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kevwaffles posted...

As someone who was not sold on this being winning strategy, particularly before it happened, past poor performance in a presidential bid is indicative of absolutely nothing. Besides Obama, the last president who didn't fumble a previous primary I think was Carter.

She was put into the ground by a fuckin welterweight man. Its not like she ran and simply didnt gain traction like Jay Inslee. She ran and got humiliated due to her exceptionally poor skills as a campaigner.

She ran for veep at a time where basically no campaigning was needed (and if not for a fly completely stealing the show, her poor performance vs pence wouldve been more of a thing) so its not like that helped.

There is basically no evidence to suggest she can pull this off other than "yay she isnt 80 years old"

Yesmar_ posted...

My hot take is that the read that this plays into "Dems in Disarray" is completely wrong. If anything it's the opposite. The stereotype is that Dems are wishy-washy wimps that can't make a decision, but to most people this is going to read as Dems making a decisive, ballsy decision. And it's a decision that poll after poll after poll has shown that the vast majority of voters *wanted* Democrats to make. Kamala Harris might end up being an awful nominee, so it might have been a mistake on that level, but on a narrative/momentum level, I don't see how this doesn't benefit Democrats.

Because youre giving up the advantage of incumbency in favor of someone who was so bad at running for president that Tulsi Gabbard put her into the ground.

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Lopen posted...

Dems want Trump to win too

Pelosi wants to flip her Nvidia calls to Puts

Id call this crazy but the only alternative is incompetence on a scale i dont feel comfortable casually saying exists.

Im just relieved it finally went somewhere

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