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TopicFriends Mafia Topic 4 - The One Without Banana-Hammock
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:22:37 PM
#27
##Unvote

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 4 - The One Without Banana-Hammock
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:20:31 PM
#25
I like how death was talking with Lopen. I am not interested in lynching him today.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 4 - The One Without Banana-Hammock
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:05:05 PM
#11
And yeah Lopen and Kirby don't have host confirmation that I'm town. I haven't held anything back but they don't have 100% confirmation of that. You can think I'm 3p all you want, hopefully it convinces scum not to kill the best tree hydra that b8 has ever seen

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 4 - The One Without Banana-Hammock
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:01:55 PM
#9
I did tell you the benefits of the little lie about me being limited to Kirby. It didn't actually change my role at all, just my possibilities.

Death was also asking for my flavor and i was playing hard to get for a while. I got tired of that and wanted to give him what he asked for before bedtime.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 4 - The One Without Banana-Hammock
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 8:24:33 PM
#4
EDumey posted...
That's why I'm stressing it's not just one thing.
Sorry, i didn't mean to shit in your bed about your reads. I don't agree that their alignments are different like you do but i haven't paid as close attention to Corrik as you have been. I'm open to your insights, and me pushing back is to try to help me understand where you're coming from.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 8:06:35 PM
#449
I definitely think that's a mountain from a molehill. I took that comment as "one piece of evidence to suggest foolmo is town" not "foolmo is guaranteed town"

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 8:03:20 PM
#447
...oh

Well that shows you how much i remember the specifics of what Corrik has said i guess

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 7:58:55 PM
#444
EDumey posted...
It's actually the exact opposite. The thing that's sussing me on Corrik is that he came in and said Foolmo WASN'T town, which I think is a "told you so" play for later.
In that case wouldn't that mean they're both scum to you? How would he tell us so otherwise?

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 7:48:16 PM
#438
EDumey posted...
What? Where has Corrik argued with anyone? I don't think you read my post about Corrik at all.
I took your post as you saying they can't be together because one has pushed against the other. I was referring to past scum corrik games.

But you're right that corrik has been mostly a non factor so far and hasn't done much arguing in any direction.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 7:40:43 PM
#433
Lopen posted...
REMEMBER THIS POST???
Bro foolmo has called attention to it a half dozen times, how could we possibly forget

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 7:39:30 PM
#431
EDumey posted...
Kind of hard right now because Corrik and Foolmo are two of my top suspects, but if Corrik is scum, then I kind of think Foolmo might be town.
I think Corrik is probably town but not for this bad reasoning at all.

Scum Corrik has no qualms about publicly arguing with mates and pushing the friends out of them. And he enjoys the thrill of being bussed right back.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 6:11:36 PM
#409
EDumey posted...
Okay in a roundabout way you were the catalyst, but that wasn't your intent, lol.
It absolutely was. Go back to the post where i said i told Kirby (actually spectator chat, truthfully) that my plan all along was to try to test Sultan.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 6:06:38 PM
#406
EDumey posted...
Peaf didn't kill Sultan. He was the other lynch leader. So the question would be would Peaf let his Godfather die instead of him? And the potential answer to that is that if he thinks town will let him live forever because of "town confirmed" that it might have been something they coin flipped on?
I am going to argue that i indirectly did. The way he took his vote off of Blade is what ended up burying him, and he was on Blade to begin with because of me.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 6:03:11 PM
#405
wallmasterz posted...
Oh ninjad by 22 seconds.

Yeah Im still probably on team kill peaf with fire now, unfortunately
You would do that to hero Kirby??? So cruel, Wallz

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 6:01:40 PM
#402
I wanted to keep a surprise hidden and expectations low.

For the record, I'm David. Ctes spent most of the role pm correcting the show on their geography.
Idk why my flavor mentions Daryl Hannah or who that is.

PunishedBen posted...
What about his interaction with Sultan at the beginning of the game in regards to pointing out Sultan's flavor slip? That's the biggest thing I think he's town for.
Feels to me like something only a scum mate would make that argument on. But a lot of it got overshadowed by the sbell interactions and i am having trouble parsing Dumey's flavor stuff apart.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 5:18:01 PM
#365
If anybody can help us, it's Lopen.

So yeah i can summon in any spectator, just not the same one on consecutive days. Sorry for the lies.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 5:09:43 PM
#363
htaeD posted...
God this game could use a Lopen


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~Peaf~
TopicAfter 3.5 years and 1.3 million words, the story I've been writing is finished.
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 5:09:32 PM
#4
That's a huge milestone. Well done!

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:50:28 PM
#351
Oh no scum went through all that hassle of killing Blade when he was making himself look plenty bad enough to be a mislynch just to make poor foolmo look bad since he said he'd kill Blade if he were scum
/s

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:46:48 PM
#348
foolm0r0n posted...
Reads time

TOWN LEAN
3. Chang - Good reads that feel like trying to solve, not adding friction to the day.
4. Corrik - I feel like Corrik wouldn't drop his "see you D2" act so casually as scum.
6. Dumey - He's been attacking a wide variety of people each a little bit to generate content, which is risky as scum. It implies some confidence in his role.
13. Wallz - Similar to Chang.

SCUM LEAN
5. Death - Gut feeling, seems like typical low-radar scum D1 play.
8. IGCD - 1st post miller claim, still no activity (which seems genuine). If he's not actually anti-town, he's at least effectively anti-town at this point.
10. Peaf - Needing Sultan's help to vote Blade is so weird, after having voted Sultan in the first place. He has been overly tethered to Sultan, and neither seem bothered by it.
11. SBell - The inverse of Dumey. Loud and fast tunneling to generate content. It's a good way to smokescreen lack of activity later. Knows for sure Dumey is scum but is unbothered by all the non-Dumey votes going around.
12. Sultan - A far less convicted version of Dumey/Sbell's content-generation, which is a bit sus, but working with Peaf so closely is the most sus.

NULL
1. Ben - Seems fine, contributing normally. Also brought up the flavor discussion again this topic, which was suspiciously abandoned by everyone involved. If Sbell/Dumey are
2. Blade - This dude will never give a good tell D1. This makes him very dangerous. If I were scum I'd kill him immediately.
7. Foolmo - Like Blade, won't give tells early. Probably the best N1 kill if Blade is scum.
9. MZero - Has he even posted?

Still the only person I would actually agree to kill today is IGCD.


What relevance does this have today? How is this mathematical?

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:44:27 PM
#346
If there are 3 scum remaining and they all jump on you to hammer right now (assuming you are not scum), when they are 3 vs 8, then i will laugh.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:42:59 PM
#345
^what Dumey said

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~Peaf~
Topicwhich kind of video game is better
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:37:04 PM
#9
Oracle of ages had a tree that would get banned on gfax for being too horny

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:34:49 PM
#339
On d1 i told Kirby i thought Sultan was scummier than Blade but it would really be clearer after he gets off the blade vote. Obviously i was wrong about them being mates but my goal there was to pressure Blade while testing Sultan.

Here i just think foolmo is scum.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 3:27:33 PM
#335
##Unvote
##Vote: foolmo

Unofficial votals

[3] foolmo - (IGCD), Corrik, Sbell, peaf
[1] IGCD - foolmo
[0] death - (peaf), (IGCD)

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:58:00 PM
#319
I think the "most of the time" is the key bit there, Sbell

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:57:09 PM
#317
EDumey posted...
But I don't know if that makes him scum.
It reads as fake content to me, a way to be here and not giving organic reads. A veil, if you will.


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~Peaf~
Topicwhich kind of video game is better
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:46:04 PM
#5
Big tree is big good

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:44:46 PM
#309
Obellisk posted...
foolmo, as scum, is avoiding playing mafia and sticking to creating mathematical equations to explain away why he is pushing lynches that will never flip scum.
Yeah i have gotten the impression that he's playing a far more clinical game on "policy" and "theory" than actually looking at the players in front of him.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:43:29 PM
#308
foolm0r0n posted...
1 townie getting confirmed shouldn't lead to your godfather getting lynched lol.
I find this very interesting because my power was confirmed, sure, but before the sultan lynch (and technically even still) it could easily be argued that there's no guarantee I'm town. What makes you think that Kirby saying he's there because of me when i wasn't here to dispute you means I'm confirmed town?

foolm0r0n posted...
Hmm great point. He started at 2.367 at -35 mins right when Sultan was gaining steam. It's the only attempt to defend Sultan that I can see.
I really dislike this. You came in today with fire for igcd, Sbell, and sort of death. You made a comment about what you think scum would try to do at eod1, and i suggested an event that matched that criteria. You say good point, and move on. Dumey isn't in your crosshairs at all. You make no conclusions on it. For example, if there was truly no scum trying to play defense for Sultan, who in the game do you think would be most averse to that style of play? Is it possibly because they weren't online when Sultan was getting heat? No, you didn't actually think about it beyond the first step.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:16:30 PM
#297
It could be a bus from igcd but i don't see scum igcd pulling that double voter gambit. My impression of him is that he's way more willing to do that kind of stunt as town to get reactions and vibes

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:13:27 PM
#293
wallmasterz posted...
To say nothing of grammar
I'm dead

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 2:11:27 PM
#291
I came into today most suspicious of death and dumey. I do think Dumey is blatant enough to defend Sultan as his mate, and smart and skillful enough to be able to pass it off if it goes south.

I find myself really disliking foolmo today, though. I could join you on him.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 1:19:56 PM
#279
I've never clicked a single YouTube video posted in a mafia game, except for chang's incredible speech in community.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 1:17:46 PM
#274
Obellisk posted...
unless he's Joey and only has 1 character and isn't part of the scum team yet... like Han was in my Star Trek game.
But then the logic of "he has been exposed to players with two characters of flavor" falls apart lol

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 1:17:06 PM
#271
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Yes but if he is scum he knows I'm not phoebe
He's crafty enough to deliberately include that in there to throw us off his scent

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 1:11:21 PM
#264
I don't think it's a point in his favor. I think that the idea of characters being paired at all to begin with comes from a scum starting point.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 12:10:28 PM
#255
MZero posted...
death is probably town imo
Please elaborate

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:59:48 AM
#240
A slip in that a known scum has a double character flavor.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:53:59 AM
#237
wallmasterz posted...
I ask because of your recent convo with Sbell

death why did you assume two characters for miller claim IGCD - sbell
he was more than just a regular miller claim by then - death
ok fair - sbell

Im trying not to be paranoid but I find it weird now that we know at least some of scum is two characters. Maybe I just suck at flavor meta and everyone who spoke out about cracking the code is innocent little lambs
I agree. It smells very fishy and like an accidental slip.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:30:01 AM
#227
EDumey posted...
Very little incentive for Scum Sultan to stir the pot with me when I was supporting him.
I can agree with this. In my n1 notes / stream of consciousness with Kirby i also had it listed as a weird interaction between you two. But you're right, there's a good town case for you with it too.

EDumey posted...
lmao I was actually a little more aggressive with my wording in that post originally, but thought about it a little more that I REALLY didn't want to relitigate the Miller talk a fourth time in the day, and just wanted to work with you.
I thought it sounded edited! But that makes sense.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 10:04:23 AM
#217
EDumey posted...
It's only the fact that Kirby lied about the modkill thing to not attach himself to you that makes it suspicious.
He technically also lied about having no read on me. We were trying to keep it secret originally so as to avoid putting any sort of target on my back.

EDumey posted...
I feel like you would definitely use that info Kirby gave to go after me.
I considered it but knew I'd bungle it since flavor is far from my strong suit, and I'd already said in game that i know nothing about the flavor so i expected to get challenged on any argument i might make in that direction. Besides, i was getting a bit tunneled on the two now dead players.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:58:07 AM
#216
Ok so it was 5 hours earlier and before Sultan stumbled a lot lol.

Meow1000 posted...
Because it's Peaf's lack of vote that caught my attention.

I don't have any real read on you based on your own behavior. Though it's funny to see him lay groundwork for voting you again to keep you as a potential out.

I don't think you pair with him here given his behavior today.
2.120.

But i think you're being disingenuous if you honestly think that blade would use his veto on day 1.

Blade was instrumental in pointing out the gaps in Sultan's logic. But being right about the scum player who got lynched when there were 5 other players in the same boat? That's not special.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:48:33 AM
#213
htaeD posted...
He called out Sultans bad vote.
Granted he was a little late to the party. But Blade being right at all is nice.
(I kid Blade, I kid)
That's my point exactly. He was correct about Sultan at the end of the day but didn't vote him, and even with an hour or so to go he said something along the lines of "I'm neutral on Sultan." I don't remember him giving any other specific scum reads, except that me and sultan aren't pushed.

So from my pov it looks like he was nowhere close to the money. My theory right now is that you are scum and you remember some other offhand comment he made against someone else on the team, and that's why you slipped that he was on the money.

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:45:38 AM
#211
Fourth question - Dumey, i can see why you thought i was hesitant to engage you d1 and we've talked before about how that was a major way you caught me as scum in dating mafia. I did try to engage you a little bit early on but it wasn't really doing anything for my reads on you. Kirby was fixated on flavor (as you saw when he came in) and i wasn't really able to engage him or vocalize his comments because the flavor talk is all way over my head. So since it wasn't getting me anywhere i kind of stopped bothering, especially since i thought i was cooking with Blade and sultan. No offense intended.

Why did you lash out about it at eod?

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:41:30 AM
#205
htaeD posted...
Honestly I also did not expect scum to kill Blade.
Docfear and Blade being on the money worked against him I guess.
... where was Blade on the money?

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:41:13 AM
#204
Obellisk posted...
Oh do you two have an active channel open?
I know you posted an explanation post but i dont wnt to go find it
Yeah. I told him there's no pressure to stay up to date with the game since he technically signed up to not play, and he's already done far more than i could have hoped for. And i can't summon him in anyway today.

Two more questions:
Death, why have you been holding off on requesting my flavor? It seemed to be a pretty big deal to you at eod1.
Foolmo, what was up with giving up nl and putting your vote on sbell at the end?

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:35:59 AM
#202
EDumey posted...
Post flip that he didn't double down on Town when given the opportunity? Sure. But the post Peaf is quoting was from D1.
I know you dislike results based analysis. Let's ignore that he didn't double down on confirmed town at that point in time. What do you make of him keeping Blade as an option in the same post where he voted Sultan? T2.362

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:30:11 AM
#200
htaeD posted...
Peaf can you give us some Kirby thoughts btw?
He thinks it was nice of scum to kill Blade and that post 33 from sbell was very funny

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~Peaf~
TopicFriends Mafia Topic 3 - The One Where The First Day Ends
PeaceFrog
06/14/24 9:24:21 AM
#196
Huh. I see.

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~Peaf~
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