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FBike1 posted...

Huff n puff 20 posted...

It says Companion on Morgan's Stat Screen, and Wife on Inigo's.

I think that just says something about Inigo.

Very True.
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Here's what that looks like:




They were pulled from this Apoth Run video [No "Big 3", SR Cleared]

[The Big 3 are the most powerful skills in the game at end/post game: Limit Breaker [DLC- Rogues and Redeemers 3], Aggressor [DLC Class, Dread Fighter L15] and Rallies [A Skill Subset found on several classes]. If you use all 3, it basically invalidates everything in the game because they give you +20 All Stats, and +10 Additional [30 Total] Attack on Males. Which, by itself is lethal to everything in the game. (Minimum 80 damage on initiate)]



Video is very long, and at this point due to "No Big 3" being upended by "No DLC + No Rallies", only the first 2 minutes and a segment from Wave 4 [that has its own video] is worth anything.

(Mentioned Segment from Wave 4: Severa vs those lance guys. It doesn't look like much, but these Lance fools have like 240+ Hit and are packing immense Defense as well as Dragonskin and Pavise/Aegis+.)

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mnkboy907 posted...

Archers are wonderful in Echoes, due to the increased range it gives them.

Not just the Range.

Hunter's Volley. Broken ass shit right there.
Too bad Python can't hit the broadside of a Battleship, less a Barn, or importantly, the enemy.
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Archers and Snipers are great in Awakening.
Longbow is overpowered.
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MysteriousStan posted...

Oh yeah, didn't mean to imply that that was universal or anything. I actually quite like Awakening and it has some of my favorite characters in it, pair up is cool though broken, the children were implemented excellently imo. Fates just hit every wrong note for me.

Anyway, I always hated Nah's map, like I know you can cheese it but that's not really my style. Always saved that one for last. Gerome's map is difficult but I don't remember having as much of a problem with it as I did with Nah's map.

Nah's is very cheeseable, and then it's not as difficult enemy wise as Gerome's. It's just annoying with the shifting walls.
Gerome's literally is comparable to Endgame in terms of how powerful the enemy is. Add in the fact that it's a bunch of 1-tile passageways while you get rushed by Wyvern Lords and you're supposed to be protecting more green wimps, it's awful.

And then Gerome himself is... mostly not good. If you don't have him pick up Berserker, he'll never amount to much. (Anyone who suggests Frederick should father him is giving bad advice and needs be slapped).
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Peace___Frog posted...

He's Nightwing

Fixed.

He's not Batman.
And he's got a lot of issues as a unit, on top of having the hardest chapter.
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Lopen posted...

Huh I never put that together I just thought the balance wasn't remotely thought out and some of them ended up disproportionately difficult as a result. I guess that makes sense on paper-- in practice it doesn't cause you aren't likely to unlock them in that order.

Actually it does, because there's a minimum amount of maps you must play to unlock each kid.

Mother's join Chapter +8.
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Oh, in case you didn't know this, the difficulty of the Child Maps is based on when their assigned parent joined.

Lucina's isn't a Paralogue.
Morgan has the easiest,
Then Owain,
Then Kjelle
So on, so forth following when the Mother joined.

...The hardest is Gerome's. Unless you plan on using Gerome [he's not that good at all unless he got Berserker as a class option] he's not worth getting since his map is endgame level and horribly designed.
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Punnyz posted...

oh I guess one of them is Miriel's kid

though I don't know the other one

Top right is Nah's.
"Daughter to Dragons".

Tip: The boss is in attack range from your spawn.Though, you'll need the Siege tome, Mire, to exploit that.

Mire can be bought from Bonus Team -> Thracia 776 -> Raydrik.
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Punnyz posted...

Knights are cool but in this game, they have those silly neckbrace things

It just looks weird

Knights and Generals look like dumb Football Players in Awakening.
Cavaliers look odd.

Generic Great Knights are "Reality is Unrealistic" since they're actually based off a real heavy cavalry armor set from the 1450s.
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trdl23 posted...

MysteriousStan posted...

As an older FE player I think it's one of the worst games I've ever played but to each their own really.

This is me, but it extends to Awakening as well. God I hate Waifu Emblem.

It's certainly not universal, and then there's cases like me who hate Fates, but love Awakening.
I love the older games and Awakening, but utterly despise Fates.

Also Gaiden > Shadows of Valentia. Thank you Act 4, you suck.
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Punnyz posted...

whats a spotpass character

There's two types:

The First are Einherjar- you get them from Bonus Teams. They're Robins with sometimes unique skills. One has a unique Class. They cannot support at all.

The other are the "Spotpass Six"- These are proper, canon, characters in the game. You get them from the Bonus Maps. All of them except Priam, the Radiant Hero, are kinda sorta heavy spoilers. Priam though, just sorta left fields things. Not much to him- he's to Ike what Chrom and Lucina are to Marth and that's really it-- he doesn't have Aether as a proper skill because fuck no is Male Morgan touching that skill, but he does have Aether otherwise [hence Sol and Luna]. But uh, his map is rough to say the least. These characters have supports only with Robin. Though, one of them has Shiny Tile Conversations with Chrom and Lissa, and another one of them, another has shiny tile conersations with Say'ri.
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Panthera posted...

The recurring theme of her supports is that it really isn't like she has any particular reason for not knowing how to have normal interactions with people besides that she doesn't care about other people as anything other than tools for her experiments and general amusement,

Basically.

And with Noire, she outright breaks Noire's mind.

She outright is in the same category as Peri, Lifis, and Oliver.

Panthera posted...

unless they're Robin in which case she's just a creepy stalker because reasons

Said reasons aren't anything deep either.
Some people read into things in the way wrong direction.
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Peace___Frog posted...

She's a loving mother. Noire is one of the best characters.

If abusing and experimenting on someone is "loving" then, the definition of "loving" must have changed from any common person's understanding.
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Punnyz posted...

shes weird but I don't see anything wrong with Tharja so far

The big problems hit when you encounter Noire.
But, just so you know, notice how Robin got sick during the support?
Tharja is to blame.

I'll go ahead and throw down the quotes now:

Asking - Child

"Noire/Morgan, can I practice on you? ...I mean, practice WITH you?" (train)
"Anything you need, Noire/Morgan? You deserve a reward for being my guinea pig." (gift)
"Are you all right, Noire/Morgan? You look pale. That may be my fault..." (concern)
Replying
"... ...Or at least sacrifice to advance it. Care to help me test the teethgrinder hex?" (story) "
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

Team Rocket Elite posted...

Not even for a swimsuit Tharja CG?

Go oooon

[Insert Curtains here]
Summer Scramble. Chrom, Cordelia, Tharja, and Gaius in Swimsuits.

Hot Spring Scramble has Lucina, Inigo, Owain and Severa in Yukatas.

Note that if you exclude Chrom and Lucina, it's the same characters who are also in Fates.
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Punnyz posted...

I took a look at the DLC

jesus christ theres alot of it

25 Maps.

Quick Explaination of them:
Gold Pack: Golden Gaffe, EXPonential Growth, Infinite Regalia:
These 3 are Grinding/Resources Maps.
Golden Gaffe will break the game. Risen have Gold. Kill them. They don't attack [They do counter attack though]

EXPonential is garbage except for getting the ball rolling on units on LUNATIC(+). Anything below that, it's just not worth using.

Infinite Regalia gets you 3 A-rank "Timeless" Weapons (Or a Bolt Axe because fuck you that's why) (Or Wolfberg for Walhart) each time you run it. Because you need to outfit every sword user with Ragnells.

S1: Champions of Yore, Lost Bloodlines, Smash Bros, Rogues and Redeemers.
These get you more Einherjar, but the real trick is the second [for Lost Bloodlines and Smash Bros sets] and third map of each.
Lost Bloodlines 2 and Smash Bros 2 net you an item that lets a character reclass into Dread Fighter [Sword, Axe, Tome; Skills include Aggressor (+10 Attack on Player Phase) and +10 RES] and Bride [Lance, Bow, Staff; Skills include Bonds (Passive AoE Heal) and Rally Heart (+2 All Stats, +1 Movement Rally)] respectively.

The Third Map grants an item that gives a character a skill:
CoY3: All+2 [Exactly what it says on the tin. Increases all stats by 2. Which is pretty powerful actually. It's roughly 10 levels worth of stats]
LB3: Paragon [Doubles EXP gained. Note: This map also is the best map to grind EXP and Weapon Rank on]
SB3: Iote's Shield [Negates Flier Weakness]
RaR3: Limit Breaker [Increases Stat Caps by 10- which lets you, through more leveling, increase all stats by 10. Yes, it's as busted as it sounds.]

You can readily farm any of these maps, play it as often as you'd like.

S2:
Scrambles: Harvest, Summer, Hot Spring. Conversations Galore. Not much else to say. You can farm Seeds of Trust off them, but that isn't the point. These are just a fuck ton of conversations with various characters. Including some that don't talk otherwise [cross-generational, or just don't support]

The Future Past:
ALTERNATE ENDING. It's the same level as the Endgame map itself, so... don't go in if you're not ready for that.
Not much else to say, and can't without spoiling the hell out of things. Ware the boss. ??? is kinda tragic.

Challenge set:
Again kinda exactly what it says on the tin. These are all post-game maps. Endgame or later.
4 maps with unique conditions:
Death's Embrace - Can you survive at 1 HP? This map knocks all units down to 1 HP.
Five Anna Firefight - Air Power is the only way now. 5 Merchant Defense Map. Oh, the ground is chopped up by lava and there's damage tiles.
Roster Rescue - Big enemies, moving walls.

Apotheosis - ...Extremely powerful Foes. Stats soar into the 70s, average trash in this map is as tough as Lunatic final Boss. Lunatic+ Skills are here on Normal [It ignores your actual difficulty]. This map... it's the MinMax map. You'll have extreme difficulty if you don't strategize for it, unless you have the other DLC and utilize the hell out of it [ahem, Limit Breaker] (That video I posted earlier is a clear of this map)
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Waluigi1 posted...

What's the spoiler scene the happens different if you marry lucina?

Chapter 21 finale.
Heavy Spoiler.

Right after Validar forces Robin to steal the Fire Emblem from Chrom, Lucina figures out it was Robin who killed her father, (hence the Premonition scene) and attempts to kill Robin over it. If you married her, you get this scene where Lucina ultimately winds up breaking down and thinking for herself for once and deciding that her husband's life matters more than the risk to her father/the entire world since you know, that whole Grima thing. It's more poignant since her entire character arc is centered on the idea that she matters, that she belongs, and she can put herself first. It's touched on in her Hot Spring Scramble conversation with Robin if they're married as well, where she says she can't put him first if it's her duty or him... then when faced with just that, she does.

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Heroic Bigpun posted...

So but like

Sully is stronger than Maribelle

So logically sullys chrom baby can do that too and even more

Incorrect, because it's not just stats.
Classes are really what matters.

Also that was magic. Yes, Magic. Lucina reclassed to Sage.
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

I don't think I'm watching that

It's just the hardest map in the game getting punched in.
Said map has 0 story to it. It's literally "you're powerful so come fight these powerful foes. Oh, you're REALLY Strong, fight even stronger foes".

Every enemy on that map is as strong as or [fairly often] stronger than the final boss on Lunatic. It doesn't give a flying fuck about difficulty mode either. Normal and Lunatic+ both have the same experience on that map [save for 3 inconsequential dudes, whom in fact due to an AI quirk are more dangerous on Normal than on Lunatic]
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

MIRIEL GETS A HORSEY

aw crap lvl e sword

Any new weapon will be e-rank hell.

Donnel gets the worst of it, because he goes from an outright bad Lance class to none of his reclasses and possible paths have lances at all.
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On the subject of Anna... there's this Anna.

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Mewtwo59 posted...

You should be able to get an unlimited amount of them at some point, so don't worry too much about using them.

Chapter 12 for Master Seals.

Chapter 16 or Nah/Severa's Paralogues for Second Seals. Either way you have to do the same amount of maps in each case. Nah's Paralogue is slightly easier to pull off since you can recruit Nah and kill the boss from your spawn location.
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Punnyz posted...

I say that as a broad statement because I haven't met every unit yet. Maybe theres a few more left!

Judging by what you've said, just Olivia and Cherche in the main pool for who Donnel can get with.

Anyone after C13 is not in the main pool of units. They're either Robin-onlies, or Second Gens.
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Punnyz posted...

OH WOW, Nowi can hook up with Donnel

ya see guys

This is what I'm thinkin

I'm picturing what would be the funniest wife Donnel can bring come from war back to the countryside to meet his Ma

a Giant buff\tough chick?

A Dark Mage?

And now THIS
A loli dragon

I think that might win

Going by those descriptions you landed him on the "Triangle". That is a win. [If you mean by buff/tough chick, Sully. Flavia and Kjelle cannot get with Donnel.]
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DeathChicken posted...

Donnel is great from both a minmax standpoint and just from being some goober out there with a bunch of fantasy soldiers

He's actually really bad from a minmax standpoint.
He's good as a father- particularly for Kjelle (Sully's kid), since he passes Galeforce (Kjelle has Luna and Astra which means Donnel!Kjelle has all things she needs with the addition of Galeforce; Donnel doesn't pass any actives. [Meanwhile Gaius is best for Tharja: Galeforce and Astra complimenting Innate Luna]) but not as a unit.
He's awful as a unit. One of, if not the worst in the game. Starts incredibly weak, hard to train on higher difficulties, and even with Aptitude, doesn't grow as much as people make him out to. [Apti is 1 stat point every 5 levels. Not a whole lot. And certainly not enough to make up for his awful start.] Yes, he can be fed and snowball, but so can anyone else. You don't have to go through half the trouble to raise a different unit, getting nearly the same gains with the amount of resources.
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Punnyz posted...

I just feel like

Robin gettin with the kids is fuckin creepy

It's really not.
Time Travel of the Everett Type, mate.
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Punnyz posted...

I just thought it'd be funny if Lucina hooked up with Donnel. The ultimate warrior of destiny gets with some redneck fucker

I bring up Donnel alot, but I'm just tryin to make sure my mans gets his

Yeah, that's not happening.

Punnyz posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

Punnyz posted...

I don't ...know ....what..yall are talkin about

Olivia or Gen 2?

The generation stuff

You can pair off characters and you'll get their children from side missions.
They are pretty damn powerful, having all the classes their parents had together, now as one unit. They also have higher stat caps [based on their parents] and great bases for their level [which is 10, BTW].

However, they are a separate support group, and their supports do not result in further child units.

The exception that is if a Gen 2 unit marries Robin. This still nets Robin's child, Morgan. 3rd Gen Morgan will get all of the benefits of the Gen 2 parent mod, base, and growth wise, but thanks to Robin's class-set will not gain further skills-- however Lucina though will pass on Aether [which is Skl/2 for Sol then Luna. It's the strongest activation in the game.] to Morgan. (Note other "Special Skills": Chrom -> Rightful King; Walhart -> Conquest; Aversa -> Shadowgift)
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Punnyz posted...

I don't ...know ....what..yall are talkin about

Olivia or Gen 2?
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You can't have Chrom marry Olivia if he has any Supports [they can be unlocked not viewed and you're fine] with any of the others. If he does, they either need to be married off beforehand or you're SOL. Note: Killing them off on Classic doesn't work, because women in Awakening are immortal. But if you don't and she becomes eligible [2 battles paired up or 3 dances], she's highest priority.

Punnyz posted...

Can Lucina hook up with anybody or just Robin again

Lucina is second gen. She won't have a kid except with Robin, but can be paired with other gen 2 units.
You won't get the altered story bit unless she's with Robin [obviously].
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Punnyz posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

That's legit the worst thing you can do from a gameplay aspect. You screw over two kids.

even worse than Tharja?

Let's just say this, there's one skill to rule them all.
Galeforce.

Basically a unit that has it, gets the ability to do a full action after they kill something, like they got Danced. Not exactly hard to discern that "double turns" is powerful.

Chrom/Sully locks both Lucina and Kjelle out of Galeforce.
Both of them can get this skill via other options.
In fact, the only way Lucina's locked out is through Sully as her mother [or Maiden, but Maiden... largely isn't a thing]

So, from that standpoint, it's literally the worst thing you can do, because Galeforce is worth it.

From the standpoint of Tharja's a fucking godawful character who lacks redeeming features, no.
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Punnyz posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

if you don't fuck up Chrom's marriage by having him get with Sully

*was probably gonna do this*

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Quickly, and hastily don't.

That's legit the worst thing you can do from a gameplay aspect. You screw over two kids.
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Punnyz posted...

I didn't even know you could get with Lucina

and TIKI is in the game?

Yep to both.

Lucina's a great option for both ends of the spectrum- story and gameplay: the former, a marriage to her changes a scene after chapter 21 and if you're following it, and do the DLC map "Hot Spring Scramble" after marrying her, before C21, she gets a ton of character development; the latter, if you don't fuck up Chrom's marriage by having him get with Sully, she perfectly meets what Robin wants as a gameplay wife, while giving Robin's kid Aether, which is a very powerful skill, partticuarly when paired alongside Luna.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Behold the FE min-maxer in their natural environment.

Gets shit done.
Even excluding the min-max, there's a LOT better than Tharja.

Lucina's the best-of-both-worlds option (Note: Marrying her completely changes a scene later in the game), but if you need crazy hot bod, TIKI [or hell, Tharja's daughter] and that's just an iceberg tip.
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Punnyz posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

You're only going to be disappointed in her.
She's a +SKL/-HP FRobin who starts in Knight and can't support.

STOP BASHIN MAH WAIFUS

Awakening Neph is the bashing of Neph.

Want Neph, play PoR, RD, or Heroes.
That glowing blob they call Nephenee is an insult.

Tharja though, is just trash. There's so much better.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

Punnyz posted...

I'll be DAMNED if you think I'm just gonna let you sit there and badmouth my goth GF

Gameplay, she sucks. No Galeforce? Go home.

Well she still gets Nosferatu, which means she isn't entirely useless.

Nosferatu Spam is Robin's sole domain.
It works by snowball, and anyone else doing it hurts the snowball.
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Punnyz posted...

Airship_Canon posted...

Punnyz posted...

so I can dl anything I want?

All of these weapons and characters?

How the Online works:
Anything from the wireless Menu is free and and just requires you connect once to get.

The Items can only be withdrawn once.
The Maps can only be activated once. [Can't be played until the endgame]
The Characters... they summon what amounts to another player- You can recruit, fight, or buy from these, and can it can happen as many times as you want. Recruited Spotpass Characters cannot support and are bad as a result.

Proper DLC is in the Outrealm Gate.

Its just I Saw Nephenee AND OH MY GOD I MUST HAVE HER

You're only going to be disappointed in her.
She's a +SKL/-HP FRobin who starts in Knight and can't support.
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Punnyz posted...

so I can dl anything I want?

All of these weapons and characters?

How the Online works:
Anything from the wireless Menu is free and and just requires you connect once to get.

The Items can only be withdrawn once.
The Maps can only be activated once. [Can't be played until the endgame]
The Characters... they summon what amounts to another player- You can recruit, fight, or buy from these, and can it can happen as many times as you want. Recruited Spotpass Characters cannot support and are bad as a result.

Proper DLC is in the Outrealm Gate.
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Punnyz posted...

I'll be DAMNED if you think I'm just gonna let you sit there and badmouth my goth GF

Crazy, Stalker, Abusive Mother.

Look, mate, she's like Ryago level bad, and is Awakening's Lifis.

Gameplay, she sucks. No Galeforce? Go home.

Xiahou Shake posted...

Best because let's be real no waifu compares.

If comparing for "worst", yeah.
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

So at the end of the battle they gave me a choice whether to save sis or Keep The Fire Emblem. I tried to save her but she sacrificed yourself and jumped off the cliff. I'm going to go ahead and assume this would have happened if I chose the other thing. Who knows what horrible things they're going to do to her body. It was a pretty crazy scene. I'm really sorry about your loss, chrom, but uh, I'm gonna go bone Tharja over there

Tharja's a terrible choice.
But, yeah.

Oh, this is a nice time to point out that there's 6 maps that you can unlock now, but can't do until after Chapter 25.

If you go to the Wireless Menu and then access the Bonus Box then go to Bonus Maps, you can unlock them.They're all a bit more difficult than the rest of the game [Excluding proper DLC]- especially the last one "The Radiant Hero".
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Punnyz posted...

okay, thanks to Smash bros, I know Lucina is related to marth

they said Chrom is descended from the Hero King

blue hair

same fighting style

"Learned it from my father"

2 Falchions

yea, its laid on pretty heavy, Lucina is Chrom's daughter

so I guess thats why theres a forced marriage with Chrom, huh?

It HAS to happen

well, with that said

I was wanting Chrom to get with Nowi to retroactively make Lucina part dragon. And For shits and giggles.

But they're not compatible

but its now that I'm noticing Chrom doesn't actually have alot of options

Meanwhile, Robin can fucking bed anyone he wants

Yeah, Chrom and Sumia have limited options... because the game isn't exactly subtle about them being a thing.
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SSBM_Guy posted...

If you're a promoted unit and you class change, you can automatically go to the promoted unit. Let's give Lissa as an example. She's a Cleric. When she promotes, she can become a War Cleric or a Sage. She can class change to a Pegasus Knight and a Pegasus Knight can promote to a Falcoknight or a Dark Flier. A Sage Lissa can class change to a War Cleric, a Falcoknight, a Dark Flier. She can also choose to go to Pegasus Knight, but I don't really see why.

You need to be Level 10 in that Promoted Class to do a Promoted Lateral Change.

If you second seal at Promoted 9, you can only go to base classes.

The reason you'd want to go down is to grab base class skills.

Note, for Dancer, Manakete, Dread Fighter, Bride, etc., to do a promoted lateral, they have to reach L30, which is what L10 Promoted is.
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Punnyz posted...

and when you class change, with the second seal, you start over on lvl 1

if they're promoted and class change, they get prepromoted so you REALLy start over

5 and 15 on promoted units is where they get their abilities

hmmm

if you know what you're doing, you can totally minmax this and start promoting and class changing at specific times to not waste as much time and exp

buuuuuuuuuut I don't know what I'm doing

I guess I'll just stick to waiting til lvl 20 before promoting

You can go sideways or down with Second Seals.
Up with Master Seals

At L10+ Promoted, you can go sideways with promoted units via Second Seal. [E.G. L10 Paladin can become an L1 Great Knight]

There's some slightly confuddling math behind second seals, but for their use, use them early as possible, but only on an Even Level.

Any stats you gain from gaining Levels are not lost ever- though, if you go from one class to another and the cap is exceeded in doing so, you lose access to some of those stats, and cannot gain any more in that case. I.E. If you have 36 STR and go to a class that has a cap of 30 STR, you "lose" 6 STR, but if you second seal or master seal to a class that has 40 STR cap, you gain those 6 points back.

The "personal stats" [Stats from CHARACTER base, not class and stats gained from Leveling (not promoting)] are also used for determining second gen character Base Stats- which is with the following:

(Parent A + Parent B + Child Base [fixed])/3

So if you paired Chrom with Sumia, and Chrom's gained 18 STR above his class base, and Sumia's gained 15 above hers, Lucina would gain ~11 Str to her base when she joins.
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DeathChicken posted...

I think exactly one character Anna is missable (well, she'll join but eventually she'll go 'It's been real but bye') if you do not have your main character marry her. She's pretty sick in a fight, for what that's worth

Nope, nope, and wrong.
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Kenri posted...

None of this is, like, unique for a localization of an FE game though. I'd agree that some of them are bad decisions but they're also relatively minor. Hardly a reason to say it's a bad translation unless you think Fire Emblem has literally never had a good one.

Compared to any other translation in the series history, Fates was INCREDIBLY heavy handed. And those are negative.

They cut content, they radically altered characters [Effie as a huge example; Soleil's another- since they altered her character it opens up dumb questions as why she's not a lesbian option (Since, hint, she's straight in Japan)] and character interactions (Ahem the "...." support, which was an actual conversation in the Japanese).

Compare that against Awakening, which had, at its worst, a mild alteration of Henry.

Only truly comparable bad translation was PoR which is more for cut content [Maniac Mode, which'd contrary to "It's a bad difficulty" statement, be reused in the same exact fashion [stat slam] as Lunatic in Shadow Dragon, New Mystery, Awakening, and Fates.]

This isn't "oh hey we added memes" or resaid things in a way that makes sense. No, they did full rewrites. Which is shit.
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Laugh at them and flaunt the splurging that I can do and that they can't cause they're getting scammed.
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Where's the Tony Stark IRL option?
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Grand Kirby posted...

I mean, if you have to argue whether or not it even manages to count as a dungeon then that's a good sign it's a terrible dungeon.

Well, if it's not a dungeon, it's not a terrible dungeon since it's not a dungeon at all.

And let's be honest, the Death Sta-- I mean Bahamut is not a dungeon. It's a Cutscene area and a Boss Arena.
It's like the Tower of Salvation entrance in Symphonia. It's Not a Dungeon- it's just an area where cutscenes happen and Bosses are fought.
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Well, Half Life 3 will come out before FFVII Remake.
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Weakupedia posted...

this is a weird thing to focus on i feel like

It's just a note.

Stormblood does the Asian thing way better than WoW did, just like anything that XIV does that WoW did, XIV does better. Except PvP but lolPvP.
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