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What little plot it has, anyway

World of Light not having a subspace style plot bothered me less than them introducing it with a massive cutscene that implied it would have one. But then you play the game and it's one of like, three cutscenes total.

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damn, I wasn't really planning on picking up a new console but now my hands are tied

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Haven't had much of anything to say about the games so far but I'm readin'. I'd like to finish my prediction too but motivation comes and goes. usually goes lol.

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you had me at "good DKC2 romhack"

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Doki Doki Literature Club

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Yes

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The bosses are great. The rest of the mode exists. I didn't think any of the spirits were that dumb except Dr. Wily

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I've heard a lot of people talk up Bojack here but I don't think I've seen it do well in anything.

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Started my push-ups again, it's not very much but I'm glad I can still do ten after I'd stopped. I could never get past that though which was demotivating.

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uhh, HIM maybe? I mean if he just goes in for a brawl then he loses but he has a ridiculous range of powers

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He's a rock star, he does what he wants. Like stealing Popeye's spinach away with telekinesis.

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greengravy294 posted...

Opening a chest in legend of zelda

more later, but this deserves many noms

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Tried keeping up a small routine for a while, after a month or so I lost motivation and dropped it though. Might try again anyway.

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there are a couple people here who have control over wind, like Rainbow Dash and maybe Kaladin if his powers made any sense, think team mid tier has it covered

also Harry can shield charm people and I think it's totally in character for him to start by casting that on everyone

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what's Bigby's answer to Raz sneaking over while he's tossing people around and psychonaut-ing him

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I didn't actually finish my prediction yet... I thought there was going to be more time, lol

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Hades

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I have no idea how Gambit's energy charging stacks up here, except that he probably won't be able to use it on Hades directly because it takes him longer to use it on bigger targets. But is there anything stopping Hades from just... stepping on him? His durability doesn't seem that insane and Hades is pretty fast.

https://gfycat.com/excellentrecentfrillneckedlizard

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dear Mario Galaxy 2, don't give your final boss an incredible setup and music track and then have it last ten seconds

like hot tub Bowser was dumb but you could always tell it was going to be dumb, this one just throws the world's most upsetting fastball at you

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wasn't expecting Hades to win when I nominated him, neat

I'd be down for another one of these, looking past the tiering and a few really silly arguments some of which were made by me oops this was a lot of fun

one suggestion I'd make is for broken tier (if there is one next time) to be either entirely meta characters, or zero meta characters and just stupid strong people like Gambit and Magneto. they don't mix well

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Kingdom: New Lands, please.

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Yes!

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"Never say... uh is it 'never' or 'die'"

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DBZ
Evangelion
Star
Titans

lol "moon vs star"

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We could always go back to "Hades annoys Death into conceding sometime over the literal eternity that this match takes place"

or "Hades and Death eventually strike up a deal and Death leaves the match on his own terms"

or again, "Hades eats Death, the end"

I'd kind of like it if we could go back to one of those, the 'destroy the arena' argument wasn't even a huge thing in the first place and the more we focus on it the less fun this match gets

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Worse than "The show never gives any reason to think Death can fly but I'm saying he can anyways because reasons"?

Making a big hole and pushing him in it is different than just destroying everything and leaving him nowhere to go

I don't think this should even be a big thing anyways though because it's just one of the ways that Hades could be argued to win, and honestly probably one of the less likely ones when considering that if Hades wanted Death out of the arena he could just have him as a snack

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NFUN posted...

I do not know how Death would win. I do know that there is no way a ring-out by way of destroying the arena defeats Death.

Why's that? Can Death also fly?

And yeah, even if that doesn't work there's also just... eating him

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I'm seeing a lot of assuming that Death would win but not a lot of explaining how he would actually win. Hades is immortal too, it's not like Death is just going to outlive him. I don't think Death can capture him either, if it's physical confinement he can teleport out of it, and if it's sending him to another dimension or something he can just pop back into the underworld.

If Hades tried to win by destroying the arena for a ring out, that would work pretty well for him because he can fly.

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"Don't think of Trump- fuck"

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They might be willing to throw down for a good while, but that's not really a fight that's going anywhere unless Hades could just eat him to win. This seems like the best case scenario for Death is just a draw, but man, eternity is a long time to have someone like Hades constantly making fun of you.

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there are so many ways they could help change the world for the better, but I doubt most of them bother, so no

but honestly Trump on his own has done a hell of a lot to sour my opinion of rich people so I might not have the most objective stance

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I love this matchup, and these match picks

but yeah, these two are way more likely to be business partners than to fight, and Hades would do most of the offers Death might make in his spare time, for fun

Hades

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Ghost
Jack
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That's a lot of good games, man!

Can I have Bastion, please?

Redeemed, thank you.

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Do we have any idea how much He-Man is able to do before he ends up un-He-Manning himself? It's hard to imagine this being a battle that goes on for days with He-Man pulling off more and more over the top attacks to try and put his opponent down, without him ever having to change back to Prince Adam.

And if Terrarian ever does manage to get the sword away from He-Man then his He-Man time just got a lot shorter.

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If it were anyone else I'd buy that he would eventually make a mistake and get taken down for it, but his character here is essentially 'optimal Terraria player' so him losing to personal error doesn't feel very likely. I could maybe see He-Man catching him off guard by basically just being He-Man, but at the same time there's a lot of over the top weirdness in Terraria. Dude's seen it all, and then beaten it up for cool looking swords. As nonsensical as He-Man is I feel like a lot of what he could do wouldn't be so far out of the ordinary for an endgame Terraria character that he couldn't adapt.

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That felt like a bit of a cheaty nomination, but at the same time I'm surprised nobody ever went for it.

You're right that there are way too many elements to it to ever touch on all of them, but I'd still be interested in hearing you talk about it more if you were willing, maybe after the topic is over or in a PM or something. I can already think of a lot of things that didn't come up.

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lol, that's pretty great

Unless there are more times where the sword makes its way back to him I can't buy that just being a power it has. He loses the sword a looot so it seems weird that it wouldn't try returning to him more often if it could.

I don't think lethality is a factor for the traps here, He-Man is way too goofy and durable to just up and die to one, though something like a hoik would throw him for a loop for a bit. His real worry is getting incapacitated or separated from the sword, which Terrarian would likely just see as a fancy boss drop to steal the first safe chance he gets.

It might take a while for Terrarian to come up with traps that would be more than a slight bother to He-Man, but it's not like he doesn't have the time. He'd basically be Skeletor getting away at the end of every episode except actually smart, leagues faster and impossibly resourceful.

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Doubt Terrarian would take a He-Man punch well, but he handles it by not putting himself in a place where he'll get hit by one. Range is the go-to for most big Terraria fights, and even if his attacks get sent back he's fast enough that he won't get hit by enough of them to matter before he realizes it's a losing fight and bails.

He-Man might have experience with death traps, but nothing like the sometimes reality breaking traps Terrarian could throw at him, some of which were brought up here already. I could easily see He-Man getting caught off guard by something that frankly doesn't make any kind of sense and losing the power sword because of it.

Terrarian's reflexes are probably good enough to react to a rushdown from He-Man? I think that's how the discussion on his speed went anyways, not that I really want that can of worms to be opened up again.

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I'm leaning Terrarian because I think he's just too fast and resourceful for HE-MAN! to decisively defeat. Even if HE-MAN! hypothetically ended up wrecking the entire arena in the process of fighting him he could just scavenge resources from the rubble and keep doing his thing. It seems way more likely to me that HE-MAN! loses his sword somehow or runs out of HE-MAN! power before he's able to win.

I'm not 100% ready to vote yet, this is an interesting matchup. But if I had to pick someone right now I know who it'd be.

HE-MAN! Okay I'm done.

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Terrarian could always warp himself back to the surface if things started falling apart underground

hell, he could probably build an arena with the sole purpose of collapsing it on He-Man and then just leave before he gets caught up in it

this is a pretty big reason why I feel like Terrarian eventually wins this, he has basically infinite ways to fuck with his opponent, and He-Man doesn't really have a way to lock him down in one place so he can get away with it every time

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endgame Terraria terraforming/building is really fast, an experienced player could get this done in around 10-15 minutes I'm guessing

I don't know how big the arena is but it's probably big enough that He-Man is going to have to spend a decent amount of time searching

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it doesn't make sense for Mario to be faster than cannon fire, or shots from Mega Man and Samus to be slow enough to follow, or Link (before Breath of the Wild) to be able to dodge enemy arrows, etc etc, either

it's a way harder sell to try and say that every video game speed feat involving bullets/lasers/lightning etc is invalid than to accept that they're just slowed down for the benefit of the player

NFUN posted...

I'm pretty sure I talked about this in an earlier match too, or at least I meant to if I didn't. In the Aang match, you didn't push this angle, just brought it up then said ~"Even if he can't actually dodge lightning, he's still fast and wouldn't get hit", which is fine

I don't think this ever did come up, if I remember right the argument was "Aang is catching the lightning rather than dodging it, so it's probably a slower feat" which is a different story than what's going on here

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It's slowed down for the player's benefit, so they can actually see it and react to it. Almost every work of fiction does this

if Terrarian's lightning dodging feat doesn't count then, for instance, Aang's doesn't either because it's not even close to the speed of actual lightning

it's silly to bring this up in the final match of the tournament when it's already been accepted as an argument multiple times for multiple characters, including some of Terrarian's other fights.

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Oy, didn't sign up to do math here, lol

That's pretty ridiculous, still only around a third as fast as the lightning Terrarian can dodge though. Even if you handwave it as weird magic lightning that's slower somehow, it'd have to be much slower for him to have trouble dodging He-Man's rock throwing.

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I feel like this is going to be a long-range fight for the most part, so even if most of Terraria man's barrage gets hit back at him (can He-Man reflect magic or just Superman tank it?) he has the reflexes to avoid most if not all of it pretty easily.

"Tornado of flying death" sounds like a good reason for Terrarian to get out of dodge and regroup, and also a badass kung-fu move. I don't see him being thrown off much by He-Man's tornadoes though, the guy's dealt with actual sharknadoes and not been all that bothered.

https://youtu.be/qhYoSbZreXs?t=36

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What kind of range does He-Man have that Terrarian can't just dodge or cellphone warp away from? Even if He-Man started throwing mountains around he could just nope out of there.

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Never beaten a Final Fantasy, didnt like Trails in the Sky (Estelle is great though), thought Ace Attorney was just okay

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Boondocks
Scooby
Doo
Death Note

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Having depression. It's like being hit in the chest, but all the time.

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