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When I read the joke about Banjo Tooie in the game, I probably misread it for a split second and then caught myself. When I saw the actual sequel, I don't think I ever made that mistake.

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It was almost 50/50 for a while. It's still probably anyone's game. I'd be interested in hearing opinions from Tooie fans.

Nanis23 posted...

I only played them once and it was like 10 years ago so I don't remember much
But I remember feeling that "bigger is not always better" about Tooie levels
So Kazooie it is

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is why I liked Kazooie more. It's "tighter." I didn't realize it at the time because this was in the middle of the "more hours = more good" fad

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I remember everyone preferring Tooie when it came out but I always preferred Kazooie. For some reason I think public opinion currently agrees with me that Kazooie is better but I'm not positive, hence the poll

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only one i've heard of is sherlock holmes moriarty and i don't know anything about him (i think he's the bad guy) so, uh, colin moriarty i guess

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What's sphere break?

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As of an hour ago, someone claiming to be his manager says he's still alive on life support

https://twitter.com/XXL/status/1380365103476969472

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mnkboy907 posted...

Go over to the Switch board and make a topic asking if the next Zelda game should have a black Link and just see what kinds of responses you get.

That is literally a different thing than the inclusion of a new black character and that would obviously be pandering to the woke crowd

pjbasis posted...

It's true but it's a very short distance from making the assumption that if the main character(s) are female or black, it is because the creator is trying to be woke.

No it isn't. Everyone knows when you're trying to be woke and when you're not. That's my whole point. Everyone puts the same protagonists in the woke and unwoke buckets

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You're trying to change what I'm arguing. All I said is no one calls a game political purely because there's a woman or a black person. That is true.

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He cares more about the suffering of black people than anyone else, making him racist. Valid critique

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I concede that if you include a trans character people will call your game political no matter what. We obviously have a long way to go there

Also I watched the jax ending. I guarantee that the thing people objected to was not deleting the slave trade.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

You also literally are saying that Mortal Kombat isn't controversial

no one is saying "why are there blacks and women in mortal kombat"

we are talking about the mere presence of diversity causing problems

Paratroopa1 posted...

And if you think the anti-SJW crowd isn't constantly getting riled up by the inclusion of female characters in video games

how come the entire anti-SJW crowd agrees on WHICH female characters to get riled up about, and which not to? it's clearly not JUST that there's a woman in my video game

Kenri posted...

damn i wish i was this ignorant of the dumb shit people complain about

find me someone who doesn't immediately get laughed at or worse when they say "why are there black people in my street fighter game" or whatever

no one goes "i wish these games were less diverse" except crazy people who everyone agrees are crazy

Paratroopa1 posted...

Yeah, this also happened. People get mad about some very telling shit. And it's most certainly more than a few of them.

actually this would definitely fall under the "crazy racists everyone would laugh at," hth!

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haha

but to be fair that is not a response to the presence of black people, how many other games has he appeared in?

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I mean you're here unironically saying that "people are fine with Celeste" and hahahaha hoo boy, first time on the internet eh?

I mean it's possible that there was some controversy I missed in Celeste other than that one time OneAngryGamer zoomed in on a 30px-by-20px trans flag in some promotional art and flipped out and everyone, including the anti-SJW crowd, laughed at him. When were people not fine with Celeste?

Point still stands for every single other game I mentioned, including the entire genre of sports games.

you have to think like some internet rando who thinks that a game having a female main character... is political

No one says a game is political just because the main character is female. This is a misrepresentation of what people say, except for a very small number of crazy sexists who get laughed at by SJWs and anti-SJWs alike

Paratroopa1 posted...

dealing with any kind of social issues at all is political

Yeah this is a position people seem to actually have. I'd say that the thing that makes it political is the scale of the social issue. Omori deals with things on the level of the social circle, not on the level of society as a whole or even the HOA. I wouldn't call that political.

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mnkboy907 posted...

Does it have any gay people, black people, or strong independent women? If yes then it's political and only pandering to the woke mob.

Counterpoint: people are fine with every SF game, every Mortal Kombat game, every FF game, every sports game, every GTA game, every Watch Dogs game, every Metroid game, Portal, Celeste, etc etc etc

No one complains about literally all diversity except for openly racist crazy people.

Everyone who accepts that "forced diversity" is real will put approximately the same set of games in the "forced diversity," "unforced diversity," and "no diversity" buckets. If they weren't responding to the same thing (which they call "forced diversity") there would be significant controversy over which media to put in which bucket. But people pretty much universally come to the same conclusions independently.

Evillordexdeath posted...

There is not.

I think it is true that Sunny's shut-in tendencies stop him from helping his friends in the way that other characters like Kel do, so that's something that you could take from it, but it's not the focus of the story by any means. The real emphasis of that part of the story is on the importance of facing your own problems instead of hiding from them.

Omori is definitely not an explicitly political story. There's really no discussion of politics in the game unless you try to take a metaphorical interpretation of what happens to make it relate to politics, which I personally would consider to be a stretch.

Yeah I basically agree with all this. But I think the fact that Sunny and Aubrey are in a bad place after withdrawing from their friends and family, while Kel and Hero are doing well while maintaining their bonds and trying to be good friends, is a pretty major part of the message. I think the game is saying that not only should you face your problems, you should get help from your existing friends and family.

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mnkboy907 posted...

Does it have any gay people, black people, or strong independent women? If yes then it's political and only pandering to the woke mob.

shut up idiot that's not how that works

Evillordexdeath posted...

There is not.

I think it is true that Sunny's shut-in tendencies stop him from helping his friends in the way that other characters like Kel do, so that's something that you could take from it, but it's not the focus of the story by any means. The real emphasis of that part of the story is on the importance of facing your own problems instead of hiding from them.

Omori is definitely not an explicitly political story. There's really no discussion of politics in the game unless you try to take a metaphorical interpretation of what happens to make it relate to politics, which I personally would consider to be a stretch.

Yeah this is my takeaway. Plus look at how everyone else is doing. Kel and Hero are doing fine, they have their family and other friends. They maintained their healthy social bonds. Sunny and Aubrey are not doing fine, because they turned their backs on their friends. When they reconnect, they start doing better.

I think the contrast between Kel's family and everyone else's is supposed to be a major part of the message. Kel's the one who is trying to be a good friend even when it's hard.

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this internet person is claiming that omori is a political story

the message is that you shouldn't withdraw from your friends and family in times of tragedy

there is no mention of politics at all right

i'm not being willfully obtuse right

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someone didn't watch the video and made a shitty little comment without thinking for 3 seconds about hiyoko becoming a better character after getting development

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bwburke94 posted...

Apparently, the other victim was supposed to be Fuyuhiko.

Here's a really cool video that explains why this probably would have led to a better story overall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqdwVFIyC6w

edit: also mikan clearly killed hiyoko with a scalpel, that is the least weird and bad part of the case

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What does blue pilling mean, tell you conventional wisdom that's false?

The battle system is great, knocking enemies down over and over again and then using an all-out attack is a fun way to resolve literally every random encounter. The differences between the elements are very meaningful. Kanji *feels* like a lightning guy, and Yukiko *feels* like a fire girl. Enemies' weaknesses and resistances make sense.

The writing is good too, very natural. They sound like actual real high school students. Mitsuru, Akihiko, and Shinji are good characters in P3. Also so is Yusuke in P5. There is so much good voice acting.

The massive high school section never feels padded. Despite being 40 hours long it's as efficient with your time as Undertale, LISA, Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass, and OMORI. Anyone who has a problem with Persona just doesn't like menu-based gameplay. Those long stretches of days where you barely see any new SLink conversations are fun. I love how the game uncritically rewards you for telling people exactly what they want to hear too, not a missed opportunity at all.

3's story is extremely memorable. I definitely remember even a single thing that happened in that whole-ass entire game except for Mitsuru healing the final boss.

Don't just look at the pretty colors for 15 minutes and listen to the soundtrack. You should play it. The massive time investment is worth it.

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why would the customer say you are in the wrong

the way this story is framed, it's obvious that the customer is in the wrong

this sounds like selective reporting, are you sure you gave us every single piece of relevant information

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Mac Arrowny posted...

I was under the impression that PS1 emulation is in a worse place than PS2 emulation.

On a laptop, I was able to play Spyro 2 and FF7 with no problems that I could see. PS2 games don't run at 60fps so I can't play them. YMMV of course

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are you the radix from speeddemosarchive or does that person not post on b8

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ps1 emulation is really good now you should just do that

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heh "intense vacation" is a good name for it

Earthshaker posted...

*Sees olive hate*
*Sees apathy to like for pineapples.*

Okay, you're allowed your opinion for pineapples, but I will honestly knife someone if they take away my black olive and feta cheese pizzas.

eat your weird gross pizza all you want you gross weirdo

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I stick crazyisgood in a gap and tear it open

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bumping to brag more about getting a moderation overturned

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*clicks See Results*

maybe i should play crosscode

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I like pepperoni pineapple. Pepperoni is one of my favorite pizza toppings, and the pineapple is such a good contrast.

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Only played Omori but it's literally the most moving piece of media I've ever experienced. I spent the last like 4 hours crying nonstop.

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can someone explain what is mindblowing about persona 3

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I forgot how good Techno de Chocobo is. The music in this game in general is so good but Techno de Chocobo in particular stands out.

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awww that's adorable

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octopus is a mass noun, like rice

you know, 16 grains of rice. 16 legs of octopus. same thing

2 rices means 2 types of rice, 2 octopuses means 2 types of octopus

etc

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Drakeryn posted...

hmm

I think I would go singular for both. "I ate three-fourths of an orange" and "I ate point seven five of an orange" both sound better to me

"I ate point seven five of an orange" sounds better than "I ate point seven five oranges?" Very interesting, not at all how I hear it.

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um trump actually exists

so palpatine

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singular (N = 1): 1 noun
plural (N is an integer, != 1): N nouns
fractional (0<N<1): N of a noun
half-y (N = 0.5): half a noun

i ate one apple, two bananas, 3/4 of an orange, half a watermelon, negative six grapes, and 1 3/4 cherries

when n=.5 you can also use the fractional number

and when you express the fraction as a decimal, you can use the plural form. "I ate .75 apples" sounds better than "I ate .75 of an apple" but "I ate 3/4 oranges" sounds worse than "I ate 3/4 of an orange"

hell yeah language

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well then in that case:

mass destruction
last surprise
when the moon's reaching out stars
tokyo daylight

4's music is only a 9.8/10, not shoji meguro's best work imo

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What does "recurring" mean here? Are the battle themes recurring?

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i just switch to spanish

one octopus, two pulpos

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NeatoAnAccount posted...

There's no implied threat or anything. You get the vibe that the girl would be all "what are you gay come on fuck me" etc but there's no indication that she's forcing him to do anything. Plus the girls are hot, which matters because it's 100,000x times more creepy when someone conventionally unattractive isn't letting you go. You are scarier when you are unattractive, so the same actions cause more distress, and therefore are worse, when you are ugly. Sorry, I don't make the rules.

Moderation overturned! The system works!


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azuarc posted...

I thought of like 4 answers before entering the thread, and they're all doubled already. So, uh...

KT Tunstall - Black Horse and the Cherry Tree

crazyisgood posted...

Ylvis - The Fox (what does the fox say)

i get to double my 2 favorite songs in the thread so far :D

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oh man gonna listen after work

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Xiahou Shake posted...

Outer Wilds

JackMan posted...

Xiahou Shake posted...
Outer Wilds

bryans7 posted...

Outer Wilds, The Witness, and it's been awhile but Fez.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Came into say Outer Wilds but actually I played Bugsnax more recently so thats the true answer.

VintageGin posted...

Outer Wilds. Before that, probably a VR tech demo or The Witness.

Sounds like I should play Outer Wilds

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reddit.com/r/second

fun game, seems very in line with b8's interests

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Probably Omori. Just the depth of emotion in the game, and the different art styles during the horror parts. I was crying for the last several hours nonstop, and intermittently throughout.

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Leonhart4 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6872-which-final-fantasy-title-is-your-all-time-favorite

heh cool, there's a lot of surprising little things in there

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pjbasis posted...

Wow you really think your own perspective is hot shit

(I do too game respect game)

heh you're right, I definitely come across like I think I'm way smarter than you. But I think it's because I'm one of the only people ITT who never developed an emotional connection to the game so I'm being this big heartless logic lord about all these flaws that don't bother y'all because they make it feel like FF7. Also I've been "stuck" on a part of the game that I kind of dislike lol

skullbone posted...

On the Switch version you can turn off random battles so you probably should have started there!

edit: Actually you might be able to do it on PS4 too? Just press L3 + R3 and you should see a little Buster sword with a line through it letting you know they're turned off.

heh you're right, I should turn off random encounters. Good on Square for including quality-of-life improvements like that. I know people do low-level runs and stuff so I should be fine. I'm emulating it on PS1 so I guess I'll use a gameshark code.

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how common an opinion is "ff8 is the best one"

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Seanchan posted...

I also started on FF6

....

The new sprites...are going to take some getting used to

I googled them and holy moley

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