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Challenge 10 needs a 100 memoria stone and a 100 hero. So if you don't have the mats for that, you have time

Idle speculation but I'll spoiler tag it anyway. Chapter 5 is coming out soon

Looks like it will be Yuna's chapter so will likely get a Yuna SR from doing it. All the other story SR's have an SSR variant so wouldn't be surprised if we get Yuna SSR on the banner too. People are also speculating that the next tales SSR could be Sophie from Graces due to her being in the DAT mines.

Oh meant to say this a bit back but forgot. Apparently next event raid boss will be fire so you may want to make sure you at least have some serviceable Water units for it.

Yeah it is. The Dark Hard raid is probably harder than Water Very Hard. Wind is kinda obnoxious as even if you are earth heavy you are still eating poison damage. Earth isn't too bad. And I haven't done Light or Fire yet.

Yeah people use the main characters because you can get their memoria from the shard shop. So you can fully awaken them if you're willing to convert the SRs you pull. I'm sure fully awakened they have superior stats to an SSR but they also get their passive ability too. Kanata is +11% attack to everyone, Misella is +11% defense to everyone and Vicious is +11% HP to everyone.

I think they are all pretty serviceable. Vicious is a decent hitgen (10 hits on 3CD and 15 hits on 5 CD), Misella is a decent healer (+40% heal on 3 CD) and Kanata is more for his passive I think

Yeah, mine says 12 hours so it must be 10am tomorrow morning it resets the the 7/25 part is wrong due to the games time being out of sync by 12 hours.

I think the Meta with the SRs is that status effects are really, really good. Also duplicates are good enough where an SR with some dupes into it will outperform an SSR even if it lacks a MA. Are the SR's you're seeing the ones that have Wildfire (so Emil and Rokurou) because Wildfire is obscenely good.

Heads up, I think Arena closes in 40 minutes.

EDIT: Just noticed in raid it says the time is 1 hour before what the actual time is so it may be 1 hour 40.

But really the point I'm making is don't go converting your Rare Memoria's like they are worthless because they may actually have a use for a while if you get enough duplicates which seems likely.

That's going to be very situational I think. I would think any with a good effect are worth keeping and anything that fits your subgrid weapon type is also worth keeping as it will be a while before you can field enough memoria that replaces them, especially when you factor in element types

And I would be concerned about feeding them for awakenings in case they make the universal item for improving SSRs Memoria more readily available. I don't think they are going to dole them out like candy but I wouldn't be surprised if they added them to event rewards or exchanges where you can snag one every now and again

Hmm so it seems max SR Reid isn't actually better than a maxed out R unit. It's about the same. Guess they tone down the easily farmable event memorias?

Which means it's probably worth using R's if you can max them out then. They should theoretically surpass SSR's at around 60-65 or so like the event Reid does

I'm sure people know this by now but Ascended SR Memoria's exceed level 50 SSR Memoria. Seems the tipping point is around the level 60 or so mark so by 90 they are a lot better.

For reference:

Max R Spada - HP 6500 / ATK 700 / DEF 450
80 SR Reid Memoria - HP 5138 / ATK 558 / DEF 505
68 SR Reid Memoria - HP 4344 / ATK 472 / DEF 428
50 SSR Velvet Memoria - HP 2310 / ATK 305 / DEF 510 (Technically mine is 3810 / 445 / 620 but that's due to adorns)

EDIT: Guess I can toss a R into there for comparison too

Eddv posted...

The Butcher and Blade were going for pins when they were in control too so yeah this us the bucks

Well the one that sticks out for me is when one of the Bucks is out of commission. The Butcher and Blade hit a powerbomb / neckbreaker on the other one outside the ring. They then make no attempt to cover when that should finish the match. Bucks then immediately recover and win.

Ugh, just lost my arena streak by the closest of margins and then I realized I had never reset my memoria stones after upgrades which absolutely would have made the difference.

Yeah, I assume it's more on the Young Bucks rather than AEW. I haven't seen much of them before but I had heard they were 'spot monkeys'. Not sure how accurate that is but I can see pin attempts being something they overlook if that's the case.

There's just simple stuff that makes it seem better too. Like when Darby Allin got beat down and they go to pick him up, he was limp like a ragdoll. That's so simple and yet WWE never does that. Or simple ring psychology like Moxley utilizing the armbar last week or Cody with the figure four this week. That's so much better than WWE's finishes which seem to basically be moves of doom or roll-ups.

I have no idea where people are positioned on the card but matches actually being even and not being squashes helps too. You don't need 50/50 booking to get people over. Just being competitive in losses can help but again WWE doesn't do that. It's either 50/50 booking or squashes or if upsets happen it's via rollups.

Been watching AEW the last two weeks and this just seems like a lot better product than when I last watched WWE. Maybe because it's fresher to me so that gives it a little bit of a bump rather than WWE seeming stale to me. The matches just seem a lot better though, not just in quality but in the variety of stuff that gets done.

I mean there are faults with it too. Like I'm just past the Bucks/Butcher + Blade match which whiilst enjoyable, why the fuck does nobody bother actually trying to get a pin until the end? I think there was one attempt at the start of the match and then the next attempt was the end despite plenty of offense looking like it warranted a pin attempt. Also that end spot just seemed bad to me.

Also holy fuck that Cody neck tattoo is atrocious. I'd seen it before I think but I forgot just how bad it was.

Mine says 2020-07-25 at 21:59:59 which by my time is just over 7 hours 30 mins. Above the Season 2 banner it says 20 hours left.

I know at this time last week the season had ended because I couldn't do arena in the afternoon last Saturday around like 3pm.

Hmm seems arena is still open so it isn't the same time as last week. It says 20 hours left but then that would be on 7/26 rather than 7/25 like it says so not sure it's that either.

Yeah, think I'm just going to settle for 1500-2000. Would have to probably spend 80 to get above 1500 and it would only net me an extra 50 gleamstones. Plus may not be enough time to get 10 matches in before season close.

So about 10 wins

Lopen posted...

Aw man, that sucks. So many characters I like are R. There is a decent team to be made of SSRs but eh. We'll see. Do a few rerolls.

Well the other half of this is that people who are R only now, especially major characters, are very likely to get an SSR in the future. So you can always stockpile gleamstones.

I did 4 more multis hoping for Summer Kanonno because a DPS with heal sounds usable. Got 3 SSRs from those 4 pulls but didn't get her. I can't complain though as it did give me Estelle (plus Rita and Milla). The game really doesn't want to give me dupes though. I now have 12 SSRs and the only dupe I've gotten was from a guaranteed SSR ticket, so no dupes from gleamstones.

I think it closes in 53 minutes. I'm at 1829 so I think 5 more matches may get me to 1500 but will likely leave me just short.

How much Prestige do you have? So I can gauge how many matches away from you I am. I'm at 10820 now

Going to do 1 refresh and see how high it puts me then decide from there. Maybe I'll hit a brick wall of 90-100 teams at some point which will stop me progressing.

Kinda hate where I am in the Arena rankings right now.

It feels like 1 refresh will push me into the 1500-2000 bracket. 2 refreshes will put me into the 1000-1500 potentially. Then who knows if a 3rd refreshes gets me to the next bracket but if it does then it becomes miserable as it feels like you have to keep refreshing at that point since brackets change every 100 ranks and you get an extra 100 gleamstones. So theoretically you should keep going until it costs more than 2.5 refreshes.

There isn't such a thing as a R character. Pulling a R gives you a Memoria stone.

SR characters are probably usable if you got dupes of them and will have certain niche uses since the SRs tend to have status effects on them whereas most of the SSRs are raw damage. I'd imagine over time they will get phased out though.

Isn't it a visual error where it displays full AP cost but when you actually finish the quest it only consumes half? Least that's what reddit says

Emeraldegg posted...

Caulifla doing it

Oh right, that's her name. Kefla is the fusion.

I think the more ridiculous part of Caulifla doing it is not just the staggering ease and stupid oversimplification. It's that Goku then talks her through other stages during the tournament in such a quick timeframe. Meanwhile there's never even an attempt to get Gohan to blue where who knows if he can mix it with the Mystic form.

Which is worse?

Goten and Trunks achieving SSJ with minimal effort or Kefla and company doing it via back tingles?

Curious, what is everyones SSR roster looking like now and how many gleamstones do you still have?

So far my progress was 6 SSRs from rerolling, 1 SSR from the guarantee challenge ticket, 1 SSR from random tickets and 2 SSR from multi pulls (5 pulls). I have 15.7k gleamstones left.

Leon (+1)
Summer Veigue
Lloyd
Velvet
Sorey
Aegis
Kanonno
Luke
Reid

Spamming VH3 Gald gets through stamina quick but until they had a quick complete then running stamina dry sucks unless you just do like the 16 stamina event dungeon

Yeah right now it's very time consuming. I think part of that is because I don't want to lose/waste any stamina. I'm hoping down the line it will become less so which should be th case when we get larger stamina pools and events that take up more stamina.

I think raids being so tedious is a problem too.

I lost my last arena win streak because it crashed mid fight. Luckily it seems the bonuses from 5 wins up are the same so it isn't too bad

Seeing people complain about Estelle in Arena is funny because she's not even the most broken thing in Arena. Like whoever designed Wildfire, how could they possibly have thought that was anywhere close to balanced. I'm guessing it isn't getting a lot of complaints yet because most people don't know what it does.

Throwing it out there that everyone in the raid can request help even if you didn't start the raid. So if you join a friend / guildies raid, then put out the request too.

I just had a raid where the organizer let it tick all the way down to 20 mins. I kept hopping in every 6 mins to request aid again and eventually it got cleared.

Starts tomorrow I think. Saw someone say it was a mistranslation

The wiki seems to suggest the model I said is accurate. So not sure where the discrepency of 2 battles for me comes from unless there was something that reset level status at some point when I was 2 battles in?

Fairly certain it scales up according to the level of the pass 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > etc

Let's see. My record says I've had 73 Battles and I'm Level 11 with 7 to go to 12

0 > 1 - 1 Battle
1 > 2 - 3 Battles
2 > 3 - 6 Battles
3 > 4 - 10 Battles
4 > 5 - 15 Battles
5 > 6 - 21 Battles
6 > 7 - 28 Battles
7 > 8 - 36 Battles
8 > 9 - 45 Battles
9 > 10 - 55 Battles
10 > 11 - 66 Battles
11 > 12 - 78 Battles

So it checks out although it's slightly off. I should have 5 to go to 12 not 7. So maybe it isn't that? Going up in 10s wouldn't match either though.

Anyway, if that's the model then it's 210 Battles to Level 20. 8 days worth of tags is 96 tags if kept on perfect cycle of usage. So I'd be well short of the 210. Notably the reward for Level 19 is 800 Gleamstones so if you're close it's definitely worth using refreshes to get there.

Looking at the way the battlepass scales up, you may have to use gleamstones in order to claim it all before it expires. 8 days left and I'm at level 12. If it keeps scaling up (and why wouldn't it), then I don't believe free tickets will get me to the end

Well that answers a question I was going to ask. Was about to ask if anyone had gotten a Memoria when not hosting. Everytime I've had one drop, it was when I was hosting.

Oh balls. I need another 10 for Velvet too. Welp, get Leon to 90 first then worry about Velvet I guess.

Least the event is nice and lets you buy some of the mats for Earth/Fire/Light with points. Dark/Water/Wind are shafted though.

ShatteredElysium posted...

Having to spend AP on normal raids due to lacking low level materials is sucky.

Some ascensions mats are just miserable to get. Started off at 6/10. 1 hour later I'm at 8/10. Tried both normal and hard raids since they are a silver box item but only seen them drop on normal so far (artificial crystal)

If you're really desperate for a healer Ermine, you do have 1 option available to you that isn't quite as good as Estelle but should still be pretty good.

Use the freebie SR Misella. Find 4 crappy SR's you don't want and convert them. Buy 4 Misella's SR's from the shard shop. You should now have 5 Misella Memoria's. Feed them into the Misella to get her fully awakened. +11% DEF to all allies passive, a 40% heal on 3 turn CD (if upgraded) and theoretically being fully ascended probably brings her up to or above SSR level stats.

Having to spend AP on normal raids due to lacking low level materials is sucky.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I still think I'm confused. Right now, my placement is 1933, and my prestige is at 8474. Is there another number your talking about?

No. The 1933 placement is what I'm talking about.

So like this morning I was at 3300. I won all 5 matches and got up to 2600. By the time my tags are up for use again, I will be back at 3300. So even though I'm winning every match and keeping my tags used on cooldown, I'm not making any progress in placement. And placement is what dictates how many gleamstones you get at season reset.

Seems like it is better to jump into Hard raids that have 1 person in so you can guarantee yourself the MVP rather than gamble on Very Hard raids and whether or not you can get MVP. I guess people with better teams than me may be able to just do VH and not care about that. I also just auto them all which I doubt helps my contribution.

I mean the physical number ranking. So like I'm in C2 now with 7724 Prestige and I'm in 2629th place. So I'm talking about the 2629 bit which is what the number of Gleamstones you get at season end is tied to.

I don't believe so. There's AP and BP but nothing for arena. At least when you click the replenish button, it only gives the option to use stones

Seems like it is tough slogging to make progress in Arena. I'm using my tickets as soon as I hit 5/5 and I've only lost 1 match all season but I'm staying at the same ranking range. I use my 5 tags and get up to like 2600-2700 and then by the time they are recharged I'm back down to like 3200-3300.

It seems implausible that everyone above me is also keeping their tags used on cooldown whilst winning every match too. So a ton more people must be using stones to refresh than I expected.

I kinda wonder if these summon tickets you get have rates up. They aren't listed as rates up but so far from the 3 I've gotten I've pulled 2 SR and 1 SSR. Was nice as it have me Luke and I had no fire SSRs. Now I'm just missing Light but that seems less important with how Light and Dark work

I'm running 2 Earth heroes who do most of the heavy lifting