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Come at me, Blade. Let's fight.

Blade as town here should always vote Ulti before me. Every single theory on me depends on Ulti being scum.

Yet he doesn't. Yet he votes me for what he says is fourth time, but it is third.

Ulti gave you 3P Ben on a scan, how is that ever scum lmao. How is Ulti and me still a proposed team, the no vote thing happened once while he was blocked abs multiple times since then.

Wanna confirm?

##vote: Blade

##unvote

I really did tag out yesterday, at least I thought so.

Blade, is your reasoning for IGCD guilty scan that Ulti is faking it? Because in thst case your vote is very misplaced lmao.

UltimaterializerX posted...

He doesnt suck at mafia. Hes scum. Town Blade absolutely never acts bad enough to ever call me scum this game.

Read his posts today as caught scum playing to his only out (mislynching me) and it makes sense. The impasse loop has had him trapped for days now. As far as Im concerned everything from him/God is WIFOM from this point forward.

I know, I'm just throwing darts because he said similar things yesterday.

Why not? Why couldn't Ulti be shot at suddenly? Was that not what you said?

Meow1000 posted...

You were blocked sending the kill.

Sure buddy, let's get you to bed.

Why does IGCD scan guilty?

It's also not fourth but let's ignore that.

Like you can't ignore Kirby's actions so blatantly for two nights then jump on it so heavily today, it's BS.

Blade sucks at mafia imo.

Second day in a row he is blatantly ignoring a guilty scan to vote an innocent scan.

You reading the game today, buddy?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Scans innocent but admittedly scans guilty after having been scanned, right.

I was scanned three nights before I said I had a way to do that buddy. You did now.

Guess kills were one instance where I should have setup meta'd

If Kirby is Lopen's role, well, he can roleblock on his own.

I would vote IGCD but everyone to check in and all that.

I can forgive you but in my defense

how many of those nights had the most plausible outcome like.

Meow1000 posted...

Chang, if scum, was forced to shoot at Ulti again and hope he died this time. I saved Ulti immediately.

He suddenly appeared in Ulti's POE on day 6.

Yeah Ulti would have been my guess if I couldn't gues no kill too.

But let's see the scan I suppose.

Also I am kinda drunk and out and anticipated DTC because I bet my life.

Man on every official record I finally bet correctly. It really happened.

I will attempt my own life again tonight if allowed to live btw. It was truly the best call.

This is suspiciously many nights anyway.

I prewrote that and no one actually died.

Kirby, you owe me a beer.

I thought with the extra player last night that I would bet my life. Remove myself as a mislynch option. That would end the game with 6 players left but not as an extra kill. Thst would give town another chance. I bet on no kill naturally. Because in that case, even if I was right, I could shoot the next most likely mislynch option and town would have a chance to make things right. It was a good plan, I stand by that.

What happened? I was roleblocked. No bet was allowed made. I can vote but at what cost. The player who said they would give me a chance to prove myself, but not on the night where it made the most sense.

When I wrote all those end game thoughts yesterday it was truly because I thought I could not say them today. I planned this at the time, but the one thing that could prevent both my death and a shot happened.

Stuttgart has had an absolutely amazingly impressive season that is being very overlooked because of Leverkusen.

Leverkusen went the whole league unbeaten, which has never happened before in the Bundesliga.

Bayern somehow managed to bottle second place as well. This means that even if Leverkusen complete the double, they won't get to play in the Super Cup.

Charizard/Garchomp
Gallade/Absol
Pyroar/Shinx
Stufful/Muk

Midnight being whatever end time is for the rest of you

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Kirby or Chang pls put day out of it's misery, we're clearly stalled and as much as I love digging through old topics to find hidden morsels I really don't want to atm lol

As long as it's before midnight it doesn't really matter.

Yeah we're not getting a new day up in 7 hours most likely anyway, but no reason to have this run for 48.

When is the last time we had 18 topics

That reminds me I kinda want to have a vote down today when I finally can.

##vote: Ben

That's still -2 so people can still get thoughts down. I have said what I wanted to.

IGCD did clarify that when I asked him why MI was not even in top 4, but it was in a topic we had moved on from, so I initially missed it.

Break given. It was just presented as being much more of a given you could do it that I thought was reasonable lol.

Just to clarify on the confidence on Ulti.

The redirect on me and red is plenty, you would have to believe FD deliberately lied about where he sent it and it doesn't seem that way at all. Even that aside, with this Ben flip, you would have to believe some insane conspiracies to make it fit. This includes Lopen being exactly cop, Ulti throwing Ben under the bus this late instead of innocent scanning someone, or if Ben is 3rd party Ulti having a way to gues that Ben could scan scum. All the things added together, I stand by my initial statement of how he can be scum lol.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Kirby can be scum if scum decided to bus might 2 and has another roleblocker or simply a backup. At this point this isn't the biggest stretch. Kirby has been very insistent on Ben being town and being able to read him despite not that great a recent history with it. Perhaps scum felt they needed a big gambit day 2 to win.

I want to add some thoughts to this. It would also mean they n1 either no killed to pull off the gamble or shot at MI. The latter in itself would not be that unlikely at the time but that would make how Kirby destroyed Wallz a bit less likely to be planned ahead. Also if it's Kirby, he probably blocks Blade earlier to get rid of Ulti, so I think it's quite unlikely to be him. It's complicated enough that one of the other answers seem simpler.

I really hope you will consider all these thoughts overnight and going into tomorrow.

We lynch Ben around the 24 hour mark.

If Ben flips 3rd party as he said, well, you can't use him to find the rest. In that case you still need to find two, so consider who can be paired. I would say it has to be Chang/Kirby or IGCD/Blade or FD+anyone that isn't IGCD really. I doubt it is FD though just based on how he has been.

If anyone is pure godfather, it can really only be Blade. Everyone else there has powers that are confirmed to exist to some degree. They would have to be godfather something. Blade could use Lopens role and no kill.

If Ulti gets a guilty scan you just kill them and can wait another day considering the partner.

Going through the players. This is where I would start tomorrow, with the possibility of having another flip of course.

Ben is confirmed scum

Blade and IGCD are confirmed town unless you believe scum would deliberately no kill or shoot at Death N5. If you really wanna believe this: ig IGCD is scum, Blade must be too, or they have no reason to no kill night 5. It is protection you want to look good by doing that. Blade could do the gambit without IGCd still but keep in mind ge has an innocent scan, so he is godfather if scum.

Chang can be scum if you believe that his power can possibly be scum.

Kirby can be scum if scum decided to bus might 2 and has another roleblocker or simply a backup. At this point this isn't the biggest stretch. Kirby has been very insistent on Ben being town and being able to read him despite not that great a recent history with it. Perhaps scum felt they needed a big gambit day 2 to win.

FD can be scum if scum somehow has a pineapple vendor that apparently fits really well with the flavor.

Ulti can be scum if he goes back in time to before he gets the pm that says he is town and gets the hosts to reroll.

With another scum flip today, maybe try to reread using Ben, but he is a tricky one, keep that in mind. Might also just be smart to look and Knightz and Wallz again with another piece of the puzzle at hand.

I think going forward after lynching Ben today, it's important to look back with a new scum flip. If you try to go by poe, make sure what you have left in it fits.

Ulti's analysis today falls apart for example. First and foremost his math is wrong though alone doesn't break it. But look at what he is saying. I must be masquerading as Lopen he said and insisted. That doesn't make sense because the vote loss was confirmed on four days, so some of it should be true. On top of that I am also scanend innocent aside from that. While these things don't confirm me town, there is a solid hole in the theory he is ignoring, but he believes it has to be me and chang and isn't really considering if that makes sense or not. If this happens with your poe, reevaluate, you must have overlooked something getting there, so don't just brute force something that doesn't make sense. MI was wrong, but his theory was complete.

Or maybe a scan can help, that's easier.

Blade has ended every day voting town except voting Wallz day 1. Day 2 doesn't count because of Chang.

That's four times. Even if you guys don't know my flip yet, the other three are confirmed by their death. He also defended Knightz day 1 and now calls him worst scum ever. The whining literally has nothing to justify it or back it up, it's just ridiculous and a complete lack of ability to look at oneself.

He may do that as town what do I know, it just provoked me.

If it's only those two then they no killed twice!

Based on play I would go Blade but yeah.

Lightning Dodge isn't that bad with no encounters imo. I don't think it stands that much out in the grand scheme of FF minigames.

Blitzball bomb would be the right FFX rep.

If Ben is simply scum I would guess there is only one left after him based on that, but it's not a hard read.

Interestingly Ben spent a a little bit of time asking me I was 3rd party when he neighbored me.

I say we end day after about 24 hours, I doubt we could get day up faster than that anyway.

There is no hammer at 4, we are 8 left, scum would literally lose by doing that.

I'm not sure what would piss me off more, Blade being that arrogant and douchy as town or faking it as scum. Both are trash tier plays at least.

You don't come in ignoring a guilty scan on a player that himself confirmed to scan guilty and being not town and then talk about towns being bad ever.

Yet another role that can mess with cop, I would say probably means no standard godfather. A point in Blade's favor.

Well thanks, but I meant that... would me having Lopen's role not make it a town role?

I thought community was a fun sitcom, why do the characters have evil versions anyway lol.

I may be wasting my time but

Ulti you do realize on this page that you are both saying I am using Lopen's role and calling it the most obvious scum role ever

PunishedBen posted...

"though"

Oh yeah, okay, what the hell did you pick for Kirby