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Topic$15/hr becoming normal wage as employers struggle to hire.
MajesticFerret
07/28/21 12:34:23 AM
#169
Thaumaturge posted...
I think the best way to describe you and your ilk is "failed human." Someone that looks human but failed to acquire any humanity and now just walk around as empty she'll parroting off right-wing talking points.

Honestly, people like you give Liberals a bad name. You don't get to spout of literal nonsense in then call someone "right-wing" for telling you REALITY.

Thinking unskilled labor needs to start at $33/hr, which is nearly 70k, which is more than I made out of college with my expensive highly difficult STEM degree for minimum labor isn't "progressive," it's fucking delusional. Not to mention 70k/yr is absolutely way above "living wage" given I know dozens of friends who live extremely comfortable for well under half that.

"Well, if you can't afford to pay that you shouldn't be a business!" Well, a vast majority of jobs in this country can't afford to pay people $33/hr, so you would literally just create mass unemployment with this policy.

You are no longer arguing for a living wage, you are arguing for people to pay you what you simply are not worth and what the economy cannot sustain. That's not a "Conservative talking point," this is you denying reality.

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Topic$15/hr becoming normal wage as employers struggle to hire.
MajesticFerret
07/27/21 11:05:32 PM
#128
Payzmaykr posted...
Or heres an idea: force landlords and rental companies to rent homes for fair prices ($300 for an apartment and $600 for a house),

Bruh, maybe you should actually be a home owner before throwing around arbitrary asenine numbers like this.

What kinda houses are people renting out, fucking shacks? $600/month doesn't even cover a lot of homes property taxes, let alone maintenance, HOA fees, and paying towards the cost of the actual house/land.

Same thing with those joke tier apt complex costs. You know what the most expensive thing when building houses or apt complexes? Labor...the same thing you want to go up drastically.

You would be hard pressed to find an apt in places like Thailand for $300 and the price of labor over there is joke compared to most western countries even now. You want them to start building apts out of cardboard and offload the repair costs to you? Because that's about all that is sustainable at renting at $300/month, especially in a country where some of these people want bare minimum labor to be $33/hr.

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Topic$8,000 but you have to beat Brie Larson in a bareknuckle cage fight
MajesticFerret
07/26/21 6:27:21 PM
#17
...you're paying $8K to a site full of grown ass men to fight a fairly small actress who largely doesn't even do her own stunts and has zero legitimate fighting experience?

I mean, at least make it a scary chick, like Amanda Nunez or something. I'd still take the money and probably win against her, but she's put up a whole hell of a lot more of a fight than Brie Larson would.

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TopicJohnny Depp fans and Jason Momoa fans are boycotting Aquaman 2 over Amber Heard
MajesticFerret
07/21/21 9:56:39 PM
#39
I don't want to see an entire franchise flop because people dislike ONE actor in the series, but hopefully DC will get the hint and recast her for the next movie if the voices are loud enough.

I think it's too late for them to pull the plug on her in this one.

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TopicC/D College is a scam
MajesticFerret
07/21/21 9:52:26 PM
#98
I have Engineer friends who got good grades and were broke out of college and other engineers who got bad grades but are now making bank (100k+, which is say is reasonably lucrative) as an engineer.

What was the difference? Compromising on field and location. The guys who succeeded as engineers, even with a mediocre graduating GPA, were willing to go to locations that weren't optimal in fields that many might find boring (oil/gas, manufacturing, etc). Basically working for large corporations or in some cases bring an Engineer for the government. The ones with good grades but were underpaid work for some small business in the town they graduated from or were unwilling to travel too far or compromise on where they were willing to move to get their career off the ground.

And once you have about 5-10 yrs of experience, THEN you can be much pickier where you live as you are in far greater demand.

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TopicC/D College is a scam
MajesticFerret
07/21/21 9:23:34 PM
#82
If you get a degree in STEM or Law, no, literally everything else is a rip off and you have a high probability you won't get a return on your investment.

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TopicHollywood will start appeasing centrists and alt-righters
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 5:18:56 PM
#24
No corporation will ever appeal to the alt-right because it's a tiny demographic full of poor rednecks and broke neckbeards and the only people that act like it's a large demographic are the people who try to push the "if you lean even remotely right and don't agree with everything I say, you are clearly alt-right."

I've heard people call actual Republican politicians "alt-right"...alt right means alternative right, no one who is actually representing people can be called "alternative." You can hate Trump all you want, but he is by very definition not "alt-right."

BTW, I'd still argue centrists are the most catered too demographic. Just because you have occasional homosexual characters and women no longer look like escorts in video games doesn't change the fact that most games don't really push any partisan agenda from a socio-economic standpoint or make any real arguments other than "hey, minorities and non-hetero people exist, we should give them some representation in our video games."

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TopicC/D: This man is white
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 12:37:26 PM
#31
AmericaTheBrave posted...
Interesting. 79% of CE does not consider this Greek man white.

Because his skin color is visibly brown and he has visibly middle eastern features?
Just because his parents came from Greece doesn't mean he is native Greek.

A quick Google search of Greek men shows a bunch of tan looking white guys, ie, people with caucasian features and lightly bronzed skin. This guy doesn't look like a "tan white guy", he has much darker features across the board.

And again, the standards for what is "white" change country to country, but if we consider "white" in America as being "visibly white" to the point where people think you're of standard European background, the guy looks "ethnic."

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TopicWealth shown to scale.
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 12:30:48 PM
#111
pistachio12 posted...
Completely agree.

And on top of what you say, people completely disregard that he uses those stocks as leverage for so many other things like buying a house for $165 million. Look what his imaginary stock did!

Ok, then show his actual liquidable assets to scale and not this monsterous sum of money that it would quite literally be impossible for him to cash in all at once without it massively depreciating in value.

A lot of people worth a whole lot less than 185B own houses in the 100M range.

Oh and what about MacKenzie Scott's donations in the past year. That imaginary stock has sure been used to help so many people!

Still doesn't represent the absurd wanking that his "wealth to scale" represents. It would actually be interesting to see the exact amount of people MacKenzie's donations helped given a lot of charity money is lost to bullshit beauracracy.

Either Bezos (and all the ultra wealthy like him) is the richest man in the world or he's a figment of his stocks. Interestingly, places like Forbes choose to include stocks in a person's worth...

Oh no, he's still stupidly rich, but the people acting like you could liquidate all his money and magically change the world are delusional. His wealth is based on him selling something, something that literally only governments can afford, so only our tax payer dollars or a foreign tax payer dollars could properly liquidate him all at once. To not tank Amazon's stock price, he has to liquidate in reasonable sums...and when he does this, he is taxed... Point is, the guy paying "nothing" in taxes is only being pushed with people with an agenda that know damn well he is paying taxes but want more money for their own personal gain (because the richest neighborhood in America is owned by people who are "public servants" with 200k/yr salaries but they own $30M houses...) and we have practically no problem paying for most government programs as is.

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TopicWealth shown to scale.
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 2:42:02 AM
#103
TrollTrace posted...
That money could be used in infrastructure and a bunch of other projects that help society instead of him using it as a figure to flex on people with less money. Businesses like facebook and amazon etc. Are not forged from competition but chosen in a lottery like system by the invisible hand of the market.

You are aware Jeff Bezos money is tied in the stock market, something that is affected by supply and demand and requires people to actually buy it in order to sell it, and is based on future appreciated value based on earnings that only result if it keeps giving back value to people, right?

Jeff Bezos literally could not liquidate vast portions of Amazon even if he wanted. And if he flooded the stock market with his enormous share count that nobody can even afford to buy, his shares would plummet and all this imaginary money people who don't know anything about the stock market keep wanking would massively plummet in value. He is rich because he owns tons of share in Amazon, which are valuable, because they are in market demand and are in scarcity. Flood the market with a gajillion shares and their worth plummets tremendously.

So who is rich enough to liquidate Bezos stocks? The government could do it, but then they'd be giving up tax payer money to buy a mega corporation, and governments owning big corporations is communism, not that the government is much better at paying people good wages for menial labor either, they just give better retirement plans and benefits...so you'll still be broke working from them, you'll just get rewarded with ok healthcare and you'll get to retire slightly above poverty level, which I guess is better than not retiring at all.

I guess foreign governments could buy Bezos stock, so then China gets to own vast shares of Amazon and have a say in how the company is run because we think a man holding a bunch of imaginary money that is only worth what it is worth due to very specific market conditions is so problematic.

But I digress, no Jeff can't simply just "give" all his imaginary money away and fix all the world's problems. The only people rich enough to buy Jeff out at this point are literal governments, and if our own government buys him out, they're paying 185B in our tax money to do it, and if any other government buys him out...well, you are no probably answering to the Chinese or Russians.

That being said, I would like Amazon to pay their workers a bit more given how they've proven how profitable and sustainable their business model is, but a vast majority of Americans below the poverty line aren't there because Amazon underpays them, they literally don't work for Amazon and they're there because of disability, or they fucked themselves into poverty by having too many kids they can't afford, or got addicted to life ruining drugs, or have a debilitatingly bad criminal record, or refusing to work full time.

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TopicBeing A Girl Is Easy?
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 2:18:44 AM
#45
I like how the topic is "Being a girl is easy?" and then only shows proof that getting laid as a girl is easy.

Yes, getting laid as a woman is easy, but there's a lot more to life than getting laid and a lot of things that can happen in a woman's life that can make it get very difficult very fast.

Such as:
-sex trafficked
-physically abused
-sexually abused
-trying to get commitment out of the guys who you can sleep with, which is apparently 100x harder than merely sleeping with them
-raising a kid by yourself and trying to get commitment from any halfway decent guy as a single mom
-giving birth in general as well as menstruating
-being in any dangerous situation where being faster or having stronger upper body strength is vital

I'd still argue being a man is harder ON AVERAGE, but I don't think being a woman is intrinsically EASY persay, just different struggles.

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TopicUniversal is SUED for 30K after a MINIONS character flashed WHITE POWER Sign!!
MajesticFerret
07/12/21 2:11:59 AM
#76
It's pretty obvious this guy is doing it in an extremely obvious way that a standard ok sign wouldn't make sense in any context so yeah...he is probably doing some derpy shit and thinks people are too stupid to call him out on it.

That being said, it still annoys the hell out of me and is ridiculous that somehow the "ok" sign has been appropriated by white supremacists and we all apparently let it happen and are ok with it. If he made the sign in any context where an ok sign would make sense in context I'd give him a pass, but him making an out of context ok sign when taking pics specifically with ethnic children...is pretty out of context and looks sus af.

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TopicDo you think the US needs to enact communism?
MajesticFerret
07/05/21 12:52:05 AM
#54
Notti posted...
No to communism.

Yes to guaranteeing every citizen: food, water, health, shelter, and education.

Literally every US citizen has access to all of the things listed, including healthcare, though it would be nice if healthcare didn't bankrupt you without insurance.

Healthcare needs to be fixed and I think capitalism has wholistically failed it as a business. Everything else you said though, people have. It's on the homeless if they'd rather live on the streets and ask for drug money than go to the dozens of shelters that are nowhere near capacity where they provide food, water, and shelter and help these people get back on their feet. A lot of these people would rather just live free and not stay clean.

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TopicIs transracial a thing?
MajesticFerret
07/02/21 3:29:41 AM
#100
If you're ok with transsexuals, it makes zero sense to not also be pro transracial.

Your sex is far more based in biology than your race. If anything, race is hyper subjective and ridiculous anyways, as there's people out there with like 10% black that identify as black, people who are 50% black who identify as white, tons of people can say they have "pride" in their heritage despite having extremely small percentage of said ethnicity (ex. Saying your proud to be Irish when you're like 5% Irish lol and this is vastly more true of most people who identify as native American), all sorts of stupid shit.

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TopicBill Cosby to be released from prison after court overturns conviction
MajesticFerret
06/30/21 2:43:44 PM
#65
Time for Cosby to cash in on all that meme product placement.

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TopicPolice do not prevent crime. They respond to crime and they only solve a whoppin
MajesticFerret
06/30/21 3:24:51 AM
#47
Trickfinger posted...
only on ce would we get posters unanimously mocking BLM. christ

Only on ce would we get disingenuous shit posters that insinuate that supporting black lives and defunding the police are synonymous and if you disagree with the later you are mocking the former.

"If u don think getting rid o police iz gud idea u racist"

-Trickfinger, the low effort race baiting troll

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Topicwhen SBAllen shuts down this site what will you do?
MajesticFerret
06/30/21 3:11:36 AM
#50
Go to Reddit. The only thing Gamefaqs has over it is a cleaner layout tbh

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TopicWould you ever F*** with a Ouija board?
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 1:34:07 PM
#54
Already did. Nothing happened.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:38:16 PM
#126
ThanksUglyGod posted...
I think people aren't engaging with your long posts because a lot of the time your very first paragraph is either hyperbolic or just flat out wrong.

Dude, the reason my posts are long are because I needed to already provide receipts so guys like you wouldn't just hand wave all the other toxic shit the guy said.

"What you are saying is hyperbolic:" then go quote the toxic posts and tell me your alternative interpretation and stop being a lazy bum then.

When the author says racism is "ordinary" it's not to say that people have to learn not to be afraid of others outside of their family (not racism btw),

Being subconsciously afraid of people different than you is racist and is one of the key basis for inherent subconscious racism. Not expressed in this paper, but it's pretty commonly known psychology.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:26:06 PM
#123
legendary_zell posted...
You may not be a MAGA guy but you do have a deeply deeply conservative world view and political orientation. That much is clear from everything you've ever posted.

Nah, cool with ACA and more progressive taxes, even pushing harder particularly on taxing stock growth when a lot of people just want to tax shit the rich people are going to casually side step anyways, which is pretty much the mainstream DOC platform.

The fact that you think people aren't entitled to the money they have earned in our current system and the implication that individual earning is flawed and we need some sort of overarching system to dictate everyone's earnings is pretty textbook communism, comrade.

Everything looks "deepy Conservative" when you are a Marxist and hate capitalism/meritocracy.

Antifar posted...
Does this standard apply to children born into wealth? Is Donald Trump Jr's living standard proportional to his contribution to society, for example?

Yes, because Donald Trump Jr. is part of Trump's family unit, Trump Sr. (or more specifically even his Sr. Sr.) generated the wealth, and generational wealth is something we should ENCOURAGE, not frown upon.

Starting from ground zero in terms of wealth being something we should all strive for is the dumbest take imaginable. There's tons of lower income families that make immense sacrifices to put their kids through college so those kids can live a better life and not have to work as hard as them or wager their entire livelihood to try to start a business in the hopes it takes off and they can hand the business off to their children.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:10:40 PM
#122
MedeaLysistrata posted...
I'm on page 8 of the article and it says nothing unusual, what of the five tenets do you disagree with? Can you point to what in the text you think is misguided? I havent followed the whole topic so sorry if you have to repeat something

My foot note break down of my contentions with the tenets is:

(1) the notion that racism is ordinary and not aberrational;

I actually agree with this sentiment as studies have already shown people already instinctually side with people who look more like their family than people who don't look like their family with humans becoming less loyal and more innately fearful the further away from looking like their family unit they become.

However, he takes this too far. This is the part where he argues the entire basis of education is racist (he absolutely is NOT just talking about funding differences between schools), which I don't think he provides anywhere near enough evidence to suggest (again, America is basically doing what the rest of the world is doing from a high level) and provides many scholar quotes insinuating the standard way of teaching naturally disenfranchises POC, which I again take contention with.

Keep it a litte less subjective and talk about race in regards to economic impact, but teaching anyone below college level that the entire learning system is rigged against them is a dangerous accusation to make. College kids can handle this as they already made it through HS and are actively paying for school, but this particular message will resonate most strongly with kids who already hate school/the system, and it will help them justify poor performance.

(2) the idea of an interest convergence;

If he wants to talk about the idea of interest convergence and how it relates to disenfranchising people, he needs to be FAR more specific.

For example:
https://images.app.goo.gl/8gBXnyLDXqwo5tTa6

The following document is unacceptable and premotes white supremacy. White people didn't invent or moniker half of this shit and it insinuates virtually every aspect of western society is designed to premote white people and hurt non-white, which is simply not true.

If there are PARTICULAR western values you feel are racist...you should point them out. You can't just blanket statement call ALL western values as inherently "white," especially when if you're 8 pages deep, you know the document absolutely does not have a positive connation of things that are inherently "white."

(3) the social construction of race;

I didn't have any contentions here. If anything, teaching people that race is largely a social construct is just factual.

(4) the idea of storytelling and counter-storytelling;

I HAD no contention with this, until the author suggested we should be teaching fictional stories about how it would be completely unexpected for white people to sell out all black people to aliens as slaves if they promised us a bunch of stuff, which is unproven and premotes that white people will ALWAYS be racist and will throw black people under the bus.

We have enough stories of the past of attrocities to teach those, we don't need to brainwash people into thinking they have nothing but a bleak racist future to look forward too.

and (5) the notion that whites have actually been recipients of civil rights legislation.

This is mostly true, but they really should add the word "some" in front of whites. It makes the statement more provably true, and helps not demonize low income whites, many of which probably didn't benefit from the power grab of using free labor.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 11:31:42 AM
#115
legendary_zell posted...
That system for distributing housing you described is not only just a political stance and not any type of natural law, it's not even how it works now.

It's exactly how it works now. Let me explain later.

Our ideas of what contributes to a society are political and largely arbitrary.

Calling supply and demand economics "arbitrary" is a bit ridiculous and short sighted, but ok.

Houses are not distributed based on "contribution to society" and they never have been.

Of course they are.

What determines what quality of house/living standards you have? How much money you have.

Your net worth and earnings are literally decided by societal contribution, which is determined through the free market, which is determined by what people are willing to pay for the value you bring, which is determined by supply/demand free market economics.

This can be in the form of immensely helping a few individuals (like a doctor or lawyer) or providing tons of enjoyment to countless individuals (like entertainers).

Every exchange of money is someone placing a monetary value on what value you are giving them, based on all the principles stated above.

Even trust fund babies, you can argue their parents did the contributing and they as part of the family unit, get to benefit from those contributions.

So yeah, your contribution to society more or less dictates where you can choose to live.

Very high societal contribution? Live wherever you want. Very low societal contribution? Your choices are more limited.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 11:22:08 AM
#112
MedeaLysistrata posted...
So TC. What do you think the outcome of teaching CRT will be?

I already said it. Disenfranchisement, particularly of POC who already hate school and feel disenfranchised by it, which will make things even worse for these people.

And the way they teach the doctrines will probably produce unnecessary white hate, which will result in an uptick in hate crimes on both ends which really doesn't need to be taught to teach historical awareness of injustice.

I think most POC who like/tolerate school enough to understand education is the highest probability path of success will probably just suck it up and hustle anyways, but they would have done this without CRT. CRT kinda seems to give disenfranchised people a free pass to continue to remain disenfranchised.

Why bother making good grades or striving to succeed in a system where everything you do is being pushed as ultimately only beneficial to white middle class, as this guy puts it?

My edits to the theory would be:

-teaching anyone well below college level that school is rigged against them is dumb, plus I don't think there's enough basis for all practices/policies in school to be as problematic as the paper suggests. You can teach them about economic handicaps, but keep that related to economics, don't need to tell anyone below college age school is rigged against them or insinuate it might be a waste of time and that the entire school system is heavily flawed and needs reworking, especially when no such alternative is suggested.
-teach more racial history exactly as is, and let people make their own conclusions. Villainizing everything, including the modern system, as white oppression isn't based enough in fact, and can come off as reverse racism unless taught with extreme care, which I doubt most teachers are qualified to do.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 11:10:20 AM
#109
legendary_zell posted...
Is the constitution requiring that free lawyers be provided to the poor slavery?

They are being paid, so no.

But requiring the occasional lawyer to the poor is not the same as everyone living rent free.

Living standard is something directly preportional to societal contribution. Want to live in a big mansion? Contribute more to society and receive brownie points (money) to pay for it. Same applies to a house, condo, quality of apt, etc.

If you're ok with living rent free, you're going to have to live in places so low demand people would rather work to not live there than not work to live there.

So yeah, we already have "rent free" places, but all of society being rent free? Who decides who is going to live where, and how does society not immediately collapse of no one does anything? Cost of living is literally the no. 1 reason people still work. Take it out of the equation and most will stop working.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 11:02:09 AM
#106
matchboxsantana posted...
@MajesticFerret how do you feel about George Zimmerman?

The fact that you're asking these questions is a sign that politics is literally nothing but a giant race war to you.

Don't have strong enough details in his case to die on a hill, but it's a guy who appears to have got off shooting a black teen in self defense. The contention comes from there being strong evidence he was a racist (said the n word in the police call), but there wasn't particularly strong evidence him being racist is the reason the kid was shot, with some witnesses helping Zimmermans case that the kid assaulted first, thus why the guy got off.

Derek Chauvin?

Giy who is going to prison for kneeling on someone's neck for 9mins. There is debate as to the motivation (is he racist, did he just lose track of time arguing with the witnesses there) but the end result is police officers should be more accountable for there actions and his recklessness cost a man his life.

Donald Trump?

Mediocre president with device rhetoric, but isn't the anti-christ like some hardcore liberals let on.

Kyle Rittenhouse?

Go who went to rally with a gun looking for trouble and definately found it.

The Proud Boys?

Founder (Gavin McInnes) is definately racist. Not sure how I feel about the entire organization and if they should be judged on his merits or not as I don't believe he is associated anymore.

Seems to be a bunch of violent rightists that like to get in fights with violent leftists, like Antifa.

As far as I'm concerned, I hope they both eat each other alive.

Putin?

President of Russia who does a lot of shady shit lol. C'mon, even if I was a MAGAist, you really expect them to defend Putin?

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:46:13 AM
#101
matchboxsantana posted...
I love how the MAGA crowd conflates everything they do not like with communism.

I love how really dumb posters with no good arguments conflate not agreeing with you on one thing as surely you must be MAGA and gas lighting for it.

So do you actually have any arguments for the subject at hand, or should I just start marking your posts as off topic and move on?

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:44:02 AM
#99
legendary_zell posted...
If you think the politics board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is communist, I question your judgment and your ability to accurately perceive and interpret reality/written text.

There's probably like 5 communists on this entire website.

Go post the topics that I said then.

I already have a guy in here saying rent should be free. Rent being free under a capitalist system is almost impossible, but is something heavily pushed in Marxism.

So these people aren't "identified" communists, they just adhere to extremely commonly pushed communist utopia principles...gotcha.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:41:22 AM
#96
MedeaLysistrata posted...
Why does rent being free make no sense?

Because a house costs finite resources and people's labor to build, neither of which you are entitled too, slave lording comrade.

You guys are totally ok with slavery the second it means you get to be lazy AF.

It could reasonably be free or socialized.

We have places where people can live rent free and apparently, this wasn't enough.

Rent must not only be free, but it has to be a desirable place to rent, in that someone else wants it so much more than you, they are willing to pay for it...yet you deserve it for free...

Starting to see why "rent being free" starts to look really dumb in application really quickly? Supply and demand. If you live in a highly desirable location/building, I want to live there, and if I'm willing to pay for it, I deserve it more than someone who is not.

you just probably think progress is impossible

I just think hyper idealistic communism is stupid and doesn't work and what you're pushing is stupid overly idealistic communism.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:33:55 AM
#91
matchboxsantana posted...
people have brown eyes because they're shit-eyes, you heard it first here, guys. No racial bro.

Imagine being so uninformed you've never heard this incredibly common saying and think it has anything to do with race lol

Go back to making stupid posts how hard work is 100% meaningless, comrade. Maybe you'll disenfranchise enough people they can join you in poverty.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:30:31 AM
#90
matchboxsantana posted...
to labelling the entire gamefaqs population as rabid lazy ass commie manchildren.

Please learn to fucking read, my guy.

261 is full of lazy ass commie man children...not the ENTIRETY of gfaqs...because that statement is overwhelmingly true.

Go create a topic stating basic economic truths, like "rent being free makes no sense" and "being paid a salary isn't slavery" and you will literally get barraged by most of the most known and avid posters on that board if you want a litmus test on where that board stands politically.

Literal Biden is pretty much a hardcore MAGAist their bar for right wingdom is so low.

CE at least has more moderates and reasonable libs, but 261 is straight up about as left as it gets.

So yeah...kinda hard to take the peanut gallery seriously when a lot of the people with the low IQ ad homenem attacks have nothing intelligent to say and are most are comrade anti-cap grifters.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:17:49 AM
#85
ChocoboMogALT posted...
"I'm as much a victim as PoC, look at me!"

Can you actually quote anywhere where I imply this?

You have literally dozens of posts to quote from, if you weren't so full of shit your eyes were brown this should be an extremely easy task.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:14:14 AM
#84
matchboxsantana posted...
uh no. You were never on the fence, your 261 board reputation precedes you. You're known there as a hardcore MAGAist.

Imagine me giving a flying fucking what communist 261 thinks. Anyone who can read anything I say can see I'm not a "hardcore" Conservative, this is just Commiefaqs where literally everything right of Bernie Bro and dumb shit like this:

hockeybub89 posted...
Disney fantasy to think hard work means anything in this society.

Not to mention literally everyone on the entire board is a lazy communist that thinks rent should be free (nearly every member of that board has avidly defended this belief), all landlords are evil, slavery is totally ok as long as it benefits the lazy and disenfranchised (demanding free shit is slavery as people have to work to produce/make that shit) and anyone on salary is a "wage slave" and that exchanging work for money, regardless of pay, is not a fair exchange...it's not a board full of "liberals," it's full of whiny man children complainers that just bitch about society and think they should be given free shit.

Neither party will ever provide them their lazy stoner communist utopia where you can sit on your ass and play video games rent and utility free, so I guess sorry if thinking you don't deserve to live life rent free and you should get off your ass and fucking do some work to contribute to society is too "right wing" for a bunch of fucking hippies.

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Topicname ONE person that's been "cancelled" that we want brought back.
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 2:22:32 AM
#159
Tyranthraxus posted...
Sure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture

I consider wiki a good source only if wiki cites it's sources well.

This particular article, does not.

They have literally no citation for the main definition, and even the second part where they call ostracization they took from a Washington Post article that doesn't deep dive into any definitions and very loosely talks on what true cancelling is.

And Washington Post isn't official enough of a source imo either tbh.

No adult gives a flying fuck about social media ostracization or the other dumb shit they are trying to deflect from the real problem.

The major complaint about cancel culture is being able to casually shit can people and destroy their livelihood over stuff that is determined by the court of public opinion, sometimes with very little evidence the court of public even hates them that much or evidence of their wrongdoings.

This is the part the naysayers completely focus on. I guess you could say cancelling someone from other stuff is part of it, but it is not the part anyone actually cares about or has contention with.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 1:41:32 AM
#157
Darmik posted...
The guy had both co-workers and fans who complained about his behavior.

There was actual evidence of people who hated him for no reason coming up with reasons to actively cancel him, who produced the initial and most extreme accusations against the guy.

The literally edited fan photos to make some look worse than they were...

There was deep diving by the fans in some of the photos used against him, with them finding the source of the photo and the said person saying the photo was edited and they were happy to take a photo with him...and they could find the original to prove there were people posting slander photos of him.

The whole thing was extremely shady, and I'm talking about it being really clear some people wanted to explicitly character assassinate him.

He was fired and then attempted to sue the company and his co-workers.

He lost mostly because it's almost impossible to sue an at will employer for cutting ties with you for almost any reason.

An immense amount of stuff leading up to his cancellation was extremely shady, including a lot of his co-workers being massive hypocrites and acting like they loved Vic literally all up until the minute they decided to throw him under the bus.

You should not be sending social media correspondences implying you like and think someone is a good person up until the literal minute you "out them as a scumbag" without it looking sketch AF,cespecially with all the other shady stuff surrounding the case.

In the meantime both him and his crony lawyers are fleecing his fans for money to pay for his legal fees. Something that continues to this day including Vic taking Church donations. Despite being born to a wealthy family and bragging that he makes thousands on a weekend signing autographs.

So was he cancelled or not cancelled? Based on my definition he was, it sounds to me like anyone still liking him or giving him money is still too much.

he still sounds like a fucking creep.

Yeah, he can't really control how he sounds... Nice descrimination though.

And this is the sort of guy you want back? lol

Sure, why not. Guy is still getting paid anyways, this time to do no work and the guy was cancelled for frivolous reasons that were not backed remotely. Him not being able to successfully sue Viz proves nothing, it is monsterously difficult to sue an at will employer for firing you for almost any reason.

Welcome to capitalism mf, where cancel culture is really just corporations flexing about how easily they can fire you, many without even an HR investigation really, which is not required by law and is kinda just if the corp feels like it.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 1:26:35 AM
#156
Tyranthraxus posted...
And while it's your right to disagree with her definition, her definition is the most comprehensive and agreed on definition.

See, this is the part that requires citation. And you can't just post her as her only citation lol


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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:42:29 AM
#149
Tyranthraxus posted...
*Head explodes*

*Appropriate* is actually the correct term. Gentrify is technically wrong bit I couldn't think of the right word atm.

She was trying to appropriate cancel culture as something only young people should be allowed to do

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TopicIKEA Under Fire for Fried Chicken, Watermelon Menu Items for Juneteenth
MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:39:50 AM
#93
The Sock posted...
Yikes.

What's ironic is that the IKEA company is one of the most progressive companies in the world (their CEO is a fair and decent person too), so I have no clue how they fucked up just this once.

Probably got trolled by a black employee. I don't think their PR would say they consulted some black employees if it's completely untrue.

Or the black employee just genuinely wanted fried chicken, watermelon, and Mac n' cheese, which is vastly superior to shitty cornbread and meatloaf in every way.

SuperShake666 posted...
@Error1355 Please ban this man for such truly trash taste. Good lord.

It's dry and tastes like buttery cardboard. I take back nothing.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:36:02 AM
#147
Tyranthraxus posted...

Getting fired is cancelling. Don't care if some woman (assuming that's what she identifies as) disagrees with me, I also didn't like the part where she gentrified cancel culture as some "youth" thing and that older people shouldn't get in involved/"stole it" when it is overwhelming older people being cancelled and older people doing the cancelling...it's definately not some z-gen thing. Most corporations don't give a flying fuck what z gen thinks tbh. It's x gen and millennials who have the money/pull and them coming out when they start too react.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:32:25 AM
#146
Darmik posted...
Several of the claims against him was that he was inappropriate with underaged fans. Not 23 year olds.

I am aware of the claims, and they were unsubstantiated. A majority of the accusations were they got an unsolicited "hug" from the guy and didn't like it. You should be free to tell someone you don't want a hug of course, but this isn't something you should try to weaponize and get them fired over and imply predatory behavior over...it's a fucking hug. People hug each other without any sexual intentions literally all the damn time.

I brought up 23 because apparently Vic is dating a 23 yr old. Implying you like 23 yr olds isn't evidence you like underage girls. Hell, according to Tinder literally everyone and their dog age 18-60 wants to fuck 21-24 yr olds, men are just too ashamed or chicken shit to admit it.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 12:12:09 AM
#139
Darmik posted...
Err he's directing GOTG3?

Oh shit, he is. Good for him. He was one of the ones who had the most frivolous accusations against him.

lol at bringing up Vic Mignogna. Dude still can't help but looking like a total creep with young girls.

Translation: An older man with an attractive young woman triggers me because I'm a salty incel and I don't understand women so I think every woman who is attracted to older men must be attracted to them for superficial reasons!

Vic is a solid looking guy for his age and the woman he is with seems visibly happy to be with him and she is 23, which is more than old enough to be deciding who she can date/fuck.

Guys like you who act like young women are morons and can't date older men without the older men "manipulating" them is pretty much high key misogynistic. 23 is a woman. You are perpetuating the stereotype that young women are too immature/stupid to have sexual agency over who they decide to sleep with/date even well past legal adult age...just stop.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 11:59:01 PM
#137
Tyranthraxus posted...
Here's a video for you to watch that covers the subject extensively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8

If all you want is "everyone's definition" it's in the first few minutes

So the person in the bathtub basically agrees with my definition of it basically being public opinion/mob mentality used to cancel people?

You could have just said so without needing to try and push an hour and 40 min vid on me...which I'm definately not watching close to the entirety of.

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TopicThe US is currently leading the world in
MajesticFerret
06/22/21 11:52:41 PM
#46
PIG_B0SS posted...
COVID deaths
gun violence deaths
police brutality deaths
and losing wars

The rest are legit, but the last one is a pretty ridiculous take.

The only "war" we truly lost was Vietnam. I'm not sure what our goal in Iraq was, but I'm sure we stole our fair share in oil to compensate for our losses, so the wealthy people who started that war probably chock it up as a win.

Plus, historically, most other world powers have lost far more wars just from virtue of being much older nations.

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TopicIKEA Under Fire for Fried Chicken, Watermelon Menu Items for Juneteenth
MajesticFerret
06/22/21 11:47:17 PM
#85
The entire basis of soul food is it was what was food during slave times and in some cases slightly post slave times when they were still highly limited in quality food items they could afford and of course, slave owners didn't feed them expensive cuisine so many black people ate similar stuff during and slightly post slavery.

So technically all Soul Foods are kinda racist and stem from slavery...

What I do know though, is that Fried Chicken, watermelon, and Mac n' Cheese are all top tier food items while meatloaf and corn bread are trash.

Plus, since when is Mac n' Cheese soul food? I don't know if they get to claim that one lol

I have no reason to believe some swiss company intentionally released an offensive menu and they say black people contributed to the menu...

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if black people that worked for IKEA did infact pick these items...because they are fucking delicious...and all soul food is literally derived from cuisine they ate during tumultuous times so cornbread, grits, and a lot of other items are racist too if you're going down that route.

Tl;Dr: Fried Chicken, watermelon, and Mac n' cheese are delicious and we need to do away with the racist cliche of black people disproportionately liking these foods when EVERYONE likes these foods. It kinda means the racist people who guilt tripped them for liking such foods won.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/22/21 10:00:33 PM
#76
Proto_Spark posted...
But the point is you can't jump over the hurdles because of racism. you aren't being handicapped by your own lack of skills, the system (ie. the guys who broke your legs) are stopping you from succeeding.

When some people start with their legs broken because of racist actions, the people who don't have broken legs are going to do much better at the track meet.

You need to isolate what is actually racist, because that lets you solve the problem. Track and field is not racist even if the people who broke your leg are, just like school isn't inherently racist, even if having lower income parents might be attributed to their race, which could make performing well in school harder. Calling everything and all institutions racist actually becomes counter productive at this point, because you can't fix literally everything and it's largely just not true.

The one thing I know is certain, is educated people are disproportionately more likely to succeed in life and school is the one thing that is free where working hard and smart gives you disproportionately high chance of success. It all goes downhill after school.

One of America's biggest problems is we undervalue education culturally (example, movies where kids normalize it as a joke and mock being smart or nerdy, America having such a high drop out rate when these kids are shooting themselves in the foot but don't see it that way), I don't think pushing that school systems and society as a whole is rigged against you is what you should teach aspiring young adults, especially when the ones most likely to take it to heart really should be staying in school the most.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:43:18 PM
#73
ZMythos posted...
This is misleading at best and a lie at worse.

Most of a school's funding comes from taxes, specifically property taxes. The higher the taxes (AKA the better and wealthier the neighboorhood), the more funding the school/district gets.

Maybe 10% of a school's funding comes from the federal government, and maybe 20-30% comes from the state. And sure, underperforming schools will get more state/federal funding on average, but this does not in any way offset the difference between a school in a wealthy neighborhood and a school in a poor one.

The poorest areas are usually either metropolitan or rural. Rural schools are generally poor as well (I work at one) but are also smaller, so the funding gets dispersed to fewer people. Urban schools can be up to 8 times as large as rural schools and have to spread their funding much thinner. Suburban schools have none of these problems because they have upper/middle income houses supporting them.

Both rural and suburban schools have a disproportionately low black student population, while urban schools are predominately black. Of course, it's obvious to anybody who studied 10th grade history why this is, but few are willing to admit that the cause is systemic. But now we see that because urban schools have more students and most of the students are black, each student gets less out of any funding that school gets.

I agree with everything you just said.

I literally posted in like my very first paragraphs I don't have issues with citing funding differences as inequality issues...

Now why the hell isn't anyone refuting the literal pages of him implying absolutely everything else is also wrong with school systems?

Thats pretty damn important...arguably more important. Telling kids schools with more money have inmate advantage is common sense, telling kids all the things they are going to teach them are designed to only benefit the white middle class (literally verbatim what the dude freakin' said) is kinda problematic. Kinda sounds like it's going to incentivize POC that hate school to hate school even more and do even worse.

Giving people a free pass to have bad grades, especially a demographic struggling in this sense, is not a good idea.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:37:46 PM
#72
Proto_Spark posted...
This is not an article though.

Article, dissertation, paper...it's a point of reference for educational study, I jump between calling it several things, it really doesn't matter what it's called.

This is a lit review

It's not a lit review. That implies it's a review of other source material/a book.

from a Ph. D student,

Who is now a professor and probably hasn't changed his mind.

And it's being propped up by a government body as educational source material.

written 12 years ago.

If it's changed substantially in 12 yrs, let me know.

Its not written for the layperson.

Piss off with this, I write literal densely populated government articles on regulations that have a bunch of scientific subject matter for a living.

Nothing about this was too scientific too understand. This is heavily based in pseudo science and it is the writers burden to properly defend anything they say in the paper.

This is coming from a place of authority that you yourself can't even authorize.

If there's anything I misunderstood or took out of context, please tell me, and stop with the blanket statement bullshit.

And given you repeatedly say

I said it once, and it was for the most ridiculously worded sentence, not because it contained some profound meaning you need a PhD to understand.

This just seems like you found an old article

A government referenced educational source material, implying it is still very much so relevant.

Honestly, feel free to piss off and not post if "you don't understand the paper, I'm not going too/can't explain how you misinterpreted the paper, and I have absolutely no other source to provide you to clarify anything" is your end argument.

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TopicYeah, CRT is absolutely much more toxic than teaching kids racial sensitivity
MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:25:43 PM
#68
The Wheelman1 posted...
I aint reading all that wtf. Can i get the short version?

Sure, look at my last post from my wall of posts that summarizes everything the article says, but the reason I went into depth is some of the stuff he doesn't simply state, but if you read where I got it from it becomes more clear.

emblem boy posted...
Regarding post #1.

What would it take for you to say that the school system has policies that aren't fully inclusive and causes inconvenience to non-white people?

Examples, for one.

Your statement that it can't possibly be inconvenient to non white people because other countries have similar curriculum isn't really a strong one to me.

That's maybe 1/3rd of my argument at best.

1. Pretty much every school is everywhere is doing the same shit.
2. The fact that several demographics of minority are over performing the majority shows pretty clearly it is not a system that inherently favors whites above all else.
3. Really, only black people and to a lesser extent Hispanics are lagging behind. This seems to suggest it is less a white monolith issue and more a black and brown issue, but truthfully, lower income people regardless of color seem to do statistically worse in school, largely due to home issues, and the referenced demographics have more lower income people disproportionately.

Sometimes you can have a problem, but you are blaming the wrong institutions for the problem. Blaming ALL institutions for the problem doesn't do anyone any good. If EVERYTHING is racist, it kinda makes it impossible to pinpoint any problem because EVERYTHING is the problem. Minorities underperforming in school all things equalized, is more of an economic issue, with economic problems creating an unstable home being the overwhelming reason for these performance differences.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the core foundations of education itself.

There's more to school systems than just the fact they teach the same subject.

Again, other article does more than just imply funding differences between school is the problem. He argued the whole damn system (subjects taught, way school is handled and executed, etc.) Is the problem. And he's really vague about it... If you don't have concrete stuff to isolate to fix, you probably do more damage and good and that part of your theory should be tossed.

I'd think the claim is that the method in which students are offered AP class placement can be questioned.

In my school, if you performed well in the non-AP classes, they would jump you to AP and ANY student could go to the AP courses, and if you couldn't handle it, they'd fail you or bump you down to non-AP.

I have a mom who taught AP and non-AP and she would encourage kids who qualified for AP to go to AP (based on performance), but she said a lot of the kids not in AP simply would not be able to handle AP classes based on their non-AP performance.

I do not want to see exceptionally gifted students held back by non gifted students when we already live in a country that massively underperforms educationally because we cater too much to the lowest common denominator and we had plenty of diversity in my AP courses, so smart and dumb kids come in all shapes and sizes. I don't think AP courses or how they are offered has enough basis to be called racist in and of itself.

It's like being jumped in a back alley and having your legs broken by racists and then being told you can't jump over hurdles for track.

Jumping over tracks isn't inherently racist, even if perhaps what handicapped you is. The end result is still you can't jump over the hurdles without failing.

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