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| Topic | it's been almost a year since i've talked to a girl |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 2:35:30 PM #13 | WingsOfGood posted...
whats the point, im going to have to wait until covid is over any way. might as well just wait and then make my moves. it doesnt matter at what point i get the number (and it's better to do it closer to the date so its less likely to fizzle out) PoundGarden posted... It's hard to keep the lies straight and linear, isn't it? oh no, caught in my own web of lies --- |
| Topic | if ryan gosling came onto your mom, would she fuck him? |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 2:12:17 PM #2 | |
| Topic | it's been almost a year since i've talked to a girl |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 2:11:29 PM #8 | Dark_SilverX posted... i thought you were Chad No I have never said or claimed that. Also it's a pandemic --- |
| Topic | it's been almost a year since i've talked to a girl |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 2:10:18 PM #6 | WingsOfGood posted... So what about going to the grocer? I'm also referring to flirting, not casual every day convo --- |
| Topic | it's been almost a year since i've talked to a girl |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 2:06:19 PM #4 | WingsOfGood posted... How? Not many, but they don't count. I'm also mostly referring to in person --- |
| Topic | it's been almost a year since i've talked to a girl |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 1:55:47 PM #1 | |
| Topic | The Sopranos feels like it wasted a lot of its characters [spoilers] |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 1:48:25 PM #2 | dameon_reaper posted... Furio falls in love with Tony's wife and disappears and they don't do anything about it. first 2 i agree with. feech made sense, they were just trying to give that nice short story --- |
| Topic | Applying to the same job title/company but in a different location? |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 1:44:53 PM #2 | i applied to the same job at the same agency 100 times over the course of 2 years...if it's different hiring managers it doesnt matter. --- |
| Topic | if ryan gosling came onto your mom, would she fuck him? |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 1:21:41 PM #1 | |
| Topic | Ugh my bedsheets once again have a hole worn in right at crotch level |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 12:48:49 PM #9 | SPE posted... Piss is a acidic. Your wet spot became a hole TC i do sleep naked... --- |
| Topic | Ugh my bedsheets once again have a hole worn in right at crotch level |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 12:16:37 PM #1 | |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 12:00:18 PM #91 | GrabASnickers posted... "The dude was probably just a loser" sounds like some more toxic masculinity shit. Literally acting like we're animals doing our mating dances to "compete" for a woman. You're more dismissive of the guy who has his girl taken than the guy who would hit on a married woman right in front of him on his honeymoon. Maybe some guys just want to enjoy their night and not deal with assholes like that? Does it occur to you that "stopping that shit" can often mean you look like an insecure guy with trust issues? I think there's a basic expectation that you can allow your girlfriend to talk to other guys and not have her cheat on you. If she would do that there are probably deeper issues in that relationship, but they don't need a PUA to play relationship cop. If PUAs are so good at picking up women then surely they could go find a single one instead. As I mentioned, you can't take an anecdocotal example and use it against the entire PUA community. People cheat. Cheating isn't illegal. Vast majority of PUAs have been cheated on (due to sample size). It's really NBD in the grand scheme of things. You can't lord your specific moral standards over 1 PUA on 1 example of something he did as an indictment of the entire community --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/12/21 3:16:48 AM #87 | MajesticFerret posted...
hey buddy, thanks for chiming in yeah, i think you make 1 important point: everyone always asks for dating advice. this board is filled with literally hundreds of topics related to girls and not knowing what to do. i literally have to ignore so many of them because the posters are beyond hope that it's not worth the time investment it would take me to help that person. so if guys are that desperate for advice...you really can't get upset when people actually develop game theory optimal responses to these exact situations. you cant ask for advice and then get mad when there are people out there who actually took the time to learn how to best solve these problems that you yourself are having --- |
| Topic | Which dating app should I get a 1 month membership to? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 11:25:12 PM #8 | |
| Topic | if i respected women any more, they'd be pregnant |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 11:15:09 PM #1 | |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 10:34:26 PM #85 | TheSavageDragon posted...
let me correct you right there: you're making a false assumption that he is doing it without sincerity. that is incorrect, doing it with sincerity is also a skill, which a good PUA possesses --- |
| Topic | What is the science behind string cheese? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 10:16:22 PM #1 | |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 10:05:12 PM #83 | WingsOfGood posted...
it's not any one thing he does, it an accumulation over a long period of time he reframes any objections to give himself value: him: what brings you to america? (she's foreign) her (dismissively): just here for the american experience him: well part of the american experience is meeting cool interesting americans he knows exactly what story to tell, when to tell it, and the correct format to maximize tension and suspense he knows exactly what she needs at any given moment, ie: "i need her to think im cool now, im gonna tell the story about the time ___" or "i need to seem more relateable right now, i'll tell her the story about my grandma", etc it was like he was seeing into the matrix --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 9:38:54 PM #80 | WingsOfGood posted...
why does he have to be a senior engineer with years of experience? what if he's had a couple years of experience and every other candidate is equally or more qualified? but then, in the interview this guy was able to come up with better examples, stories etc that illustrated his value as an engineer and what he would bring to the job WingsOfGood posted... However, if a dude already had all the skills the company was looking for and was already experienced in years of being the chief engineer, him nailing an interview is not impressive. manipulation implies it was deceitful. nothing he did was deceitful. at no point did he lie or misrepresent himself or anything similar. changing someone's mind by making your argument/point isn't "manipulation", it's properly stating the facts and how they favor you and letting the other person draw their own conclusion in your favor --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 8:56:23 PM #78 | WingsOfGood posted...
Nope, I 100% disagree. He didn't manipulate anything...he communicated effectively to build attraction that previously didn't exist. If you really want to be cynical, you can say that all of life is a manipulation: in job interviews you manipulate your potential employers into giving you a job, you manipulate your girlfriend into staying with you by buying dinner, etc. I disagree. In a job interview, you are communicating how you are the right person for the job, in a relationship you communicate a good experience by treating your girlfriend to dinner. once again, the reason it was impressive was because of the way he was able to build attraction that was not previously there via his communication. he had to do a ton to get her there. --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 8:36:10 PM #75 | WingsOfGood posted... It is not impressive if there was no manipulation. why is your underlying assumptions that it was manipulation or not...? why is your underlying assumption that she was already dtf or not? communication is more nuanced than that, especially male to female communication you're literally saying that it is not possible that she wasn't super into him but became more attracted to him the more they talked. is that correct? why is that not possible iyo? watching him be able to build attraction that wasn't there was what was impressive to me --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 8:23:25 PM #72 | WingsOfGood posted...
again, this relates back to my previous post. attraction is not binary, it isn't "she's either down or she isn't". the more she talked to him the more she became attracted to him. that isn't manipulation, it's expression of his self and personality. he was masterfully able to communicate and express what he needed to. --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 8:21:54 PM #71 | WingsOfGood posted... This is literally how it's done. Attraction isn't negotiated. She's either down or she's not. Boomhauer just wants to hook up and he's upfront and honest to women about it. He's not lying or deceitful. He found one chick who was down and it's still mid afternoon. He's still got plenty of day left to find more lol. attraction isn't an on/off switch. it isnt binary. and there are difference types of attraction. physical attraction is more instantaneous but there's still a scale from "ew" to "he's kinda cute" to "whoa hes fucking hot" but by saying "she's either down or she's not" you're saying how well you know someone and personality doesnt factor into attraction at all, which is blatantly false --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 8:13:17 PM #68 | |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 7:33:50 PM #64 | radical rhino posted... No_U is really putting in the effort with this latest trolling attempt. This ain't even my topic, I'm just trying to give everyone perspective --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 7:15:09 PM #62 | GrabASnickers posted... Yeah, I'm not going to continue trying to explain how there is a direct correlation between PUA and that kind of toxic behavior, given that you're the one who implicitly made the correlation in the first place, and now you're trying to deny it. You're either completely delusional or trying to save face after you got caught with your pants down in this topic trying to glorify sleaziness. It would be toxic if that was something rampant that happened constantly and was being taught. It was something that a PUA happened to do on his free time. And it is just morally grey. I know of PUA convicted of rape too. Doesn't mean the community as a whole is toxic. That's like saying all doctors and the medical industry are evil because one gets convicted for murder --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 7:01:54 PM #60 | GrabASnickers posted... NoU: "PUA really works, I knew a guy who snagged a woman on her honeymoon!" p accurate. any skill in the history of the world can be used for toxic purposes. doesnt mean the skill in of itself is toxic. it also depends on your views of marriage. i don't place high value on it, to me 2 adults consensually fucked. a bit shady and i wouldnt had done it but really doesnt bother me that much. --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:51:57 PM #58 | CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
lmao yeah that's the bullshit mystery method era stuff. PUA is NOTHING like that. it's 100% different now --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:50:53 PM #57 | |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:48:40 PM #55 | GrabASnickers posted... If there is some stuff in there that helps you be more confident with women that's fine but in itself but there is absolutely toxic stuff in there. You gave us the example yourself! It shouldn't be a game to go after the "hardest" woman (like a newlywed) or as many as possible. You have to do it remembering there's at least one other person on the side of every interaction, even if you get in the mindset where you can move on from a rejection and not think about it, you don't know what she might be thinking. i completely agree with that, and it isnt something that is taught. the guy is a pro, saw a girl he wanted and went for it..she just happened to be married. for what it's worth, he did ask my friend if he should go through with it so he was ambivalent himself. and that wasn't something he was teaching, it wasn't recorded. it was on his downtime for his own personal self. im not gonna tell him what to do with his personal life, but i would have issue with it if he posted it as a video on his youtube channel. as far as pick up teachings, i see very little that is toxic. that is not to say that there aren't toxic or misogynistic people out there, just like in any other field --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:35:48 PM #52 | MrToothHasYou posted...
you are free to think whatever you want, if its effective and lets me live the life i want...then im fine with it --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:34:47 PM #51 | Graycap posted...
when would you describe it as "culturally relevant"? if its 2001, then you may have been right, i wasnt in the scene back then but from 2010+, there was a big revival in the pick up artist scene and a very careful removal from the bullshit mystery method era --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:33:07 PM #49 | GrabASnickers posted... Lol at post 43 (I miss block quotes) I forgot about that already, really off putting against his later message of "well everyone was okay with it and had a good time!" Dude just keeps moving the goalposts me moving the goal posts?! you're the one that changed the goal post to mental health lmao --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:31:43 PM #47 | Graycap posted...
what is your source? sounds like an assumption or something from the bullshit mystery method era. no pick up artist thinks like that now --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:30:53 PM #45 | GrabASnickers posted...
no...i wanted tips to have a fulfilling dating life and received an entire paradigm shift that helped me gain an advanced understand of sub communication, gender dynamics and female psychology which i use to more effectively understand and communicate with women let me ask you, why do you reduce everything down to "getting laid"? you realize there's a lot more to it than that. having sex is an important part of dating, so it does factor in...but why do you assume that is the entirety of it? lots of guys excel in aspects of life besides dating and need to know how to have a fulfilling dating life. what is wrong with trying to improve that aspect of ones life? spikethedevil posted... The whole PUA thing is really fucked up and icky imo. Thankfully its all a bunch of BS that ends up like the youtube vid irl. what is "fucked up and icky" about it? that video is an extreme example where the guy flat out tells her he's a PUA...i'll tell you right now, the #1 rule of pick up artists is the same as fight club...you do not talk about it in public --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:22:47 PM #37 | GrabASnickers posted...
it sounds like what you want is...therapy. i agree, if you need that much help with your insecurities, go see a therapist, a pick up artist is not going to be able to solve your problems. what pick up artists can do is teach you how to have a fulfilling dating life. it's unfair to put the complete onus of fixing mental health on dating coach --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:18:40 PM #34 | yusiko posted... pick up artist tricks only work on women with incredibly low self esteem and as they get older pick up artists get depressed due to their inablity to create lasting relationships because they turned romance into a game and now they lost i have no clue where you are getting this from? pick up artists dont use "tricks", we use communication techniques it's extremely misogynistic to say that "only girls with low self esteem sleep with pick up artists". lots of girls sleep with pick up artists. it's pointless to categorize them. lots of strippers do, lots of lawyers do. lots of confident women do. im sure some low self esteem girls do. women are women, sometimes they are confident, sometimes they may be more down. that's completely irrelevant. what is your sources on "as they get older pick up artists get depressed due to their inablity to create lasting relationships because they turned romance into a game and now they lost"? 2 pick up artists i know got married in the last 2 years. and 2 top instructors got married in the last 3 years. there's 0 correlation or evidence behind any of your claims --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:14:06 PM #31 | GrabASnickers posted...
pick up artists teach things as they relate to girls. stop the presses --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 6:12:12 PM #29 | GrabASnickers posted... Bruh it was someone's special night maybe it's not the time for a "technical game" (not sure how much I believe the story to begin with). Human relationships aren't a game that you gain experience points at and get better the more you force them. im not saying it was something i would had done or should had been done. but 1. she was dtf. 2. he was dtf. 3. they're both adults. so who am i to judge what happened there? im just impressed by how he was able to handle the situation where did i say the "only or most important way you measure confidence is in ability to talk to women". i said it is an extremely valuable skill...which i absolutely stand by. i am confident in lots of ways, but my engineering prowess doesn't exactly apply in this conversation inner confidence is a high priority teaching from PUA instructors. an exercise they make you do is to list 10 things about you that girls would like. actually taking the time to mentally think things like that through and then say them out loud (or write them down) helps reinforce that self confidence. it really does sound like you just have an agenda against how you perceive pick up artists --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:59:40 PM #26 | GrabASnickers posted... You were cheering on a guy who came after a guy's wife on their honeymoon and then saying it's just about positively teaching guys confidence. There are much better ways to teach confidence, because confidence isn't just a tool to get laid. It's also not something that can be practiced away by talking to women en masse. Pick up artistry is a toxic grift for insecure men who place too much value on sexual conquest 1. i wasn't cheering him on, as i clearly stated. i was impressed at his mastery of technical game. it was more that it was such a difficult situation and he was able to overcome every single obstacle. 2. you're once again making a mistake. i never said pick up artists use getting laid to build confidence. it's the opposite, it's about building up your confidence so that you can get laid as a by product. a lot of pick up artist teachings is just about understanding the male-female dynamic and what women value/like 3. once again i will repeat myself: the sexual conquest itself has 0 value to a pick up artist. however, having the tools to reach that conquest is extremely valuable. being able to be confident, talk and create attraction with women on a consistent basis is a skill that is extremely valuable. so once again i have corrected you and how you have misconstrued pick up artist teachings with your preconceived assumptions of what you think it is about. please feel free to ask any more questions, but i would prefer you drop the retaliatory tone and have a civil convo. i am happy to answer any questions --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:53:28 PM #24 | Prismsblade posted... Alot of guys dont have the mental fortitude to even approach, let alone talk to woman so why PUA get so much more shit is something I dont really understand. you kinda explained it, people hate what they don't understand. they hate when others have what they want but are too afraid or unable to go for. it's the same reason people hate on CEOs. (not saying CEOs are saints). people are just mad that someone can be that successful compared to themselves and try to take moral high grounds to make themselves feel better about their lives. it's just an excuse so they feel better about not taking action being a good pick up artist is about self development, communication and understanding women. there is absolute nothing manipulative or wrong with it --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:49:48 PM #21 | GrabASnickers posted... Can't believe we have a live PUA follower in here so i address all your concerns and correct your misconceptions...and you're mad about having more accurate information? ok --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:35:52 PM #17 | GrabASnickers posted... PUAs present themselves as being good with women, I don't know if they believe it themselves. It's just about selling something to insecure men. 1. PUA techniques include shoring up your inner confidence to let go of all insecurities. PUA is truly just self development at its core, just with an emphasis on dating 2. The number of women you sleep with is irrelevant and doesn't matter. Most PUA instructors tell you to just stop counting entirely 3. Unfortunately, to develop techniques and apply these concepts, you need experience. So yeah, dating is a numbers game so that you can get this experience. It's extremely difficult to do anything well without the experience so I really don't see a way around that --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:19:18 PM #15 | WingsOfGood posted...
this one was in person --- |
| Topic | Pick-Up Artists think they're great with women, but are they? |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:16:46 PM #13 | WingsOfGood posted...
This guy is the premiere pick up artist imo. I'm always watching/listening in to see what I can learn. And of course, morbid curiosity --- |
| Topic | Brooklyn 99 ending after Season 8 |
| No_U_L7 02/11/21 5:11:18 PM #24 | CyricZ posted...
He didn't say a small percentage, he said nearly unheard of. Which means all you need is for a few extremely popular ones to mean he's completely wrong Maybe "rare" was more of what he meant to say --- |
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