Current Events > Do you consider the brand Aunt Jemima to be racist?

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AirJordan2345 06/17/20 11:05:13 AM #1:	do you? you know the pancake syrup etc...... yes i don't but i do understand if others might nope do you? you know the pancake syrup etc...... - Results (46 votes) yes 45.65% (21 votes) 21 i don't but i do understand if others might 13.04% (6 votes) 6 nope 41.3% (19 votes) 19 topico <cite>AirJordan2345 posted [p:940804050] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote> do you? you know the pancake syrup etc...... yes i don't but i do understand if others might nope Vote View Results do you? you know the pancake syrup etc...... - Results (46 votes) yes 45.65% (21 votes) 21 i don't but i do understand if others might 13.04% (6 votes) 6 nope 41.3% (19 votes) 19 Show Voting Form topico </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/17/20 11:06:12 AM #2:	Outdated, if anything <cite>Annihilated posted [p:940804085] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Outdated, if anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 06/17/20 11:07:48 AM #3:	yes <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:940804149] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote> yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/17/20 11:07:53 AM #4:	It used to be, which is apparently all that matters. This is a culture that digs up tweets from a decade ago to discredit and "cancel" someone. Why not dig up old logos from the 1890s as well? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940804153] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>It used to be, which is apparently all that matters. This is a culture that digs up tweets from a decade ago to discredit and "cancel" someone. Why not dig up old logos from the 1890s as well? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 06/17/20 11:08:53 AM #5:	It was in the past, but now? No, and getting rid of it just seems a bit silly. --- You were the lugubrious spirit, the geist that warned this frozen silent storm https://imgur.com/WXUtvXj <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:940804202] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>It was in the past, but now? No, and getting rid of it just seems a bit silly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 06/17/20 11:11:57 AM #6:	If you look at the current label in a vacuum its fine But I never knew about the history until recently, if its such an issue idc too much if it goes away --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:940804311] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>If you look at the current label in a vacuum its fine But I never knew about the history until recently, if its such an issue idc too much if it goes away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 06/17/20 11:12:06 AM #7:	Mildly, yes. I can understand those who feel that she should be replaced. She's been a bye word for decades. Rebranding would be difficult though. If you call her Aunt Jem, there's the problem that "Aunt" is what the South called older Black women when they couldn't give her a title of Ms. or Mrs.. If they call her Grandma Jemima, you have the dated personal name. Either option would still tie into the origin of her as a minstrel character. Maybe they could rebrand the syrup after the parent company? Quaker Oats Syrup? --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:940804320] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Mildly, yes. I can understand those who feel that she should be replaced. She's been a bye word for decades. Rebranding would be difficult though. If you call her Aunt Jem, there's the problem that "Aunt" is what the South called older Black women when they couldn't give her a title of Ms. or Mrs.. If they call her Grandma Jemima, you have the dated personal name. Either option would still tie into the origin of her as a minstrel character. Maybe they could rebrand the syrup after the parent company? Quaker Oats Syrup? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/17/20 11:12:19 AM #8:	Yeah People have definitly gone after more innocuous things --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:940804334] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Yeah People have definitly gone after more innocuous things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssk9716757 06/17/20 11:13:34 AM #9:	Questionmarktarius posted... It used to be, which is apparently all that matters. This is a culture that digs up tweets from a decade ago to discredit and "cancel" someone. Why not dig up old logos from the 1890s as well? >literally has racist origins >somehow not racist anymore lol ok --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:940804388] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>It used to be, which is apparently all that matters. This is a culture that digs up tweets from a decade ago to discredit and "cancel" someone. Why not dig up old logos from the 1890s as well?</quote> >literally has racist origins >somehow not racist anymore lol ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 06/17/20 11:14:26 AM #10:	I never even about it being racist. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:940804428] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>I never even about it being racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 06/17/20 11:16:01 AM #11:	You gonna cancel uncle Ben too? --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:940804503] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>You gonna cancel uncle Ben too? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Timohtep 06/17/20 11:16:10 AM #12:	Currently in a vacuum I'd say no. But you can't really look at stuff like this in a vacuum --- https://imgur.com/wwCOg https://imgur.com/tu3lv https://imgur.com/kEMcd https://imgur.com/GIjGS 3.5.2 <cite>Timohtep posted [p:940804512] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Currently in a vacuum I'd say no. But you can't really look at stuff like this in a vacuum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/17/20 11:16:26 AM #13:	GrandConjuraton posted... It was in the past, but now? No, and getting rid of it just seems a bit silly. Pepsico has almost certainly crunched the numbers, and likely discovered that the bulk of the existing customer base for the current brand of mediocre pancake mix and syrup was probably told to quit eating pancakes by a doctor several years ago. There's an opportunity for easy "look how woke we are!" marketing, while the potential lost customers isn't a particularly large number anyway. Gillette already demonstrated this a couple or three years ago. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940804527] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>GrandConjuraton posted... </cite> <quote>It was in the past, but now? No, and getting rid of it just seems a bit silly.</quote>Pepsico has almost certainly crunched the numbers, and likely discovered that the bulk of the existing customer base for the current brand of mediocre pancake mix and syrup was probably told to quit eating pancakes by a doctor several years ago. There's an opportunity for easy "look how woke we are!" marketing, while the potential lost customers isn't a particularly large number anyway. Gillette already demonstrated this a couple or three years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 06/17/20 11:17:58 AM #14:	As a black woman I don't think this is offensive --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:940804597] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>As a black woman I don't think this is offensive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/17/20 11:18:43 AM #15:	ssk9716757 posted... >literally has racist origins >somehow not racist anymore lol ok Meanwhile, at Volkswagen... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940804640] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>>literally has racist origins >somehow not racist anymore lol ok</quote>Meanwhile, at Volkswagen... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Austin_Era_II 06/17/20 11:19:36 AM #16:	Questionmarktarius posted... Meanwhile, at Volkswagen... Checkmate --- Currently gaming: Metal Gear Solid V MCMLXXXV <cite>Austin_Era_II posted [p:940804674] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Meanwhile, at Volkswagen...</quote> Checkmate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssk9716757 06/17/20 11:20:35 AM #17:	Questionmarktarius posted... Meanwhile, at Volkswagen... if a Volkswagen looked like a caricature of a Jewish person, sure --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:940804718] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Meanwhile, at Volkswagen...</quote> if a Volkswagen looked like a caricature of a Jewish person, sure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 06/17/20 11:20:39 AM #18:	I always wondered how the fuck Aunt Jemima somehow was still around as a branding. --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:940804723] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>I always wondered how the fuck Aunt Jemima somehow was still around as a branding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 06/17/20 11:21:40 AM #19:	washington redskins is still around this country is founded on racism <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:940804756] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>washington redskins is still around this country is founded on racism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/17/20 11:24:39 AM #20:	GoodOlJr posted... If you look at the current label in a vacuum its fine But I never knew about the history until recently, if its such an issue idc too much if it goes away a significant part of the problem is that people think it exists in a vacuum --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:940804888] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>If you look at the current label in a vacuum its fine But I never knew about the history until recently, if its such an issue idc too much if it goes away</quote>a significant part of the problem is that people think it exists in a vacuum </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/17/20 11:28:01 AM #21:	coolboy11 posted... I always wondered how the fuck Aunt Jemima somehow was still around as a branding. For the same reason Sugar Bear is still the brand logo of a breakfast cereal that excised "sugar" from the name well over thirty years ago. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940805012] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>coolboy11 posted... </cite> <quote>I always wondered how the fuck Aunt Jemima somehow was still around as a branding.</quote>For the same reason Sugar Bear is still the brand logo of a breakfast cereal that excised "sugar" from the name well over thirty years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 06/17/20 11:39:50 AM #22:	averagejoel posted... a significant part of the problem is that people think it exists in a vacuum If you read my posts sometimes I come off as right wing or an edgelord I dont have much of an issue with this decision, I agree with a lot of what im reading Another brand im thinking of is "stubbs" its a bbq rub with a black man on the label Afaik its a recent brand, and a real person so its different right? https://www.stubbsbbq.com/en-ca --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:940805515] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> a significant part of the problem is that people think it exists in a vacuum </quote> If you read my posts sometimes I come off as right wing or an edgelord I dont have much of an issue with this decision, I agree with a lot of what im reading Another brand im thinking of is "stubbs" its a bbq rub with a black man on the label Afaik its a recent brand, and a real person so its different right? https://www.stubbsbbq.com/en-ca</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexhander 06/17/20 12:16:37 PM #24:	I mean the mascot is literally a mammy --- the Bate <cite>Alexhander posted [p:940807224] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>I mean the mascot is literally a mammy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/17/20 12:17:08 PM #25:	never thought about it much before but after learning on the true origins and history of the mascot, yes <cite>Zikten posted [p:940807240] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>never thought about it much before but after learning on the true origins and history of the mascot, yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 06/17/20 12:19:22 PM #27:	Its racist yes but the real issues is how Quaker Oats completely screwed the lady and other models out of royalty checks --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:940807357] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Its racist yes but the real issues is how Quaker Oats completely screwed the lady and other models out of royalty checks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/17/20 12:21:28 PM #28:	J E S U S posted... You gonna cancel uncle Ben too? Are you aware that Uncle Ben is just the male version of Aunt Jemima. Uncle and Aunt were the terms used to refer to older black folks in the jim crow south. Much like calling young black men "boy". --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:940807435] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>J E S U S posted... </cite> <quote>You gonna cancel uncle Ben too?</quote>Are you aware that Uncle Ben is just the male version of Aunt Jemima. Uncle and Aunt were the terms used to refer to older black folks in the jim crow south. Much like calling young black men "boy". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/17/20 12:22:41 PM #29:	ssk9716757 posted... if a Volkswagen looked like a caricature of a Jewish person, sure If we're going to dig into the past of a logo that's been blandly generic since 1989, may as well remember that Volkswagen was literally started by literally Hitler. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940807504] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>if a Volkswagen looked like a caricature of a Jewish person, sure</quote>If we're going to dig into the past of a logo that's been blandly generic since 1989, may as well remember that Volkswagen was literally started by literally Hitler. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexhander 06/17/20 12:25:45 PM #30:	"dig into the past" when is this guy not arguing in bad faith --- the Bate <cite>Alexhander posted [p:940807656] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>"dig into the past" when is this guy not arguing in bad faith </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/17/20 12:26:04 PM #31:	cmiller4642 posted... yes lol old timey racism was so laughably over-the-top --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:940807673] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted... </cite> <quote> yes</quote>lol old timey racism was so laughably over-the-top </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Austin_Era_II 06/17/20 12:27:59 PM #32:	She talks like vegy <____< --- Currently gaming: Metal Gear Solid V MCMLXXXV <cite>Austin_Era_II posted [p:940807775] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>She talks like vegy <____< </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 06/17/20 12:34:10 PM #33:	eston posted... lol old timey racism was so laughably over-the-top But that's really how people viewed black women in that era. <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:940808076] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>lol old timey racism was so laughably over-the-top</quote> But that's really how people viewed black women in that era. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/17/20 12:35:17 PM #34:	cmiller4642 posted... But that's really how people viewed black women in that era. Oh I know, it's just so brazen compared to the racism we're used to. I can't help but laugh --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:940808128] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted... </cite> <quote>But that's really how people viewed black women in that era.</quote>Oh I know, it's just so brazen compared to the racism we're used to. I can't help but laugh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 06/17/20 12:36:06 PM #35:	Austin_Era_II posted... She talks like vegy <____< lol --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:940808167] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Austin_Era_II posted... </cite> <quote>She talks like vegy <____<</quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 06/17/20 12:36:27 PM #36:	"oftener"? --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:940808179] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>"oftener"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oderus Urungus 06/17/20 12:49:20 PM #37:	It's just an old version of more often. <cite>Oderus Urungus posted [p:940808784] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>It's just an old version of more often. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 06/17/20 1:17:54 PM #38:	Fuckin oldies --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:940810049] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Fuckin oldies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SocialistGamer 06/17/20 1:19:22 PM #39:	cmiller4642 posted... yes @Vegy @ssj3vegeta2 --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:940810119] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted...</cite> <quote> yes </quote> @Vegy @ssj3vegeta2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 06/17/20 1:22:22 PM #40:	Might as well buy one now before the change, as it will become a collector's item down the line. <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:940810262] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Might as well buy one now before the change, as it will become a collector's item down the line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 06/17/20 4:50:13 PM #41:	Rip aunt jemima. The current one on the bottle was one proud woman of color that made pancakes and waffles enjoyable. Its definitely not the same as the fat uneducated woman from the old ads that could be construed as racist. <cite>L0Z posted [p:940820549] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Rip aunt jemima. The current one on the bottle was one proud woman of color that made pancakes and waffles enjoyable. Its definitely not the same as the fat uneducated woman from the old ads that could be construed as racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 06/18/20 6:45:23 AM #42:	Uh I guess that racism is over, guys. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:940850848] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Uh I guess that racism is over, guys. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muflaggin 06/18/20 7:32:11 AM #43:	Literally being offended by pancake syrup. This world man. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Muflaggin posted [p:940851774] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Literally being offended by pancake syrup. This world man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 06/18/20 7:39:14 AM #44:	Muflaggin posted... Literally being offended by pancake syrup. This world man. Did you miss the discussion about the origins of the mascot or are you just a dumbass? --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:940851944] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Muflaggin posted... </cite> <quote>Literally being offended by pancake syrup. This world man.</quote> Did you miss the discussion about the origins of the mascot or are you just a dumbass? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 06/18/20 7:39:51 AM #45:	Why would I be offended by the image of a black woman? <cite>coh posted [p:940851966] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>Why would I be offended by the image of a black woman? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 06/18/20 8:32:26 AM #46:	I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim? --- https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb <cite>VTBM posted [p:940853240] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/18/20 10:02:40 AM #47:	VTBM posted... I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim? where was anyone talking about banning anything? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:940856124] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>VTBM posted... </cite> <quote>I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim?</quote>where was anyone talking about banning anything? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/18/20 10:04:20 AM #48:	cmiller4642 posted... yes Is this the most recent evidence you can find? --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940856196] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted... </cite> <quote> yes</quote>Is this the most recent evidence you can find? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Timohtep 06/18/20 10:11:53 AM #49:	VTBM posted... I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim? Nothing was banned, and the protests were not about that. Stop trying to attach the current movement to PR moves put out by megacorporations to save face and get free marketing --- https://imgur.com/wwCOg https://imgur.com/tu3lv https://imgur.com/kEMcd https://imgur.com/GIjGS 3.5.2 <cite>Timohtep posted [p:940856498] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>VTBM posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see how removing a person of color solves racism. So are we also going to ban Uncle Ben, Looney Tunes, Disney, countless other things? Will they remove the Quaker Oats guy because he represents the start of "institutionalized" racsim? </quote> Nothing was banned, and the protests were not about that. Stop trying to attach the current movement to PR moves put out by megacorporations to save face and get free marketing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SH_expert44 06/18/20 10:13:04 AM #50:	cmiller4642 posted... yes If this is racist, why is Vegy allowed to post like that? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L https://imgur.com/A3kur0P https://imgur.com/Hj9RrC6 <cite>SH_expert44 posted [p:940856542] in Do you con... [t:78778668]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted... </cite> <quote> yes</quote>If this is racist, why is Vegy allowed to post like that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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