Lurker > banananor

Obviously neither are cool- it takes two to tango

it looks like the guy is escalating from taunts and hand gestures to getting in someone's face and threatening violence

Classic dilemma between 7 year old kids- one's provoking, the other's escalating

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i can vouch for electric toothbrushes in general.

i've used an oral-b brand one for the past decade and it's increased my quality of life

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Sorry to hear that, I'll keep my fingers crossed

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Clifford

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starcraft

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htaeD posted...

He stole my banananananaanana joke

no no, not the long part, just the 'he too can play'

although i do appreciate the former from both of you

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Only other lynch I'd be a part of today is tang just to show banananananananananaor that he too can play mafia

ok, you got me, i laughed pretty hard at this

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Saying it was solely to avoid the top two lynches without actually giving a reason as to why Tange in particular

Crescent-Moon posted...

Alright guess I feel like elaborating. Whilst I have townleaned him, there's a common trap newbie scum sometimes run into and I personally ran into it myself.

It's a close vote and I don't believe both of the leaders are scum. Banana pops in near deadline in the new topic on a splinter no one's talking about voting for. It's a very "Safe" vote. It can't potentially "hurt" him or his team.

Saying it was solely to avoid the top two lynches without actually giving a reason as to why Tange in particular has removed my townlean from him.

tange literally said 'lets lynch red, its good for chris', i cant find the post right now but its there

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or two topics ago, things move fast

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Crescent-Moon posted...

I don't think this is a bad vote, per se.

But why you did vote him specifically?

vote history, timing of posts, content of posts, i don't like either leading votal, limited time remaining i realized i should put my money where my mouth is

i wish i had better analysis at the moment, i think especially it was him sheeping extra extra hard last topic

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i like that the two communities are different, i think it's good for both

obviously i prefer this one but i don't think people on either board worry about it nowadays

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this is a much better vote than the front runners

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##Vote: DoubleTangicide

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Crescent-Moon posted...

He wasn't talking down to you, he was stating an absolute fact.

it wasn't a fact, it was a command! i don't want to turn this into a distraction, but i am a little more logic-oriented

all that we can gauge from this is that it's very, very unlikely red and chris are scumbuddies

i would vote for aecioo, tange, ben, or IGCD, or scare, not an exclusive list

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

fun fact: you have the same power to post as I do day 1, so use it more wisely.

please don't talk down to me, i get that your style is trumpian/gusto-based but i just don't want to deal with it

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i feel relatively powerless here, but i still don't like the red train and the fact that chris is sticking with it

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not a fan of han's votes/early game, and thought i was going to make this post voting for him, but my gut likes his pop-in redemption post in this topic although i can't verify anything. feels smooth

going to be pretty annoyed if/when red ends up scum, i dont like feeling dumb

dont' like aecioo, tange, ben, IGCD for popping in briefly for bad votes, micro defenses and low analysis. i feel bad because i know i'm sure i'm missing someone but it's hard to keep track of all the low contributors in a time crunch

probably going to have to change my posting/analysis strategy

plum and scare have recently been riding the red wagon with at least some explained logic, although tbh scare's looked more like a defensive technique

cutting myself off here to hit submit and focus on the vote leaders instead of ramble pointlessly

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i don't like the migration of votes from scare to red13n. the fact that it isn't catching more momentum means i'm less inspired to slack at work and go crazy analyzing it

ok above sentence is wrong i kept working and as i check back in the number's gone up

DoomTheGyarados posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted... Han and dyl probably both scum tbh

gets ignored (i don't agree)

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I am ok with murdering red

set the stage

ScareChan posted...

bzzt

scare rejects it at first then votes for red later anyway. and people trickle on while commenting that han seems a better vote. i will look more at that list later. red does seem evasive, though. out of boredom or just defensiveness. i do believe his disgust at youtube videos. is chris the type of person to just try to eliminate the other 'good' players regardless of alignment?

for those of you that are voting red, what exactly tipped the scales to him instead of scare, han, whoever

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It's absolutely perception. We're older, our friends have more $$ mobility, we have more $$ mobility, we can instantly see what games our friends are playing, etc etc

If we want to stick with one game we certainly can. I'd still be playing rocket league today if my computer was still hooked up to an ethernet cable.

i really think everybody was playing diverse games back in the day, we just didn't see it because we weren't at their houses and they weren't posting about it online

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that's either pointing out a scumtell or slamming the agree button. it looks like the first

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what does bzzt mean in this context

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HB posting and focusing on that video at the beginning of the day seems like he's just on a fungame high. as promised, i took a second look. the tone does have a tiny bit of that reckless/silly abandon i associate with day1 vigilantes, jesters, high-powered neutrals, and vanilla scum- people with bullets and little responsibility. the video's net effect seems to be to make people empathetic towards turbopuns

speaking of relationships, nice (?) to see a few IRL masons in the game. does this mean if we get a scan on scare it's almost like a 2 for 1?

DYL's reaction to the video was not the same as mine, and yeah it's overly friendly but idk, people have opinions i guess

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good topic!

i'll throw in a casual/unofficial top ten guess list in no particular order

Hollow Knight
Super Mario Odyssey
Monster Hunter: World
Disco Elysium
Celeste
Night in the Woods
Ori and the Blind Forest
Hades
Breath of the Wild
Jackbox

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Crescent-Moon posted...

My problem isn't that he did it. It's that he hasn't done anything but constantly re-reference it instead of doing something meaningful.

my initial reaction chalked it up to day 1 stupidity, but i'll look at it again tomorrow (real human tomorrow, tapping out for the night)

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seems like he has a lot to work out, but i wouldn't call it the deep end

also TIL it's god-fearing, not god-faring. or maybe it's both. i dunno

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Dark Young Link posted...

To be honest I usually assume anything on page 1 is a joke, and votes very early on are probably not wholehearted. Context matters, of course.

Makes sense. in most games i assume everyone on day 1 is flailing around trying to push everyone else's buttons.

ben, chris, and red seem to be coming in weirdly hot and heavy, didn't know if that was specifically a b8 tradition. aecioo seemed jokey and crescent probing

ben, chris, and red- will you go on the record as just trying to push his buttons? what do you think about the 'output'?

throwing down that video is absolutely a distraction/smoke bomb, but as far as i can tell there wasn't anything to distract from yet


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thanks all, that was fast

Dark Young Link posted...

Honestly Red, anyone sincerely and seriously trying to kill me right now is claiming scum. All I want is discussion.

do you have any sense of who is sincere and who is pranking? i assume that's generally what happens day 1

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masterplum posted... Yes, and it was the greatest thing I have ever Mafia seen

That video was one of the primary reasons I finally signed up for b8 mafia. I was already on the fence, but that pushed me over the edge. Wonderful content

Johnbobb posted...

also remember that one guy that was a mafia regular but then threw a fit and left the board when gay marriage was legalized? good times

This rings a bell. My brain wants to say it was SDragonRocker, but I don't think he played mafia and the timing is way off

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

stupid question to the group, is there a link or something I can look at to see/get caught up on users' alts and nicknames?

red13n posted...

why would you do that to yourself? 38 minutes of poorly placed not really video content? I don't understand.

i would compare it to watching an episode of the office or, i dunno, tim & eric

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smarties are just m&ms though

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yep, i think being a casual is the right way to be nowadays. the optimal casual/serious hybrid for me is queueing dungeons, and then joining manual raid groups in the group finder. it's so much nicer than committing to a regular raid night

Steiner posted...

Then there's no value as it now wants you to take a fresh level 10 to Zuldazar/Kul'Tiras and getting to level 30 (vanilla zone level cap) takes about 2 hours

well, good news- and correct me if i'm wrong- but i think you can just talk to chromie and level up to cap in kalimdor/eastern kingdoms instead

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/chromie-time-leveling-zone-expansion-scaling (remember to turn on adblock imhhho)


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i answered it as 'how good are you at games'

i said 4, because if you exclude all of the mobile-only gamers that haven't had the requisite 10,000 hours of experience of hand-eye coordination training, i'm probably below average in skill and discipline

i also choose to believe persistent GGers are less than like 2% of the gamerbase


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bolth

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Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd

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it's taboo but certainly not unusual. have a talk for sure (they especially need the tools to establish their own boundaries, how to say no, not being ashamed, etc). obviously i agree with tomnook said

i would cede to an expert (doctor, psychologist, etc) tho

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aw damn.

regardless, i feel like i need more information on how the system worked- i.e., what the camera decided corresponded to various buttons

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medium/large Mutt jumps to mind first

German Shepherd and Labrador Retriever are the two ultimate generic/iconic dog breeds to me. I guess tack on Golden Retrievers as a third.

Golden Shepherds for people who want a family dog that will also guard the house, and Labrador Retrievers for people who want a family dog that will also love every guest unconditionally. Golden Retrievers seem like a slightly more extreme version of Labs with more difficult fur

When I was a kid, a golden retriever (might've been a labrador, can't remember) wandered into our house and just kind of chilled. They didn't have an address on their name tag so we weren't sure what to do. Twelve hours later, their owners showed up and the dog didn't seem to have strong feelings about going one way or the other. I've been horribly and unfairly biased against the breed ever since!

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Confirm

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i finished OoT for the first time this year, and i think i finally 'get' zelda games

stuff being inscrutable was part of the appeal. you were supposed to call nintendo help lines/buy strategy guides/ask your friends for tips and tricks

it's the sort of game that rewards you with a particular feeling on your second playthrough- you don't remember the exact solutions but your hunches guide you with a sense of familiarity

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Evangelion
Titans
Jojo
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Sean Connery

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turbopuns3 posted...

I was just so damn excited by the new old world paired with the massive expansion of race/class combinations that came with it. Despite maining my priest all through Wrath, I immediately created a troll druid day 1 of Cata and didn't even log into my priest until I'd maxed out my druid and started grinding heroic 5 mans.

And I LOVED the difficulty of the initial 5 man heroics in Cata. People actually died in dungeons and had to coordinate. Good stuff.

Dual specialization, at last, too.

Yep, wouldn't blame anybody for loving Cata, especially pre-Dragon Soul. I also wouldn't blame anybody for loving Draenor before we found out they were canceling the second half of the expansion

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Let's see what mine looks like.

# 2 Hunter - 71 days, 15 hours, 52 minutes
# 1 Shaman - 620 days, 1 hour, 26 minutes

I'll stop there <_<

My man! Those were the kind of numbers I was expecting when I checked mine, to be honest. I suppose I lag because I dropped out for some content lulls/bad patches. What was your favorite time period?


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Steiner posted...

can you elaborate on this point?

absolutely. i'll preface this by saying i'm being a little melodramatic

short version- LFR motivated Blizzard to put every class on perfect parity and ability to carry a "stacked" raid. A raid is "stacked" when most/every player in a role in the raid was the same class. As a result of this, some of my favorite classes/specs suddenly lost what made them specialized or unique

longer version- LFR was designed to be extremely easy, but you also had to take into consideration that ~40% of the raid was going to be AFK, ungeared, and/or unskilled by design. Every class had to potentially provide everything

every dps had to have an interrupt, a speed boost, a stun, a 90 second dps cooldown, a 180 second dps cooldown, a "combo point builder", a "combo point spender", a "survive one nuke" ability, and a spammable AoE attack. Cleave specialists were gone, burst dps specialists were neutered, support dps specialists were gone, 'execute' dps was gone.

every healer had to have a 180 second healing cooldown, a dispel, a mana efficient heal, a fast heal, a high throughput heal, and a spammable AoE heal. most importantly the AoE heal. Every healing class was now going to spam their AoE heal 80% of the time if they cared about performance. tank healing specialists were neutered, melee group healers were neutered, spot healers were neutered, and shield healers were gone

It started getting better in Warlords of Draenor, when 'flexible raid sizes' and 20-man mythics were introduced, lowering the reliance on LFR. It wasn't truly fixed until Legion, when the new and improved Group Finder and cross-realm raiding made LFR functionally obsolete. The designers were finally free to focus on class fantasy rather than functional symmetry.

I'm also just a sucker for teamwork and complementary playstyles, especially when healing. And the LFR era was a mediocre time for healers

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StartTheMachine posted...

Him going to jail would be amazing but it's a liberal fantasy.

trump will have to stay outside the state of new york after he leaves office or he is 100% going to jail- the AG there is very motivated

i don't think he will go to new york, and instead will hunker down in mar-a-lago. i'm not familiar with state-by-state extradition laws, but i imagine florida would not cooperate

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foolm0r0n posted...

Libertarians want a much better healthcare system than the Republicans or Democrats can provide, so they're okay with leaving Obamacare up for a while until that's achieved. But Democrats would rather (and did in large numbers) vote for Trump than to admit help from libertarians.

That's super interesting- what does a libertarian healthcare system look like?

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imho, the biggest difference between the ps3 and ps4 generation was not graphics, but rather the increase in the number of active elements on screen at one time. i think we've reached a bit of a plateau in terms of resolution. The limiting factor isn't tech- it's artists

it used to be that consoles were generally superior to affordable PCs. That situation has reversed- now any new feature on console is just consoles adopting PC features 8 years late

if the greatest feature of the current generation is SSDs, so be it

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i feel like there needs to be more than one definition on the chart

there's left-right perspective, and then there's adherence to truth

something can be opinionated to the right or left, yet still inherently truthful and/or open about the lens they interpret things with. i think my main complaint with some of these networks is that they are ultimately willing to lie for "the cause"

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i think it's a little unfair to paint democrats as 'big tent' and say republicans aren't. republicans are certainly big-tent. trump fits under it, fer god's sake

republicans have a few subfactions, many of which are narrow-interest voters whose limited commonalities are opposition to democrats and suppression of the (minority) poor.

1) the very rich that don't want to pay taxes
2) the anti-intellectual religious
3) the supremacists/nationalists

and don't forget
4) the libertarians (you can almost consider them a more intense subset of the rich). did you know that obamacare probably would have been repealed in 2017 if not for the libertarians, who thought the repeal wasn't cruel and thorough enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus#Rejection_of_American_Health_Care_Act_in_2017


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azuarc posted...

Generally accurate. Had little to do with my personal life and more to do with my class and my position within the guild and simply how long wow had been going at that point. When what you're doing takes a sudden verve from clearing Hyjal and learning Sunwell to doing nothing for six months other than one instance each week that we quickly had on farm, that interest needs to be replaced by something.

Makes sense, and I hadn't thought of it that way before. there were clearly growing pains at blizzard trying to create content that could satisfy both the ultra-skilled and the newbies. It took a few more xpacs for them to settle on today's four difficulty settings: LFR -> flex normal -> flex heroic -> static mythic

turbopuns3 posted...

Actually if I'm being honest with myself, Cataclysm was my favorite and I just regret not staying more deeply involved with the game during that time so I tend to think of Wrath first due to immense levels of nostalgia.

Cataclysm had its good parts.

Class design was bold and experimental, and new mechanics ranged from fantastic (hunter) to okay (paladin). Every class received cool new toys without forcing us to run out of keybinds (in MoP it got to be too much). The relative homogeneity of classes was novel. The low-level questing experience was cleaned up, and raid fight mechanics continued to improve incrementally. This expansion was probably when I PvPed the most and leveled the most alts from scratch, because it was fun. Firelands was a satisfying raid, and I'm nostalgic for BWD because I raided with friends.

There were quite a few downsides.

Because so much dev time was spent revamping the low-level experience, leveling from 80 to 85 was long, repetitive, linear, and frankly unfun. Max-level world/solo content was nonexistent- it was replaced by grinding 5-player dungeons over and over and over again. Lore in general and Deathwing himself wee massive disappointments. The 1-60 revamp had questionable aspects to it as well, but I won't get into that. The Zul'Agains were okay but not what we needed.

Blizzard had issues with difficulty settings at first, this time designing for the skillful players. Max-level dungeons were tuned for hardcore raiders with decent gear and coordinated ability use. Less experienced players banged their heads against the wall for a few weeks, saw there was nothing else in the game world for them to do, and unsubscribed. Cataclysm has the dubious honor of being the first expansion in which subscription numbers dropped

All of this could have been forgiven.... if not for Dragon Soul- the worst raid ever created- and the sloppy introduction of LFR. I've mentioned before that LFR killed class design for a few expansions. It took 3 more for blizzard to get it right

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Regardless, you just happened to hit one of those mildly contentious wow-related topics i enjoy debating every once in a while

i knew a lot of people who loved vanilla above all else, and then others who loved tbc above all else. those people i think tried to take off for aion, which i haven't checked in on for a while

if i had to pick as hopefully objectively as possible a 'best expansion', it would probably be legion

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