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TopicParler is GONE
CableZL
01/10/21 7:20:08 AM
#86
Lathissamus posted...
"We only want to see posts that agree with us" - Leftists
"We want to be able to incite violence, plan acts of terrorism, and be racist with no repercussions because we preach to others about personal responsibility that we don't actually want for ourselves." - Far right

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TopicSo if QAnon's slogan is where we go one we go all
CableZL
01/10/21 12:31:40 AM
#1
TopicJust deleted Twitter.
CableZL
01/10/21 12:28:03 AM
#28
TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 10:50:04 PM
#35
ChocoboMogALT posted...
I agree with Twitter locking down certain accounts, but also agree with this post. Internet backbones should be neutral, should not favor or disfavor certain companies, with some restrictions. Parler may be breaking those restrictions and subject to scrutiny, but generally isp backends should be legally obliged to the first ammendment.

AWS isn't an ISP backend.

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 10:15:51 PM
#24
joe40001 posted...
I'm not saying the free market is ideal

But this is not the free market.

"You are free to compete, but if we don't want you we won't list you on the google play store, and we won't let you use one of the most common servers as backends"

It's basically "You are free to compete as a business but you can't use roads."
Dude

Stop

Amazon AWS is not a free market and was never intended to be

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 10:09:57 PM
#19
IllegalAlien posted...
lmao I highly doubt they'll be able to get it working without a hosted service, maybe they can duct tape it together. this really fucks up their entire backend logic as well
Yeah, I doubt it's gonna go well. It'll be much worse.

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TopicExperts say riot viewers may experience trauma (even if they weren't there)
CableZL
01/09/21 10:09:28 PM
#3
SaltyWet posted...
It makes you anxious about the state of the country and direction it's going
Yeah.

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TopicParler is GONE
CableZL
01/09/21 10:03:42 PM
#9
They're going to try to rebuild on their own infrastructure.

I'm guessing it won't go well, but we'll see

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 9:59:00 PM
#17
TopicParler is GONE
CableZL
01/09/21 9:56:45 PM
#5
Socrawheeze posted...
...amazon was hosting it the entire time? that's so fucked up
Yup

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 9:56:16 PM
#16
emblem boy posted...
Was parler even the "free speech beacon" it was hyped up to be? Or just ended up becoming an alt right shitfest
No, they had their own terms of use. They had actually just removed some of Lin Wood's posts before they got booted off of Google Play, the App Store, and AWS

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 9:50:00 PM
#13
Eliza3 posted...
So Parler will actually be gone?

As in curtains?
It will evaporate?
CEASE to exist?
Until they find a new hosting service, parler will be gone.

As long as they keep relying on 3rd party hosting services, they probably won't last long if they get approved at all.

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TopicFOX News Host comes in hot on the protestors and morons calling them Antifa
CableZL
01/09/21 9:43:09 PM
#8
muchdran posted...
Biden didn't get 80 million votes.
Correct, Biden got over 81 million votes.

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TopicFOX News Host comes in hot on the protestors and morons calling them Antifa
CableZL
01/09/21 9:37:53 PM
#2
Why do they keep saying 75 million of us

Trump didn't get 75 million votes

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 9:28:01 PM
#5
__aCEr__ posted...
I wonder if Amazon will stop selling Trump 2020 flags like they did with the confederate flag.
I believe it was 3rd party sellers selling them on Amazon's platform, but I'm not 100% sure

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TopicAmazon is kicking Parler off of AWS
CableZL
01/09/21 9:21:38 PM
#1
TopicSoho Karen released after NYC arraignment, D.A. never mentioned victim was Black
CableZL
01/09/21 9:09:12 PM
#7
Zano posted...
I never watched the original video, but many comments said that she tackled the kid. How is that not a crime.?
It is. She doesn't think it is, but she'll find out otherwise.

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TopicSoho Karen released after NYC arraignment, D.A. never mentioned victim was Black
CableZL
01/09/21 9:07:34 PM
#4
She's going to spend a lot of her life in jail because she keeps doing stupid shit and refusing to take responsibility for her actions.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 9:05:56 PM
#130
joe40001 posted...
There was no pretense in which you were invited or allowed on the news station.
Sure there is.

Before covid I could go to the CNN Center in Atlanta and go on a tour.

I was invited to a news station in Austin, TX back in middle school and they put me on TV along with the rest of the 8th grade football team.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 9:01:05 PM
#126
joe40001 posted...
And if your apartment was in control of the ability to communicate of millions and world leaders, I'd be concerned about your apartment too.
It doesn't matter if you would be concerned. You don't have a right to be in my apartment.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:56:09 PM
#121
joe40001 posted...
I'm just saying people putting so much trust in private companies to be the arbiters of right and wrong in our society are naive. And are likely going to get blindsided one day when the same forces they defend now turn against them.

Twitter is not the arbiter of right and wrong. Twitter is the arbiter of acceptable use for its own platform.

I am the arbiter of acceptable behavior in my apartment.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:48:07 PM
#118
joe40001 posted...
If the main mechanisms for which competition are to be accessed are not a free market than the competition cannot exist in a free market.

If toaster B is trying to compete with toaster A but if the only store anywhere refuses to sell toaster B then toaster B cannot through free market capitalism outcompete toaster A.

You do not have a right to use Twitter.

Twitter is not a public utility.

Twitter is not forced to let you post on their platform.

You agree to the rules of Twitter when you create an account on Twitter. If you do not follow the rules, you risk getting banned.

The Google Play platform is not a free market, nor is it supposed to be. If you create an app and Google agrees to host it on their platform, you risk having it removed from the platform if you violate Google's terms. Same with Apple. Same with Amazon.

You don't have a right to use Twitter.

You don't have a right to host your app on the Google Play platform.

You don't have a right to host your app on the Apple App store.

You don't have a right to host your app on Amazon AWS.

None of these are public utilities.

The store can choose to sell toaster A or toaster B. The store is not forced to sell toaster A and toaster B. If the store wants to sell both, it can. If the store wants to sell one or the other, it can. If the store doesn't want to sell toasters, it doesn't have to.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:43:57 PM
#116
joe40001 posted...
But the bigger it's monopoly gets, the more we should have the discussion as treating it as such.
Twitter is not a monopoly. It is a privately owned social media platform. It is not, nor has it ever been, a monopoly.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:40:44 PM
#113
joe40001 posted...
No, that's not my logic.

My argument in that context is that being deplatformed from twitter affects your ability to be heard.

Not that freedom of speech grants you the ability to necessarily communicate via twitter, but the more it tends to a monoplogy on a style of communication, the more it needs to be discussed under the context of a public utility.

Again

You do not have a right to use Twitter. Twitter is not a public utility.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:38:28 PM
#111
joe40001 posted...
And that's my point
The Google Play platform is not intended to be a free market, so your point is moot.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:35:39 PM
#107
joe40001 posted...
Unless you think easy access to talking 1 million people and easy access to talking to your cat are "Identical levels of being heard" I do believe it affects your ability to be heard.
You don't have a right to have access to talking to 1 million people. You have a right to free speech in a public forum. You do not have a right to a social media platform.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:35:17 PM
#106
joe40001 posted...
Again, this goes against your argument "anybody is free to compete"

Twitter competition is severely hobbled if they don't follow somebody else's rules for their conduct.

"If you don't like it just make an app to compete but also nobody will have access to your app" isn't "free market".

WTF are you talking about? You have a huge misunderstanding of how these things work.
  1. The Google Play platform is not a free market. Every app hosted on the Google Play platform must follow Google Play's rules or risk getting banned from the platform.
  2. You don't have a right to host your app on Google Play or the Apple App store or AWS or Google Cloud Platform. You have to follow the rules of the platform. If you don't, you risk losing access to said platforms and/or having your app removed from the platform.
It's really that simple. If you don't follow the rules of someone else's platform, you risk getting banned from it. It's not a free market. You don't have a right to use said platforms. Bottom line. I'm really not sure how this is such a hard concept for you.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:31:06 PM
#100
joe40001 posted...
It does matter in that it contradicts your point that the ability to hear a person is "not dictated by these companies at all."

It doesn't matter because it doesn't contradict that. You can be heard whether you use Twitter or not. You don't have a right to use Twitter to reach an audience. Twitter doesn't dictate your ability to be heard.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:30:22 PM
#99
I'm really not sure where this weird sense of entitlement comes from where someone would feel like getting banned from a social media platform for repeated rules violations is some huge violation of your constitutional rights. It's ridiculous.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:28:43 PM
#97
joe40001 posted...
What percent of twitters style communication do you think happens off twitter?

How many people will hear you if you tweet on a different platform than twitter rather than tweet on twitter itself?

It doesn't matter. You don't have a right to use Twitter. You agree to their rules when you create your account. If you can't follow the rules, you risk getting banned. Plain and simple.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:28:10 PM
#96
joe40001 posted...
The existing big silicon valley companies are actually pretty good at suppressing or absorbing competition.

Like when google play won't host a twitter competitor I think this statement isn't exactly true.

Google Play will host a Twitter competitor. They are not, however, forced to host any app on their platform, especially if it violates their terms of use.

I'm really not sure where you get this bullshit. You don't have a right to host your app on someone else's platform.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:26:24 PM
#92
joe40001 posted...
Also I'm not saying somebody has a right to be heard, but I am saying they likely have a right to be able to be heard. Any depending on the monopolies of the mediums the functional ability to hear a person is dictated somewhat by these companies.

Social media platforms aren't monopolies and you don't have a right to use them. The ability to hear a person is not dictated by these companies at all.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 8:14:03 PM
#83
Junior_AIN posted...
That's the thing, these companies have become bigger than government, if they're not moderated, they will decide what free speech should be like, above the constitution of every country in the world. That's Orwellian.

There's a clear attack on free speech and personal liberties here, the world is diving onto a dark era of stark censorship. Censorship masqueraded as good will. And of course Trump supporters aren't going anywhere, they'll still be there, just more fed up.

The companies have not become bigger than the government. They are not deciding what free speech should be like. They are deciding what the rules are on their own platforms.

It's not an attack on free speech because you don't get free speech on social media platforms. You agree to the rules of the platform when you make your account. It's your own fault if you can't follow them.

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Topic2021 is turning out to be 2020 NG+
CableZL
01/09/21 8:08:29 PM
#1
TopicApple Bans Parler!
CableZL
01/09/21 8:02:29 PM
#9
Topiclmao wtf, Parler users need to submit deir SSN and a government issued ID???
CableZL
01/09/21 7:30:35 PM
#3
TopicWhy did you quit your last job?
CableZL
01/09/21 7:20:10 PM
#14
I was working 60 - 80 hour weeks constantly and a larger and better company wanted to hire me.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 6:53:26 PM
#65
joe40001 posted...
It's the internet monopoly over 1 to many direct messages.
No it isn't

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TopicParler removed Lin Wood's post that called to execute Mike Pence
CableZL
01/09/21 6:36:31 PM
#1
https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/parler-reportedly-removed-posts-by-trump-affiliate-lin-wood-calling-for-execution-of-vp-mike-pence/?tpcc=ECFB2021

It seems that even the free speech social network Parler has its limits.

The social network that has attracted scores of conservative commentators because of its commitment to free speech has taken down several posts from Trump affiliate Lin Wood, according to a report in Mediaite.

In one of the posts removed from the social media platform, Wood called for the execution of Vice President Mike Pence.

LOL, I guess conservatives don't have free speech on Parler, either.

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TopicJPMorgan Chase accused of purging accounts of conservative activists
CableZL
01/09/21 4:15:17 PM
#11
TopicThey arrested the guy who was among those chasing that cop up the stairwell
CableZL
01/09/21 4:01:47 PM
#1
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2021/01/09/
fbi-arrests-des-moines-man-who-us-capitol-riot
-booked-into-polk-county-jail-washington-dc/6607953002/



Doug Jensen, a 41-year-old Des Moines man who was photographed among the mob that invaded the U.S. Capitol, has been arrested and is in custody in the Polk County Jail, Sgt. Ryan Evans of the Polk County Sheriff's Office confirmed Saturday morning.
He was booked into the jail at 1 a.m.
FBI Public Affairs Specialist Amy Adams said Jensen was arrested by the FBI, and he's facing five federal charges:
  • Knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority.
  • Disrupting the orderly conduct of government business.
  • Violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building.
  • Parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building.
  • Obstructing a law enforcement officer during a civil disorder.



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TopicY'all call Trump a dictator
CableZL
01/09/21 3:36:25 PM
#22
waterjoe posted...
No and they should allow what they want to allow but don't ban someone bc they accidentally dead name someone thats all or use a word they didn't know is a slur. Anyway if Trump wants he can sue FB, Twit, Insta which is his right. But still the guy is a total Ahole anyway.

Sure, he can sue, but he'll lose those lawsuits just like he did all those election lawsuits. You don't have a right to have an account on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Google, etc. If you repeatedly violate the rules, you risk getting your account banned. That's like suing RedVentures because they couldn't follow the rules on GameFAQs and got banned.

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Topic"Twitter can ban whoever they want, they're a private business"
CableZL
01/09/21 3:31:54 PM
#34
Rhylos posted...
Remember when a court ruled that Trump couldn't block people because he's a public figure and twitter's considered a public forum? That's not okay, but banning people from a public forum, even public figures, is okay.
When did they say Twitter is considered a public forum?

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TopicY'all call Trump a dictator
CableZL
01/09/21 3:30:08 PM
#19
waterjoe posted...
Who ever sya trump is a dictator haven't seen an acutal dictator. On top of that are the big three social media platforms just going to keep doing to everyone. You should be allowed to say whatever you want on the net no matter how much of an ass it makes you sound, this censoring everybody shizz needs to stop somewhere.

It isn't censoring. Everyone on social media platforms agreed to follow the rules of those platforms when they made their accounts. If you can't follow the rules, you risk getting your account banned.

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TopicI'm legit scared of what happened Wednesday.
CableZL
01/09/21 3:18:56 PM
#6
Yeah, this is pretty insane. They're probably going to try again.

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