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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 10:20:47 AM
#105
RedJackson posted...
Lol

It's not irrelevant but if you're at the top and you've exhausted every effort to win in training it's been shown time and time again that all testosorone can hope to do is push your mindset over the edge to the point you're willing to break yer body completely to win - it's basically fear removal combined with adrenaline from the moment itself

Ok. Please explain then with your model why there is not a single female in the history of athletics who has even entered into the top 3000-4000 of men's track times. Presumably since testosterone isn't that big of a deal and it's just the resolve to win that gets people medals, can you explain why in every event women are 10% slower than men?

Following this idea, are women just...10% less motivated than men?

Are you seriously suggesting that in the history of athletics there's just not been even a single woman ever on the planet who would push herself to the limit like men can? Really?

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 10:02:19 AM
#98
RedJackson posted...
Your evidence is only on paper, there's absolutely nothing on whether or not that testosorone amount is thwarted by a minds ability to persevere

Your case completely omits the concept of pure competition - anybody that has tried to 'win' at anything knows that a persons desire to win will always trump the amount of potential skill that actually ends up getting realized. There's been countless of efforts made to try and attach racial connotations to why some athletes do better - I guess some people like Hussein Bolt are happy because of some geographical advantage, but we don't really say 'this race of people tend to run faster' because that's sort of moot with proper training and conditioning

Idk man just inject cis women with testosorone then if yer that worried, play to win right?

If I'm understanding you correctly, are you essentially arguing that physiology and talent are entirely irrelevant next to the pure resolve to win?

Bro that's the plot of Bleach. That's not how elite sports works.

Secondly are you suggesting we should sanction using performance enhancing drugs on otherwise healthy individuals so that they can win medals better?

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 9:59:58 AM
#97
Proto_Spark posted...
Thats fair. The problems with the study itself are more in line with "she's ignoring a lot of the previous research into the topic" and basically comes down to she started at the conclusion and worked backwards. So in this situation the entire study is organized with malicious intent.

If you look at the reddit post there are links to papers about cherry picking data or using inaccurate data, or just poor methodology in order to justify the conclusion she started at.

The TERF is just an explanation for why this study is so flawed.

True. I'm having a look at these papers in the comments. Am I correct with this one that it suggests that bone mass and density is preserved in the first 1-2 years of transitioning?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25377496/

Anyway, my takeaway here is that if transitioning after X amount of times removes any perceived "male" performance advantage, then there's no argument anymore to be had. That amount of time (X) would be the marker that should be where MTF athletes compete in the female category, in my view. I just don't think self-ID alone works for sport.

I don't think there's any risk of MTF athletes dominating womens sport. Nor do I think there even will be many. Nor do I think that people are transitioning for the purpose of winning medals, that one is the most ridiculous of the lot.

But I do think it's very reasonable to consider that at the top level of sport elite athletes (you know, those guys who cheat all the damn time) could easily abuse a well-meaning policy if its not carefully constructed. If elite athletes will risk their health and their credibility to take performance enhancing drugs to win medals, I don't think it's unfeasible that they would abuse a system like this to do so. I.e. a cis athlete could use a loose policy guideline to win in a category they have a better chance in.

And I also think if sports have a welfare concern (like rugby seems to), they need to be very, very sure.


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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 9:44:11 AM
#93
Proto_Spark posted...
This.

So the problem with this video is that the study is kind of bull. This is a reddit post, but the comments have links to all the studies that are brought up in why this study is garbage (first being, its not peer-reviewed, and Emma Hilton is apparently a well-known TERF activist in the UK)

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/gl0k8j/important_terf_research_fellow_emma_hilton_is/

EDIT: I also didn't look very hard for that link, it was on the first page of google results when I looked up the woman who wrote the study

It should just be enough to say "this study is wrong because X". I kind of have a problem with the circular reasoning that terf gets thrown around with now. It's used as a hammer to smash the research and not the other way around. Also I'm not sure a reddit thread on /r/gendercynical counts as a peer review dismissal.

Another source might be Ross Tucker as above.

And I wish this sort of skepticism was applied to the study that Joanna Harper did on distance runners that is quoted every time this thread comes up, but it's not.

Edit: I see the comments linking to studies now, gonna have a read.

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 9:31:27 AM
#90
Here's a thread btw from a sports scientist on the issue. Becomes even more controversial in something like rugby where there's considered a welfare concern and not just an unfairness one:

https://twitter.com/Scienceofsport/status/1297915789530497025


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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 8:57:54 AM
#87
Tyranthraxus posted...
What you're calling "male advantage" is actually just "testosterone advantage" and men, even low T 90 year old men have more of it than women on average.

Yeah although I put down "male" because people like to make the point that testosterone is not the only driver and that testosterone does not work exactly the same in all individuals (I don't think these are good points when it comes to dismissing T altogether but it's worth noting that it's the effect of testosterone that matters more than the amount of testosterone alone, namely androgenisation).


So do you think sports classes should be divided up by Testosterone? A woman with high testosterone could potentially outperform a man with similar training with low testosterone.

I think testosterone is a difficult marker for the reason given above - two individuals with the same testosterone can respond differently to it. Testosterone is the key and your receptors are the lock, so to speak. Some people have a broken lock, or a different size lock, etc.

But the difference in testosterone is so large between male and female that that is how sport is trying to do it currently. it's controversial and it's not very good, but so far it seems to be the best marker.

The issue becomes even more complex when legacy advantages of male puberty can be retained even after testosterone levels are diminished. I.e. if you go through male puberty and then transition and take HRT to bring your T to normal female levels, do you lose all of the physiological changes or just some of them, or most of them? This seems to be the contentious point because there's just not a lot of good studies on trans athletes.

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 8:33:25 AM
#84
*I'll add to what I just said: if it could be shown conclusively that someone who transitions (MTF) loses the physiological advantages after a certain amount of time and comes into a normal female range, then there's not a problem anymore. And equally if someone starts transitioning before puberty then there's no rational to exclude them either (assuming transitioning before puberty is the ethical choice, and that's not an issue I understand well).

Currently it seems there's a lot of woolly research around this area. A couple of badly done studies on trans athletes that come to different conclusions. Some better studies (not on athletes) that show that not all advantages are lost and many are retained to a level that gives a considerable edge.

I think it's not wrong for women's sport to demand exclusion until evidence shows that someone who has transitioned has lost their "male" advantage. I don't think it would be correct for sport to allow inclusion until evidence shows. It's a protected category, so if you want to make an evidence-based argument then exclusion should be the default.

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 8:17:19 AM
#81
Ilishe posted...
@logical you made a good and convincing case.

I'd like to ask you something else. What about the trans athletes' rights to participate in sports as equals? They probably have biological advantages (some more, some less) but so does a tall man over a short one in competitions where height is a deciding trait, and so on.

We accept trans women as women, therefore they should be able to compete as equals, regardless of their biological advantages, such as they are. Do you agree or not?

There's two problems with this as I see it, one qualitative and one quantitative.

The quality is that "short men" is not a protected category. So take basketball as the example: We know that being tall is an advantage in basketball, but we don't have height categories. Why? Because no one has thought "we need to protect the class of short men who are disadvantaged in this sport". You could make an argument to say that we should, but we simply haven't. If there was a short person basketball category in elite sport, we'd have to defend it and prevent people from simply wanting to be in it. We have a women's sports category, so it has to be defended, or justified in some way that makes sense.

The second problem is quantitative. All else being equal, being short (or at least, not tall) is not an insurmountable problem in elite basketball. We have the data to show for that. Some basketball players have managed to enter the NBA and compete at that level despite being well under the general height range.

But sex? Or specifically, the androgenisation caused by male puberty, driven primarily by testosterone in normal individuals without DSDs? No way. This is a completely insurmountable advantage. There is basically not a single female in the history of any athletic event or weights event who is even in the top 3000 men. The fastest females in history are being beaten by teenage boys and semi elite athletes.

We have the data to show for that too. And it doesn't help to make arguments like "but my friend Sarah is faster than me at running". The point isn't to look at atypical examples, or a mediocre male athlete vs an elite female athlete. It's to look at typical, like-for-like examples. And this model basically erases women from elite sport altogether, except in a few fringe cases like equestrian and so on.

The point is, having a female category allows women a protected space to compete as equals. When Shelly-Ann Fraser Price won a Olympic gold medal, she did so even though she was 10% slower than Ussain Bolt. We recognise them equally, even if the raw performance is different, because categories create equality in sport. If this category did not exist, there would be no women (trans or cis) competing in any events at any elite level, let alone winning medals.

Now you might still argue "so what, trans women are women, let them compete in that protected space". Fine, but then you undermine the reasoning for having that space in the first place (namely the insurmountable male physiological advantage).

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TopicTrans people have been allowed in the Olympics since 2003
pinky0926
02/08/21 8:03:04 AM
#78
This is a bizarre issue because people are using bad science and even just illogical premises to justify ideological or human rights positions they've already landed on. I'm fine with the ideology and the human rights arguments, but state that ahead of time. Don't twist the argument into some weird gaslighting in the form of "there is no difference in male/female biology" or "there is no evidence" or "this is all just too complicated" or "there is no advantage because some women are better than some men".

Women's sport is a protected sports category (mens isn't), so obviously it's a contentious issue any time you want to discuss widening the inclusion into that category, and how to define it. To reduce it into "you're either a terf or you're not" style of arguments is intellectually dishonest to a fault. No one should be strapped to a cross for wanting to understand and reason out why these categories exist in sport and how they should be defined.

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TopicDivinity Original Sin 2 is one of the most punishing RPGs I've ever played.
pinky0926
02/08/21 6:13:12 AM
#12
Tru tru

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TopicBased Ana Kasparian destroying bigots
pinky0926
02/08/21 5:51:02 AM
#6
God she's intolerable

Guess what, "I'm better than a fascist" isn't quite the glowing cover letter you think it is

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TopicDivinity Original Sin 2 is one of the most punishing RPGs I've ever played.
pinky0926
02/08/21 5:25:09 AM
#10
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I always felt like I wasn't creative enough to play D:OS2 properly. Like, the most creative I ever got was teleporting people places where they would take damage. Then I read about the ways people work circles around the combat system and it just makes my head spin.

From what I read it's basically like if you're happy to cheese the combat system, and oddly this seems a genre of game where that's encouraged

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TopicDivinity Original Sin 2 is one of the most punishing RPGs I've ever played.
pinky0926
02/08/21 5:01:52 AM
#4
I don't know how anyone can play this game without save scumming tbh, it's too severe and you can't grind or anything

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TopicMeanwhile, in Australia
pinky0926
02/08/21 4:48:59 AM
#18
Jesus fuck, Melbourne?! That's like the Portland of Australia. I'd be less surprised if this happened in Queensland or Karratha or something but Melbourne...

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TopicDivinity Original Sin 2 is one of the most punishing RPGs I've ever played.
pinky0926
02/08/21 4:38:49 AM
#1
One error of positioning or attack order and you may as well restart the entire fight and backtrack half an hour of progress.

Same goes for dialogue choices. I guess this makes it a proper RPG, but it's rare to play a game where just saying the wrong thing will land you in a sudden encounter with someone seriously above your level.

Enjoying but man this is difficult and slow

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TopicAlready 12 episodes into One Piece...oh no...
pinky0926
02/07/21 5:02:52 PM
#9
ssj3vegeta posted...
One of us, one of us

This

Also, I'm surprised you like it already. Standard One Piece fan problem is "This is the best anime ever, but you just need to watch the first 30 or so episodes before it stops sucking"

And that is obviously more than enough of a problem for most people

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TopicInternet pathological liars
pinky0926
02/07/21 1:02:45 PM
#2
I've never understood people who troll as a full time thing and it genuinely bothers me that some people are so twisted that they'll commit to a fake internet personality for the purpose of mildly annoying some strangers

It suggests something seriously off with their brain chemistry

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:49:09 PM
#34
The worst part of this all is that I don't think he's trying to be malicious (weird and naive as that may sound). We've had ongoing issues with this landlord being TOO attentive.

Once we mentioned to him that we think we saw a mouse. He texted back immediately saying he would come over and he was at the house in 20 minutes (im pretty sure he lives a 30 minutes drive away). He set up traps everywhere and then randomly vacuumed the entire carpet. He then came back 3 times in the following fortnight to check the traps until we had to send him an email politely asking him to calm the fuck down and stop intruding.

This is one example of many where the guy was clearly just very very anally-retentive about his property. I should have known he'd do this.

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:39:24 PM
#24
Solo_Wing posted...
At least next time you've learned your lesson to take a video evidence along with a newspaper / common show for that day next time you leave

I did all this. To be honest, i think he's just salty that we moved out in the middle of a pandemic when no one is moving into rentals. The cleaning cost is conveniently about a month's rent.

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:30:39 PM
#9
16-BITTER posted...
My favorite landlord story:

Friends of mine had to move out of their apartment because it was seized by eminent domain and was being demolished to improve traffic at the intersection (they got decent compensation and notice from the county, for the record).

The landlord didn't return their security deposit because they didn't clean the carpets prior to vacating.

Fucking scum

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:30:26 PM
#7
onedarksoul posted...
Perhaps you should have done this.

There's a provision in the lease that he will get a professional cleaner regardless and the cost of this would be around $200, so I figured what the hey, if he's going to get someone in to shampoo the carpet and whatever no matter what I do, no point paying twice for it.

I've moved house many times in my life and never had trouble like this, but I should have known with the kind of guy he is.

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:28:10 PM
#3
skermac posted...
So why didnt you spend 10 seconds wiping those areas?

Naturally it was entirely deliberate, I looked directly at those spots and thought, "I'm just going to leave this, because I hate money"

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TopicMy landlord wants to charge a $1000 cleaning fee (I moved out).
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:25:08 PM
#1
Before you assume the obvious (i.e. that I am a methhead and I completely trashed the place), here were his comments on the checkout form:

  • dust still left in the vacuum
  • limescale behind kitchen sink tap
  • food residue under dials on kitchen hob
  • dust inside bedroom air vent#
He then itemised a bill for this and each point is listed at around $50-100 to clean.

I'm not going to share pictures for obvious reasons but I checked with various friends and they said the place was absolutely sparkling. The photos the landlord sent through were zoomed in to a molecular level of some dust and basic things that would take a 10 second wipe to fix if they were spotted. I have no doubt that if he hires a cleaner they will give the place a 15 minute once over and be done.

I'm never renting again.

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TopicLA Fitness zero initiation $19.99 a month offer
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:19:15 PM
#16
Bleuets posted...
you've only seen the commercials and never been in a planet fitness before, am I right?

I've only heard stories on line. No I've never been in one.

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Topic"Music today is so vapid and shallow. All they talk about is drugs...
pinky0926
02/07/21 12:00:52 PM
#13
BobanMarjanovic posted...
^^

You can't seriously agree with that troll

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Topic"Music today is so vapid and shallow. All they talk about is drugs...
pinky0926
02/07/21 11:38:59 AM
#9
PipeHam posted...
It's not that all they talk about today is sex and drugs,
it's that the lyrical work is so shit from today's artists that whereas listening to a love song in the 70's (Ain't no mountain high enough, let's say) was uplifting and gave dignity to love
- compared to WAP (Wet-Ass Pussy) where it's not uplifting and there's no dignity, it's just hooker-sex

Ben Shapiro, is that you

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TopicIt would almost be worth giving Republican voters a free euro trip just once
pinky0926
02/07/21 9:32:59 AM
#20
Lol at unfairrepresent clutching pearls as usual

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TopicIt would almost be worth giving Republican voters a free euro trip just once
pinky0926
02/07/21 8:35:47 AM
#14
Ruvan22 posted...
Aww why moving out of Scotland?

Girlfriend got a good job in England and I can work remotely, basically

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TopicLA Fitness zero initiation $19.99 a month offer
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:56:36 AM
#5
I4NRulez posted...
Eh, planet fitness is 10 bucks tho.

Isn't that the place that is 90% treadmills and if you use the weights with any degree of seriousness an alarm goes off to tell you to stop?

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TopicIt would almost be worth giving Republican voters a free euro trip just once
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:50:40 AM
#5
Godnorgosh posted...
Important part of this strategy is that during the trip they have a medical emergency of some kind and need to go to the hospital

So I'm moving to England soon and I'm a pretty annoyed that prescription medication is not free in England (although it's still cheap, and healthcare is still free). In Scotland, all medication is free. Like even if you get chlamydia and you need some antibiotics, it's covered.

This is the standard I've come to expect.

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TopicIt would almost be worth giving Republican voters a free euro trip just once
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:45:00 AM
#3
realtalkguy posted...
I love how you excluded your own country because we all know the UK isn't even one of the nice countries lo

Yes I realise Americans often want to defensively pull a "but what about YOUR country?" when Brits are critical of the USA but they need to remember, there's nothing british people enjoy more than some quality self-loathing

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TopicIt would almost be worth giving Republican voters a free euro trip just once
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:38:55 AM
#1
Every working class self-hating american exceptionalist, just give them a couple of weeks around the nicer parts of western europe. Show them germany, denmark, norway, sweden (yes, sweden too). Show them what the evils of socialism really looks like. What countries that prioritise education, healthcare and social infrastructure over the military industrial complex look like. Countries that don't let huge corporations shaft them at every conceivable turn.

I feel like you could cure a lot of social ills with that simple exercise.

Don't take this shitpost topic too seriously

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TopicI got memed into getting an RGB mechanical keyboard
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:32:41 AM
#9
Sounds like that's not what I have then, it c l a c c

I'll find out, need to fish it out

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TopicI got memed into getting an RGB mechanical keyboard
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:27:06 AM
#7
archedsoul posted...
Which exact model with which color switch?

Corsair K70 and I think cherry mx.

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TopicDescribe your favourite runin with the police.
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:24:25 AM
#6
First year of uni, mid 2000s or something. I lived in a pretty affluent area and was renting a room in my wealthy friends' house. I had terrible style then. Dressed totally like a chav.

We went on a night out and had come home pretty steaming. I was fumbling with my keys trying to get in. It was a really cold night in Glasgow and I had my hoodie up.

A police car pulls up and the polis start asking us what we are doing. I look at them bewildered and say I was just trying to get in my house. They stare at me with a look that suggests they don't believe a word as we continue to try and get the keys in. The cops are about to get out and question us when we finally open the door. We go inside and they hover around for a bit to make sure we're not breaking anything, and then they leave.

It occurred to me afterwards that we must have looked like two drug addicts trying to break into a house in a nice neighbourhood.

Somewhat ironically, that flat was burgled twice only a couple of months after that.

I sort of imagine this brief and ultimately benign run-in is how it must feel for black folk in America but literally all the time

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TopicIs it true men who look like this can get hot girls in Europe?
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:20:15 AM
#13
Error1355 posted...
you ok TC?

Evidence says no

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TopicI like to drink milk out of my wonder woman cup
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:18:01 AM
#7
do you say "I love my wondy mommy milky" every time you take a sip?

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TopicIs it true men who look like this can get hot girls in Europe?
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:09:48 AM
#9
winged_weltall posted...
I've lived in Europe all my life and can pretty much confirm what pinky said, especially about Eastern Europe.

And then you go to somewhere like the North of England or most of Scotland and the men are more attractive than the women but everyone is still chubby and pale but not in a healthy looking way

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TopicI got memed into getting an RGB mechanical keyboard
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:08:34 AM
#4
I must say the clack it makes is satisfying. If the keys weren't so damn large and they didn't sit so high I'd quite enjoy it. But damn it's not a fun keyboard to use unless set up in a permanent position.

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TopicIs it true men who look like this can get hot girls in Europe?
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:07:28 AM
#6
Not the most subtle trolling but at least it lets us identify you quickly :)

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TopicIs it true men who look like this can get hot girls in Europe?
pinky0926
02/07/21 7:00:52 AM
#4
realtalkguy posted...
Old man is still old

This may shock you but there's a sizeable population of young women who prefer old men

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TopicI got memed into getting an RGB mechanical keyboard
pinky0926
02/07/21 6:52:06 AM
#1
Sure it was cool for like a week to have it sync up to my music

But now I have a keyboard that weighs about 10x what a keyboard should, has a wire (a ridiculously thick one) and seems to allow keys to slip off as easily as a silk sock or something. And the action is way too high for any actual serious typing

And it was like $100

wtf

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Topicthe guitar chick from genshin impacc
pinky0926
02/07/21 6:49:09 AM
#9
indica posted...
That's very odd. I don't see any connection...

I believe the idea is that the kansai accent is supposed to be a bit of a "country" accent in japanese terms, so they just go with that.

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TopicIs it true men who look like this can get hot girls in Europe?
pinky0926
02/07/21 6:46:02 AM
#2
I'm not seeing much continuity between the silver fox in the first picture and the walking tumor in the second

But to answer your question, Europe is a big place and the quality and cultural norms vary wildly from place to place. In Eastern Europe you will often see overweight thugs with straight up Victoria's Secret level women, though.

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Topicthe guitar chick from genshin impacc
pinky0926
02/07/21 5:42:07 AM
#2
They do this with anime dubs whenever a character had a kansai accent in the Japanese version too, its odd.

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Topic'President Trump was the best thing to happen to Christianity since Jesus.'
pinky0926
02/06/21 10:58:56 PM
#24
Trump spent more time inside Stormy Daniels than he did in church. These people are a disease.

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TopicOf these, which is the most compelling evidence that Michael Myers is not human?
pinky0926
02/06/21 10:54:58 PM
#20
Josiah_Is_Back posted...
@Johnny_Nutcase

I am a fan of both, and while there are obvious similarities between the two (silent masked killers who cannot be killed), there are also significant differences that prevent them from being carbon copies of each other. (Well, technically, Jason would be a copy of Michael, since Michael came first; but that's another discussion.)

Anyway, Jason is obviously a zombie or wraith-like ghoul motivated by revenge. As such, the audience understands what he is (to a degree) and why he kills. Michael Myers, on the other hand, has no real reason for doing what he does. Certain sequels and timelines offer suggestions and theories, but canonically there is no "reason" or "backstory" to Michael Myers other than the notion that he is the Boogeyman, evil incarnate, not an undead specter like Jason but also not quite a human being, either.

This is one of the things that make Michael Myers so scary, and some may say even scarier than Jason: he appears to be just a man. He's not an animated decomposed corpse like Jason, where it's obvious you are dealing with something otherworldly. With Michael, you have no reason to believe you're dealing with anything other than just a psychotic mental patient wearing coveralls and a creepy white mask... until you experience his preternatural strength and the fact that, somehow, he just won't die.

If you enjoy the Jason films, I would definitely give the Halloween movies a whirl. It can be confusing because there are several timelines, as the various sequels branched off and did their own thing.

My personal recommendation: watch the original Halloween (1978), and then watch the 2018 film (also titled simply Halloween), which is treated as a direct sequel to the original and ignores all other films in the franchise. Then, if you are invested in the character enough to explore further, check out the other sequels and timelines to see how different films explored the Michael Myers character and mythos.

Well said. Michael really is terrifying because nothing suggests he is anything other than a pure eldritch horror. There's no tragic back story or personal grievance or toxic waste or whatever. He just...is.

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TopicCandace Owens thinking about running for President
pinky0926
02/06/21 10:37:36 PM
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Thighon posted...
It's not weirdly. He's a trump supporter alt and is mocking TC

Ah

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TopicCandace Owens thinking about running for President
pinky0926
02/06/21 10:36:03 PM
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David1988 posted...
Dont encourage this, remember Trump

Exactly this. Republicans have shown they cannot be trusted with electing sane and competent people

Also I have you tagged as a trump supporter weirdly

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