clubbing and shooting people.
TopicBlack woman say Democrats are evil + racist while Repubs are truth, 6.3m views!!
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:26:22 AM
#19
ssk9716757 posted...
not with racism towards minorities, no.

"Anyone who disagrees with my racist policies is a racist"
TopicBlack woman say Democrats are evil + racist while Repubs are truth, 6.3m views!!
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:23:14 AM
#14
ssk9716757 posted...
I'm fine with minorities having whatever beliefs they want. at the end of the day they're the ones being personally affected by any racist stuff they support, and as a minority (albeit not black) I totally understand the feeling of being boxed into an expected set of beliefs.

no excuse for white people though.

"Minorities can be free thinkers but white people can't."
TopicDo you consider the brand Aunt Jemima to be racist?
Annihilated
06/17/20 11:06:12 AM
#2
Outdated, if anything
Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Annihilated
06/17/20 10:50:29 AM
#9
Antifar posted...
Chokeholds were banned in NYC when Eric Garner was killed

Before or after?

TopicAunt Jemima is getting cancelled on social media
Annihilated
06/17/20 12:41:36 AM
#62
Kolibri X posted...
So.... what's their endgame? Cancel all ethnic minority mascots until only the white ones remain? (Colonel Sanders, Captain Morgan, Chef Boyardee, ect) lol

I doubt they're after a cancel, just a rebrand. Calling it "Jemima" should work fine, it's recognizable enough. Whether it's worth the trouble is up to them.
TopicLive: President Trump on the Police at 12pm
Annihilated
06/16/20 1:03:37 PM
#81
Captain_Qwark posted...
"School choice is the civil rights cause of the year....decade.....longer than that"

Jeeeeeeeesus christ

Umm, what? A lot of black kids are stuck in underfunded terrible segregated schools and literally can't go anywhere else. School choice is a big step in the right direction.
TopicWhy do people on the right cry so much about getting censored on the net?
Annihilated
06/16/20 10:59:07 AM
#27
Real_Account posted...
...when the great vast majority of them are low-tier trolls who contribute absolutely nothing of value to the discussion?

sktgamer_13dude posted...
"People have it worse off, quit your bitching. Bootstraps!"

TopicWhy do people on the right cry so much about getting censored on the net?
Annihilated
06/16/20 10:24:51 AM
#21
Tmaster148 posted...
He's only proving my statement true.

No, that WAS you. I remember, I said Joe Biden was a moderate and you spaced out like a stoner. It was really fucking weird.
TopicWhy do people on the right cry so much about getting censored on the net?
Annihilated
06/16/20 10:21:57 AM
#18
Tmaster148 posted...
Annihilated entire gimmick is to basically attack something no one said which is basically contributing nothing.

Aren't you that guy who didn't know what a moderate was?
TopicWhy do people on the right cry so much about getting censored on the net?
Annihilated
06/16/20 10:19:43 AM
#13
Vivec posted...
lmao you definitely disproved his point with this post

I don't have to disprove something with zero supporting evidence and is false as a premise.
TopicWhy do people on the right cry so much about getting censored on the net?
Annihilated
06/16/20 10:16:39 AM
#4
Real_Account posted...
...when the great vast majority of them are low-tier trolls who contribute absolutely nothing of value to the discussion?

Nope
TopicIf you suddenly die, how will you let CE know? >_>
Annihilated
06/16/20 9:46:51 AM
#19
I won't. I disappear all the time. Nobody would ever know.
TopicNo new cases in California despite protests.
Annihilated
06/16/20 12:38:26 AM
#28
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Remember when the lake of the Ozarks had all those memorial day parties? I think twocases came from that.

And the great clips worker who worked while showing symptoms? No cases came from the over 100 people she came into contact with at the salon.

I thought the hair stylist got one of her coworkers sick. Or got sick from them, I forget which. If that's the case, how the hell did this virus spread so quickly in the first place? We're not anywhere close to a herd immunity.
TopicL'Oreal has a message for white people
Annihilated
06/16/20 12:14:38 AM
#234
VipaGTS posted...
White People: "what about black on black crime!? how come Black people don't wok on fixing their own culture first?"

Also White People: "I can't believe they'd generalize all white people like that"

They had it until that 3rd panel, though. While not entirely false, it is presented in a really dumb way and adds nothing to this movement.

That's an especially weak admonishment, even for you.
TopicRemoved Statues should be preserved in a museum
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:23:53 PM
#3
Only if there's something historically noteworthy about them. If the city council just said "hey guys I think a statue would look good here, let's get a sculptor or something" I don't see why it should take up museum space.
TopicL'Oreal has a message for white people
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:20:53 PM
#149
Guide posted...
Why do you lie like this? You have lefties here calling a yikes.

As it is.

You were saying?
TopicPolice mace child and then arrest filmer
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:17:29 PM
#39
legendary_zell posted...
If you believe that it's near guaranteed that police will act with violence towards a protest, peaceful or otherwise, doesn't that mean that the protesters are right about the police being brutal and lawless?

If you DIDN'T believe police would react in a violent manner, then why do you protest in the first place? And if you DID believe they would act violently, why would you knowingly bring a small child right in the middle of it? Who the hell taught you to debate anyway?
TopicPolice mace child and then arrest filmer
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:09:46 PM
#36
Ruvan22 posted...
Maybe they believed the police would act reasonably and not mace without reason?

The police are not the only ones there. Protests are no place for children, especially anti police ones.
TopicPolice mace child and then arrest filmer
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:03:13 PM
#32
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Thats not a defense to macing a child.

No it's not, but worse things could easily happen in that environment. The macing is beside the point.
TopicPolice mace child and then arrest filmer
Annihilated
06/15/20 1:00:25 PM
#30
legendary_zell posted...
Tigers like children and families at peaceful protests?

No, tigers like criminals who steal and murder.

legendary_zell posted...
I'd even accept a bonobo or an orangutan at this point.

That explains a lot.
TopicL'Oreal has a message for white people
Annihilated
06/15/20 12:52:21 PM
#132
darkphoenix181 posted...
Guessing alot of posters agree with her hate speech.

Called it.
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