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TopicGarbage overflowing in NYC due to vaccine mandates for city workers
TommyG663513
10/30/21 8:57:49 PM
#11
Bleuets posted...
how you gonna replace them? Dont see people lining up exactly to be garbage workers.

You don't exactly see people lining up for any jobs these days really

So yeah I don't exactly see an easy solution to this anytime soon.

Anti vaxxers cause problems and not having workers cause problems too. Just feels like a lose lose situation going on here.

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TopicGarbage overflowing in NYC due to vaccine mandates for city workers
TommyG663513
10/30/21 8:43:15 PM
#4
Yeah idk what the solution to all of this is. Of course, people need to get vaccinated. It seems like the mandates are pushing more people to get vaccinated, but not everybody and not enough people.

Booting these anti vaxxers from their jobs creates other problems that we do not at all have a solution to.

Idk, maybe with time these workers will be replaced or something.

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Topica reminder of what brie larson said that pissed people off
TommyG663513
10/30/21 8:37:49 PM
#28
AceMos posted...
its not hard to grasp people whine about things that dont fit how they grew up

a strait white man is not going to relate to a movie talking about racism

now thats not to say a strait white man cant enjoy said movie

but if that man is a reviewer and uses his life experience to down play the movies message

well there is a problem

Are these white men by and large giving diverse films bad reviews?

No they are not and Brie Larson used the one example of a diverse film that was reviewed poorly.

This kind of hinges on the idea that these white men are giving these films bad reviews when they are not.

Also, the academy did become significantly more diverse in life of the #oscarssowhite stuff years ago.

You used Green Book winning as an example of the Oscars supporting a racist movie yet that was bookended with Moonlight and Parasite both winning Oscars for BP. Weird how you ignore those two and cherry pick Green Book which tbf yeah that movie sucked.

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Topica reminder of what brie larson said that pissed people off
TommyG663513
10/30/21 7:59:17 PM
#21
AceMos posted...
ok lets break this down to its most basic level

how many of you say "cringe" when a teen character speaks like a gen Z and call something bad for that

ok

now how many of you loved the 87 ninja turtles

now tell me the difference in dialog

there is none

TF point are you even trying to make?

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 7:52:53 PM
#314
Anyone who thinks transphobic is a neutral term doesn't deserve to be treated in any way seriously

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Topica reminder of what brie larson said that pissed people off
TommyG663513
10/30/21 7:47:19 PM
#17
AceMos posted...
congrats you missed her point entirely

Sweet. Care to explain what it was?

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Topica reminder of what brie larson said that pissed people off
TommyG663513
10/30/21 7:44:44 PM
#15
AceMos posted...
oh how is what she said stupid

White men don't hate diversity. In fact, these same critics she criticized have given great reviews to TONS of different diverse films. A Wrinkle in Time just wasn't one of those.

These guys are film critics. They tend to lean pretty hard to the left. They're generally gonna be pro diversity.

Also, films are made for everyone. Telling a white guy that a film wasn't made for him is just wrong

The best thing you could say about Brie Larson's words is that they were well intentioned, but delivered in a very clumsy way.


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Topica reminder of what brie larson said that pissed people off
TommyG663513
10/30/21 7:33:29 PM
#5
Yeah everyone knows that what she said was stupid

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/30/21 6:46:08 PM
#131
goldenBoi45 posted...
You said that your tips stay the same regardless of whether you provide the extra amenities or not. Did you actually try this out or is this just something you were told?

I take lyft like twice a day and I almost always tip drivers who are friendly, have water, charger cables, aux cord, spare masks, etc. It shows they are going the extra mile to try and make the ride a nice experience. So it is not true that no one tips ride share.

Those drivers are usually the most friendly too, and take pride in what they are doing instead of pretending they're better than it and only will do the bare minimum to remain employed. People who work with that type of attitude don't get tips, it's the way the world works.

Maybe analyze your actions and take some criticism, instead of being up your own ass with righteousness?

Yeah I'm gonna have to straight up call BS on you.

Again, whose alt?


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 5:34:43 PM
#296
Transphobic is absolutely not a neutral term at all

Don't be shocked when people point out that you're insulting them.


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 4:32:17 PM
#290
You don't call something transphobic as a descriptive. You call it transphobic as a condemnation of the belief.

Stop tossing around phobias and isms so lightly. They're clearly words used to frame thoughts and opinions in a very negative light and you shouldn't use it as a "descriptive" unless you're darn sure of it.

It's pretty obvious phobias and isms are meant to point out some sort of moral failing. So many bad faith arguments come from just calling it "descriptive."

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 2:50:48 PM
#285
Derwood posted...
These topics pop up every week and they are always an attempt to "gotcha" the people who say "trans women are women" but also would not personally have sex with a trans woman. I'm not sure why people feel the need to do this or what they gain from it.

Probably because the people they are trying to "gotcha" are preaching one thing and living a different thing and should be called out on it.

Women is a broad term and and yes trans women are women, but they're also not cis women. They are distinct types of women. Their life experiences will be very different.

It seems like the people who are constantly delivering fire and brimstone sermons on how "trans women are women" are attempting to erase the concept of a cis woman or remove any sort of distinction between cis and trans.


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 2:46:11 PM
#284
hockeybub89 posted...
Outside of being like a violent criminal or abusive person, I can't think of a single completely disqualifying aspect of any man I would consider dating. You just never know.

And not everyone feels the same way. Your experience is not universal. If you are physically attracted to a wide variety of men then great. Enjoy that.

Some people like me are only attracted to more specific types of men and women. This is me acknowledging the levels of physical attraction I feel to certain types of people.

Also, no we don't criticize personal choices all the time. You might though. If someone does something that doesn't effect me or couldn't effect me then why would I criticize it? What right would I have to do that?

Again, you also say you haven't actually dated anyone so maybe realize that there is probably more that you DONT KNOW about this subject than you do know.

There's a big difference between saying, "I don't understand why X person would do Y, because I would do Z" and "I don't understand why X person would do Y, because Z is the only one that makes sense and X person should be criticized for Y."

So no you aren't supposed to be criticizing others for personal decisions.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 2:21:57 PM
#279
Also WTF at feeling other people's personal choices should be judged. Especially when it comes to who they date which has ZERO effect on you.

Are you actually listening to yourself?

You're trying to tell others who they should and shouldn't date when it doesn't effect you.

Why are you expecting other people to live by some weird standard like that? What business is it of yours to critique this?

You realize this makes you sound like a social conservative right? Trying to dictate other people's dating preferences?

Again, again, again, no one is choosing who they are physically attracted to. Physical attraction is absolutely key for determining who you date.

These preferences aren't better or worse, they just are


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 2:17:18 PM
#278
hockeybub89 posted...
There is no need to make the negative declarations, though. You can't actually say with confidence that every man with brown hair would be an awful match. I do want to judge because I'm not some SJW. I fully believe choices should be judged. Your choice if my opinions influence your decisions.

What you are not understanding is that physical attraction is not at all a choice

You "choose" to date people you have a physical attraction to

Could someone not at all be physically attracted to people with brown hair? Of course they could. I'd assume that'd be pretty rare though. Hair color tends to be moreso framed like you are more/less attracted to this/that hair color rather than an either/or, but it could be an either/or thing too.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 2:03:58 PM
#276
I'm bisexual. I'm attracted to masculine men and feminine women. I don't control this. This is what I am attracted to. I am acknowledging the feelings within me and plainly stating this. I'm not attracted to people who are more gender fluid or non gender conforming.

This is despite the reality that I myself am not at all very gender conforming, but I'm only really attracted to people who are gender conforming.

This is about what I am attracted to physically and what will work in a romantic relationship. Physical attraction is kind of the key component in who you date and you seem to not acknowledge this.

Judging others for their racial minority status is very different from plainly stating what you are attracted to and you seem intent on conflating the two


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:56:23 PM
#275
hockeybub89 posted...
Only racist if they are based on race. You don't need to date literally every person, but it's fucking stupid to make declarative statements when you haven't met every woman of any type. There's no logic there.

A preference is

I tend not to date women of X type

OR

I would never date a woman of X type

You have this idea that you should be open to dating anyone and everyone and if not then be prepared to be criticized for it.

Again, you seem kind of focused on judging someone's dating preferences.

I'm saying it is nonsensical to judge a person for such a thing especially since it is so deeply personal

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:54:28 PM
#274
hockeybub89 posted...
I still have preferences and know that preferences are a choice and different than orientation. It is heterophobic and homophobic for people to equate personal choices in population they are attracted to with their orientation.

No preferences are not all that different from orientation

You can't just control what you are attracted to whether it is man, woman, tall, short, fat, fit, blonde

Sexual attraction is baked into a person and isn't a series of conscious choices. It's a lot like many personality traits. We are a series of of biological drives mixed with environment and we often have little control over either.

Your preferences are really just an acknowledgement about what works for you rather than a conscious choice.


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:48:58 PM
#271
hockeybub89 posted...
Why are you talking about laws?

Their choices don't bother me to some extreme point. They are racist choices and therefore should be called racist. Putting weird rules on the word so we only use it when people are committing hate crimes or passing oppressive laws seems really fucking stupid.

They do bother you, because you feel the need to call them racist. You are blatantly lying to yourself.

There is nothing ever racist about dating preferences. This is dating.

You can have preferences for an extremely intimate relationship. You don't have to leave it open to each and every type of person.

Think for more than a minute about the implications you are making about dating preferences.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:46:53 PM
#270
hockeybub89 posted...
No, because orientation is not a choice. No one is born not wanting to date Hispanic women specifically. That's a choice based on biases from a small sample size.

Uh what?

We don't really choose the types of things we are attracted to or the type of person that would work best for us in a relationship. Sort of like how parts of your personality are beyond your own control. Some things are innate about us which relates to our preferences.

I'm gonna bring this up again, but if you've never ever dated someone before then where do you get all these judgments from? Why are you judging other people's dating preferences when by your own admission you are pretty inexperienced?

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:44:30 PM
#268
averagejoel posted...
flat-out refusal to even consider the idea of having sex with a woman because of her hair colour would be very strange, and probably discriminatory. but to my knowledge, blonde women do not face discrimination on a systemic level because of their hair colour, so it's not an apt comparison in the first place. but I think you already knew that

It is completely irrelevant what systemic anything that person faces. You can have dating preferences of any sort of type.

You can find it strange someone else doesn't want to date blondes, but it doesn't matter what you think. It's someone else's preference and doesn't effect you at all.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 1:42:36 PM
#267
hockeybub89 posted...
But it's literally racist. People are free to have choices, but they should keep them to themselves if they can't handle criticism of their choices.

No it is not at all racist to have dating preferences.

This isn't about who should have what laws apply to them or how law enforcement treats them or how politicians represent them.

This is you personally having a preference for who you date.

Calling that racist really devalues the term racism. Dictating other people's preferences by shaming them is not at all beneficial to anything.

Why do other people's dating preferences bother you to the point that you feel the need to label them with a negative word like racism?


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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 12:56:47 PM
#257
Revnir posted...
Who you're attracted to or willing to have sex with is really a question of bodily autonomy. No one has the right to call you out on it. You have the absolute right to not be with someone you don't want to be with.

That being said it's kind of a dick move and totally unnecessary to scream it from the rooftops just to make people feel bad.

Who is actually screaming this from the roof tops?

People are just stating there is a reality to having preferences.

Why should someone take offense to someone else stating their dating preferences? If a woman stated she was a lesbian and finds men repulsive then why should that bother me?

Or if a hetero woman said she doesn't date men of my type should I care? I mean, if I take everyone else's dating preferences personally then that just sounds like way too much to worry about. I'd rather just not care and focus on dating those whose preferences match up with who I am and my preferences.

No one should be questioning or critiquing someone's preferences and preferences don't need to be shared with anyone besides yourself.

Is it reasonable for a person to find dating a trans person of any type to just not be for them? Other people it's a possibility. For others they may even prefer trans? Do any of these preferences need to be valued any differently from each other? Aren't they all just totally fine preferences to have?

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 12:35:11 PM
#252
hockeybub89 posted...
I have dated zero any people and I have not tried to force or say anyone is entitled to dating anyone. I'm just a fan of accurate language.

You can't choose whether you are attracted to women, but you can choose if you write off entire subsets of women with limited information and biases.

If someone wants to have racist dating preferences, I don't think we should mandate that they change their mind. I just want to call them a racist.

Having common sense and using logic is not insane. I say nothing crazy and actively try to avoid it.

You don't want to mandate they change their mind, but you want to call them a racist.

So you wan to label something as a negative and make your disapproval known? For what purpose? Social influence?

Also, quite frankly, if you've never actually dated any person of any type then perhaps you should realize that may limit your perspective here

Dating is such a personal thing and damn near everyone has an array of preferences. Some things are flexible and some things are not.

If someone wants to date more along their "group" or whatever distinction that could be called then that is their choice. Choosing or not choosing to be interested in any sort of person for dating preferences shouldn't be interpreted as racism.

That isn't describing things accurately. That is attempting to imprint your own illogical and crazy moral standards upon others.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/30/21 10:31:57 AM
#240
hockeybub89 posted...
Calling people accurate terms isn't wrong because some crazy people try to rape people.

How many trans people have you dated?

You say a lot of downright insane things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to date any sort of person of any type. Dating is way too personal of a thing to dictate like that. You can't go around telling other people what their needs should be.

If someone says they don't date X type of minority or whatever then it is fine. Dating is a whole different ballgame. No one is entitled to anything. The only thing that matters is the parties involved and how they feel about it.


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/29/21 8:45:53 PM
#126
goldenBoi45 posted...
You also have no sense of humor. Further signs of being a robot and further explanation of why you get no tips

Lol. I get the industry standard in tips. No one tips ride share. Try to know wtf you are talking about.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 4:07:26 PM
#143
CyricZ posted...
Something so obvious I'd think you could prove.

And you accuse me of this black-and-white worldview.

Yeah you have to be trolling. You're damn near asking me to quote the entire topic as proof and you've been participating in this discussion and countering these points.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:48:31 PM
#136
CyricZ posted...
Did I call anyone a racist or a transphobe in this topic?

I don't self identify in political leaning, so the only word worth addressing there is "insufferable". For that, I apologize. I don't give up easy, and I find myself drawn to this type of conflict.

I'm intent on establishing my opinion and challenging those I disagree with, but even so, isn't what you say just a description of argument in general?

Dude, you're well established on these boards. You say a TON of far left stuff that seems to lack any small nuance. You do shout phobias and isms at people.

These points are not debatable. You're just in complete denial.

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:42:14 PM
#123
goldenBoi45 posted...
You've done a great job convincing me you aren't a robot. Why don't you try operating on love for once? You probably wouldn't be getting called a racist and crying about it on CE. If this story even actually happened

Whose alt is this?

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:41:38 PM
#132
CyricZ posted...
Because it's not happening.

Ok you're 100% wrong on that one lol

How do you think this discussion started?

Cause now you're just denying that a discussion is going on based on this exact scenario

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:39:42 PM
#131
CyricZ posted...
So who's the one with the problem then?

My first post in this topic was respecting the nuance of the situation. If you can't see that and put up your own black-and-white blinders when it comes to the things I say, then I don't think I'm the one with the problem.

I said one black and white sentence and your whole worldview seems very black and white.

It is difficult to call you out for being so black and white without phrasing it in such terms.

Knowing you tend to shout isms and phobias at people over minor things, well....

What I'm trying to say is that you're insufferably far left on the spectrum here and you'd benefit from a little more grey.

Again, I'm a bisexual person. You won't ever know my experience even if you are bisexual too. Sometimes you can't just draw an easy conclusion, but sometimes you can.

You seem intent on this idea of being right and proving others wrong.

The reality is that current society doesn't exactly have clear cut answers for everything and we may look back on this very differently in ten years.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:37:18 PM
#128
Lairen posted...
Why are trans people pressuring people to have sex with them? Or guilting those that dont want to have sex with them?

This is the thing that people keep overlooking.

Regardless of any sort of reason. You have to respect someone not wanting to have sex with anybody for any reason.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 3:24:32 PM
#118
CyricZ posted...
I mean if that's the case, then nothing you or anything anyone else says in this topic could be considered reasonable, because we all have differing opinions.

I only frame things in this way, because people here seem to be looking for a black-and-white "out" on "being a transphobe". These very polls and these very topics suggest people looking for hard lines on where being a transphobe is and isn't, and like you suggest, it's never that easy. Much like with racism. Or sexism.

All you're going to get are opinions.

Again, you go right back to black and white thinking. Like everything is all or nothing.

People can be right or wrong to various degrees. Some things are very wrong like violence, but words can be more complicated. Preferences can be a degree of an ism or phobia, but not necessarily.

Again, you are the one who seems so intent on conclusions and telling everyone right or wrong. You never ever seen able to acknowledge nuance. Then again, I just communicated that with a black and white statement.

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TopicEternals on Rotten Tomatoes.
TommyG663513
10/29/21 2:35:56 PM
#7
It will likely become rotten at this point. The score keeps dropping.

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 2:34:15 PM
#91
CyricZ posted...
Understanding comes with recognizing a distinction between "being a transphobe" and "doing something transphobic".

To do something transphobic does not necessarily require active malice or intent. It can be done via ignorance or misassumption.

Your post exclusively references "being a transphobe", which I would agree would require some level of awareness and intent of what you're doing.

And note that I specifically reference "awareness". For example, if you do something transphobic out of ignorance, and someone were to legitimately call you on that, and you were to deny their claims and continue on as before, then you would have reached the area of "awareness and intent", which dips you closer to "being a transphobe".

Take Ms. JK Rowling, for example. She does not believe she's doing anything to harm trans people with her words and influence, and yet despite being told quite a bit of the harm she's causing, she chooses to double down and press on regardless of that. That's where she crosses into "being a transphobe".

None of this is really all that reasonable when you consider the fact that not all trans people would agree with you.

I figured this out really quick when I started hanging out around other queer people that you can hear a variety of opinions on a variety of subjects. No single minority speaks for all members of that minority.

The world is way less black and white than you continually try to frame it as

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TopicHow do you feel about accountability culture?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 1:53:46 PM
#49
E_S_M_Z posted...
I'm a moderate, and my main issue with the left is they never do that, lmao. Like, I get that far-right douches fail to see any problem with their actions. I understand that. But leftists KNOW when things are clearly wrong and done in the name of their causes, but refuse to admit it, because they think conceding any wrongdoing enables the righties.

That was my soapbox, thank you for coming up here with me.

Yeah I feel similarly.

There's a lot of lefties who are anti criminal charges being brought against fake rape allegations, because it is hard enough for women to come forward as it is.

A lot of lefties are becoming more and more blatantly anti good faith much like a lot of Trumpers always were.

Horseshoe theory has become increasingly true.

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TopicHow do you feel about accountability culture?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 12:14:52 PM
#46
It's hilarious how people keep trying to rebrand cancel culture as accountability culture and it keeps failing to catch on.

Damn near everyone is aware that cancel culture is when a mob of Twitter people go after you and that may or may not overlap with a fair sense of morality.

It's also weird how people try to imply cancel culture means a person isn't being held accountable.

Just admit that cancel culture is real and that it often goes after the correct people, but it can sometimes be problematic. How hard is it for people to just admit that?

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TopicIs a lesbian who won't have sex with trans women transphobic?
TommyG663513
10/29/21 12:11:12 PM
#40
Anyone who voted yes is basically the left wing equivalent of a Trumper. Horseshoe theory in action.

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TopicEdie Falco has been killing it as Hillary on American Crime Story
TommyG663513
10/28/21 7:28:13 PM
#8
Yeah she's basically a god tier actress

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TopicFDNY: 1 In 5 Ambulances, Fire Companies could close when Vaccine Mandate starts
TommyG663513
10/28/21 1:20:18 PM
#23
MelbuFrahma4 posted...
wtf they are threatening to not get to heart attack victims and other people who need help in time to end the vaccine mandate.

@MelbuFrahma4

How did you get the impression that these union officials were threatening to not provide adequate emergency assistance? I got the impression that they are pointing out the reality that the ability for these workers to respond to these situations will be significantly reduced when losing such a significant portion of their staff.

Right or wrong that is the reality when so many workers still won't get vaccinated AND vaccine mandates are officially in place.

I'm all for people getting vaccinated and I think anyone who isn't vaccinated at this point is pretty foolish, but it is silly to act like there aren't possible negative side effects to vaccine mandates.

Of course, there's also negative effects from people not being vaccinated.

It's just complicated and it sounds like vaccine mandates can do some good, but they can also only do so much good.

Losing such a significant amount of the work force like that isn't good even if they're anti vaxxers.

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 10:58:58 PM
#117
PatrickMahomes posted...
oh my sweet summer child

Not sure what you're trying to do here

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 10:25:21 PM
#114
PatrickMahomes posted...
Mine is a little different though - you see, I'm a Lyft driver. Went back to Lyft driving a couple months ago, because GrubHub and UberEATS have not been so busy.

She wasn't wearing a mask when she got in my car. I asked if she had a mask. She said no. I asked if she could get one. She calls her friend and it is apparent that I am picking her up at her friend's apartment and not her own house. Her friend doesn't have a mask for her. This girl offers to pull up her sweatshirt over her face for the entire ride and I I form her that doesn't qualify as a CDC approved mask as is the requirement for all Lyft passengers and drivers.

Then she asks me why I can't just be a good Samaritan and drive her anyways. I again tell her those are the rules and there is no exception as theres a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, and thatll be a home run. And so thatll make it a 4-0 ballgame. She gets really mad and calls me racist and says I must hate black people.

Like WTF

I get TONS of people of all types who get into my car without a mask. I ask them if they have a mask and most of them do, but won't put it on unless I out a little pressure. Some people don't have one on them, but have on inside their home and I tell them that Im happy to wait for them to go grab one.

I enforce this rule on absolutely everyone as I am required to do.

Honestly, Lyft driving is pretty great outside of dealing with people like this. The vast majority of people wear a mask no problem.

This is the first time I've ever been called racist for enforcing a rule that the app informs every single passenger of multiple times whenever they order a ride.

Copy and pasting my post doesn't make it a copypasta

I posted a description of what happened. Reacting like that is just straight up bad faith. How is this a difficult scenario for you to understand?

Also, what was with the baseball play by play edited into there?

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 8:21:27 PM
#109
kewldude475 posted...
Surprised no one has mentioned that this is an obvious troll topic yet.

Probably, because that doesn't make any sort of sense?

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 7:56:58 PM
#106
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
For the last time, I understand. You got one of those unruly customers. One way to prevent the escalation is to offer a mask before kicking them out. If that doesn't fix work, then boot them.

If you want to focus the discussion on how you taught that specific customer a lesson then that's cool. I only offered a tip as to help you avoid situations like that. I wasn't defending the person for calling you racist.

And I explained why I don't have to do that and in fact think it is a terrible idea and sends the wrong message and I am in fact incentivized to boot the passenger

And around in circles we go.....

At the end of the day, it is my car, my property. There is no benefit to giving rides to people who still need their hand held to follow very basic safety precautions.

I am beyond nice and calm in my tone when I communicate to them. The escalation was on her part. Crazy people who cry racism deserve nothing.


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 7:42:10 PM
#104
PatrickMahomes posted...
You ever try and pass the buck and say "I'm sorry but it's Lyft's rule and not my own, I could get fired for giving you a ride?" or something like that

It's easier to yell at a metaphysical megacorporation rather than just a guy who doesn't make the rules

I do explain to them that these are lyft's rules which are based on guidance from the CDC.

I have zero interest in enforcing these rules unless the powers that be deem it a necessary safety precaution. I'm no covid expert. Just trying to follow what the rules are.

Also, I had to order Lyft rides earlier this week when I had some car work done and the app communicates the same thing to passengers. Actually, I was very surprised by just how well the app communicates this and now my sympathy for these maskless riders has completely disappeared.


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 7:38:26 PM
#102
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Only problem I have is not related to the subject, but it is your condescending tone you keep taking with me and how you keep repeating rules, rules, rules despite me continually expressing I understand.

A potential benefit is not getting butt hurt to the point where you whine about your job. I mentioned this to you already. There will always be customers who complain, but if you can somehow flip the experience by doing something special the there's a chance they'll remember your kindness which can be rewarding in different ways.

Nothing I've said changes your routine other than offering a mask if they don't have one. Kick em out if they refuse.

I'm not whining about my job. Your concocting a straw man. I'm not explaining this to you again after this post.

I followed Lyfts policies to a T and this customer was completely out of line to call me racist.

I'm genuinely baffled how you keep overlooking the fact that she called me racist and keep trying to act like she would have learned something productive out of this. Well, she did learn that she can't talk her way out of not having a mask when ordering ride share. She learned that there are consequences for that.

I asserted myself with her very clearly what the rules are in the most polite and calm way that I possibly could and I got yelled at and called a racist for it.

This was a problem passenger and she rightfully got reported for it. Customers who break any sort of safety related rule at a business should not at all be given any leeway. This isn't just about my safety, but the safety of other passengers as well.

If she had gotten to my car and stood outside my car for a sec and said "I'm sorry, but I don't have a mask, I thought I had one or lost it whatever, do you have one I could use?"

She didn't do that though. She just got into my car and expected it not to be an issue despite Lyft communicating through the app a few different times that masks are required. She chose to ignore that and get into my car and act like the rules don't apply to her.

She even asked me "why can't you just be a good Samaritan and give me a ride anyways?"

She felt entitled to it and got put in her place and then she accused me of racism.

This person deserves absolutely zero sympathy from anyone


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 7:30:39 PM
#100
Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
Not familiar with this app too much since I rarely need to order rides anywherehow can they not give you a bad rating for you kicking them out?

I kick them out before the ride even starts.

When I get to their location, I hit arrived. I will NEVER EVER start the ride until the customer is masked up. I will sit there and wait until they do. If they don't have a mask on then I just ask if they have a mask. If they say no then I explain that I can't give them a ride without a mask.

The app then has an option for me to go to cancel a ride and I cite the reason for the cancellation as "passenger does not have a face covering." The. The ride is over before it even begins, I get paid a few bucks, then the passengers account gets hit with a ding for ordering a ride without a face covering. If this happens to the passenger enough then their account may get suspended or banned altogether.

But if I hit start ride and then kick them out mid ride they can still rate me.

I'd rather avoid the risk of ever having a mask less rider in my car give me a bad rating.

That being said with ratings, it only counts my last 100 rides and I'm giving 50 rides a week give or take so there is only so much a bad rating can even hurt me.

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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 7:08:30 PM
#93
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Then don't mark them if they wear your mask. Or just continue kicking people out. Just seems like an easy fix with potential benefits is all I've been getting at since the start.

I'm gonna continue kicking people out.

There are no potential benefits. I've explained this to you countless times. I often get paid better for booting them and Lyft is one step closer to banning a problem customer. What is the problem you keep seeing here?


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 6:56:38 PM
#91
goldenBoi45 posted...
It really says something about you that the only value you see in having water and mints is that it will change your tips somehow. Instead of just wanting to do the job well and make the experience as easy and enjoyable as possible for everyone.

The reason you don't get tips regardless of what you do is probably more to do with your cold, "I don't owe these people anything, why can't they be responsible??" attitude. That tends to shine through regardless of what you have available for the customers.

Shit is hard enough as it is out here for everyone, sometimes people are in a hurry and don't have a mask. You could make it easier and better for everyone but you refuse to, just out of some weird feeling of superiority to others who aren't 100% prepared for every situation. You sound like a robot

No

I do my job very well

My job is transportation

Not getting tips is standard

I follow Lyft drivers/Reddit and this is all common practice and experiences among drivers


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TopicA black girl told me I was racist today because....
TommyG663513
10/27/21 6:55:35 PM
#90
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
I understand all that. You're a strict rule follower.

But I don't think you understand the concept of going above and beyond. It's one thing to just refuse to do so because you feel like it, but you seem unable to weigh in pros and cons.

And I don't think offering a mask prevents you from marking passengers who came in without one.

Yes it does prevent me from marking them, because then I'd be marking them when they have one after I gave it to them. That is fraudulent. Are you listening to what you've said?

Again, these are the proper procedures.


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