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| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/22/21 7:54:24 AM #238 | MrMallard posted... Her memory is being fucked up because she broke into a Federal building with the goal of confronting sitting members of the Senate. She allied herself with a group of people who showed up with guns, flex ties and a noose, who killed a man breaking into a federal building. This is a fair and nuanced take coolboy11 posted... we feeling bad for fascists now or metralo posted... I'm soooo glad this terrorist was shot and killed! These two posts are absolute garbage takes --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:23:17 PM #224 | Darklit_Minuet posted... I'm oversimplifying it because it is that simple. That big orange guy who keeps lying on twitter? Don't listen to him because it's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with 3 brain cells that he's lying. It gets more complicated when you realize that CNN and MSNBC and major political figures on the left often lie as well. Like damn near no one is always telling the truth. Damn even Trump sometimes told the truth believe it or not. At least you admitted that you are oversimplifying --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:21:45 PM #222 | Bio1590 posted... Funny that the dude who was eagerly calling Texans pussies for being scared of the storm in February is suddenly "worried" about people eagerly calling a terrorist a terrorist. I never called Texans pussies. I said a lot of them sound like they are freaking out and need to learn basic winter survival skills. Your whole post is garbage and functions off of a lot of bad faith interpretations. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:20:23 PM #221 | Darklit_Minuet posted... My parents could do it if they wanted to, I just don't see the benefit in arguing with them about it because their beliefs are not harmful and affect nobody but themselves. Ignorance is bliss and if they're happier believing in it, then all the power to them. Yeah you're way oversimplifying the issue. I guarantee you believe in a lot more falsehoods than you realize. Fact checking everything is exhausting. No one is immune from any sort of bias or narrow perspective. Also, a lot of people are just generally stupid and/or were not given a very good education that enabled them to fact check very well. Yes fact checking is a thing you can have varying levels of skill at and it can vary quite a bit by topic. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:18:23 PM #219 | cjsdowg posted... Fuck yes. If you think losing an election is any where close to the shit that black people have to deal with daily. Yes you can't have an issue. While black people voting rights are being stripped away she is complaining because she lost when her people (Republicans not white people) ad teh got damn advantage with things like the EC. So yes Fuck her and her bitching. And like I said Black people did not storm the Capitol , because we did not. Holy false equivalence Batman. I never said the issues were the same or that white people's problems are losing an election. Get a grip dude. You always sound like an insane bad faith leftist, because that is exactly what you are. A lot of BLM members participated in riots. You can't handwave that. Although it is certainly a great deal more justifiable than storming the capitol it isn't exactly a clean thing to do. You have no right to stand from an ivory tower and cast judgment on such a thing. It's getting even worse because now BLM is protesting any and all police killings no matter the details. Minneapolis is just nothing, but constant protests now. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:14:46 PM #217 | TheVipaGTS posted... yea stop comparing their issues with legitimate issues. they lost an election then cried about it and tried to violently change the results. that's not an issue that needs to addressed like, jesus christ dude...and if you mean their issue is that the GOP is terrible and brainwashed them...they've been doing that for decades and didn't create terrorists (at this scale) until now. The issue is people not being well represented by their governments and being deeply distrustful of the election process. This primes them to believe the big lie that the election was fully rigged and that they have the president's approval to storm the capitol. And yeah as you pointed out, the funny thing is that it is mostly just their own party leaders who are lying to them. Then we get to the problem that being Republican is way more than a political ideology, but is a cultural identity and you can see that it isnt so easy for someone to make the shift. You need to do something about all these white people that are feeling screwed over. The whole way America works is just stupid. We have two parties and a deep urban and rural divide. At the end of the day, I don't think anyone is going to fix this country by engaging in culture war BS and taking glee at calling Babbitt a terrorist, but not consistently applying that label to non white persons. No one should be calling someone a terrorist with glee in any situation. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:08:54 PM #215 | Darklit_Minuet posted... My parents among all my other family members are religious. By using the power of the internet I found out that what they believe in is most likely fake and thus I do not believe in it. I don't deny it to them because that would just be starting a petty argument, but if I can do it, why can't she? Because not everyone is as "enlightened" as you. Clearly your parents can't do it and you don't make it your business to convince them otherwise. It sounds like Babbitt was surrounded by like minded people so there was no one to push her towards anything else. Just an echo chamber of like minded people, but keep in mind that damn near all of us mostly surround ourselves with an echo chamber. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 9:06:56 PM #214 | t5yvxc posted... This weak ass argument can literally be used on literally any criminal and despicable act. Including 9/11. Holy crap you go way off the deep end. You even played the Hitler and Charles Manson card. Absolute garbage post and comes nowhere close to addressing what I said. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 8:31:44 PM #212 | Darklit_Minuet posted... Ever met someone with a cellphone and access to the internet? People that have those can easily fact check People who are deeply brainwashed suck at fact checking. Honestly, I don't think the average person is all that good at fact checking You can't just fact check your way out of a cult. Especially when your friends and family members are into it too and call you crazy for denying the cult. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 8:00:57 PM #209 | Darklit_Minuet posted... I really don't get this argument you keep making. There is quite a bit you aren't getting here. A lot of these people don't have basic critical thinking skills and/or are surrounded by people with the same belief systems as them. Getting "fooled" is way easier than you think. People like me and you have a liberal bubble so we don't come across this stuff. Ever meet someone who was in a cult? I had a close family member who was in a cult and it was tough getting them out. Some people are just vulnerable to this stuff. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 7:06:23 PM #198 | TheVipaGTS posted... i can acknowledge that the larger problem exists while still calling her a terrorist. Trump, McConnel, all those people have poisoned others who didn't commit terroristic acts. She is a grown adult who knew what she was doing. I can feel sympathy for the situation while acknowledging that the person who committed terroristic acts is a terrorists. Tbh, you've never come off as anyone other than someone who uses the term terrorist in a factual way. I find your statements generally reasonable although not lining up 100% with my own. You're one of the very few ITT who has approached this in good faith --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 7:00:25 PM #195 | TheVipaGTS posted... But we're not repeating any mistake here. She was a terrorist, committed a terroristic act, and we are calling her a terrorist. What's the issue? Listen to Sam Wilson's speech at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. You say terrorist like that gives you a pass to dismiss any and all issues people like her could be dealing with. Babbitt is a symptom of a much larger problem and people like her aren't going away. You got to figure out a way to make it work. And yeah I'm aware that people like Mitch McConnell operate in pure bad faith opposition and will stonewall any congressional action that he can. As far as mistakes of the past, all that patriotic BS and casting Arab looking people as villains in tv shows and movies didn't really help anything whatsoever. It's apparently obvious that we are kind of going down that path right now. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:56:26 PM #194 | Bishop9800 posted... GUYS STOP!!!! Why do people make such blatant bad faith posts like this? I pointed this out and people act like I'm butt hurt about it. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Fetuses have NO rights as a human being. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:55:20 PM #253 | CalypsoDoom posted... I personally wouldn't feel anything but annoyed about the cost if I had to get one. Yeah I think you're missing the reality that no one for sure knows how they're going to react if they get one. I've heard many stories of women who thought they'd be fine, but were not and vice versa. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Fetuses have NO rights as a human being. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:44:23 PM #250 | RedJackson posted... I met a girl who told me she never felt the same after she had an abortion, I dated another girl later who also told me the same This. Abortion is not at all a light decision. Women who try to frame it as just a bunch of cells or it isn't even human or it's just a medical procedure are being incredibly disingenuous. Of course I believe women should have choice here, but it is in no way a light decision. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:29:42 PM #188 | asdf8562 posted... This totally made up scenario really happened/s It did happen tho so good luck. It's hilarious seeing people try to act like left wing people have zero problematic elements to their party whatsoever. Like yeah left wing ideology is generally much better than right wing ideology. There's a ton of absolute garbage on the right and most Republicans operate in complete bad faith in Congress. Doesn't change the fact that left leaning people can be problematic too. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:27:53 PM #187 | Conception616 posted... This TommyG user has a REALLY stupid gimmick, he is like the low IQ political version of the user completeboy, who has this phony moral compass. He even says corny things like you said the B word. No I just point out basic inconsistencies which honestly isn't very hard, because no one is morally or politically pure. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 6:27:13 PM #186 | NatsuSama posted... This entire post one big mental gymnastics. Uh what? I never said Muslim was a race nor would that be anything close to a gotcha if I said it was. Wtf are you even saying? And yes people at my left leaning school denounced all usage of the term terrorist, but generally went "no comment" when 9/11 was brought up or deflected to the USAs meddling in the ME to make 9/11 look like nothing in comparison which is not a false thing to say. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 5:43:35 PM #179 | CableZL posted... The term "terrorist" wasn't denounced following 9/11. The act of calling any brown-skinned person a terrorist because of the events of 9/11 was denounced. No it was. My extremely left leaning university made it a point in many different classes to talk about how the term terrorist is typically only used by those in power towards those who don't. Technically that is the definition of terrorism as it's defining state sponsored political violence versus non state sponsored political violence. Also, there were lots of examples like how the founding fathers were technically terrorists depending on who you ask. Basically, a lot of talk to really denounce any sort of usage of the term terrorist and now you are really seeing the term make a comeback. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 5:40:21 PM #178 | TheVipaGTS posted... I am being consistent. I don't call all white people terrorists. just the ones who are terrorists. like this person. Can you recognize that many left leaning people are inconsistent about this especially in the example I provided? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:36:43 PM #172 | ButteryMales posted... @TommyG663513 What was your point? That those people were spouting off opinions of the establishment left as opposed to the progressive left. Do you understand the difference? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:36:00 PM #171 | TheVipaGTS posted... But we're factually calling a terrorist a terrorist. I get what point you're trying to make, but this isn't the right situation to try and make that point. She is a terrorist. Some people call her a hero, that in turn causes people to emphasize that she is a terrorist...its not a difficult concept. Here's another question Remember that seemingly white man who committed a mass shooting in Colorado a few months ago? Remember when they released an image of him being arrested and he looked like a white male so there were tons of tweets going out talking about how dangerous white men are and they are the new terrorists? Even Kamala Harris's daughter tweeted out about how dangerous white men are and they're the greatest terrorist threat in the country. Then the shooters name is released the next day and he has a super middle eastern sounding name and the guy is an immigrant from Syria. All of a sudden, all of the white terrorist comments get deleted and people pretend it never happened. So yes left wing people after they denounced the term terrorist in the years following 9/11 are now doing what they can to apply the term to white people and avoid applying it to anyone else. All I ask for is a little consistency here. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:29:12 PM #168 | TheVipaGTS posted... but...she is a terrorist. And there's a difference between factually calling someone a terrorist and having this eager glee in calling someone a terrorist. Do you think the capitol rioters were the type to factually call someone a terrorist or the type to eagerly call someone a terrorist? This whole topic is just one giant shining example of horseshoe theory. A lot of people ITT sound way more like alt righters than they realize. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:19:10 PM #158 | ButteryMales posted... I don't know. @TommyG663513 said they know you and your alignment. The point Your head --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:18:32 PM #157 | Doom_Art posted... I'm not quite sure how that's comparable to what's happening here. I'm a full on socialist dude --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:15:23 PM #154 | BeantownHero posted... who said I wasnt eager? A racist terrorist absolutely got what she deserved. I was happy when osama was shot in the face too. Did you shed tears for him as well? I was being sarcastic and you responded that you are super eager which proves my point that people are in fact very eager to use the term terrorist. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:14:43 PM #152 | Will_VIIII posted... And has been in detail, for a couple days now. Uh what? Some of you guys need it said to you over and over again that your worldview is extremely black and white --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 4:00:31 PM #142 | Doom_Art posted... Please explain Ever see a rural white person call someone from a ME country a terrorist before? Now out aside the factual or non factual usage of the term. Based on your understanding of the rural white person stereotype would you assume they are using the term terrorist factually or moreso that they are eager to use the term and get off on calling others terrorists or even calling themselves a patriot. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:54:37 PM #137 | Will_VIIII posted... It's as eager as stating 2+2=4. Lol at anyone who calls me maga. I guarantee I am farther left than you --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:54:10 PM #136 | BeantownHero posted... a god damn moron endugled her racist confirmation bias and got clipped in the neck as result Oh wow this post totally isn't eager at all lol Just a person making a factual statement with zero emotion behind it --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:53:28 PM #133 | Doom_Art posted... i don't get why it matters if someone is eager to call a terrorist a terrorist You seriously need it explained to you why the term terrorist could be problematic and how someone displaying an eagerness to use it is likely using it in a problematic way? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:51:57 PM #129 | soulunison2 posted... Lol shes a terrorist and someones having a melts about it lol Yeah this post doesn't at all sound eager lol --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:50:08 PM #127 | DarthAragorn posted... this bitch was a terrorist This does read as being quite eager to use the T word as well as the B word --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:49:38 PM #126 | Doom_Art posted... Since when do you care about sexism lol Uh what? What reason would you have to assume I have feelings one way or the other? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:44:12 PM #124 | sktgamer_13dude posted... That literally is your argument. I never said my feelings were hurt. I simply stated how eager people are to call her terrorist. Then people proceed to eagerly call her a terrorist. I only ask for sympathy in so much that she was fooled and you should feel some sympathy for the people Trump fools. You don't need to give them a world of sympathy, but a small sympathetic feeling is more than enough. Then people respond with variations of "That *insert vulgar term or slur for women* was a terrorist and got what she deserved" Then I point out that people are obviously eager to call her a terrorist and I get accused of having the meltdown. Like damn people really? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Religion continues to get kicked to the curb in America. Fading fast. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:12:44 PM #59 | Phantom36 posted... Sounds like a good thing at first glance. Politics itself are like a religion to many as well. Perhaps even moreso than religion ever was funny enough. But yeah I know way too many atheists who turn atheism into a religion all on its own --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:09:07 PM #118 | sktgamer_13dude posted... Coming from the person who acts like an expert and knows nothing. You need to learn basic reading comprehension and/or learn how to avoid making a straw man argument Are you capable of making an argument without attacking someone? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:07:46 PM #117 | DarthAragorn posted... this bitch was a terrorist Ok now you're being sexist about it --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:05:05 PM #114 | sktgamer_13dude posted... Dude you dont know what hes saying. You keep devolving into ad hominem attacks and cursing at me. You need to learn how to have a discussion like an adult --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:04:03 PM #113 | Sackgurl posted... are riots the same as an armed attempt to take over the seat of US government and murder everyone inside Yeah not every single person who stormed the capitol had violent intentions and not everyone who rioted after George Floyd had anything to do with BLM. They're not equivalent at all, but there's a lot of things those two cases of civil unrest had in common. Also, George Floyd rioters did attack federal property in numerous states so... Also, the white house did require fortification after the George Floyd riots.... --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:01:51 PM #111 | ButteryMales posted... Ruvan22 Yeah basically. I'm not sure what you are, but you seem incredibly unpleasant. If you're more than content with Biden as president then you lean more establishment than progressive. This isn't a hard thing to figure out. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 3:00:35 PM #109 | sktgamer_13dude posted... Terrorists get shit info all the time. I never said their actions don't have consequences. You can both have sympathy for someone for being fooled and feel they should face consequences. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 2:59:11 PM #108 | cjsdowg posted... Fuck that shit. This stuff really happens to black people. And we are not storming DC. And if we did sure as fuck Republicans would not be defending black people. So fuck her, and fuck any other cons who feel just so bad. What a garbage post. So because black people have an issue white people can't also have an issue? It's also really stupid to act like black people aren't storming the capitol when there were tons of riots after George Floyd. Both groups have issues and both groups need to be addressed. For the record, minority problems should be higher priority than majority problems at the moment, but you don't need to dismiss either and you can work on both at the same time. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 2:00:00 PM #98 | ButteryMales posted... How do you know where they align? This is so hypocritical after you misread "both sides" as an assumption of your alignment. Do you have any idea wtf you are even talking about? Posters ITT are not all a bunch of random people I've never interacted with before. Many of them are in fact establishment left types rather than progressives. I know this because I've seen their arguments stated many times in the past. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 1:51:08 PM #95 | NatsuSama posted... So it's just you getting butthurt that a white woman is being called a terrorist then. No I'm trying to point out a lesson here people learned about Muslims post 9/11 that isn't being afforded to others. There is almost always some other tension behind calling someone a terrorist. Remember all the angry white guys who threw the term terrorist around post 9/11? They sounded a little eager to call people terrorists didn't they? That is what a lot of liberals sound like these days. Especially when you see many prominent left wing political figures talk of white men as the greatest terrorist threat to this country. Like damn people don't even try to hide this stuff. Maybe try to avoid the term terrorist when you can should be the general lesson. It is a very loaded and problematic word. Did anyone see Sam Wilson's speech at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier? There is a lot of truth to that speech and his criticism of the term terrorist. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 1:47:40 PM #94 | ButteryMales posted... Bernie Sanders is nowhere near what the United States considers center. He's socialist dude. I'm speaking of people ITT who align more with establishment left than progressive left. I'm well aware Bernie Sanders is very much on the left of any political spectrum especially in the US. What is your point? I'm nowhere near the center politically so attempting to label me as a both sides type is just factually wrong. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 1:45:57 PM #93 | TheVipaGTS posted... which is fine, but once they do that they're not victims. You seem to be taking offense with people not feeling sympathy for her and calling her a terrorist, but would you feel the same way about those people who flew airplanes into the towers 20 years ago? and before you say "she didn't do anything like that"...yea because she was stopped before she could. she WANTED to. I'm not taking offense to people calling her a terrorist. There is a difference between factually calling someone a terrorist and using the word terrorist five different times in your post to describe her. It's like I get it lol And yeah good example.om the 9/11 hijackers. I do feel sorry for them in the sense that they weren't exactly sending out Bin Laden to carry out the act. Those hijackers were pawns just there to be used by the people above them. And yeah they also did something pretty evil. Again, you are allowed to both feel sympathy for someone and feel they should be held accountable for their actions --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 12:47:30 PM #89 | TheVipaGTS posted... I mean...the same can be said for nearly all terrorists. Most people in terrorists groups are technically victims of rhetoric, but are you gonna feel sympathy for them? of course not...Babbitt is no different. I definitely feel sympathy for a lot of people who get recruited into terrorism, because they are mostly vulnerable groups. Of course of they commit violent acts then justice should be served and all that, but I can both want them to be held accountable and feel sorry for them. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 12:46:25 PM #87 | ButteryMales posted... That was an accurate summary of your post. Bernie Sanders is left too but actually center. I'm nowhere near what the United States considers center. I'm a full on socialist dude. What you label as "both sides" is my also holding some of the establishment left accountable. I may agree with them way more politically, but I'm not gonna blindly wave my left wing flag at any and all action my side takes. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
| Topic | Domestic terrorist's family says they're sad that her memory is being fucked up. |
| TommyG663513 06/21/21 12:45:00 PM #85 | sktgamer_13dude posted... She tried to overthrow a legitimate election and her family is trying to say she didnt. Problem is she was told it wasn't legitimate by people she trusted who were in major authority positions. Labeling things as terrorism does get a little murky when the head of the country is telling you that he supports you And yeah I'm not gonna say I agree with everything her family has done. I just feel bad for them and that is it. You telling me to fuck off is completely uncalled for and devoid of any class --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 |
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